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Elueme: Who then are you working for and whose political ideology in line with the present political movement are you propagating since you stalked you mouth to derail everyone who aligns thought with you? You should be wise young chap! Point B concurring with your line of reasoning doesn't equate a compromising position or wanting to win you over.

I am glad that this is coming from PointB's spokesperson since as articulated as he is, he now requires you to speak for him.

Duly noted, thank you.

NEXT!!!

1025: i know this jonathan is never to be taken serious at any time. january this year, he told us that there was no going back but he later came down to 97 and this time around again, he said there was no going back on N5000 note but he is going back now.
the other time he disbanded the super eagles and immediately ppl shouted at him, he changed. instead of behaving like this, the wise thing would be to think very well and make the right consultations before coming to the public to announce.

don't forget Maulag o.

The man is confused!

Katsumoto: Correct

For the proper functioning of democracy, an upper house of legislature is required.

That Nigeria filled both houses with thieves from all parties is symptomatic of the Nigerian problem. Fixing the problems with the polity should be a priority; the abolishment of the Senate would serve no purpose and further perpetuate tyranny.

My point exactly! Thanks for putting it so simply.

seanet01: what Tinubu is saying is clearly one of the obvious we have always know.
what exactly have been able to achieve with this bicameralism? absolutely nothing.
Have we been able to get it right then this call will have been unnecessary.
Tinubu is saying the obvious,
Lets remove the hatred we may have for him and address the Issue, please.

I actually do not hate Tinubu. On the contrary, I respect his political clout.

However, I want Yorubas to think this: Now that we have been delivered from Egypt(PDP), where do we go from here? Is Tinubu really our moses or is he gonna be another Herod? We need to start showing that sophistry we claim to possess and be more ruthless in choosing the right people to serve us - not lead or rule us, but to serve us just as Fashola is doing.

danjohn: Total nonsense. Formulate what policy? Are you telling me that the house of reps cannot formulate policy? Desola provided a comparison that was completely misplaced. The Nigerian Senate and the House of Lords are very different.

I didn't provide direct comparison but used the HOL as an example of a fundamental arm of government. I tried to stress on the importance of such establishment to the fundamental structure of the government and how its total removal can be detrimental to the core foundation of the country. I never compared their functions.

Technically, the house of commons would not have law given assent without the agreement of the HOL. The House of Lords can delay a law from becoming a legislation.

naturalwaves: Just wen I was abt apologising going by d fact dat U said ur post was borne out of previous threads,I saw dat U've modified d post into this & U lost my respect.I only made d comment cos I kuldn't decipher d correlatn btw d daft post of urs and wat U quoted. Atleast U agree ur post was indeed daft.
#Lobatan#

Moreover,it is a very childish attitude 2 make posts based on past encounters wit someone.It would av done U no harm 2 ignore his post if U av nothing meaningful 2 say it.It's just a simple social etiquette.Infact,some persons wuld av suggested u av ur brain tested wit dat daft post of urs in relatn 2 wat u quoted.

I had initially misread your post and thought you asked yourself a rhetorical question of whether you were daft. Upon re-reading, I realised that you had actually referred to me as daft hence my reply in kind.

You deserved the edited reply.

Now that you've prof-erred a lesson in etiquette, can you now keep it moving. Otherwise you'd be perpetrating the same nuisance you accused me of. Shall we let less daft people continue with the thread now?

naturalwaves: And Ow does his post make him a liar or a Sychophant? Y do I come across D.AFT persons on NL everyday?

You are actually more daft by replying to a daft post. You're not any better than the person who made the "daft" comment.

Ola one: Kai!

Hey you out there, name your price please. I want Seanet1 dealt with out .


But, seriously, we can't continue with what we have right now in SW. We need primaries. Imagine, in Oyo State, Dapo Lam Adesina was chosen. Saheed Fijabi, whose dad is a close friend of K1, Tinubu's pal, was chosen. Saheed became an honourable just like that without being a politician. It is who you know, really. What is progressive about that?


We aren't stupid.

Exactly! If we don't start rising against blatant slap such as that, we run the risk of being held by ransome by the ACN government. We won't be able to cry out because we would not want to be laughed at by others who are jealous that we have harmony within us. We need to start kicking against this now because once (if ever we do) move into true federalism where we have our own regional government, Tinubu would become uncontrollable. We must let them know that our votes brought them there and if they don't perform, our votes would get them out. Infact, I am now rooting for Mimiko to win the gubernatorial in Ondo. We can't all be one way traffic, even ACN needs opposition so long it isn't PDP.

PointB: Thank God you finally sussed that guy out. I hope he doesn't start saying you are attacking Yoruba and Yoruba leaders (ACN and Tinubu by his own reckoning.) When I call him Resident Hypocrite, Tinubu Laptop #1, some think it's an unnecessary attack borne of bigotry. Glad to see others are noticing the hypocrisy, that is Gbawe!

Granted ACN hit the Jackpot with Fashola (who incidentally is been pegged back by Tinubu), and Oshimole (a self made principled man). And even those two fellow have equal match in PDP's Akpabio and Ameachi, and APGA's Rochas and Peter Obi! The class of Amosun, and Aregbesola are very mediocre governors, comparable to the likes of T. Orji, Elechi, and several nameless Northern Governors. You will never see Gbawe agree that Amosun, and Aregbesola have failed to live up to their hype. Can you point one major achievement of any of these two guys? But Gbawe think they are closer to Clinton in intellect, and George Bush in decisiveness! All because those mediocres are of ACN. Pray say, have you ever seen Gbawe compliment or encourage Mimiko, despite the respect and love he commands in Ondo state? Is not clear that he is only interested in promoting the growth of Tinubu empire - never what is good for yoruba man! Gbawe is a paid hack, while Beaf probably did his for fun or believe he had in project GEJ!

So what makes ACN so damn infallible to the extent Gbawe will never bear to see that Tinubu (of all people) is parading himself as the one to determine the fate of SW. So far, the only Yoruba who don't see anything wrong with that is picture is Gbawe, and his minions, who have made every one questioning ACN to be against, Yoruba (even jmaine, was not spared.) My dear, fight Igbos all you want, but don't let any of your 'brother' pull a wool over your face! Tinubu is not fit to lead the Yoruba race, he is too susceptible to blackmail; it would be a massive mistake to entrust your bargaining power to Tinubu! Why is a Yoruba not the speaker of the House today? Your hated 'Jonasathan' or 'Tinubu'? Yorubas pride themselves as intelligentsia, now is the time to think for yourself: Is Tinubu leading you aright, is Gbawe still that objective forumer of years ago?

I'm sorry PointB but we are on opposite sides of the spectrum. That I can no longer stand Gbawe does not in any way, shape or form mean I am a signatory to your line of thought.

Tinubu is fit to be a political leader and far better in my opinion than jonasatan but to be the leader of the Yorubas is what I totally oppose. The stark difference between him and Awo is that Awo was not only a Yoruba political leader, he was also the leader of the Yorubas who stood for integrity, loyalty, vision, progress and dignity. All these qualities, I find lacking in Tinubu but for rescuing the SW from the evil PDP party (although for his own gratification), I commend him and indebted to him.

Ola one: Iya ni yen.

I love this comment you made on Page 0:

Emi niyen o. Omo to pe tan, to dun tan to see mu yangan lawujo obirin. Okin ni mi laarin awon arewa obirin.

shymexx: I still don't understand why we continue to force an American from of pseudo-democracy on ourselves... We're not Americans, and our histories and backgrounds are not relative - Nigeria is a tribal/ethnic based society, with different consciousness, based on ethnic lines... The Northerners are feudalists, Easterners are Capitalists, and South Westerners are more of a mix between Capitalists and Socialists... We're not a homogeneous country!!

To be honest, Senate has to go - and power needs to be dissolved from the center, to the new regions(formed along ethnic lines) - for the country to achieve greatness... America is a corporation and the American president is the head of the corporation - the states within America have more powers, locally, than the POTUS! The POTUS is in-charge of the foreign policy and everything under the corporation!

I still don't know why we keep copying a system of government we don't understand!

Sick country!

I agree with you partially, but for power to be dissolved, it would take an uprising, a revolution. You really didn't think that these same set of politicians would sit at a round table and agree to a SNC or abolishing the senate, did you?

Tinubu cannot be distinguished as a progressive, come on! Isn't this the same man that was alleged to have reached a compromise with jonasatan to deliver the SW votes to the same pdp he is now pretending to be against? Think people, think.

If we want change, we rise and not wait for all these vultures to do it for us.

Ola one: Iyalode gbogbo gbo.









PDP is not bad if you ask me. At least they do conduct primaries. You have to be close to a guy on Bourdillon to contest as far as ACN is concerned. The process is archaic and biased. And they mouth off "progressive" every so often.

Emi niyen o. Mo n kii yin o.

Eko Atlantic: @Desola,
You also have to change your way of thinking. Ignorance about the performance of a governor shouldn't be the basis of conclusion that the governor is under performing.
I guess you're just a kind who('s) spend(s)/(ing) all her life in Lagos city, and relies only on what she reads on internet.
What gave you the impression that Amosun is "doing nada"? May be you haven't even been to the state since he came into office.
I'm not defending all ACN's actions, but you have to know that they are miles better in an incomparable way to SW PDP flag bearer.
No governor in Nigeria can ever, I repeat "ever" be compared to Fashola in term of achievement. You making comparison of Fashola and Amosun is unjustifiable. I can relate it to asking which would fly higher between an eagle and a hawk. One is by far opportune than the other.

Other SW(ACN) governors are aswell not dulling from my assessment. Someone like the governor of Osun is just unlucky with the false trumpet his PDP rivals blow of him. He his made a scape goat due to his uncontrollable mouth. I see the guy as an extrovert who talk about anything he sees, thereby giving people like GEJ headache.
Oyo state is know for her unorganized plan of structured and ancient building. Should we blame the present governor for this? It's unfair. I know the guy aswell is not sleeping and he's bringing orderliness to the state.
So Desola, please don't judge the performance of a governor on what you read from media

I don't know what to do again o because it seems some of you just don't bother to read. Forgive my laziness but I can't be bothered to return to my previous posts on this thread to prove that I didn't make my assertions based on first hand knowledge. I did stress that my awareness or lack thereof is primarily based on what I read predominantly on the net, newspapers and on t.v. I haven't had first hand experience of goings on in Ogun for some years now as it's been a while since my last visit. I didn't check the ogun website but really, if I had checked their website would I really have seen objective information? I don't think so. Nairaland is one of the avenues in which I test the people's pulse on happenings in Nigeria and unlike Lagos, I don't get much information about Ogun. I didn't make any secret of that.

I laughed when you said perhaps most of my life had been spent only in Lagos. It is laughable, really it is but you are dead wrong.

If I were to judge overall and that is not taking Lagos and Edo into consideration, I wouldn't say the ACN has fared significantly better. But then again you die hard ACN members would call me evil.

Gbawe: Look, the bright and balanced folks on this forum will never fall for this your childish and silly charade. What joined me and you on this particular thread is your ignorant, imbecilic and hateful assertion that Amosun has done "Nada".

You even show no shame at your display of ignorance with how you assert you cannot find any report of achievement because "non exist". Where did I get all that I have submitted here? The Pluto recorder? ironic that the Ogun State website I directed you to, that started all this your ungracious attacks, would have sparred you this 'omo alata' display if you had only shown the good grace to go their and read about what Amosun is doing. Instead, as a hatefuls shrew, who simply cannot help herself, you preferred the opition of insulting and fighting others ignorantly.

Face the issue at hand and stop running from pillar to post. Anyone can take up my support of the ACN on other threads , and as issues arises, but balanced folks will know this remains about your bruised ego that is now disgraced badly on this particular thread and in specific regard to the topic you initiated rancour over i.e Amosun has done "nada".

I just don't know why , despite forcing your 'Yorubaness' down the throats of everyone here, you remain anathema to what every yoruba man or even community should want a Yoruba woman to be i.e a nurturing, dignified, respectful, classy, civil and decent embodiment of womanhood.


Shrew

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shrew

pops, there is no bruised ego anywhere. I don't have an ego and in a forum such as this, it would be futile to come in with one because it would be smashed on arrival so ego is really not for Nairaland.

Pops, I know you're getting on a tad in age but please do exercise your eyes muscles a little and revert back to my earlier posts in reply to your pictures. I appreciated them, infact, I couldn't be more pleased to see that I was wrong but the problem here is not necessarily the absence of work being carried out but translation. You see to you, what seems big, major, fantastic is to me, menial. I don't see those achievements you laid out in pictorially as anything out of the ordinary but a mere start. Can I not be forgiven for that? Can I not have an opinion on that, even if you see it as evil intended? All these things are relative. To some Fashola is doing great but to others, they believe he can do far better given the kind of monetary resources available to him. Do you call them evil for having such opinion? That you think my trivialisation of Amosun's achievements is borne out of hatred or reserved animosity somewhere is only your opinion and you are entitled to it but it would not change the way I feel until I see what I consider a considerable step. You can get all emotional about it all you want, that is your prerogative but you would not, I repeat, would not force ACN down my throat. I would judge only based on improvement and not some st.upid affiliation.

In case all I have said above flew past your old brain. I would reiterate and say that yes, Amosun has done more than nada but I am still not impressed. Do you feel better now?

More over, what is so wrong with being "omo alata"? St.upid stigmatisation on hard working women.

Furthermore, I don't force my Yorubaness on anyone, I am simply Yoruba through and through. I embody all that it means to be a Yoruba woman but I forgive you for thinking otherwise because we share different dictionaries.

Omo Yoruba ni mi o, swagger!

Dudu_Negro: Thsts why i said Tinubus statement has a different goal than what was stated.

Both the American Senate and the House of Representatives are the legislative arms of government. They are constituionally the same ; viz- legislature......but functionally different; viz -voice of the people.

The best way to see their functional role is to compare the roles of a president and the prime minister or president and vice president.

The senate is not the voice of the people.....the house of representative is. Senate is ceremonial. Its role is well befitting for America but may not be a good option for Nigeria.Democracy can survive if senate is scrapped, but house of reps on the other hand is indispensable.

Tinubu is effectively saying bring government closer to the people.

If that is the case, why is he getting personally involved a la sending his wife to the senate? Is he a do as I say and not as I do leader? His utterances are not in alignment with his actions. He now wants to do away with the same system he has tremendously and continues to benefit from? I don't get it. We need to be careful, very careful at choosing our leaders. He doen't even practice what he's preaching!

Gbawe: Guy, what are you talking about? Why are you bringing extraneous jargon to something that is realy very simple? Someone says Amosun has done "Nada" and I show proof (written and pictorial) of what he has done. This should be a fairly easy debate to adjudge if folks are working with a decent moral compass and not bringing residual issues from elsewhere into this thread. Why do you not have any problem with those who can ungraciously and maliciously go around saying leaders have done "nada" when they have? Must some of you just display shameless bias and lack of fairness? It seems to me folks like you are just mad at those challenging some of you to fight ignorance and the empty feudalism you come here with daily.

This is not an ACN issue per se. The two States I am connected with are Lagos and Ogun State. I would not , for the sake of anyone or anything, be part of lies about the effective leadership, or lack thereof, in those States. I will also not be part of ignorant lies to malign good efforts in those States either.

So freaking what? Gbenga Daniel built a few roads, he bought a few vehicles, so effing what? Did that translate into transformation for Ogun state or did that stop you from calling him all unprintable names under the sun? It's one rule for the ACN and another for anything PDP affiliated, isn't it. You are a sorry reason for a human. Furthermore, you are too emotionally and monetarily involved in ACN politics that you can never be objective to save your a.rse!

Demdem: I disagree completely. Just like any other man's undertaken, there will always be challenges in going about it so the SNC cant be an exception. First step is to appreciate the fact that the present structure is faulty and needs to be re-arranged. Soyinka's visit/speeches in Uyo doesnt in anyway suggest that he doesnt believe that this needs to be done. The jingle u talked about has always been been there for decades and hat have we to show for it? If it has not worked then then why do u think it will work now under the same fraudulent system? I think its high time we stop deceiving ourselves. There is nothing fair and credible about our present structure and that must change.

How many of such appreciation of challenges have actually seen restructuring. To say the senate should be removed is to uproot the fundamentals of the Nigerian government. How feasible is that, really? It's like saying America should uproot its constitution which is the main foundation of the country.

Why can't we just crawl before we walk?

The politicians in the senate are the problems and not the senate. Why not deal with the root cause rather than throw the baby away with the bath water.

Gbawe: You "brought" nothing out. I am simply pointing out that you are a disgrace to what Yoruba feminity stands for. I regret that , of all the Yoruba women here, an uncouth abberation like you is the loudest and most vocal thus disgracing and making a mockery of what yorubas pride themselves to be .

Beleive me, I remain too refined to engage you as I have slapped other men silly here. My upbringing, as a noble Yoruba man, will not allow me to speak to you the ways I do to others.

Nonetheless, It is just amazing how much of a gruesome 'train wreck' you are to observe. Most Yoruba women are the epitome of civility, tolerance, decorum and respect for others. Instead you are a hateful, twisted, bigoted and rude creature.

Many are fed up with your antics here but cannot tell you so. Stop disgracing a great ethnic group with behaviour that is anathema to all they believe in and famously deliberately subscribe to.

I am pleased for you that you see "b.itch slapping" "men" in a virtual community as a badge of honour, an accomplishment of some sort. Its good to see that even if you can't pride yourself in integrity, honour, respect, you can take pride in something so childish and infantile.

Go on with your bad self.

niyiduke01: Gbawe how are you today? It seems that you misconstrued desola1's idea..that we should not be taking sides with these our gluttonous politicians lest we become their lapdogs...can you tell me the difference between you and Beaf?..This is our collective resources and we should not be praising an individual for per forming the job he begs all of us for...infact if you ask your PDP counterparts,they will also show their achievements with pictures as well....Please lets keep on criticizing these politicians instead of praising them or they will become complacent...So i supported Desola's post on Amosuns "little achievement"....I rest my case for now. God Bless Nigeria.

...and God bless you for stating the truth in an unadulterated manner.

The old fogie does not understand my passion for Ogun state to do really well and probably isn't aware of my link to the state (bt he's not meant to know, bless him). I wish nothing but the best for Nigeria but in the event of that being far-fetched, I wish the very best for the Yoruba people and the only way to get the best is not to praise these politicians unreservedly but to assist them in pointing out areas in which they are lagging. Truthfully, I come to Nairaland to keep abreast of happenings in and around Nigeria and the beauty of being part of such community is that you learn of happenings in places in Nigeria that you woulnd't otherwise be privy to before the advent of the internet. So in fact, Amosun might be working his butts off but because he perhaps does not have the publicity machinery behind the governors of states such as Lagos, his good works are not being made public to those outside his state. It was with this state of mind that I concluded that he was doing "nada"(which i'm sure that discerning minds would know was a mere exaggeration as it is virtually impossible for him to do nada).

You see, Nigeria is crippled with bad leadership, corruption to name but a few and these ACN governors can not be absolved from the rot because at some point, some of these said governors have held positions either in the lower or upper chambers of the NASS so for them to come out now under the umbrella of a new party does not absolve them from the atrocities the partly created. I want people (most especially Yoruba people) to bear this in mind and start to demand more from their government and not be content with the notion that the evil PDP party is now out so everything is dandy. Very far from it, because the evil that lay in the pdp party could easily be re-awakened in the ACN. We claim to be a people of sophistry, so we should show that by not all sleeping facing the same side but provide check and balances to our governments. We must criticize when necessary and not just be so myopically content with the little they give and call it much. Amosun buying truck and tarring a few roads is good but we want him to tap into the economical viability of the state of Ogun. I want to see him partner with Fashola to bring Ogun to take its place in the pride of states in Nigeria. Ogun perhaps have even vast opportunities than Lagos but I am not seeing it milk into that. I know that some would come out to defend Amosun by bringing up the attrocities caused by Gbenga Daniel and yes they would be right in doing so but for how long are we gonna keep playing that record. We regret letting PDP in, we have learnt from our mistake and we should now start on region building. Okay, the old fogie would say that is what Amosun is doing now, but the magnitude of his work is relative. Whatever he is doing now, I know he can do much better and we shouldn't say because pdp damaged so much, we should be grateful for so little. Where is the aspiration in that?

Anyway, I have ranted enough. I have come to understand however that Gbawe has vested interested in ACN hence his inability to continue being objective.

Gbawe: ugly bigotry and lack of breeding on Nairalanders. I can do this all day. In the end, you will become a broken, nervous wreck. You may think you here defending "your people" but the real Yorubas, totally working with the virtues we respect, know you are nothing but a disgrace and an outcast. How many Yoruba women can go around, in real society, with the lack of decorum and foul mouth you display here with pride? You are a disgrace I tell you.

broda, e tun pada wa add si ni. Ee ya take e easy? Won ti kan posi yin sile o, it's up to you how soon you wanna go.

Ase bayi loro na dun yin to.

Gbawe: Desola, are you not even ashamed of yourself? Weak Yoruba guys may praise you here, thus giving you a false sense of security and a belief your conduct here is right. I can tell you now , 100%, you are the sort of "omo alata" no Yoruba father would want his son to bring home as a fiancee. What is the matter with you? I am saddened you are Yoruba like me. I cannot believe you are anything but a product of the most vile gutter. I know a million Yoruba women and most are not like you.

The few who are like you are social lepers and outcasts because they represent a regretable failure of the Yoruba culture to ingrain a spirit of decorum, civility and respect for others in its own people. You are nothing but a disgrace. Here, you continue to be rude despite the fact you are the only one who is discredited with how you claim a Governor has done "nada" when, in reality, he has impacted positively on the problems that ails society the most. Why are you so evil and rude?

You really need to get a life and stop coming here to vent your unprovoked frustration, ugly bigotry and lack of breeding on Nairalanders.

Lo ba tan! So what was all that gibberish about "I don't demean women", "I am too polished, too refined" bull.s.hit? I knew you had it in you. I am glad to have assisted in bringing it out of you and the whole forum can see you for what you really are.

Broda, e lo le, e ti ko jo!

seanet01: Aya mi, the reality on ground here is actually different from this your theoretical inputs.
To actually confront the monster called pdp you need a monster like Tinubu i swear. As somebody who have lived in Nigeria before i know what am talking about.
On the issue of the senate, Tinubu is right to some extent. But the failure of the senate to make positive impact on the Nigeria society is a remote failure of the masses. Not being brave enough to demand your basic rights is the issue. Tinubu is doing a lot more positive than negative. Though i despice some dictatorial tendencies of his, but history has in several cases passed a positive judgement on some of Tinubu's dictations. Example includes the issue of Fashola against Afikuyomi in an open primary, the latter would have boiled the earlier. Tinubu might have his mistakes as a human being, his positives far outweigh his negatives. Noff said

Seanet, ACN is wasting valuable time. They need to convince voters to retain them post 2015. Little changes now would prove to us that they can achieve these big aims of SNC and re-writing of the constitution. Let people see the effects of voting for you to represent them.

Sky Blue: Again, cheap populist sentiment. It seems to be the running fad these days. Want to sound intellectual? Call for Sovereign National Conference and that seems to erase all negative views about you in the eyes of the people. Calling for SNC WITHOUT a clear path towards achieving it, all the logistics involved, and carrying Nigerians along is nothing more that hopping on cheap populist sentiments (even Soyinka seems to have cooled off on the whole SNC and has instead started fighting for good governance as exemplified by Akpaibo after he visited Uyo). Does that mean SNC is a bad idea? No. But when Nigerians are really ready for that change some of us desperately desire then that change will come. It requires galvanising of the people and the people unknowingly have what they want. SNC seems to be the new "I will give you road, I will give you light, I will give you house" campaign jingle.

couldn't have said it better.

Dudu_Negro: Desola,

I like your response. Tinubu's statement has no substance on its face value but deep underneath it has monumental meaning. This statement was not made spontaneously.

You are right but really, is this the time to be making good but weak and virtually unimplementable suggestions? Didn't we vote the ACN for a reason? They are part of the legislature to implement policies, effect changes and not harp on about federalism (which by the way is a brilliant move)but effect changes that can be felt now, translate to a direct gain for the masses or betterment? Nigerians want direct changes now and re-writing the constitution isn't exactly immediate, is it? I personally don't think doing away with the senate is feasible.

Gbawe: Seanet,save your words. This is how I gain stalkers on this forum. Nairalanders can see what happened below that is now making this worthless market woman, from hell, to follow me around malevolently. The truth is that I will squash this silly fool bred in a motor park if I am interested in doing that. Alas, well-bred gentlemen do not engage or demean women.

This is direct history in the making and a chance for some Nairalanders to see why I have so many stalkers despite not being a controversial character. Gbawe gains another malevolent stalker because he conducted himself properly and bested hateful, uncouth and malevolent creatures intellectually and with[b] factual evidence[/b] on the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1050126/2015-jonathan-pdp-fail-s-west

Guy, save you breadth. I am just happy this example has presented itself as proof of why I have so many malevolent stalkers here. Proof of the sheer wickedness and hatefulk soul of some Nigerians who think they can go around peddling unadulterated hatred and mindless negativity. When you then stand up to them, they make you the centre of their attention and hatred. Typical.

so long as it makes you sleep at night at the thought of a beautiful arewa obirin is stalking you virtually, then it's okay by me ojare. Agba iya! Agba ti won fi nsepe f'omode. Awon abaluje dede. Nkan ti won ma je o je won gbon.

Eleriibu, you don't demean women, you just call them names which in your own dictionary means praising them. As I said before, your veil is off, the whole charade has ended. Go back to your laptop ojare, Lappy ACN 001. I hope you use a mac and not windows like the PDP lappies.

usmanyaro17: At least he is giving back to the society,I wish Shekau can do same...

I bet bombing and kidnapping would be part of their curriculum.

seanet01: Aya mi owon, owa jegunre bi? Egbon Gbawe kin se eyan be rara. He is not a sycophant i swear. I knew this fight was on the ACN issue but you mistook his likeness of ACN for hypocrisy, but he is not an hypocrite i swear. Unlike beaf who get paid for hogwash, he derives passion supporting a performing party. Iyalode Tinubu jowo jegunre

Aboo rimi bayi? Oro lasan ni mo beere o ti agba iya yen ma de mu mi bu ke. I respected him a lot and was to a degree influenced by what I thought were unbiased points of views and political issues affecting Nigeria but as time passed, I started to notice a pattern - a pattern where you were not allowed to speak against the ACN, that if you were Yoruba, you were meant to accept all that ACN does so as to resist PDP in every way. No one loathes the PDP and the jonasatan's government more than me but I refuse to be a sheep and take all that ACN does, hook, line and sinker. ACN isn't infallible, they are nothing more than an offshoot of PDP (giving that a good chunk of their members were at some point PDP card carriers) but they on the back of Fashola and Oshiomole seem to be edging their rivals. However, must we say because one is our child, we should over pamper it? If we don't remove the speck from our eyes, should be wait for others to do it? I have never read any thread where this man has constructively criticised ACN or is he trying to say that they are without blesmish? Trust me, Seanet, your egbon is no longer impartial. I have a strong belief that he is now being paid. He is not as objective as he used to be.

He can call me all obscenities in the book but I make no apologies for my NL personality. I don't wear masks like he does and to be honest, he has let me down big time.

while it appears that Tinubu makes sense in his suggestions, he is in no position to talk really as not only is he a beneficiary of the rot in government, he is also a perpetrator. That he created a party different from that of the notorious evil party - PDP, does not avail him from the ills he has also committed. If truly he believes in fairness and credibility, he would have encouraged a far more qualified ACN member to represent Lagos state and not foist his wife whom had no recorded experience in political administration other than being a one time first lady of Lagos state. Admitedly, PDP is probably the worst political party that has ever happened to Nigeria, but ACN with its oligarchic tendencies could be another PDP waiting to happen.

As per the matter he raised, my opinion is that for there to be check and balance, we require both the lower and the upper houses. Getting rid of one and giving absolute power to the other would be absolutely wrong (at least in Nigeria) because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely! What we need is an overhaul, restructuring but not removal. In all, our powers need to be separated and made more effective, less corruptible and more credible. These are what we need. Can you tell the UK to remove the house of Lords or tell the US to remove the senate? It makes no sense.

Tinubu should come up with suggestions that can actually be implemented not just talking for talking sake so as to be seen as an opposition leader. He is getting stale fast.

Gbawe: This is the crux of the matter. Had it been that Nigeria is not a Nation that bastardizes successful models seen elsewhere,Tinubu's call would be unnecessary. Everything in Nigeria has to be turned into an avenue for a few to derive stupendous wealth which should ordinarily go towards developing the nation.

Lobatan! Liar! Sycophant!

Gbawe: That is another way to put it. Threads like this show what Nairaland is. I.e a congregation of hateful, malevolent, extremely frustrated and bigoted people always happy to tear down rather than build. This thread was guaranteed to die as soon as I supplied pictures of Amosun working hard, delivering and spending the State's money on its people !!!

How many knew Ogun had a BRT scheme similar to the Lagos model that solidified Fashola's reputation as a performer? How many States in Nigeria have similar? Promise 100 transformers and deliver 500? How many know Amosun did this? Supplying very expensive APC's and Patrol vans to the police and directly taking over the duties of a corrupt, indolent and negligent FG? How many Nigerian politicians even meet their target let alone surpass it? The pictures have shamed many here into silence because it is obvious they can no longer peddle their hateful "ACN Governors have done nothing" mantra.

Who, but an irredeemable hater, will continue to indict a Governor who , in one year, has impacted positively on virtually every sector that presents the biggest challenge to development i.e education, infrastructural development,electricity, transport, employment, healthcare, housing, agriculture etc? My brother, they are shamed into silence. Let the bigots, always happy to focus on the SW obsessively, show us pictures of what their Governors are doing.


It is not a competition but the man focused on his own development, as should be the case, will eventually challenge 'voyeurs' to show what they are enjoying that is better than what they obsessively focus on and lampoon daily. It is just that Yoruba people in general are secure in themselves. This is why Fayemi, Amosun and Aregbesola are not making noise over their real achievements that are unmatched in Nigeria. As we speak, only Osun and Ekiti have non-contributory pension schemes in Nigeria. These are exemplary schemes virtually only seen in wealthy western Nations!!! Where do we place such humane achievements in a nation of extreme greed, inhumanity and political callousness where leaders remaining obsessed with looting every kobo available?

Alawiye apa keji. Ariwo igo lo ma pa alaicewater e. Keep doing your job, Tinubu is proud.

Gbawe: Thanks my brother. I try as much as possible to avoid "unneccasary argument" but we are always confronted with the reality of life and how all of us have to share our space with uncouthness and imbecility. weakness or retreating is not an option because that only encourages thosed who are steeped in bigotry, prejudice and a vacuous and evil need to be aggresive towards others without provocation. Sometimes you have to directly take on ill-trained 'agberos' and 'cave' folks so that those 'ill' individual understand your civility does not stem from weakness.

Gbawe, your yansh has been blown open. You are a liar, nothing more than a paid ACN hack. You have no ounce of civility or diplomacy. You are perhaps the biggest bigot on this forum who tries to hide it under the veil of "PDP is a demonic party" and all that bulls.hit! Stop the act, we are not fooled.

Agba rederede! Agba iya! Ona ofun, ona orun ni fun e.

somalia5: speak in english monkey

Really? Monkey? really?