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Mightymanna:
Why does Iran need these kind of weapons?


They want become the bully of middle east
Their ballistic missiles have covered Israel Saudi Arabia and almost all the middle east what will happened if they get a nuclear weapon?

Look at the contemporary history of Iran starting from the days of their democratically elected prime minister Mohammed Mossadeg that was ousted in a CIA and MI6 coup, the exploitation of Iran by US and its western cohorts after Mossadeg was ousted. The 1979 revolution that put an end to western exploitation and the economic sabotage that followed the revolution.

If you do a thorough research on this then you won't have problem understanding why Iran needs a robust military programme to defend itself against its oppressors

Trump2020:
yet they fired into empty bases

Iran didn't fire those missiles with the intention of killing US troops and for them to have achieved that without harming any US soldier shows they are good at what they do, a well caliberated missile strike. They did that to honour their slained General and they passed a message to America that they won't fold their arms and let any country bully them.

If Iran wants to arm US troops on a normal day they have proxies all over the region that can achieve that for them but they just had to launch those missiles first by passing a clear message that they are not weak.

And i think America got the message by not launching a counter attack, Mr Trump was wise this time.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgPs6lCj3F4

Iranian Missiles Threatening American Bases and Israel

In this video, we have examined the Iranian ballistic missiles. Iran launched a weapon development program against the embargo of the US and its Western allies. Since 1992 it has been producing many domestic weapons.

Iran is a big threat to western interest in the middle east hence the antagonism. Iran is the only country that can put and end to US adventurism in that region, America knows this that is why Mr Trump has been calling on NATO countries to be more active in the middle east after Iran struck America's base in Iraq. I don't know how they intend to achieve this after the so called NATO has failed in Afghanistan.

YorubaLord:
@Bolded. Those guys ONLY exist in Jupiter.

You are a liar there is one on nairaland and it's me.

Efewestern:
Dermmy what do you think?

"The accuracy revolution is real and no longer a monopoly of the United States. This has huge implications for modern conflict.”

Late last year the pentagon released a report that states Iran has an unmatched ballistic missile programme in the middle east, it was an assessment of Iran's ballistic missile programme but now they have seen how deadly and accurate these missiles are in real life. Iran is the second country in the world to have tested anti-ship ballistic missile. This is the missile programme America wants them to abandon while America keeps arming Israel and Saudi Arabia with sophisticated weapons. It won't work

Their missile programme is a great deterrent to their aggressors

dasphinx1:
Dem finally get this babe

E b lyk say you sabi her well well

lagdmark:
The western nation made false statement to the Middle East citizens that removal of Saddam Hussain, Gaddafi and other strong leaders in the region will restore democracy and freedom. Almost 30years those countries the western nations have invaded never had peace.
Today Iran is about to enter the one chance also.

What angers me is this their fake democracy of a thing they are preaching when they have crashed democratically elected regimes around the world and installed dictators for their selfish interest epecially countries who took their destinies into their hands by refusing to allow the west to exploit them. The west is evil

They haven't seen anything. Those who armed and assisted them in overthrowing and killing Gadaffi are the ones scrambling for the oil in Libya. There are different warring factions backed by external actors Libya is the definition of a failed state.

ursullalinda:
In all of these.....I learnt never to react in anger.....No matter how provoked you are.....now the citizens he was trying to please are now calling for his head

Iran was not trying to please her citizens. They activated their air defence systems after firing missiles at US base in Iraq, Iran was in a defensive mode expecting a repraisal attack from US. They mistook the aircraft for one of US heavy bombers. America did this in 1988 when its naval ship shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft over the strait of hormuz killing 290 Iranians onboard.

But Iran should have closed its airspace against civilian airliners before firing at US. It was a fatal mistake

Minjim:
Really

You didn't see doesn't mean it doesn't exist,

It's like you work with the CIA

Top Trump administration officials on Sunday morning struggled to defend an airstrike that killed a senior Iranian general this month, acknowledging they could not confirm President Trump’s Friday assertion that Iranians planned to attack four embassies.

On CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said he “didn’t see” evidence of an Iranian plan to attack four U.S. embassies. But, he said, he “share[s] the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”

On Friday, Trump said Iranian Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, killed by a U.S. drone strike, had been planning attacks on four U.S. embassies, a claim made to justify the decision.

That assertion was at odds with intelligence assessments from senior administration officials. On Friday, a senior administration official and a senior defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss classified information, told The Washington Post they were only aware of vague intelligence about a plot against the embassy in Baghdad and the information did not suggest a fully formed plan.

Neither official said there were threats against multiple embassies.On CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday, Esper defended the strike on Soleimani, saying it “disrupted attacks” and “reset terms with Iran.”

White House national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien also defended the strike, saying on ABC’s “This Week” the Iranian regime is “having a very bad week” and the United States would continue a “maximum pressure campaign” against the regime.

He also said the president has shown “incredible restraint” in the face of regular provocation from Iran and has also been “modest in his dealings” with other countries.
But O’Brien did not confirm Trump’s claim that the White House had received intelligence that Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, was planning “imminent” attacks against four U.S. embassies.

“What the president said is consistent with what we’ve been saying. We had very strong intelligence that they were looking to kill and maim Americans in American facilities in the region,” O’Brien said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Even with the United States’s “exquisite intelligence,” it is difficult “to know exactly what the targets are,” O’Brien said. He added it was fair to anticipate a future Iranian attack “would have hit embassies in at least four countries.”

Pressed on why the White House has not revealed more details on the alleged threat they say precipitated the strike, O’Brien said, “I would love to release the intelligence,” but “those same streams and channels” are important to protecting Americans.

Top Democrats have pushed back on Esper’s claim that the Gang of Eight congressional leaders was given information on the threat to attack the embassy in Baghdad. Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), a member of the Gang of Eight, contradicted Esper’s assertion on “Face the Nation” about the briefing to Congress, saying it lacked “specificity” about a potential embassy threat. Schiff said he and several members of the Gang of Eight were dissatisfied with the evidence laid out as a basis for the strike.

Trump and Esper are “fudging” the details, Schiff added, and “overstating and exaggerating what the intelligence shows.” When it comes to information that could lead to a potential war in Iran, he said, “that’s a dangerous thing to do.”

Trump’s claim about threats against embassies was also not part of a Senate briefing earlier this week, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“That was news to me,” he said. “It certainly wasn’t something I recall being raised in the classified briefing.”Lee also savaged the Trump administration for failing to sufficiently justify the strike. He earlier called the briefing the “worst” he’s received in nine years in the Senate.

Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.), also speaking on “Fox News Sunday,” criticized the administration for failing to disclose more specific intelligence during the closed-door briefing.“We got less detailed information there than President Trump shared with Laura Ingraham,” the senator said.

Killing Soleimani did eliminate “one of our worst enemies in the Middle East. … But the larger question is, did it make us safer?” Coons said.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said administration officials were “dismissive of Congress,” throughout the briefing on NBC’s “Meet the Press."

He also criticized the administration for relying on a George W. Bush-era authorization for military force to justify the attack.

“We need to have a full-throated debate in Congress,” he said. “I want to have that debate and bring our kids home.”
Sen. Michael F. Bennet (D-Colo.) said on “Meet the Press” that Trump’s actions “strengthened the hard-line wing of the Iranian government."

“This is a moment when heightened congressional scrutiny of the president is important no matter who the president is,” said Bennett, who’s also a long-shot contender for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.

Source:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/12/defense-secretary-esper-said-he-didnt-see-evidence-an-iranian-plot-attack-four-embassies/

So you couldn't intercept those missiles? Now i believe something is wrong with U.S air defence systems.

mrvitalis:
You all kept quiet when America did there own ...hypocrisy in this world is just too much

The hypocrisy is just too much. Instead of them to try and de-escalate the situation they are supporting their fellow NATO thug.

No... pls join hahahaha
You pushed Donald Trump to this point now you are backing out? Some people would say

"Israel will make sure America fights to the last American soldier standing"

American leaders should learn how to be independent in the pursuance of their foreign policy, stop allowing Israel to dictate to you.

Efewestern what's your opinion on this?

Iran said it would target Israel, UAE and Saudi Arabia if these countries were used by America to stage an attack on its territory. I think that is still in line with the laws of armed conflict.

jboixxx:
It will be considered but that doesn't mean you'll win it. Give them a video evidence showing clearly the drive when connected and the error message or otherwise. Have you chatted up the seller?

Have you tried with another PC? Both ends ain't working?

Yes i have tried with another PC i even thought it was my USB ports that have problem i decided to test with my external hard drive and it was detected by my PC but this Wansenda flash drive was not detected. When i tried it on phone i received a prompt to enable my OTG function which i did but the phone did not detect the drive. I have contacted the seller expecting his reply.

jboixxx:
It will be considered but that doesn't mean you'll win it. Give them a video evidence showing clearly the drive when connected and the error message or otherwise. Have you chatted up the seller?

Have you tried with another PC? Both ends ain't working?

Yes i have tried with another PC i even thought it was my USB ports that have problem i decided to test with my external hard drive and it was detected by my PC but this Wansenda flash drive was not detected. When i tried it on phone i received a prompt to enable my OTG function which i did but the phone did not detect the drive.

GrandMufti:
No

You mean my dispute won't be considered?

Good evening everyone. I bought 64GB OTG flash drive From aliexpress it's 12 days after i received the drive and it's not working anymore and this is the third time i have used it. Should i open a dispute?

OZAOEKPE:
He killed an animal


Iranians are happy

Really? Did you watch his funeral procession in Iraq and Iran? He is loved by his people.

Birdeyeview:
i laugh wen i hear hw depressed some people are because of admission into d university, wen we have millions of graduates out there still in search of jobs even years after they've graduated.
well since u completed ur sec sch, have u acquired any meaningful skill that can help u forge ahead in dis hard time?
a nephew of mine who acquired a skill in welding, iron bending nd also a pro painter.. He learnt all these immediatly he was done wit sec sch after his first attempt in jamb which was in 2014. now he's 25 nd has a toyota camry nd living in a 2bedroom rented apartment since d beginging of 2018 all 2 himself.
infact he registered his company wit CAC last year march nd has a workshop to himself wit boys who are under him... nd each time i bring up d issue of going further into higher institution he'll smile nd tell me aunty no nid abeg..although nw he's planing to enroll for a partime program in NOUN.
so OP its never 2 late to turn ur depression into sumtin meaningful...

That your nephew is smart.

WeRblessed:
Clap for yourself. At least you know the history of Iran. Do you know Nigeria's history? oh I forgot, Nigeria has no history?

Nigerians are always good at minding other people's business.

I'll teach you the history, politics and economy of Africa and countries in Europe, Asia and South America. This is my area of specialization.

emusbyz:
History teacher, well done.

Did i lie? .

mrsteel:
What are u even saying?
Was Boris the prime minister in 1953?

Because Boris Johnson was not the PM then that absolves his country from such crime? How do you people think? You better start preparing for your UTME and stop wasting your time on nairaland.

kolafolabi:
But why is he being celebrated by Iranians when he was a terrorist? I really need an explanation.. Any Political Analyst in the house plz

If you believe that slained General was a terrorist then you can never understand what is happening in that region. Who made America the arbiter of what is right and wrong? Go and look at the history of America's policy in the middle east and in other continents especially Africa, South and central Aamerica then you can conclude who the terrorist is.

They called someone a terrorist and he is being celebrated all over the region, they made him popular after death and they've united the shia groups in the region the more.

We are gradually forgetting the impeachment brouhaha. Mission accomplished Mr Trump

mysticwarrior:
Keep running you mouth my prime minister, very soon you would be made a scape goat just like Tony Blair

Don't mind the idiot. His country's MI6 and U.S CIA plunged Iran into chaos in 1953 by toppling Iran's democratically elected prime minister Mohammed Mossadeg and installing the corrupt and dictatorial Shah, Reza Pahlavi. That coup was the beginning of Iran's problem a peaceful country. Now hear what the idiot is saying, as if the world has forgotten. We know who the terrorists are.

Kekereekun123:
wetin the general dey find for iraq Will u find buratai in cameroon

Comedian.

The attack has even united Iraq and Iran shia the more to fight a common enemy and it will cement Iran's interest in Iraq and elsewhere in the region. It was a wrong move by America

When will the middle east have rest? This recent move by America has even strengthen the resolve of different armed group in the region i hope this won't come back to haunt the U.S. Middle east the region of chaos.

This is not a state sponsored hacking. This can be done by any hacker in and outside Iran who is not pleased with what US did recently. Even a script kiddie can do that. You people think Iran would retaliate by just defacing a website​? Lol. A country that has hacked into US drones over its airspace in the past.