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I don't why nairaland is giving this guy publicity.
How does this useless lifestyle add value to anybody? There are many Nigerians home and abroad that can inspire people but they don't deem those newsworthy.

Meanwhile *Here is an interesting read*

President Xi Jing Peng of China said:

When I was a small child , I was very selfish, always grab the best for myself. Slowly, everyone left me and I had no friends. I didn’t think it was my fault but criticize others.

My father gave me 3 sentences to help me in life.

One day, my father cooked 2 bowls of noodles put the 2 bowls on the table. One bowl has one egg on top and the other bowl does not have any egg on top. He said ”My child. You choose. Which bowl do u want”. Eggs were hard to come by those days! Only get to eat eggs during festivals or New Year. Of Cos I chose the bowl with egg! As we started eating. I was congratulating myself on my wise choice/decision and wallop up the egg. Then to my surprise as my father ate his noodles, there were TWO eggs at the bottom of his bowl beneath the noodes! I regretted so much! And scolded myself for being too hasty in my decision. My father smiled and sad to me, ”My child. You must remember what your eyes see may not be true. If u intent on taking advantage of people, u will end up losing!”

The next day, my father again cooked 2 bowls of noodles: one bowl with an egg on top and the other bowl with no egg on top. Again, he put the two bowls on the table and said to me, ”My child. You choose. Which bowl do u want?” This time I am smarter. I chose the bowl without any egg on top. To my surprise, as I separated the noodles on top, there was not even a single egg at the bottom of the bowl! Again my father smiled and said to me, ”My child, you must not always rely on experiences cos sometimes, life can cheat u or play tricks on u. But u must not be too annoyed or sad, just treat this as learning a lesson .You cannot Learn this from textbooks.

The third day, my father again cooked 2 bowls of noodles, again one bowl with an egg on top and the other bowl with no egg on top. He put the 2 bowls on the table and again said to me, ”My child. You choose. Which bowl do u want?”. This time, I told my father, ”Dad, u choose first. You are the head of the family and contributed the most to the family. ”My father did not decline and chose the bowl with one egg on top. As I eat my bowl of noodles, Sure in my heart that there is no egg inside the bowl. To my surprise! There were TWO eggs at the bottom of the bowl.

My father smiled at me with love in his eyes, ”My child, u must remember!When u think for the good of others, good things will always naturally happen to u!”

I always remember these 3 sentences of my father and lived and do my business accordingly. True enough, my business was a roaring success.

Xi Jing Peng

Yes...but how are you sure this story is true?
James 1:19 says(New International Version )
My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry,

jamael:
This are the kind of things that happens when Christians leave the duty of getting close to God through His word to their pastors, priests and prophets.

The Bible says in Mark 16:17 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues"

When 'believers' begin to run after signs and miracles at all cost, expect them to be taken advantaged of by the devil.

Read your Bible lest you fall prey to all these wolves in sheep clothing who have charisma with no character, gifts with no grace and power without purity.

Lord have mercy!

My brother, there are many things.Prayer is one of them.Too bad If you don't believe in prayers.I have seen prayers at work in Nigeria so leave matter.I wish I could say somethings here but I Dont want people to misconstrue it.Suffice it to say,PVC is not solution now.You are free to get it but your safety before the elections is more important than the PVC.
If this was a Christian forum I would have shared more.Just saying, not getting it should not deny a believer from taking communion.

achiever12:
So, what's the major tool? Prayer?

Can you point to just one thing your prayers over Nigeria has achieved?

Hope you still know what happens to faith without ACTION?

Be careful so that your good would not be evil spoken of.Besides, how many people take communion? Is it not those born again in the church?Meaning this measure/strong push wont get all those eligible in his church to go get their PVC.Secondly will all his members vote for one person,/party?
I know as Christians we have to exercise our franchise but it's unnecessary to say what he said.If care is not taken,the next thing will be NO PVC NO ENTRANCE INTO THE CHURCH. Christians should understand PVC isn't the major tool we have.Letz wake up

Romans 14:16 NIV

Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil.

achiever12:
Some people won't move by just appealing to them; most times, you need to give them a strong push

My brother, you have a point but why deny a believer communion because of PVC?These things are common knowledge. Down south people put in so much effort to get it but are frustrated. Methink,if can is so interested in this they should monitor INEC and ensure it's easier to get registered. Where they smell foulplay they should raise alarm.As much as it's important to get this PVC,there are other dynamics. Christians should know better.We have something bigger than PVCs.
Have you asked yourself,what's the purported population of voters in Northern Nigeria? What happens if one of these top contenders die before the elections etc Getting PVC isn't as important as making sure the electoral process is free and fair.
I mean there are more pressing issues than PVC.For instance, who will vote if the Fulani herdsmen sack all these Christian communities?
PVC is good but not our/CAN's priority

resurgentxtian4:
CAN has to enforce the collection of pvcs.

We can’t be complaining of the present Government and not do anything to effect change in the way things are run.

INEC is also very guilty of disenfranchising the southern part of Nigeria while the North is being considerably catered for in the issuance of voters card. It is really frustrating vying for power and control with Muslims because they are so united and determined in achieving their nefarious goals.

That's why she is a Christian. Not a follower of Abraham, Isaac or Peter.Hebrews 12:2 bro

NwaAmaikpe:



Leah Sharibu... You brought this on yourself.
You would have been free now if only you were intelligent.
This is exactly why the bible says, "My people perish for lack of knowledge."

Are you wiser than Abraham, Isaac and Peter who lied and denounced facts just to save their heads?

If a whole Peter could deny Jesus three times so as to be safe and sound, who the hell are you?
Mumu.

Wetin concern PVC with communion?Just encourage them to get it.Let's be careful not to introduce unnecessary things.

Evidence abound but you are too blind to see,my friend.
I wanted to take you along the path of reasoning but I can see you are confused. How can you talk about evidence without being able to appreciate a thing?Would you do that without thinking?
I am reluctant to discuss The God issue with you simply because you have blocked your mind which is worse than being indoctrinated. You need to step up your atheist game because no deep thinker will take you serious.Just to boot,not everyone can appreciate evidence.
You need a level of sanity and understanding to know if something is true or false.
Imagine a blind man asking you to prove the shirt I'm wearing is black instead of first getting to see,learning about colors and their differences.
Friend, first thing first.

BlackManta:
Show me evidence pls

No evidence..... Kikikiki...Continue...I discuss I don't argue... I don read you like book... I'll engage you when you are ready to learn.I wish I can help you but of what use is a mirror to a blind man?
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BlackManta:
Your replies is an example of a child running in circles.

Simple question, you cant answer.

Your GOD has no identity, no name

Mr man, every god has a name.

We have Yahweh, Sango, Thor, Allah, Krishma, Zeus...etc.

They all have names.

How do you expect me to learn anything from you when you cant even tell me the name of your GOD.

I clearly told you that my disbelief was caused by lack of evidence.

I never said anything about critical thinking.

My reason is clear...I HAVE NO EVIDENCE.
What has that got to do with critical thinking?

It's up to the person who claims there is god to provide evidence.


Can you show me evidence...NO.

You cant even tell me the name of your GOD, infact i think you are confused theist who doesn't know the name of his god.

You dont know the name of your GOD.
When you are asked, you dodge the question.
How will anyone take you serious.

You dont know the name of your GOD, admit it.

It's obvious you dont know anything about your faith.

You are a product of indoctrination.

You were programmed from birth to believe and when you called to answer a simple question, you run away with flimsy excuses.

Na wetin indoctrination dey cause.

What a shame.

BlackManta:
simple question.

What is the name of your GOD

Are you dodging the question

Lack of evidence is my reason for disbelief.
Can you show me any evidence

My friend, I expect you to have gotten the answer from my replies.
My telling you His name isn't useful to you for now.Like I said,you have a long way to go.It's akin to teaching a KG pupil calculus when he hasn't learnt numbers.
Most people who claim their disbelief in God is based on critical thinking aren't as intelligent as they parade themselves. I flayed you by those questions and I can tell your level. Besides I don't have that luxury of time to waste.You don't believe in God or that He exist but you want to know His name. My friend, get your priorities right.If you like doubt His existence na you sabi.We don comot for that bus stop teh teh .
Like the Chinese say,When the Student is ready the teacher will appear.

edo3:
I concur sir..Meanwhile what did u expect from someone whom suddenly found himself at d corridor of power and also used the opportunity to get his daughter married to a family he never dreamt of meeting in his lifetime..He will surely say anything to defend such even if it means him to deny God...

Situation or Position shouldn't change a believer.It only gives you an opportunity to prove your faith.Joseph and Daniel didnt disappoint God when they suddenly found themselves in the corridor of power IN A STRANGE LAND.I wish he talked less and concentrated on the little he is allowed to do...I'm not comfortable with his utterances, if he actually made them.

Hmmn...there's something to always learn. If one can be so committed to prostitution as to take it to Borno,why are people not bold to take the gospel there?

My friend, you have no way to verify anything.
Those questions were deliberate. You can't tell if anything is true. I have an experiential knowledge of Him.If I told you His name is Sango or Zamfara,how can you know?You have a long way to go.

BlackManta:
what is the name of your GOD ?
He no get name

I have not been convinced that there is god due to lack of evidence.

Many theists in the world and none of them has been able to prove with rock solid evidence that their god exists hence my disbelief.

Btw, what is the name of your GOD?

BlackManta:
There are more than 4000.
4000 is just an estimate, there are numerous, even the least popular ones.

There are labeled gods.
Whether they are real or not.
gods is just the general term, it's up to us to pick which one is real or not.

MR man you never answer my question.

You keep dodging it and asking more questions.

This is getting suspicious.
Why are you dodging

Which of the god among the 4000 is real

Hmmm...it's like you dont know but you dont wanna admit.

Mr. Friend I'm not dodging any question. I know only ONE God not the gods you are talking about.The God I know is real,He is the Creator of all things.
Now i have to ask those questions to understand your depth.It is clear you don't have any basis to believe or disbelieve.

Are you sure you want to know?Which of them,I ask do you believe in,and what's your yardstick for labelling those gods?Why stop at 4000?Answer and let's begin from there

BlackManta:
You have not answered my question, instead you returned my question with another question.

Are you dodging my question

Do you believe in any of the 4000?

BlackManta:
Which god is real

Last time i checked there are over 4000 gods worshipped by man.

Which of them is real

Well,you chose your path..though a pitiable one.A man can delude himself and call it reality but truth is GOD is REAL and won't stop being GOD because you doubt Him.
He is Loving though He can do without us.
For your info,Even devil sef know there's God
..

BlackManta:
We are not so limited as humans.

We can do what we can and we can also do what we want.

Sometimes we have or create options.

I saved one life and abandoned 23 people to die, even though i have the capability to save them.

That is not me doing what i CAN ONLY do.

That is me doing what i WANT to do.

The story is just an analogy but stop trying to defend wickedness.

God is like a child.
Human beings are not children to him.
We are toys in his eyes.


TOYS not Children.

No sane person would ever condemn his beloved children to suffering and pain.

Only TOYS are allowed to be treated like that.

My baby sister is dead.
She was sick and she passed through so much pain before she died.



What justification does God have to torture an innocent girl, to put under so much pain and take her life.

Where is the justification
To what end

I would never worship such a God...NEVER.

BlackManta:
You have not answered my question.

Instead you carefully dodged it with your long story.

Read the post again and answer the question.

Dont divert.

I want a direct answer to a direct question.

What question? I already told you there's no basis to compare man's reasoning with God's reasoning.
The answer is GOD IS GOD Not Man

Kikikiki...
Not the Christian God...He is the GOD OF ALL THE EARTH.
HE REIGNS OVER ALL ,Including f.ools who think there is no God

Coldfeets:
That shouldn't bother you in any way at all.

Because...

The Christian God is a joke.... a very big joke!

Even as far back as in the old testament, he helped Isaac to cheat Esau and you are still wondering why so many Christians are so deluded.

It's very funny.

Hmmm... If she served God faithfully she was taken away before corruption my brother. You should take solace in the fact that she didn't die without hope.Like I said,God can even show mercy to a sinner.Mercy doesn't only address the issue of sin,We all need it.
I can feel your pain but our being alive today doesn't mean we deserved it.We are not better than those who are gone.In fact,sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.Yet,He shows us mercy daily.
Concerning the Concept of Grace and Mercy it's very deep.

pek:
Undeserved you say? My wife served God faithfully until her death. She doesn't deserve that kind of death. As I said earlier, people die everyday from one calamity or the other. Don't rub it in by claiming grace or mercy.

God created all things. He made all things for His pleasure,including you.
Coming to your level, when building your house you decide what room will be your toilet and what room is for what purpose. We have hierarchy as humans. The one with the greater power weilds influence,draft the laws that govern you and even enforces it.
God is not bound by our laws rather we are bound by His.
We are made for Him and not the other way.He is an embodiment of what is just and does not operate double standard.Better adjust yourself because He won't bow to your reasoning.

BlackManta:
The problem with you christians is DOUBLE STANDARD.

If a human being was discriminatory just like god, you will criticise him.

But God can discriminate.
God has favourites.
Even though we are his children, we are not equal in his eyes.

He can save you and he can abandon you to die.

Christians give God a free pass in everything they would criticise humans for.

Imagine if a mother has 4 children.

These 4 children were involved in an accident.

The mother has the money and resources to save her 4 children.

But she saved her favourite child and abandoned the other 3 to die.

If you met such a mother.
What would you tell her
Would you clap for her

Be honest and tell me your reaction.

I'm waiting.

So sorry my brother... But she is prolly awed by God's undeserved mercies on her.Hence,she decided to tell the world that her escape is supernatural and only God could do it for her.

pek:
That your sister survived a car crash is not enough justification to prove the existence or otherwise of God. To me, it shows lack of apathy. People die everyday on our roads. Religious people, people who serve God. Just last week, the chairman of CAN in one of the northern states died in a road accident. A church building collapsed in Akwa Ibom and killed hundreds. We are mortals, there are things we will never understand. Calamities abound. I lost my wife to a ghastly accident. The following Sunday, people were giving testimonies of God delivering from one accident or the other. You can imagine how I felt

Just akin to comparing oranges and apples.
First you are limited as a human and you can only do what you can do,assuming your story is true anyways.
God's ways are higher than our ways.For Him,death is not the end but the beginning of eternity.
God is not accountable to anyone.He can kill,He can make alive.He can resurrect.He allows the sun to shine on both the good and evil.Unlike you ,He doesn't delight in the death of a sinner.He can take a righteous person away before corruption.He owns all things and does what pleases Him.HE CAN NOT BE QUESTIONED
My friend, no one instructs Him.He is ALL KNOWING.
HIS JUDGEMENTS ARE RIGHT.
I wish I could oblige you the story of the six blind men of indostan.
Summary, God doesn't reason like humans who are limited.

BlackManta:
Thank you very much.

Allow me to narrate my personal expirience.

I used to be a firefighter.
One day fire engulfed a 5 storey building at Onitsha.
My office was contacted and me and my crew went to quench the flames.

It turns out there were 24 people trapped in the building.

As the leader of my crew, I gave them instructions. I decided that only 1 person must be saved.

The remaining 23 should be left to die.

So we saved only 1 person and watched as fire destroyed 23 lives.

Dont judge me.

I decided i will show mercy to just one person.

The 23 persons can die.

If a human being did this, you would call him a wicked psychopath.

But if God did it, you would tag it 'MERCY' and give testimony in church.

IS God not wonderful

Praise the rod...somebody...praise the rod

My friend I feel your pain but try to understand a thing before antagonizing it.You Dont get mercy because you are holy or because you deserve it.
He will have mercy on who He will have mercy.Sinners or unbelievers can obtain mercy from God.

sprints1:
so people that die don't have mercy of God... a friend of mine highly religious... his habit and behavior very Godly very nice can't cheat sef...very humanly died of gun jab to the head couldn't recover from the shock... so does that mean he lacked mercy...I believe God exist but I hate when people misinterprete the word of God...u die u die nobody knows 2mao...cuz life is gift from God and can consumed anytime by nature. be it mercy or no mercy u die u die u live u live

dayo2me:
The question is, is the God of those that Survive accident different from the God of those that died in many accident that have occured?


I Believe In God!

it is called mercy..No one questions Him.It's because of His Mercies that we are not consumed,His compassion faileth not.... Lamentations 3:22-23

Hmmmn...the bible made provision for it na...Remember, "let no man judge you in respect of holidays" Colossians 2:16.Thus,we are obligated to get biblical backing for what we do.Bible complete

HigherEd:
Well there is no part of the Bible where it explicitly says Christians must worship on sundays. Just like white weddings, easter, christmas. Sunday worship was an invention of the Church which has now become acceptable christian tradition.

I'm of the opinion that the church is free to do as it likes as regards issues like celebrations(easter, christmas), day of worship without looking for biblical correlation since those activities were founded by the Church post bible era...

No my sister..he isn't supporting Nnamdi KANU now...he is just angry at the double standard of the FG.No allow the title of the thread deceive you...all these OPs sabi give title wey no tally just for traffic

nairavsdollars:
Hypocrite Charly boy..why didn't he show solidarity with Nnamdi Kanu then?

I feel what you feel...but it's not stupidity but
love.The children were not the perpetrators besides this is beyond a tribal thing.I don't like sharing personal stories online but I'll tell you this.
The first story about the northerners I heard as a kid from my mum was how a northerner helped her as a kid to the train that brought them back .Her mum had left her as she had to escape for her dear life.Later growing up,I learnt what she called north was Benue cos I remember her calling katsina-ala.
I grieves me to know that the war was avoidable.Even Gowon regrets it.

Why I'm I sharing this?Some homebound trains may have been stopped and passengers massacred but some were helped by the natives to escape too.This conquest isn't essentially about tribes but religious faith.Even during the war the major propaganda that kept the Igbo's was that there was a plan to islamize them.
Let's be careful...never withold help especially when it comes to saving a life

BeeBeeOoh:
Whenever I see those sellouts I feel like skinning them alive honestly, someone did you wrong and has never apologized for the wrong deeds and you're trying to love that person; is that not a sheer stupidity?

One thing I'm sure of is that this fraud called Nigeria must surely die a natural death before our very own eyes, we shall all live to see it happen.

My friend we are gifted differently by God,unfortunately you do not know this with your "wisdom" that you are Hawking around online.Some of us can tell an intelligent person or arrogant person by just 2minute chat.There are basics.But I can't expect much from you since I can see the fault-lines.You talk about intuition, how did you come about it?Why dont dead wood or stones have intuition?

In your mind you think we dont ask the base questions you ask.You think some of us have not been f.oolishly atheistic in the past? Or think it's new abi? Just don't let us start.Even an animal recognizes the existence of God.That you don't know or can't explain something doesn't prove nonexistence.That's why there's discovery..

Martinez19:
Saying "Africans with chicken brains" doesn't make me unwise instead just say that that's your perception and standard of unwise people. Looking at Nigeria, one would conclude that Nigeria is a shit hole country and majority of it's citizens are chicken brained.

Hmmmn...so much for intelligence. I wasn't wrong after all.So what makes you feel your input is solicited in this matter?If you like continue to delude yourself.Many of us have gone far beyond those puerile argument about the Godhead. We know...not because we read...just like your type that looks for Dictionary to parrot other's perception. I hope to see you mature so we could discuss rather than argue.Wise folks weigh their words.You can't find them making sweeping statements like "Africans with Chicken brains".Whoever is deceiving you isn't helping you.Just that line apart from your usual unsolicited comments about religious issues tells your depth.
If there's anyone that needs to think,I think it's you because if this is your wisdom why you don't believe in a creator then it's either you are an halfbaked student of atheism.I doubt if anyone would need an explanation to that statement: A F.ool says there is no God .

Martinez19:
lol. Me, arrogant? Well, I am free to comment as I want and criticise anything I want to on nairaland. Christianity is a religion, if you think it's not then you either have your own meaning of religion (which is outside the English language) or you need to go back to secondary school to retake English courses. When it comes to thinking deep, you are the one who has to think deep because if you do, I see no way you would believe in yahweh for whom there is no evidence or proof for his existence. Moreover, there is no logical or intuitive line of reasoning that can inform man that a creator exist AND that creator is yahweh. Even if man believes there is a creator, how did they know that it is yahweh? Think man.

Martinez19:
The issues I choose to address is none of your business. In time past, I have addressed other issues but I am more of a religious critic. By the way, get a good dictionary and look up the meaning of the word religion then come back and tell me if christianity is a religion or not. Africans and chicken brain sef.

ignorance is bliss my brother. That people choose to ignore you doesn't make them stupid.
If truly you are a good critic,you'll think deeper than you do.
Like I said,I wish I could oblige you but you come across as an arrogant person. I hope I'm wrong because there's nothing to envy in an arrogant folk.

Martinez19:
I have always told people that religion is business and a scam and clergies are conmen. When you look at their displays be it speaking in tongues, vibrating in spirit, imprecise and vague prophecy, rolling on the floor and all, can you point out which of these acts that can't be replicated by good acting?
If you can't, then now you know.

ain't you tired of these lines?
And why should people listen to you?Una just think say na only una fit reason abi?
Nigeria issue dey there,government matter full ground mba na Church matter una wisdom dey show.
For your information, Christianity isn't a religion. I wish you understand.