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Upon say the poster still put funny titles, some no still know say na joke. This further shows that hatred blinds.May God liberate people o

kenex4ever:
This is a lie
Someone just did dat poster for fun n to shame Christians.

That statement was initially on fb
Where some people were saying pastors will start using it as a prayer point.

Someone just made up dat just like dey do to some of d funny church posters you see on nairaland

Wow...someone preached to these ones
From India


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm9cCjc9Nz8

Pls Enjoy, NO LONGER SLAVES by this lovely couple


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8TkUMJtK5k

Tnx...There is one MESSAGE and ONLY one WAY to heaven,And JESUS is.

Let's project Jesus and Not ourselves or our bible knowledge.All these argument which should have been discussion could have been used to preach Jesus and Him crucified. Let's be wise.God bless you sir

BabaAduras:
If you are quoting biblical portions on tithes, what about Duet 14 from vs 22 to the end. That is where laid the foundations for tithes. There He gave the purpose for tithes and what we should do with our tithes. The Malaki 3:10 is talking about the portion that should be in the storehouse for strangers and visitors that the Levis were stealing then. You should not quote Malaki 3:10 in isolation. You need to look at the portion from Malaki 2 from beginning to that 3:10 verse. It was referring to the Levites.

Going back to Duet 14 from verse 22. God said a portion of the tithes is for Strangers and Levites, I believe it is this portion the is kept in the storehouse that is now been stolen by Levites and that is what Malaki 3:10 was admonishing the Levites to return to the storehouse. There is no contradictions in the directives of God. We are the ones quoting out of context to suite our purposes.

The lowdown is I follow the bible they way God gives me understanding to not the way any Pastor or the multitude wants me to because I will not be answerable to the Pastor or the multitude on the day of judgement, I will only be answerable to God, my Creator. Same goes for everyone of us.

I read the Word and I'm convinced. I don't need to Change Church because there is ONLY one Church for All that have been Washed by the Blood of Jesus. I hope you are Born again because arguing on tithe isn't profitable for you and I.Souls are perishing and we are wasting time here.

Use this energy to win souls for Christ.Let's stop entertaining the devil.Like I have said consistently, THERE ARE WEIGHTIER ISSUES.
We have overflogged this nonsense. Now Go and Tell The World about Jesus

Ratuk:
Piiiiii. Wrong. You need to change your Church. The tithe belongs to the ". . .orphans, the widows, (all of whom you can consider as THE NEEDY), the levites (your pastor is supposed to fall in here except his belly is so big it can contain you and all you have). . ."

Read your Bible. Don't wait for them to show you Heaven because the can't

OPEN HEAVENS DAILY DEVOTIONAL
DATE: SATURDAY NOVEMBER 25TH 2017
THEME: DESCENT IS OFTEN UNNOTICED
Memorise:
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed
speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully
set in them to do evil. Ecclesiastes 8:11
Read: Luke 22:1-6
22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh,
which is called the Passover.
22:2 And the chief priests and scribes sought how they
might kill him; for they feared the people.
22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot,
being of the number of the twelve.
22:4 And he went his way, and communed with the
chief priests and captains, how he might betray him
unto them.
22:5 And they were glad, and covenanted to give him
money.
22:6 And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray
him unto them in the absence of the multitude.
Message:
To successfully run the Christian race, certain
assignments cannot be delegated or carried out without
your involvement. In Joshua chapter 7, Joshua
delegated the assignment of fighting Ai to some of his
men, and at the end of the day, they suffered defeat.
Nothing kills like overconfidence! Have you ever
wondered if Judas Iscariot was originally a thief? In
Luke 6:12-13, the Lord prayed all night before selecting
12 apostles. It is therefore most likely that he did not
start out as a thief. However, even if he was originally a
thief, nobody gets to the zenith of an evil deed
suddenly. It is usually a gradual process. Backsliding is
a process and not a sudden event. If you see a brother
backslidden to the point of shamelessly going about
with wolves, on closer examination, you will discover
that he must have been secretly frolicking with sin for a
while. He must have tried a sinful act the first time and
“gotten away with it”. This would have encouraged him
to try a second, third and fourth time. Since he was not
caught, he would gradually continue to practice such
acts of sin more frequently, until his final descent
becomes glaring for all to see.
“Because sentence against an evil work is not executed
speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully
set in them to do evil.” Ecclesiastes 8:11
The devil does not usually come with a frontal attack
against a child of God. He uses subtle, little issues that
one will consider as nothing. Those things the devil says
do not matter really matter a lot. When you do not see
anything wrong in intimately hugging the opposite sex
or touching their bodies at will, know that you have
started backsliding. If you take a little money from the
church purse in your care unnoticed, you have also
started backsliding. If you do not cry to the Lord and
ask for His help there and then, and you allow your
descent to linger, before long, you will be openly
fornicating or even selling Jesus for peanuts without
feeling remorse. Examine yourself; how is it with your
faith today? Have you backslidden in any way? If you
have, run to the cross of Calvary for God to restore you
before you get to a point of no return! God still loves
you. Respond to His love now!
Key Point:
The reason why you don’t often get caught immediately
you engage in an evil act is not because you are smart,
but because God wants you to speedily retrace your
steps and repent.
BIBLE IN ONE YEAR:
Psalm 50-55
Micah 2
AUTHOR: PASTOR E. A. ADEBOYE
HYMN 9: ON THE HILL FAR AWAY
1. On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
The emblem of suff’ring and shame;
And I love that old cross where the Dearest and Best
For a world of lost sinners was slain.
Refrain:
So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
Till my trophies at last I lay down;
I will cling to the old rugged cross,
And exchange it someday for a crown.
2. Oh, that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
Has a wondrous attraction for me;
For the dear Lamb of God left His glory above
To bear it to dark Calvary.
Refrain:
3. In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
A wondrous beauty I see,
For ’twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,
To pardon and sanctify me.
Refrain:
4. To the old rugged cross I will ever be true;
Its shame and reproach gladly bear;
Then He’ll call me someday to my home far away,
Where His glory forever I’ll share.
Refrain:

Let's Stop wasting time...Preach Christ as the ONLY Saviour of the World. Tnx

Ratuk:
Then you need to open your mind like Christ was trying to open that of his disciples. You are told to pay tithes, where you taught that there are things that come before and must not be ignored to pay tithe? (Matthew 15). These things are hidden so you keep bringing. People have hungry relations and they carry huge sums to churches, how is that acceptable to Him? What is the Creator of all things going to do with your tithe? ". . . It is Kindness that I want, not your animal sacrifices. . ." (Matthew 9:13)

Go and start reading the Word o? Don't wait for your pastor, he can't guarantee your salvation if that's what you're after because he can't even guarantee his own

Tnx...Can the matter rest now...God Bless you sir

Abudu2000:
THE REASON WE COLLECT TITHES AND OFFERINGS IS TO GET YOU OUT OF PROVERTY


Adeb--OLE!!!!

Hmmn..tnx

Just to clear your confusion,There is nothing to envy in a Christless Life.Need i tell you that there are MANY richer folks in the church.You may remain a mentee to the likes of Freeze.I 'll rather be a sheep for the Truth than reason the way you do.

Abudu2000:
why won't he cut corners? I seriously laugh at you sheeple, if that's ur believe that whoever doesn't go to ur church is already a devil just like your Yahoomen has made you believe then who am I to alter your already configured brain...peace sheeple!!!

Please let's leave this matter,i have commented severally on it even today.If you don't believe.Let it Go.I'm done with this discus,There are WEIGHTIER MATTERS THAN TITHING Tnx

Lightening:
Addressed to the Levite's. Are you a levite?

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things

Atleast,one thing is CLEAR Now.NO MATTER HOW YOU CALL TITHERS SHEEPLES,We have determined to give more because we are convinced.We want to be foo.ls for Christ's sake.We will spend and be spent.We will work harder and give to the LORD JESUS Not Pastors.We won't only Tithe,We will Give All.Not Just Money,Our Strength and Intellect.Yes ALL.If we aren't slaves to sickness,Prostitutes,cultism and youthful lusts;we will see HIM lifted High.We owe all to Him,We owe all To JESUS!!

I want to thank God for all those who know the truth and aren't deterred by the distractions .I'm proud of those who stood for the Bible ,God's eternal TRUTH.I plead that we channel our energies to more productive ventures.The message of the Cross is more important.The World must Know That Only JESUS Saves.
I Hope the same energy used by those who felt shortchanged by some pastors will be devolved to preach ACTS 4:12.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Malachi 3:10

Lightening:
Still no single bible reference. Smh

That there MIGHT BE MEAT...Meat /food/Provision for the needy.THE TITHE ISN'T NECESSARILY FOOD BUT ONE TENTH OF WHAT YOU MAKE WHICH CAN BE MONITIZED to provide meat in the house of God

PaChukwudi44:
you said meat? what has that got to do with money

No...i am a Bible believer lead by the Spirit of God sir

PaChukwudi44:
are you an isreali jew? Do you still observe all the jewish laws?

Is that what you could deduce from the bible passages?What has duration got to do with tenth of your income?If you are a farmer whose crop is perennial,say 3 years,will you not pay it the 3rd year?If na one year before your produce come,when will be the best time to ascertain the tenth part?Ditto for monthly earners.The idea is one-tenth of your INCOME.

PaChukwudi44:
Circumcision and burnt offerings also came before the law.Besides biblical tithes had nothing to do with money and was never paid monthly

No time for Grammar,Let's read together Genesis 14:17-24
So Everything Abram got from the war was Food Abi?
And na the food wey hin get from war wan make am rich?

17 After Abram returned from defeating Kedorlaomer and the kings allied with him, the king of Sodom came out to meet him in the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley).

18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High, 19 and he blessed Abram, saying,

“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Creator of heaven and earth.
20 And praise be to God Most High,
who delivered your enemies into your hand.”
Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.

21 The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give me the people and keep the goods for yourself.”

22 But Abram said to the king of Sodom, “With raised hand I have sworn an oath to the Lord, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,
23 that I will accept nothing belonging to you, not even a thread or the strap of a sandal, so that you will never be able to say, ‘I made Abram rich.’ 24 I will accept nothing but what my men have eaten and the share that belongs to the men who went with me—to Aner, Eshkol and Mamre. Let them have their share.”

THIS WAS BEFORE THE MOSAIC LAW CAME Which Paul Spoke About in Hebrews that Levi gave tithes while the Loins of Abraham.

Kikikiki...Anyways this is the Malachi 3,you asked me to read.So the Priests were referred to as This Whole Nation abi?Continue Bible Scholar

Malachi 3:6-10
6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

PrecisionFx:
Oga tithe is not money.
Can u show me where the Bible states that u should pay 10% of ur money. Tithe is food, there's no confusion about that in the Bible.

Malachi 3 vs 10 is a warning to the priests who didn't pay their tithe in full



Go and read ur Bible.

Thanks for your OPINION. But We walk on God's terms and leading.Our good deeds are best described as self-righteousness.Giving to others could be alms or anything but not tithe or offering.Tithe simply means tenth part of your income to God not pastors or the needy.Tithers,as u'll like to call them ,also give alms and give to the needy.

Bring ye ALL THE TITHES into the storehouse,
that there may be meat IN MY HOUSE...

BabaAduras:
God bless you for your comment.

I believe in tithing but I do not give my tithes to the church. I see my tithe as my token contribution to mankind, so I give my tithes to orphanages and needy people around me.

Sincerely yours, any Pastor that is proclaiming curses because of tithes is nothing but a desperate Pastorprenuer. If they are truly sent by God, they should know better that it is not in their power to bless or to curse. That Power only resides with God almighty to whom we all are going to return to to give account of stewardship on earth.

So I know I do not have to please any Pastor, the only Beign I need to fear and please is God. If I find favour with God, who is a pastor ( a mere mortal like me) to curse me? We should all know that Pastors pronouncements (especially those that are biblical) are very inconsequential.

I can tell you I am enjoying the favour of God. I am enjoying not because of anything I do or I am doing, I am only enjoying it ONLY because it pleases God. HE says, "I will have mercy on who I will mercy on". That is His SOVEREIGNTY over us.

kirajustice:
https://politicsngr.com/2017/11/24/dont-pay-tithe-permanently-beggar-oyedepo/

I was expecting a video. However,I don't give tithe because some sweettalked me or threatened me,I DO SO BECAUSE IT'S BIBLICAL!!

It's clear you didn't read it.If that's the path you've chosen, May God help you

BluntBoy:
Exposing false teachings is a profitable activity.

If you read the verses 10-12, you would see that the verses were describing false teachers and prophets like Adeboye who pervert the gospel for pecuniary gains.

Get the point and stop prevaricating...the point is ,without sounding rude,money isn't our aim Your uncle's success is subjective and there are people without his education that are far richer than he is.To help you further, if he doesn't give a hoot about Godliness, why won't he cut corners?

Abudu2000:
lol, rituals ke,bro get education and a high paying job u will make money.someone who is a higher employee in NPA...all these G-hoes are playing on your fears and weakness , using it to exploit you read ur Bible well, is Malachi the only verse there Use ur Sense, the same schools ur ghoes built you dare not put it on ur jamb form.... I'm done with a dumb sheeple like you

gbengadada2004:
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Can you cite an example of a church in developed country where you went to and people walked out because the pastor asked for offering/tithe? I have live in some of these countries I have not seen one.

no mind them o...

masqot:
Can't this guy just freeze his mouth? Nah him money I dey pay for offering? Yeye publicity stunt

freeze isn't the issue it's the carriers of his delusion.

Hmmmn...so he is the most educated abi?We don't serve God because we want to be rich bro.After all, money ritual things dey and other fraudulent means.Moreover, God can bless a sinner,He allows the sun to shine on both the good and evil.The Psalmist had such dilemma until he discovered their end(I suppose u read ur bible sha).
The Greatest Miracle a person can receive is The Remission of Sins through The blood of Jesus.
Money is not our aim bro.As per the issue of giving, God LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER.Every giver has a reward. People are not as docile as u think.Na for church you go see stubborn people.

Abudu2000:
These sheeples knows deep down that what these their G-hoes are doing is wrong in all ramifications but I don't know maybe the brain washing has eaten so deep into them or maybe they have no redemption to have sense any more ,.I don't just know..

My uncle who happens to be their richest in our family don't know God, all his children are even more millionaires than he is even while he is alive...he has the youngest son in all our town to go to Germany and make it big?? Now this is someone who don't even know the way to the church, how come his life is moving smoothly #Education....

Education is the key, stop paying to get miracles, education is the key my people oooooo, receive sense in Jesus name biko

Don't support that.

But why your sister no dey do those things?if she no fit pay youth dues which they must have imposed on themselves, Housefellowship attendance nko?As per the tithe thing I doubt.

My problem with some people is that they do things so as to get things.If dem tell your sister to get reference letter for a big job and the minimum period the pastor must have known her is 4months,WILL she not be active for even 6months?Except she wants the pastor to lie.

Besides, I'm aware some churches don't honor publicly the child christening of children born out of wedlock.Many of those ladies become offended ....

jerrisonjeff:
I remember a sister who attends redeem as a member... She recently put to birth....she invited the pastor to name the child at the naming ceremony only to b told that the minister and pastor won't be there simply because she doesn't do their youth Sunday payment, pay tithe, doesn't belong to a group in the church and she does not go to home cell fellowship.....

Mennnn!!! Since then i said if it's buhari that hasn't attended their Church for once they will all troop to his mansion to visit.........



I wonder wat CAN is doing wit politics....God save us from false prophets

BluntBoy:
God bless you, Freeze. The Bible talked about people like Adeboye:

In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed. (2 Peter 2:3)

Nice one

But did you bother to look at verses 10 to 12.
?
You think this is how to speak for God?There are profitable things to speak about bro.
If you think they are wrong,why not pray that the eyes of their understanding be opened?Wisdom is profitable to direct bro.
There are a million Churchgoers around the world who are more eloquent and knowledgeable than freeze but choose not to show themselves.
Bible believers don't do things because Their pastors say so.No bible believer sees things through carnal reasoning.
U may disagree with people on biblical issue but NEVER SPEAK UNADVISEDLY WITH YOUR LIPS.Try to check Psalm 106:32-33

The modalities of giving is secondary bro.Do you believe it's biblical? Was Christ against it?Did the Apostles in any of the Epistles speak against it?Serving God is by revelation. If you ain't convinced, please KEEP YOUR MONEY. Tithing is one of the many ways of giving to God.Or you think God was confused when He spoke in Malachi 3?
For your info,ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN by inspiration of God...read the rest in 2 Timothy 3:16-17.Bible is not some literary work that you just understand by using reasoning...Even if you want to use reasoning,what's wrong if a person gives God one-tenth of his income?Does it negate Phil.4:8 in anyway?Do you in anyway believe that God can owe a man?We become Christians at the point of GIVING OUR LIVES TO GOD not when we joined denomination.If you have given your Life to God what is money?The problem is a carnal man CAN NEVER grasp Spiritual things,as you know ROMANS 8:6-8 kindly read.

Finally,Tithe isnt given to Pastors and there's a purpose for it.Believers aim to give their ALL to God and physically express Love ; we don't live for ourselves anymore. This, the early disciples understood and u saw what happened in Acts 2:44-45.

Instead of dissipating our energies kicking against doctrines;Let's like Jesus talk about WEIGHTIER MATTERS which is the Cross of Jesus and Holiness without which no man can see God.Those who started this discus have a sinister motive.

buragidi:
You are contradicting yourself. If we are all Priests, then who pays tithe to who and where is it written in the Bible that pastors are levites? Which verse in the Bible implies that? Go to Istreal, you see Levites there. Even they no longer receive tithes because the temple has been destroyed. If you claim pastors are spiritual levites, how come they receive phiscal tithes and not spiritual one. Jesus Christ was not a spiritual istrealites, he was a phisical one, but he could not receive tithe because he was not a levite. He was from the tribe of Judah. Priests never spend tithe in the Bible.

My brother, the topic sentence is:Tithe is biblical.
Thank God you ain't kicking against it but correct the wrong impression that MOST churches don't allow members to get married or do other things without tithe.Also understand that if tithe is a commandment from God it no longer becomes voluntary. First thing first bro.Are you convinced it's Biblical ?If yes,then obey God not minding the noise. We are not Christians because we attend churches but like Christ we Obey God's word.Tnx

Gggg102:
1 I'm not kicking against tithe
I'm kicking against compulsion of tithing or haven't you heard that most churches don't allow members to get married and do other things without tithe
or how curses are attached to non payment
if you want to tithe do it but it is not compulsory



in the new testament nobody paid tithe also
you

what God wants actually is a pure heart
who do you think is closer to God.


the man that pays tithe but does not live a Christian life or a the man that lives a Christian life but does not pay tithe
our manmade money is useless to God

it is okay to give in appreciation to God that is Thanksgiving. u can use ur tithe to thank God if you want but that does not make it compulsory

again the Christians in acts were not paying tithes... they were moved to give out of free will not compelled to do so like how it is practiced today

again I'm not against tithing(I prefer to call it giving 10% now)
people even give 10% in my church but they are not forced
the only thing that is announced is that if u want to pay come forward and they pray for you.
no preaching about tithe and how u will be cursed if u don't pay
no keeping of record of who pays so u will deny those who don't pay their rights
just free will.

Hmmn...cloth no fit cover character...

Experts built Titanic too.Experts are humans and every new invention will create a new challenge/problem

AuthoritySpeaks:
All those factors must for sure, be considered before they even start it up..
It's built by experts.

Annie939:
some pastors and married men can't just let single girls bee anyways, he's not the first and will never be the last

Truer is these single girls and unfortunately some married women won't let these pastors/married men be.The way some of dem go dey follow pastors like flies wey see shit you go dey wonder.
If our ladies become godly,many men will become godly too.