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Friend, from the post PST Poju believed Busola already... Simple.
Reason he didn't need to watch all the interview.Secondly, why apologize to rape victims in the same post?
I expected him to be quick to listen and slow to speak/judge.

stanliwise:
You are missing the point here, the fact that pastor Fatoyinbo is innocent doesn't change the reality that rape allegation like this doesn't exist. You speaking out from one angle doesn't mean you support Busola or fatoyinbo. So because I follow the tag #sayNoToRape means I am against fatoyinbo? ofcourse not!, although it is possible I can, also support #iStandAgainstFalseAccusation does not mean I am saying Busola has falsely accused fatoyinbo or that the rape didn't happen.
Truth is no one should call out anyone name when conclusion has not been reached but if anyone does not stand with #sayNoToRape, IMO the person is saying "I don't care if people are raped", same goes for the other too. Goodday.

Relax bro...she never said he wasn't fornicating.sHe only said he wasn't a rapist...prolly he could easily sweet talk any lady especially a 17 year old lady who was too weak to scream/resist sex in her own house..
Imagine
"Busola, shhhhh..just keep quiet , do what I say and you'll be fine" .. And you stayed there,he was loosening his belt,closing your mouth and removing your pant.. And you just laid there...And the blood was on the floor Not the sofa where they had sex..

nairalee:
Unbeliever that cannot fornicate abeg what's the importance/advantage/value of his unbelieverhood?

Abeg madam don't vouch for what u have no control over.

Someone once told me an overtly erect penis has no conscience

I tried not comment since morning when i started seeing headlines but I have to say this one.
What is the issue with CAN telling you what their role is?
I may not like the accused but I don't overstep my boundary. There are more pressing issues in Nigeria affecting Christians and the spiritually discerning know this.
Now to commonsense, I don't support rape but I hate hypocrisy. All these people bashing the man, do they actually love righteousness and how clean are they? The same people who do all sorts but would be the first to talk about righteousness.
Always remember he that is first in a matter seemeth right until you hear the other side.
Be quick to listen and slow to speak/Judge.
Please leave CAN out of this...let the social media traffic continue.
Even though I have never listened to BF's message and I do not subscribe to his lifestyle I can't condemn him without proof,that is,if I'm to judge.
I'm interested in the whole truth first not insinuations.

plaetton:
And Jesus wept.

And organizational, a christian organization, the supposed umbrella organization for the Christian church in Nigeria, says they cannot comment on serious allegations of rape against a church pastor.
This is very outstanding and shocking .

Does anyone else have doubts that religion is a big fraud?

It's about power, control, exploitation and subjugation. The welfare of the masses is secondary .

solmusdesigns:
Manners maket a Man...

Using the action of few to call billions of muslim stupid and insane shows how poorly you were trained... and i wonder what morals you hold as a man

Jesus would be ashamed of most of you peoples utterances and intolerance as what some of you practice as black people isnt christianity
Read Roman 14;1-4
Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand

Try to understand a bible verse and it's context before quoting.

bukatyne:
Part of the Lord's prayer...

Forgive our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.

He would not find mercy, it is quite simple.

Remember the story of Joseph and Mary in the Bible? Mary was pregnant with Jesus when he had not touched her and they were engaged to be married.

Joseph thought and slept over the best way to end the engagement without bringing shame to Mary and the Bible counted it as righteousness.

Should he have ended the marriage rites at the point he knew? Depends on his principles and situation.

First, The story of Mary and Joseph isn't similar to this story.
I don't believe the story of the OP ...but if it happened, the guy took the decision too late.
No wise man should condone a wife-to-be still cheating. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Antichristus:
Use your brain stop believing In unverifiable and unfalsifiable claims. Even animals aren’t that gullible. What different us from them is that we have the thinking faculty to think rationally.

What's the relevance of this post?
To make me change my conviction or what?I'll rather take advice from a confirmed madman than from confused folks whose opinions hold no water.
I AM CONVINCED THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY,THE ONLY TRUTH AND HE IS THE LIFE...
NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT!!

I doubt skirt is the male outfit in Scotland bro.But even if skirt is the male outfit, if a woman wears it IN Scotland then she's wearing a man's wear in Scotland.
In as much as every culture have their dressing,
there is a Christian culture which is about moderation and righteousness. Our righteousness should exceed that of the Pharisees.. For example, a Christian lady can't afford to dress in a way that even an unbeliever would question the difference between her and his girlfriend.
Concerning bumshorts and leggings, the designers have a purpose for that fashion just like Mary Quant who designed miniskirt.
My point,
The world has its fashion and its goal.As Christians,we don't conform to the world's drive towards seduction.
My brother, even in professions like the military and engineering where ladies may need to wear trousers, their outfits aren't like leggings.

Let's be careful not to use our liberty just for our fleshly lusts. Galatians 5:13

HigherEd:
Well, it isn't religion that should determine what a man, woman wears or not. In Scotland men wear skirts, In certain parts of Nigeria men also wear wrappers. Let everyone wear whatever their cultures allow... Messages of the church on dressing should end at decency.

I know this sermon reference regards women wearing trousers and I completely disagree that trousers are men wears. There are certain trousers men can't even wear... Can a man wear leggings or bumshort?

Probably the bible was even referring to cross dressers like bobrisky and denrele who intentionally identify with the opposite sex, not the average woman you see wearing jean trousers.

Believers of today should focus on preaching Jesus and unveiling his grace not showing people how unworthy they are. If you like fulfill the law in entirety if you don't have Jesus hell is your case.

Lastly, nobody is an abomination unto God, we've been saved by grace and by the precious blood of Jesus. It is His blood that qualifies us not our futile deeds. Thank you.

Chuks9000:
Dear Nigerians,
Your christianity is based on fear and lack of understanding.
You say Abraham gave 10% abi? this is one reason you also think the practice is ok.
Now, freeze told you that Abraham gave 10% to the high priest and returned 90%.
Have you:
1 check the bible to verify FRZ claims?
2 What is the outcome of 1 above
3 If FRZ is wrong, then educate us going by the bible
4 If FRZ is correct, then apologise and amend your ways.

Most of those defending their pastors have not opened their bible to confirm the pastors say. How much more check the bible to access the opinions of others.

Please, give us facts in your arguments henceforth.

Friend, no sane person wastes his time explaining to a proud person who just wants to advertise folly.
Those who hold Freeze in high esteem would listen to him.But a true Christian searches the Scriptures and is led by the Spirit NOT OPINIONS especially from untransformed minds.

Putting bible aside, his arguments are jaundiced and unsound.
Ask yourself what happened in the place he cited
Abraham refused to even take anything to himself but still deemed it important to tithe.
Who taught him tithe?Where did Jacob before the Law learn it?Did tithe predate the Law?Did Melchizedek reject it? What did Jesus say about it?
Friend, Jesus didn't condemn it but said THERE ARE WEIGHTIER MATTERS OF THE LAW..
When Freeze is ready to learn, he'll be taught.

Only those who were not convinced about tithing or those who didn't want to give before listen to Freeze.

[quote author=DSDLIVEREPORT post=7710179h0]How will the another know now Bro?[/quote]Proverbs 27:2
(New Living Translation)
Let someone else praise you, not your own mouth--a stranger, not your own lips.

DSDLIVEREPORT:
tell them . Then xtains shouldnt .share testimonies

Let another praise you..
Besides testimony is to thank God NOT A VOTE OF THANKS or public thanks to your benefactor.

Just imagine the bile from both sides.I thought someone was sincere with his advice only for him to join in what he was ashamed of.
When will people leave this nonsense.
Yorubas can't be better than igbos because you feel so neither can igbos be better than yorubas because you choose to believe that.
All humans are same and have the tendency to do what you accuse the other tribes of.Only a change from within is what brings the best out of us.That transformation is what Christians call being BORN AGAIN. The Old man gives way to a new one.Anyone that has tribalism in him or her is myopic and can not SEE Heaven.
Some engage in this nonsense because they feel they owe loyalty to some leaders.Some have never left their part of the country but will tell you everything about a tribe just by hearsay or a few bad eggs they interacted with.How fair is that?

It is not easy for unconverted man but it's possible. Just try Jesus

An Opinion that has no scriptural bases.
And some gullible folks will say he's making sense.
Anyways, bird of a feather always flock together.
Pronounce yourself man and wife indeed.

demolinka:
Both of them make strong points. But marriage is not all about regular skicho, marriage deep pass all that one. And locking up pre marriage didn't and still doesn't even prevent polygamy and cheating. Marital success requires very strong commitment from both sides, every single step of the way.

Bros..he's not talking about sustaining monogamy... He is suggesting that the sexual passion would drive many men to get married if that was the only way to get in between a girl's legs.Though it may be a wrong reason as many would discover that sex isn't the only reason to be married.
For the Simi girl,I guess the thing touch am.

Friend, let's not assume what he didn't utter.It's not about second term but OBJ's assessment of good governance.
He has been there as the number 2 man in Murtala's government and even succeeded him as the number 1 man for close to 3years as Military Head of State. He had the maximum two-term any civilian could have.
If there's anyone to stop so as not to break his record, PMB will be the least on the list.

I guess OBJ only mentioned that to dispel that notion.
OBJ's grouse with PMB is purely about governance.

horladexino:
I understand something about baba Iyabo the man will never support anybody for a second term because he doesn't want anybody to break the record of the years he spent in that position but he forget that two term as a president can never reach the time he spent at office so why worry himself

You wan make hin helicopter crash again?

gmaribel:
I am waiting to see how Prof Osinbanjo would react.

Omoluabi16:
Honestly these northerners middle belt mess up. No guarantees for the security of una lives, yet like brain dead people you were giving block votes. Sad nonetheless.

The results you saw weren't true...leave those film trick.I just hope PMB would at least copy Yaradua and say the truth.

So you believe The Result? El-rufai is up to something... Hence this terror.At least we saw some footage of people who weren't allowed to vote.

SheikhMuniru:
AND THIS SAME KADUNA VOTE IN BUHARI ABI, YOU NEVER DIE FINISH

So many gaps.
Why was he alone?
Why away from the PU?
Hope no be wrong person dem kill o?

Oluwabash:
This is not a campaign effort, but rather a personal testimony of my own personal experience, of what I know, about Professor (Pastor) Yemi Osinbajo, SAN, GCON, Vice-President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, hereinafter referred to as Pastor Prof.

Very amiable person, unusually humble, intelligent and God-fearing, a people’s man. I’d observed him more closely, after his appointment as the Attorney-General of Lagos State, given the bold policy reforms that he was pioneering, within the Lagos Judiciary, focusing more on accountability, transparency and good governance. I also knew him as head of a transparency initiative, committed to abolishing all forms of corrupt practices and abuses, in the public service.

During his tenure as Attorney-General of Lagos State, he facilitated electronic recording in the courts, spearheaded the radical amendment of the Administration of Criminal Justice Law, which has since been copied in most other states and indeed by the federal government, through an expanded ACJA. He created new judicial divisions for the courts and revolutionised the welfare packages of judges, magistrates and judicial staff. I can go on and on, but that is not all about the Osinbajo that I know.

He is a thorough bred intellectual, with profound knowledge of the Nigerian Law of Evidence, running a very successful legal practice, in Lagos. In no time, he was promoted a professor of law and was also elevated to the Inner Bar, as a Senior Advocate of Nigeria.

The real Osinbajo that I know is Pastor Prof, a thorough bred Christian of the old breed, committed to the work of social engineering and human transformation, through faith based projects. At the time, he was an Area Pastor of Jesus House, Ikoyi, which had become more like a haven for the transformation of the down trodden of the land. His wife, the ever youthful Mummy Dolapo, was always busy running an orphanage in the building next to the church, where teenage girls who have been abandoned and abused, were daily being impacted, transformed and rehabilitated. Jesus House had also become a place of transformation for prominent citizens in government, at the time. It was like a small family church. Believe me, Pastor Prof is a grassroots man, always so easily blending with the crowd.

Pastor Prof took the job of the Servant of the Lord, opted to be just the protocol officer of Pastor Enoch Adeboye, the General Overseer of RCCG, and was always on ground as one of the comperes at major programmes in RCCG camp. He was so transparent and clean that at the time of his glorious exit from the service of Lagos State, the Governor had to convene a special executive council meeting, to deliberate on the kind of gift suitable for a man without any record of blemish. It was then decided that a plot of land be procured for him in a private estate in the Lekki area.

Pastor Prof is a consummate prayer warrior, always fasting and on his knees, most times. All the times that I met him in his modest apartment in the Redemption Camp at the time, he was always upstairs, praying, and I had to keep going and coming, for hours, in order to be able to catch up with him, on most occasions. Then I used to wonder in my mind, what else is this man praying for? But now I know much better.

Pastor Prof is a gentlemen to the core, so very natural and simple, with no taste for allurement and the mundane. Very sincere and open-minded. In his very modern chambers in Victoria Island, I had cause to work with him on some cases, and he is so very tolerant, even to a fault. On a particular day when he was to have his lunch, he called me inside his office, to join him. And I looked at the food, boiled potatoes and smoked fish! I was just thinking aloud in my mind, wondering if Prof knew that I could just empty the whole bunch in my system all at once! It was then I got to know that Prof thrives on fasting and prayers. Just that.

And eventually Pastor Prof was appointed a provincial pastor of RCCG, in high brow Banana Island, but Prof just remained Prof, nothing moving him, nothing changing him. Prior to that time, I had occasion to invite him as guest speaker, in the church where I pastored in Alagomeji area and later on in Lekki Phase 1. He was always dutiful, very humble and always so cheerful and full of jokes. And once he gets to like you, you just become more like his family. So on a particular day on one of those visits, I invited him on a tour of my area. Prof just jumped in and we drove off! I was shocked. Just like that? When he narrated to us in the church the amazing story of how Mr Babatunde Fashola, SAN became Governor, we were thoroughly amazed. Prof is so very clinical in his presentations, both in court and on the pulpit.

He is fulfilled in virtually all areas of his endeavour. The dream of every academician is to become a professor, the highest position in any ministry is the Commissioner, the highest rank in the RCCG is that of a pastor and the highest office in Nigeria is that of the President, for which he served most creditably well, in acting capacity, on a few occasions. And of course the best an individual can be is to have a real relationship with Christ. And this is the Prof that I know; a child of God with incredible love and devotion to the kingdom assignment. Surprisingly, Prof does not believe in kingdom business as excise for non-performance, always stressing the need to balance the equities, in the interest of all.

Eventually Prof was nominated and elected Vice-President and I didn’t get to see much of him again save from a distance. It then happened that legal officers of RCCG were having a conference at the Redemption Camp and Prof was our guest speaker. I was trying to avoid him in a way, not sure of the protocol and security around him. Prof just strolled in and stayed in our midst, bantering away and throwing his usual jokes. And it was time for photographs after the seminar. As I was approaching, Prof just exclaimed and threw me a hi five, making himself available for a selfie! I was just wondering in my mind that this Prof just won’t change! So down to earth and humble!

However, since his sojourn in office, there’s been all manner of talks here and there, mostly political jabs and I will just be wondering in my mind if it’s the same Pastor Prof that people write and talk about. Most often times I’ll just call my wife and urge prayers for Prof, knowing how uneasy it can be, for the head that wears the crown.

Do I talk about his incredible energy and power for performance? May be another day, just may be.

May God Help him...I wish he spoke less. That way, many would not have doubted his integrity.

Imagine
A person who can not differentiate between a mere compliment and "love letter" wants to advise a person obviously smarter than she is.

So if a small boy walked up to her and said
"Aunty, I love your smile and how you taught us in class yesterday...and I'll love to see you teach us more" Does that translate to wooing her?

The Lady needs to advise herself

agaliboy:
The southwest of Nigeria, always a pioneer of every great feats in Nigeria. This is a fact!.

Angry tribalists and other dissenters can argue with their keyboards!!!

Friend, it is UNILAG not LASU..
Please desist from tribalism if you are a great mind.

Bros...money could also be her motivation. I'll be surprised if she says she doesn't want the husband's money.
Maybe she wants about $60Billion to start her own business and the man dey form prudent.

Reason am na

MrSix:
Errrrm
This is it for all the ladies who think it's all about money. You see, money couldn't keep them from divorce. She has all she'd ever wanted but still on still she wants a divorce even after 25 years of marriage and the bro wants it too.

Marriage isn't it at all. A contract marriage would be cool though.






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paxonel:
so that is adeboye's prophesies doing on social media?
That means he is not among the specifics and he is fake

is that what you can deduce from my post?I'm sorry you didn't get the point.

Sir, remember speech may be Silvern but silence is Golden.
No wise person FYI will take Freeze serious.I have observed him a few times and deem it unwise to read what he talks about.

Personally, I know prophecies can fail.I also don't wait for general prophecies.There are specifics and you can't find them on the social media.

paxonel:
Looking at the thread :
2% of the people here are still supporting adeboye while the remaining 98% are saying adeboye's prophecies are false.

It shows that nigerians are gradually developing common sense, unlike last year

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Friend, will it not be better to leave him to enter the trap? Or is it that you love atiku more than his supporters?
You must really be an atiku supporter in the closet o.

Yyeske:
Those illiterates don't understand the trap

At least he must say something to tell his ignorant followers something to keep them bound.Freeze sabi sway hin followers.

So if a Yoruba man believes in the Only God who gave His Only begotten Son to save the world and calls Him Olugbala.What is Freeze's business? Or if the Igbo man calls Him Onye nzoputa after accepting His redemptive work ,wetin concern freeze?
Now if both got converted by an English or Greek who calls Jehoshua Jesus and tells them that whosoever calls on the name shall be saved; and because of their faith in Him they adopted the name,how is it a subject of debate for unbelievers?
We believe in the name Jesus and it has worked wonders.Even unbelievers use it and it works for them. Those around during the Ikeja bomb blast sabi wetin happen...

Finally,the argument is unnecessary because if a baby lisps his Father's name,the father understands and still responds.

@OP
So prophets can't prophesy doom abi? They better face their work rather than dabble into what they don't know.
Always quick to denigrate Pastors.What's their problem with original or fake prophecies?
Imagine telling prophets what they should be doing..

Truth is the hallmark of Christians... Learn to situate things.If you have to generalize,you have to include others.Abi you never see Alfa wey be hypocrite before?

uba1991:
christians pastors are hypocrites,they lies with d name of GOD for a cup of rice.

KanwuliaMama:
Christians don’t marry Muslims?

When it comes to accepting foreign religions, all is well. Do Christians not visit BABALAWOS all over Nigeria and the world?

Do you know who a Christian is?
A churchgoer isn't necessarily a Christian.
No unmarried Christian will marry an unbeliever.

Are you sure you are a born again Christian?
Friend, there's still room at the Cross for you.
He that hateth is brother is a murderer and hath not seen the Light.
Read 1John 2:9;3:14-15

GoTV:
Just look at the dirty compound a so called freedom fighter lives. Yet they claim igbo land is full of mansions. If the palace of Kanu's father is this thrashy, only God knows the suffering of the average igbo man. Poverty in their region is hidden by the few mansions built from drug wealth. Upon all the donations received from gullible IPOB members all he has is a local calabar pepper soup dog and he values it than wasted lives of his disciples. I pity the igbos honestly. Biafra my foot