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PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 2:01pm On Sep 20, 2012
Katsumoto: Tempting but I don't think so.

I don't want to be x/f/z/q/strangled by the x/f/z/qstrangler. grin grin grin grin
accept that invite at your own peril grin
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:39pm On Sep 20, 2012
fagamite: ^^^

Desola, dont let fucktards distract you.

Keep your eye on the goal

Gbawe, not naturalwaves.
That one, he's a shrimp. grin
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:37pm On Sep 20, 2012
naturalwaves: I don't know Y U are so sturbborn and unrepentant.U keep on dribbling and dribbling around even though U know what He(Gbawe) is referring 2 ryt there on page 1 but U'v so much bcom an xpert at pretence and deceit such dat u gain cheap popularity with them.What a shame! Is this U 4 real or just ur online personality?
My dear, that is life o. You are either the dog, or the one who eats the dog. Which would you rather be?

You gat to be a tough cookie in life to get by, dribbling and all.

You'll learn. You'll see. Just stick with me, I won't lead you astray.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:24pm On Sep 20, 2012
Gbawe: grin grin grin grin Joke of the year. Do we operate on the same wavelength? As if I limit myself to shouting "Jonasatan, Omo Igbo, okoro" et al throughout the forum. Foul-mouthed shrew, apologize or move on. Those are your options till I get bored. I have proven you are nothing but a disgrace to Yoruba women here. Nothing but a wretched, frustrated, cowardly wannabe bully who always lived in the biggest glass house yet revelled in throwing stones.

It is a isgrace that , on this well-read forum, you are the most vocal Yoruba female here conducting yourself in ways anathema to what Yorubas respect. You are nothing but a female tout.
The funny thing is that you know that i'm a female tout, yet you chose to engage me. I wonder how people would be able to tell the difference now.

Your futile attempt to bring the ibos into this is just the height of desperation. You think they haven't been reading on the sidelines and chuckling at the display of the "ever united" ACN Yoruba in the corners or do you think if they wanted to use this opportunity to get at me, they wouldn't? They have left this thread to run its natural course by not bringing tribalism or partisanship in yet you just want to drag them in. You think they'd come and attack me to defend you? You are sad!

By the time you're done responding to me, there would be no more feather left to cover your fowl yansh. I like that you are getting riled and really go for it. All those who used to look up to you as some almanac of wisdom would now realise what a real fraud you are.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:14pm On Sep 20, 2012
Gbawe: Dude, not good enough. You rightly identified where I wronged you here. What did I do if not apologize without reservation? Go to page one and view events. Then do what is not open to prevarication. You should simply ask her to apologize !!!!

You know who did wrong here !!! Why the blanket appeal? If people respect you for your intellect here, then that will ultimately be empty if they cannot discern a sense of consistent, dispassionate and neutral fair-play to go with that.

Ask her to apologize and move on. I have done no wrong here and I will deal with this silly shrew and her penchant for going around attacking everyone like a banshee from hell. There is a time and place for everything.

I don't need submissions from you that lets this uncouth cow off the hook. If you cannot apportion blame accordingly and in a fair manner, then please let issues carry on to wherever they will conclude.
Gbawe, I will ring it loud in your ear in case your hearing is aided. OVER YOUR DEAD BODY WILL I APOLOGISE. YOU WILL SIMPLY HAVE TO DIE FOR ME TO APOLOGISE!

A hypocrite and liar is what you are. First you wanted me to apologise for saying Amosun did 'nada', now you're asking for an apology for calling you by your name. I can't apologise for what is the truth. YOU ARE A LIAR AND A SYCOPHANT AMONG OTHERS!!!
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:10pm On Sep 20, 2012
fagamite: This is the cause of my life. It is a key reason that I come here to troll all these agbayas. It has never been merely a question of policy; it goes to the heart of my belief in a just and fair online forum. Now that you've seen the light, it is time you stop all the Katsumoto worship you seem to be doing. No one should be worshiped and none of theses fucktards deserve any respect.
I don't worship Kats, I enjoy his insight and how he brings facts to support his knowledge of issues. I haven't seen any trace of haughtiness in him at all as opposed to Gbawe. Gbawe has always had that air of arrogance about him but because he was able to sometimes express himself intelligently and always seemed to deal with the pdp veiled tribal bigot, I thought he was someone worthy of my respect but I know better now.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 12:57pm On Sep 20, 2012
Gbawe: Silly shrew, why don't you go to page one, confront your uncouth behaviour and apologize? Would that not be a decent way to let the issue "rest" than this your nauseating pretence and shameful attempt at playing victim?

You bring Amosun into this when you have already admitted that your uncouth rant against me on this thread was brought on by 'bad belle' you brought here from another thread.

Decent posters even chided you for it yet you rounded on them with the same uncouthness you are famous for. You are the only one "whining" because what I am doing here is deliberate. I am devoting time to make gutter trash like you understand you cannot go around with anti-social bestiality simply because some 'sad' men ,who need to get a life and stop cyber-eroticising, encourage you via celebrating your agbero behaviour that will see you only deemed an outcast in real life.

Apologize for your antics here or get lost. Silly shrew.
For as long as you continue being haughty and carry on with a delusion of superiority around this forum, you will always have me around to bring you down a peg or two. I would devote even more time to make damn sure of it.

Yes, I attacked you based on our previous encounter on another thread and confessed to doing so to another poster. Now, you are asking me to apologise for exercising my right to comment as I please? If the moderators deemed the said comment unworthy or so crass and uncouth as you have mentioned, it wouldn't still be sitting pretty on this thread, would it? I see no reason to apologise to you and non is forthcoming. Not in this lifetime, anyway.

I see that you are trying to kill this thread with your childish, loser whining so carry on. I can see that other sensible posters are paying you no mind and are carrying on with the discussion so no harm done.

Gbawe, you don't get into the ring with me and win especially when you are trying your best to subjugate. If you want trouble, i'll give it to you double!

Eran iya ni e, waa de je, wa j'ewe iya ma pelu.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 12:27pm On Sep 20, 2012
Gbawe: My brother, I thank you for your words here. Your writing always shows pragmatic wisdom. Beyond any doubt in my mind, speaking up as you do here marks you out as a decent person concerned with equity and fairplay.

I have been extremely disappointed at how the disgrace called Desola is encouraged to go around this forum like a Banshee from hell baiting and attacking others without provocation. She is even defended robustly when blatantly wrong by men who act as if gender is ever an excuse for siding with wrongdoing.

I thank you for you advise and bear it in mind also but I feel as well that cowardly bullies must be confronted exhaustively sooner or later. Continuing to ignore them is not really an option because cowards thrive on the perception that others are running scared.
What is the issue that pains you exactly, Gbawe? Are you gored that I commented that Amosun has done 'nada' to which I unequivocally maintain that I would not apologise for that you believe that I go around aimlessly attacking others without provocation or is it the two together?

For all the wrongdoings you accuse me of, I can list more from you so why not just leave it, eh? I have maintained that I would not apologise to you and you have concluded that I am the 'she devil' so we are all winners. Why continue to whine?

Let this issue rest now and let this thread continue.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 12:16pm On Sep 20, 2012
Akanbi_edu: Wetin happen to you?

I am really dissapointed in kats for not correcting you on this line "You are a cut above him". That was real low for me. I know how a respectable gentleman is supposed to respond to that, but I guess.......

What was that about? How can people who sit by siddon dey look use such language on people who are actively trying to make a change?
You need to understand that everything in life is relative and that some people don't see the world through your rose coloured glasses is not a sin. A christian man's bacon might be a muslim man's 'haram'. Judging by my NL encounter with both personalities (Kats and Gbawe), I deem Kats to be above Gbawe in all aspects but that is only my opinion. Yours is that I am totally wrong and that's fine by me.

Also, you presumed that Kats was online when I made that comment. He might have been offline or away from this thread or even if he had seen my comment, he might have chosen not to pay it any mind as it might have dragged on the whole issue further. Did you think about the "what ifs" before you jumped into conclusion.

Let's not drag this issue and take away from this thread. This is perhaps the longest existing thread devoid of tribalsm and insults so lets try and keep it that way. However, you can continue the insults on me o, I no send but let others throw in their pennies.

Thank you.
PoliticsRe: NAIRALAND MODERATORS: Please List The Mods You Dont Like And Why.. by Desola(f): 12:04pm On Sep 20, 2012
Mr. Globe:
You deserve to be banned and your ban button disfigured permanently! There is no need asking for your ip adress to be banned as well because you obviously browse from the only cyber cafe in Ado Ekiti. You are the biggest troll on Nairaland and you are more dumb than dumb. I wonder how you even manage to speak English cuz ur mates in the the village cannot afford that luxury. See your primitive ID self cool
Lol...how did you guess. But I have nine lives you know. I will always be back to haunt you.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 11:55am On Sep 20, 2012
Akanbi_edu: I was looking for katz response to my question on why he didn't join politics but just realized he edited the post. Anyway, the answer he gave me was that they told him point blank that he shouldn't. I would have pursued that but decided to drop it. but in the face of the below and failure of kats to at least put an effort in correcting this agbero that calls herself a lady, I am forced to revisit this.



See the problem here. I deliberately asked these two katsumoto and desola when they are joining politics for a reason. I know their type. Adete ni won. Won o le fun wara, but won le ba wara je. Its easier for them to pontificate here, in the comfort of their rooms and even declare themselves morally superior, holier, intellectual when everyday, people get killed maimed at the battle front taking all the risk.

Before you guys collect your online trophy, just know that Gbawe is far far above you two in understanding of the situation and has done more than you can ever achieve for the people you claim to love. Ka to soro, they say Yoruba this, Yoruba that, is yorubaland a country with its army?

Abegi oga Gbawe carry go jare, just know that when you wrestle with a pig, you expect stain. Just avoid personal issues. state your facts, if they accuse/abuse, just try as much as possible ignore like everybody is doing that Igbo bigot. They don't matter that much, although they think they do.

Its a political process that is open. Anybody can form his party and campaign for votes
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Eebu lo de po to bayi? Ki la gbe, ki le ju?

I forgive you because you have explicitly stated that you are an ACN member so I understand your hurt. You have every right to defend your party just as I have my right to defend my opinion.

I'm sure that you know that we don't all have to be politicians to know about or critique politics, right? If you are soldering for the right course, then by all means, soldier on but know that there are people at the sidelines watching you and we would talk.

Akii pohun m'agogo lenu. Eworisha!

p.s: what has Kats done to deserve the eebu? If you directed the insults at me alone, i'd understand seeing that Gbawe who shares the same party views with you feels offended by my comments but why rope Kats in with me? That he shares similar views on this thread is now a sin? Come on, Akanbi, you're better than this. Hurl the insults at me if you wish but leave Kats out.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 11:37am On Sep 20, 2012
Gbawe: Silly, lying and pretentious shrew. Who has anything in their "system" if not you? I came here to submit my opinion on the topic on page 1 and you responded with this:




This is the problem with foul-mouthed and cowardly wannabe bullies like you. You go looking for trouble and 'easy victims'. When you then get trouble and realise you have bitten more than you can chew, you revert cowardly to playing victim. You must think folks here are 'dense' like you. Your unwarranted uncouthness is one page 1 for everyone to see so quit this silly attempt at playing victims. The diaspora many of you love works well because adults are held responsible for their actions. Simply apologize for your uncouth actions and move on.
seriously Gbawe, you are taking the shine off this beautiful thread with your bruised ego. If you wish to continue sinking, then revert to the other thread and let's finish it off there. For now, let those who have meaningful contribution carry on. I will not descend to your level in my bid for this thread to carry on devoid of obscenities as it has been the case so far.

You know that I don't play the victim card. I never did and I never will. My being a woman is not a disability, it is an ability and I will match you pound for pound in all rhetoric but let put our selfishness aside and let this thread serve its purpose. You know as well as I know that I will never apologise to you - NEVER! So you either put up with it or your SHUT UP!!

As per the visiting Kenyan finding out that Yoruba women can be Yob like, i'd say welcome. Life if a variety. Just as we have tall and short, black and white, we have good an bad. If I am what represents the bad side of Yoruba women because I dare to oppose you and some others then by all mean, I wear the cap. I never posed to represent the Yoruba women of the world or that of Nairaland so why get your knickers in a twist?
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 11:19am On Sep 20, 2012
Gbawe: Silly shrew. This is all you do here. Encourage camps/posters to rise against others. You are nothing but a disgrace to Yoruba womanhood. A total cretin and foul-mouthed gutter trash encouraged far above her station. Remember you started this? Simply apologize and move on. You don't contribute much here apart from supplying ignorance that some men, out of a warped sense of nobility, then feel they must defend as is the case below.

https://www.nairaland.com/1050126/2015-jonathan-pdp-fail-s-west

If many had told you the truth about yourself, you will not have metamorphosed into the malevolent shrew now single-handedly disgracing Yoruba women , on one of the most visited Nigerian website in cyberspace, with your gutter antics.

What is the visiting Kenyan, for example, to think of the famously touted civility, decorum and grace of Yoruba women when they see your yob-like behaviour here?
Glad you let that out of you system and i'm sure you feel much better for it.

Can you muster any decency there might be left in you and return to the thread now?

Thanks.

NEXT!!!

P.S: apologise for what exactly? That Amosun is doing 'nada'? Well, goodluck to you because the only thing close to an apology you will ever get from me is that based on your pictures, he isn't exactly doing nada but could do better. If you are expecting more than that, then, you'd have to wait a very long time because it's not gonna happen. You might have successfully bullied some to submission in the past, but this is where your reign of terror ends. You have been rendered redundant by ME!!
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 11:01am On Sep 20, 2012
Sky Blue: A mantra I don't wholly subsribe too. Having alternatives is very important, but competition on the sacrifice of cooperation is silly in my view and makes the people lose out. Won't want to get too much into it right now.
It is possible to co-operate without being in the same party, non?

PDP did co-operate to with ACN to gain the SW votes, non?
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:58am On Sep 20, 2012
Katsumoto: Gbawe,

Thanks for your response; I will be back later to address it.

You do, however, do me a dis-service with the unnecessary ad hominem attack. You are a poster I have respect for and I don't believe it is appropriate in this instance. Your reference to Samson & Delilah is regrettable. I hope you will revise your post accordingly. In any case, if you don't I will address the post in my usual manner i.e not focusing on the individual.
A virtual Delilah whom you've never seen nor spoken or privately conversed with. You have time to respond to that rubbish? The man is feeling ostracised. You shouldn't even have dignified that rubbish with a response but as usual, you had to show that you are a man of class. Not one who only claims to be but one who truly is and who knows how to rise above immature, infantile outburst from a boy who claims not to demean women.

Abeg, Kats, forward march with your intellectual contributions ojare. We don't have time for people with chips on their shoulders. You are a cut above him.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:44am On Sep 20, 2012
Demdem: If am to get u right, ur expectations are considerably ok for ACN to meet but they are slacking. Fair in my opinion.
Going back to the killer party is a no no, probably we need another party to always keep ACN on his toes.
They are better than where we are coming from, however there is room for improvement.
Too right about that. As much as I initially wanted the whole of SW (including Kwara) to go ACN, I realised that having Labour in Ondo was actually a blessing because it is giving the ACN something to fight for and even refreshing to know that they would have to prove their good works to the Ondo people to persuade them to let go of Labour. If Ekiti succeeds, then Mimiko might soon be shaking in his boots but the Ondo people would not be fooled by this song of regional progress to just hand their mandate to ACN on a platter.

Labour to retain Ondo and perhaps gain another SW state. Now, that would bring competition and each party would know that performance is KEY!
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:36am On Sep 20, 2012
Akanbi_edu: Don't I sound like I am in it already?
No, actually, you don't. At least I hope not.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:33am On Sep 20, 2012
Akanbi_edu: Don't I sound like I am in it already?



Alhaji demdem, where you don see independent candidate dey win election before?
Maybe not in Nigeria but in the UK, at least.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:26am On Sep 20, 2012
Demdem: In the absence of our constitution not yet recognizing independent candidates, u are correct but believe me, I long for something better.
Brother, that is all that I hope for. For us to long for better and not be complacent and think that ACN has brought us to the promised land. ACN could be so much more but it is sad that some wants to force feed us into thinking that ACN has delivered even when they haven't even tipped the iceberg!

The ACN apologists need to give up harping on the evils of the PDP as a cover up for their mediocrity and get working. My fear is that they are being lackadasikal and I fear that with their current lack-lustre performance, the evil party might come from behind and steal the people's mandate. If what Akanbi edu has expressed earlier is anything to go by, then the region is not totally delivered if people's conscience hasn't been bought over by good works, transformation, direct impact. It shouldn't all be about recouping your investment, it shouldn't be about retaining power by all means and goodness knows that the disrespect of thinking voters are mere puppets who only needs to be thrown a bone to be controlled needs to stop. Yes, people might be hungry and yes, the first thing on their minds might be money to feed their families but when people see little changes that makes the community around them conducive, where basic amenities are no longer like gold, no amount of money would buy their votes. People do have conscience and ultimately, they don't want to be scrums of the earth who receive peanut. Inside them somewhere lies dignity and if you give them this, they would never take a million from PDP to buy their votes.

ACN needs to start working on the conscience of the people. Provide what is necessary, give people room to aspire and no amount would buy their votes. ACN would never have to worry about PDP because he people would know what is right.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:13am On Sep 20, 2012
Akanbi_edu: If you read that post again, I said some of these things are morally wrong and unexplainable but it may be impossible to win election without them. I am afraid you are not getting the point I am making. I'll ask you to consider the practicality of your outlook in this case. In the end life is not going to be about having everything we want but making meaningful choices. Consider it a market and our choices is going to be limited to what is available in the market.

Back to my question, if you have joined the political process when are you going to join?
When are you going to join?
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 10:09am On Sep 20, 2012
Demdem: I detest the killer party for my region however I can still live with the ACN despite their current imperfect situation. To me, its a better alternative considering all what we have at our disposal now.
It's not like you have any choice, anyway. ACN is here till 2015 at least.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 9:58am On Sep 20, 2012
I hope we (Yorubas on NL) can see the face of tyranny. What we all must fight. Hold true to our beliefs and not be dictated to. Seek the truth always and never be balkanised by those who's only mission here is to brainwash others that one party is evil and that the other is the messiah (all because they are paid to do so). The truth is available and we just have to seek it.

The only way to move our region forward is not to take every word written here on this forum by those whom we see as our "brothers" as gospel but to investigate and hold on to that which we know to be true. The bible says: Waa idi oun gbogbo ki o si di eyi ti o je otito mu".

Oluwa ma gba wa lowo awon amunisin o. Oba to you wa kuro ninu oko eru PDP a gbawa lowo awon jegudujera ti won fe di wa mole o. Amin, ase eddumare.
PoliticsRe: NAIRALAND MODERATORS: Please List The Mods You Dont Like And Why.. by Desola(f): 9:41am On Sep 20, 2012
Oam4j has banned me a few times(well deserved if I must say) but I still appreciate him for his hardwork. He is a very good moderator.

Jarus is a very level headed guy, very objective and do not let infantile remarks get to him. I like him even though he's an aboki.

They are both doing good jobs in my opinion.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f):
Who the heck made you a messiah and who are the said minions.

Please, please! It would augur well for you to desist in propping up your point by injecting my name into it.

If you can, try not to make this thread about Gbawe or your st.up.id president who does not know his right from left, whether he is coming or going.

The cheek of bringing Jonathan into a sensible discussion!



PointB: So this long emotional outburst akin to what is expected of a woman approaching menopause is all because I allege, and rightly so, that you are the numero uno merchant of the defective merchandise that is Tinubu? Dude you are simply a sissy, and a little cry baby. I know Katsumoto has done very well trying to school you about your obsession with Emperor Tinubu, but like a typical blockhead I can see how hard it it for you to learn the basics. Is it because an old dog can't learn new trick, or is just of your automatic switching to defensive mode, each time Tinubu is mentioned? Even so, you MUST learn, whether you like it not!

And whether you choose the direct path, or deploy the use of reverse psychology in the promotion Emperor Tinubu, the saviour of SW, folks like us will always be around to set the record straight, or the very least expose the fallacy of your argument. And let us be very clear once again. TINUBU DID NOT SAVE SOUTH WEST FROM PDD - FREE AND FAIR ELECTION ENCOURAGED, AND INSISTED BY GEJ (A PDP MAN) DID. Now get that basic fact into you thick skull, and reflect on it. You can call me whatever names you like, but one thing is clear, your webs of lies, and empire of hypocrisy is gradually been exposed to the whole world.

Sensible folks are beginning to see you for the lies, and hypocrisy you represent, and they are beginning to challenge the spell you hold over them with your lies. Desola has sussed you out, Katsmoto have tried to school you, Jmaine knew you as a bloody hypocrite, and a Tinubu acolyte.One by one the people are realizing the truth about you. Soon or later, the free world of Nairaland will come to the realization of the fact that like your paymaster Tinubu, you are not here to promote their interest.Keeping lying to yourself, and keep attempting to deceive gullible people who buy your bullsh!t.

Guy, you are simply here because you are a paid agent of Tinubu, whose simply job is to sell your master, recruit mindless minions, and deflect attention from the fraud, and shenanigans Tinubu represent, using the bogeyman - PDP! Again you are blatantly lying that Tinubu hold no power, that people of SW should hold their governors, and senators responsible? Is there anyone in SW who doesn't know that Tinubu hold sway over the (puppet) governors of ACN? Is there anyone who doesn't know that most of those guys are handpicked by Tinubu, and foisted upon the people? Is it not a truism that he who pays the piper dictates the tune? Who for instance is more powerful between Tinubu and Fashola, Tinubu and Amosun, Tinubu and Aregbesola? If Tinubu decides to use the several puppets installed in the State Assembly in the various ACN controlled states to blackmail 'arrant' State governors, how will clowns like you know, let alone prevent it? SW is sitting on a tinderbox, with one man craftily arrogating power, and means to himself, and you are here asking folk to look away - scaring them with PDP! I laugh, and sometimes feel sorry for those who take your lies for it face value.

Guy, you sell lies, misinformation, and plain propaganda, your are as evil as the come. People should start paying serious attention to you! You are no longer a joke, seriously you are a bundle of evil!!

I have news for you Gbawe, I am the one sent to rescue your blind minions from your spell - I am your nemesis, as you so named me! I will waltze in and out of affairs of any geopolitical region in Nigeria, and beyond, however I like. And you lied again, my opinion in Yoruba affairs (as in any other ethnic group in Nigeria) is very very important, whether you admit it or not. Your attempt to ease me off discussion in so-called exclusive domain only strengthen my resolve to participate whenever I feel like, and in whatever way I deem suitable. I have vast interest in SW affair, as a huge swath of my people resides there (even if I dont). So if Tinubu, will be picking and choosing amenable (puppets) leadership across the region, his personality, motives will have to be passed through a magnifying glass. and not a millon Gbawe can stop that!

You are fighting a lost cause even as your position as Resident Hypocrite, and Tinubu lapdog #1, remains unchallenged. It is a cap you daily wear with poise! Bundle of evil!!
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 9:25am On Sep 20, 2012
Akanbi_edu: I normally joke with friends to join the political process because I believe strongly that it's difficult to understand some things if you are not involved. It is even more difficult to explain some of those things because ordinarily those things are morally wrong. I will make an attempt to expantiate the practical side of the story. It's not something I would have loved to do online though but because I don't want some influential NL member against Tinubu, at this time, I would make an exception.

Let me start by asking a question, can you make a guess how much Amosun spent contesting election in 2007 and 2011 respectively. Any idea? I am not expecting an answer, just to make a point. Although, masses and bystanders like to say eh people should contest election for the interest of the people, good but.............we don't see people making active contribution by supporting those candidates not only in terms of money but in working for the candidate before during and after election. That is the reality. Those that are enlightened enough to differentiate between candidates and choose the better one........you will never see them in politics, 60% of them will not even register to vote talkless of voting and if it so happens that a little fracas or even a rumour of it occurs, it's a bye bye to them altogether. I call them useless middle-class. I hope you are following my logic.

So the politician(Amosun for example) has to put in his personal resources to gain the support of people whose only work is politics. I hope you know what that means? He has to start paying before primaries at the party level. Then election proper, you pay party agents who most times have to pay voters before they even come out to vote. There are at least 2000 polling booths in Ogun, every one of them must be supplied with raw cash. I hope you saw the gubernatorial election results in Ogun, you will notice that if we combine PDP and PPN, a faction that broke away from PDP, together, they beat ACN. That is inspite of all the crazy things that happened under OGD. As PDP guys kept dashing money to people to vote, ACN was equally responding even though with less cash. But the main idea is people still collected money before coming out to vote.

Now put yourself in a typical Amosun's shoe. You have contested election for the same office twice and you have spent something around 1 billion naira in the process. Another election is staring you in the face in the next four years, you are not dominating your domain yet and yet you have a formidable central party, with all the money and state machinery, to contend with. We are all human beings. The idea that a man will have only the interest of the people at heart at his own detriment doesn't work 98% of the time, we can only hope to have a situation whereby interests are shared. What ACN does in short is to seek a balance between[b] performance[/b] and retaining its position. Remember, you need to be in position first before you can perform. I can tell you authoritatively that apart from Lagos and Kano, PDP can TAKE any other state they feel like if you don't do "retaining your position" well and that means oiling your political machinery from time-to-time.

I know we all want good for the people but we are putting things in the right perspective here. Tinubu and Atiku founded ACN together, why did Atiku return to PDP? We need to appreciate Tinubu a bit more for now. The fixation on his wealth and supposed benefit should not make us lose focus of the big picture. He has built a party from one state to 5 state and trying to increase the tally, he's going to need all the money he can get to do that. This may not be a good way to put it but consider that model against a PDP that is founded using federal money. He is up against people who control stolen oil, police, army, etc so he has to strike a balance between performance and sustaining his side. I hope I made sense.

It is not the ingenuity or sophistication of Yoruba people that unseat PDP in SW, It is largely due to opposition politics played by Tinubu though with help from PDPs failure. People are equally angry with PDP in every part of Nigeria but have found it difficult to remove PDP. The reason for this should not be far-fetched, resources to prosecute such. popularity and performance are good but not enough.
The gist of this post is that Amosun invested greatly to be in the position that he is now and that his paramount concern would be to recoup his investment. That politics is not necessarily about serving the people but to match the opposition pound for pound in order to retain a political sphere. That's it's all about power. That the electorates are too stu.pid and that their votes can be easily bought when a few peanuts are thrown their way. That they do not know their right from wrong and it takes the politicians to dictate that to them.

By this, I can conclude that the ACN did not really gain the conscience of he people from the PDP but were induced by money? Okay, so by 2015 the SW region is anybody's game then?

Silly me, I thought the Southwest had seen the light and that the era of PDP was completely eclipsed but you have shown me that I couldn't be any more wrong.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 9:05am On Sep 20, 2012
I am totally loving this thread. The truth is all coming out. No stupid partisanship any more! It's not about ethnicity or religious bigotry but calling our so called leaders to order and bringing them to the realisation that power does indeed belong to the people; making them accountable and subjecting them to the laws of the land.
PoliticsRe: FG To Stop Funding Pilgrimages by Desola(f): 10:33pm On Sep 19, 2012
A very welcomed development!
PoliticsRe: 2015: Jonathan, PDP Will Fail In S-west – ACN by Desola(f): 9:18pm On Sep 19, 2012
Gbawe: Guy, where is the "toga of superiority"? Go back and read what transpired earlier and then comment. You all say you wan't good Governance. Yet you don't appreciate that many Nigerians have become uncouth, negative, ill-mannered and uneccessarily pugnacious creatures who only believe in using their mouth to curse other and tear down everything.

Many Nigerians no longer have any interest in nurturing and encouraging others. It is now about mindlessly savaging leaders even when they are doing their best. How is that fair or even humane? Here, non of you have even shown a desire to rise above partisanship. What prompted my responses here if not the ignorant submission of a shrew who knows absolutely nothing but yet fails to defer to knowledge submitted?

It is shameful how you guys are all failing to condemn wrong conduct. Utterly despicable.
Really? So you agree that it was unfair and inhumane to castigate Jonathan and his government when clearly he is doing his best. Ooohh...don't tell me, ACN can do their best but PDP can't, right? Double standards, liar! Hypocrite, that's all you are. A worthless piece of sh.it!
PoliticsRe: 2015: Jonathan, PDP Will Fail In S-west – ACN by Desola(f): 9:06pm On Sep 19, 2012
Gbawe: Why can you not show even a single example of this? I think you know why. You should simply show where I have been blind to the "wrong of the ACN". Sincere men don't malign other men emptily. The Ikuforiji thing is an example. You wanted to score cheap point. Unknown to you, I have already agreed he should be jailed if guilty.

Furthermore, all I see is shameless sexism and obscene sucking-up that sees you all keen to play saviour to the "damsel in distress" despite the fact that no balanced or fair person can back her uncouth conduct here . How is it that it is a foul-mouthed, divisive and uncouth bigot "we need"? Anyway, each to their own.

The truth is always exposed about folks like you who lack genuine sincerity and are only keen to say populist things. Did you not talk here about Ikuforiji, hoping it would be another negative indictment I "turn the other way" when it is ACN. Lo and behold, the archives show I have indeed stated that Ikuforiji should be jailed if found guilty. Yet you cannot even apologize for that. Whatever dude.

You and others are simply "woman-wrapper" who can simply not bother to be fair. Falling over yourselves to support a she-devil who is clearly wrong just shows the motivation of some of you. Did I make this thread about the ACN or did the devilish shrew you defend do that with her first response to what I wrote that was steeped in ignorance? When I then speak , and supplied evidence, to correct her ignorance there should only be one response from folks like you. Instead you are bringing jargon here about "ACN support". Guy, go back and read what transpired and stop this nonsense. Is it good to ignorantly and unfairly malign others? What gives that shrew the right to speak to others as she does below? Should I be insulted because I support a Political Party by those who lack manners and decorum?

If you can't prove I lie about the ACN then folks like you should get lost and stop acting as if I own you anything. Supporting a Party has been criminalised by intolerant people here. That should stop. By all means, tell those who lie to desist from doing so but leave it at that. Don't try to stigmatise those brave enough to show support to a Political party while many of you behave like dreamers who "just wants progress" without realising it won't come if you don't get involved and passionately support whoever you feel can deliver progress. This is the problem with Nigeria. Apathy all of you think is 'cool'.
O ma to yo gege lorun. Atooku maku, amona orun ma lo. So much venom from a deranged mind who claim not be partisan to ACN. grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 8:00pm On Sep 19, 2012
ndu_chucks: get a cubicle already smiley
Don't hate cos imma get some tonight! grin
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 7:59pm On Sep 19, 2012
Katsumoto: Mallam,

You be proper agbaya. LMAO grin grin grin grin



You are welcome; how about dinner? wink

(Abugije will soon be here to do what he does best)
sure! My place or yours?

Were yen o le block nada lale yi men... grin
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 7:46pm On Sep 19, 2012
Katsumoto: You miss the point of her post. Let me summarise if I can

1. She loathes PDP WITH ALL HER HEART AND SOUL

2. She was happy that Tinubu was able to remove the band of brigands (PDP) from her region

3. She had hope that Tinubu would do well and actually start to address years of destruction inflicted on her region by OBJ and his gang

4. She is disappointed by Tinubu's approach so far. vis-a-vis
a) method employed for primaries
b) nepotism
c) Tinubu benefiting from the system
d) not proffering pragmatic solutions, instead playing to the gallery with dead on arrival suggestions

5. She hopes that by voicing her strong opinions, Tinubu and his representatives will become aware that all is not well - To whom much is given, much is expected


I think that is her position. Desola, I apologize in advance if I got it wrong.
Kats, you hit all the points hard. Very well articulated, very nicely summarised.

You got it right.

Thank you sir!

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