₦airaland Forum

lakhadimar:
@beaf u were exonerating president Goodfu ck jonathan in other threads, but here you are calling for a protest march against the government of this same president Goodfu ck jonathan. You are an epitome of hypocrisy.

Good job, Sherlock!

You nabbed him!

afam4eva:
SE poor? There's nothing one won't hear in obodo Nigeria. You folks are just trying to console yourself. When the reality on ground reveals that the North and south west have the poorest people in Nigeria. There's a large gap between the rich and the poor unlike the south east where you have the largest middle class in Africa. Ya'll should keep decieving yourself with fake statistics that was probably cooked up by someone.  How  did they arrive at the figures?
What indices were used in the calculation? Someone will just wake up and decide to cook up facts and some lazy people will believe these fake facts when what's on ground is contrary to the statitics.

A shocker, I know. Take five to catch your breath, I know that it is a lot for your ego to take in right now.

But wait, assuming that you are right and that you lot have the largest middle class in your vilages, have you ever sat down to ponder at how that conclusion was reached?

Okay, it is presumed that a lot of you don't stay in your region, right? For that reason alone, your population will be significantly low and if you generate a fairly decent revenue; shared among your populace, it would appear that you are rich.

However, your population that left your villages and goes on to settle in the SW for instance would make the igr per capita a lot lower in that area because of an increase in their population.

So, you see, you lot appears to leech off the union more than the Hausas who don't move out of their region as much as you.

PointB:
Like you are even capable of meaningful debate. To faced, treacherous bit.ch. A true daughter of Awo!

A true daughter of the great Awo - that, I AM!

Clearly, with your last response, there is absolutely no gain in engaging you in a meaningful debate because you are damaged! Corrupt to the marrows! You a genetic liar and all that would ever come forth from your mouth is lies, falsehood, skewed truth and evil!

You are afterall, an ibo extract!

Doesn't part of an IGR go to the FG and a percentage to itself?

How many people are left in in these SE states, anyway when they've mostly emigrated to the west and other African countries?

IGR per parity would favour a less population than a larger one. If you share a pizza among 5 people, they would clearly be more satisfied than if shared among 10.

We should look at the population in the compared states before boasting that you are doing better than others.

At the end of the day, we are asking: what do you bring to the Nigerian table?

Pointb,

Did the ijaw man or calabari man have things in common before Ojuiku decided to make them Biafrans?

Do the kwarans and Hausa have anything in common before they were made Northerners?

PointB:
Lol, Igbo poor? What nonsense won't one hear on Nairaland. Any, if it is on the basis of IGR, it is clearly nonsense talk. IGR is just a function of raising tax, if the SE states refuse over-tax citizens it simply because they dont think it is necessary. I am yet to see an Igbo man begging on the street. So I wont comment further on this Igbo poor argument, it's simply out of ignorance or malice.


As for export of food crops, the last time I checked Nigeria is still a net importer of food, so no one is export food in any quantity to outside the country. However, if it is within the country, then you need to find out what is what is brought from across the Niger daily.


Considering the Middle Belt issue, you are a bundle of contradiction. On one hand you accused me of calling them Middle Belt, next you assumed I was looking for reinforcement in the middle belt? Where exactly do you stand?

For you information, Middle Belts have separate identity from the Sharia North, unless if you haven't learnt anything recently.

And on that point I ask my question, rather more specifically, can Sharia North stand alone?

You must have failed woefully in reading and comprehension as you have glaringly displayed your ineptitude grasping the point abut MB.

You sidelined the other parts of the northern region to drive home your lies about the North not being the agricultural power that we all know that they are. And that, my dear, is where you used the MD for reinforcement.

However, as fate would have it, a list has been posted above to show that contrary to your argument that the MB is the northern igr powerhouse, the NW actually trumps all other northern regions!

Another lesson for your uneducated mind is that the North is not in totality, a sharia state so just because the MB is not a sharia region does not discount at as ebing geographically in the north, hence making it Northern!

Kpom!

PointB:
I have not question the ability of the Yoruba to live by themselves, and for the SE, there is no doubt, not even an iota of doubt, that the SE can stand on their own. Various commentators have mentioned landlocked Botswana as a case in point. How much more SE, even without the SS. So shed no tears for SE, as they are more than ready to live on their own.

Sharia North is the focus here. I need not tell you that Middle Belt is not North, so when you talk about agricultural product be specific. Don't forget also that Cassava, Rice, Yam, Oil Palm, Plantain, etc are major food and cash crop produced in the SE. These days, people avoid red meat like plague. Fish is is the main thing, and it can readily be 'produced' in backyards with enough water! So quit yapping about agricultural North the argument doe hold! It is anachronistic!

Yes, you have made the North the case in point but in order to provide a balanced argument it is only fair to compare it to another poor region, ie iboland. I would compare it to the west but there would be a clear disparity.

Isn't it funny that in your sinister nature, you have cut the MB off of the north to score cheap point? Should I in the same vein, remove the ND from the south? Can you tell Olusola Saraki that he is not a northerner or tell Gowon or even Babangida that they are mid beltans and not Northerners? You see why you lot cannot be trusted in this union? You twist the truth to suit your situation. Why are you looking for reinforcement in the middle belt just so as to demean the northerners?

You mention food crops that are being produced in your region and to that I say: so what? We have all that in the west too but do you produce it in significant amount? Can you produce for export? What is the mass of your arable land? I suspect that erosion hasn't been kind to you there.

Fact is that most region or countries produce crops but are they capable of doing so for a large export?

Pointb,

Bobo yii, yara e 'brain, men!

You speak of oil and gas deposit and I tell you to multiply your oil deposit and I'll show you exactly that in Yorubaland.

We are not speaking theories here but practical. I am a pragmatist and can tell you that while you are boasting of some yeye deposit somewhere in your village, the West has it in abundance.

What counts however is what is visible and at the moment, the Hausas are trading and using the man power that you boast of having in the coffers, on their farms! They are living it while you are speaking it.

Now, I ask you again: Can the east stand on its own?

Beaf:
If you are all for division, why are you making contradictory noises like you are scared of the SE/SS leaving? Why are you so concerned about how the core-North would cope? You are not from any of those regions, yet you are so concerned? You are just a bigotted piece of of slime.
You sound scared, cos you are scared.

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You are funny, Beaf. Althoughh I believe that you are the devil's re-incarnate, I delight in your retorts sometimes but on this occasion, your response fell totally flat - it was deflated before arrival.

You asked why I concern myself with the future of the north and I wondered if for someone propagating a NL alliance of SS/se, you actually lack in the area of communication as if not so, you would not be so blind to see that your houseboy 'pointb' is actually the worried one.  
However to answer your. Simplistic question, I would say that my concern of the north is that of maintaining future trade relations because their agricultural prowess is second to none as it is currently been proven in Nigeria.

Beaf:
You sound so insecure and fearful. Its the ugly sound of a cowardly traitor clinging to a one Nigeria where no one works, but everyone sits back to divide FG money like a parasitic bunch.

Whoever called for a Southern revolution? Me? Lol! It is quite clear that I have called for an SE/SS and Middle Belt collabo to leave an abusive union, when we have left and no longer depend on your "knoledge of economics," then we will know who has lost economically and there wouldn't be any need to conduct research into the definition of "leech," where leeches gather and their natural habitat.

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I'm not surprised that you can smell my alleged fear over cyberspace after all your boss was wise enough to clear his nostrils to smell the threat of BH and made a U-turn and celebrated independence in his parlour. I am pleased that your deficiency in economics is quickly compensated for in the ability to smell.

I am all for division, which as a matter of fact, is inevitable. However, I would not for the evil nature of a few northerners, demean them like you and your cohorts have been doing. Would I want Oodua to have relations with Arewa in the eventual separation? Absolutely yes! Why? Because they are a very hard working lot and would be good for business agricultural wise.

Now, tell me if I would want to do business with the ND? Probably not. What would they provide? Fish? No, their rivers are polluted so that leaves us with oil. However, oil as we know is restricted to the control of the elites so they would in the long run not be of any benefit to the ooduites. I wouldn't even bother with the okoros because other than substandard good, they bring absolutely nothing to the table. The boast of manpower and I say we have mor. They boast of movies, and I say we get our own. So what manner of trade would I engage in with this group of people.

After all said and done, the long and short of it is that with agriculture, the north trumps the se/ss put together and would be more viable than you loud mouths!

Thanks to the north, you guys can eat beef instead of eating human flesh as it was/is done in iboland or poisoned fish as in the ND!

The north na una baba anyday!

manchy7531:
U are just an ignorant, dump, tribal, bigot, ode.okponu

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. . .And the breaking news being. . .

Abeg go siddon for one side!

@beaf,

Am I surprised? No-one is wise except they are supporting your treacherous divide and are licking jonasatan's behind, non?

How am I a traitor that I see the truth and not falling for your stupid propaganda of "lynch the northerners"?

Just because the Boko Harams have ousted your boss as the incompetent f.o.ol that he is you now want a Southern revolution? If you weren't so dum.b, you wouldn't have come out to declare that the north are leeches. By doing so, you exposed your disabilities in the area of the Nigeria economics. Either that, or you are being your plain evil self who thrives on falsehood.

The north brings more to ordinary Nigerians than the ND oil which only lines the pockets of the elites to which you are a beneficiary! Ole!

You dey mind them?

They haven't seen nothing yet! Once Boko Haram hits Lagos, no one would tell them when to call for their retardeen's head in the gallows!

They are reaping what they so but they won't feel the full impact of their ill decision until they are hit close to home.

BH is gradually working itself down south. It has successfully held the retardeen badluck to ransom and knowing that it has full power, it would unleash carnage in the south. First Mb, then SS, followed by Sw and then SS. You watch and see.

All hail the dumb f/ucks who voted retardeen!

PointB:
Don't be mischievous,
The SE has oil, gas and goal, but most importantly they have the human resources. And no body is thinking of shooting anyone, least of all SW shooting at Igbos. Besides, it has been concluded here several, that a chunk of the SS are Igbos, and they would gladly join their brethren in an emergent nation.

So the question again, how will the North fare?

Who are these ibo chunk you speak of? I think it will augur well for you to start dropping the names of these so called 'ibo chunk' so that we know exactly what you are mischievously aiming at.

By the way, who are the faceless ones that concluded here that ND consist predominantly of ibos? Are you by any chance referring to your many monikers and that of your ibo brothers who take on different personas and lie that they are delta ibos who support biafra or are you going by the bullshit being fed to you by beaf? Have you actually left your cybercafe chair and conducted a real life research on the streets of ND? How did you fare in tertiary education (assuming you had one) with your armchair research? You are even more s.t.upid than I thought!

Yes, there is no doubt that you have human resources but hello, The north holds stronger sway in that department than yourselves and as a matter of fact, ever African nation! However, where would you house these your human resources when your land has been abused and raped by erosion?

Except you lot get better at making better quality goods and improve on your movie production, what more are you lot good for? When you do go your way, have you thought of where your raw materials for making these substandard good would come from? May I remind you that these "backward Northerners" whom according to uou and your mentor - beaf are leeches, provide a good chunk of it? Oh, no, you thought the materials come from Onitsha?

You people need to get off your effing high horse and smell the coffee! Devoid of Nollywood and aba made apparells, you lot don't bring jack robinson to the table in the Nigerian entity! Even your so called nollywood is a clan business that is meant to feed people of your region alone and we can see how far that as got you in your enclaves!

The North is more viable than you lot and are more pro Nigeria and contributed far more to its sustenance than you ar.sewipes!

The north are certainly not scared to do away with Nigeria but want a share of the ND cake just like you effing thieves! No be una say make we wait for them until they are ready for independence? So you want them to leave and let you lot milk the ND alone? Ole barawo banzas!

See okoro man and wayo o, cleverly writing SS/SE as if they were an entity already. Ole, barawo banza!

The question is: how will the ibos fare if we decide to shoot them back to their eroded villages? How would they fare without attaching themselves to the oil of the ND?

Now, that is the question!

Meeting was a success. Your mother made a pledge of your head on a platter.

We all rejoiced.

It is clear that armed robbers have access to internet too otherwise, why would Lathief a hired killer cum armed robber, who can't string a correct sentence together grammatically be calling for bloodshed?

Na your family blood go flow yanfu yanfu!

lateef4me:
It costs us nothin if we prepare ,

And make no mistake about it,Nigeria is at war !

I pray that the first bomb be detonated in your compound.

Oloshi!

Reading this thread broke my already fragile heart.

Gbawe, thank you for you relentless effort to bring the truth into the light.

And to you, Seun, eat all you can now but remember that kamar would come to bite you in the behind.

Pointb,

Why are you and your cohorts so devilish? Is it because you as a people(the ibos) are too ashamed to admit that you got it wrong or that you are happy that Jonasatan is assisting you lot in realising yor dream of a defunct Nigeria?

How can any right thinking individual profess that this government isn't the worse in their existence as a Nigerian? Could it be because of the paltry handouts being bestowed on you as a people or that beaf is now sharing his little crumbs with you?

The earlier we do away with you ibos the better because you; side by side with the bokos and Jonasatan are the worst things that has ever happened to Nigeria.

Evils!!!

lateef4me:
@Farochron, I understand d need to deal with dos corrupt entities but d major problem is dat Nigerians have neva see themselves as one .

Why then shd we continue pretendin dat we ar one ?

Let's go our separate way first,then it is wil easier dealin ruthlessly with dos corrupt entities !

See the yeye person wey won go to war? Would you even be able to read the manual that comes with a gun or even give a written navigation for the benefit of your operation?

Common sentence construction, you are incapable of, yet you sounding the drums of war. The best war Yorubas would ever fight would be to kill useless baggage like you who have wasted the space of far promising youths in education.

It is with ill educated non entities like this that we continue to hear the cry for nonstrategic wars.

Waste of space, waste of money!

lateef4me:
@Desola,stay off my radar,stop watchin dis thread lik vulture u silly,naughty ,witch !

Emi ati iya e ni witch!

Mi o mo wipe ati ni lilo fun iwe irinse lori gbagede oro yi.

Olodo oshi. Owo o funa lori e rara. O ya pada lo si ile eko agba.

Lathief,

iwo ati gbogbo fadaborn e ni 'silly'.

Obo lagido omo ajokutamamumi oshi1!

Stay alone, you should!

VoodooDoll:
What have Oso done now? Abeg oh, We get a bad reputation for things we didn't do,

Iparapo awon eleye, e kaabo sori eto. NRC!!

Abeg make I go carry my bible to start binding, its past midnight.

For we fight not against guns and amunition but principalities and power,

meonbooty:
Se aje ni e ni?

Ewo n t'ofo?

Se oso ni e ni?

Ewo n'tayonuso?

Rgp92:
His Zno  Anyway, ignore this Desola girl, shes very . . .

Asinwin aburo were. Ki iye e pare mo e ninu!

PointB:
Lateef don't let these girls get at you. You are better of moving on than trying to reason with them. THIS IS CYBER!

Boniface,

You never close shop? Pokenoser oshi!

Lathief,

Assuming Ufe is superior to me intellectually, you, on the other hand, are not fit to wipe my shoes.

Ignorancy?

Is that even a word?

Ibon ooooooo!!!

Not only did you not get A1 in Yoruba, you got F9 in English!

Next time, try igbo.

Muhahhahaha, okoro feeling funky. Oke ira ko, oke koto local government ni!

Lateef,

Oro e o jo mi loju nitoripe iran awon alaimoore lo ti wa. O ti je ounje ata ati t'epo ilu mi, o ti ko eede mi amo omo ale o le sebi omo oko lailai, omo ale naa ni yi o maa je!

Eede aiyede ti iwo ati okoro bii ti e ti won fe da sile laarin wa o ni sele. A kii se eran ileya bii eyin okoro ti o ki n ronu k'oto lo si oju ogun. E ran wahala ile yin na ki e to ma toju bo ile onile. Awon omo asinwin ti won mo ona ile. A fi oju le yin, a fi oro le yin amo ee gba, e taku wipe afi dandan gbon wipe ke joko si ilu eko. Ile la ti n ko eso r'ode, ki le se fun ilu yin? Awon omo olori kori!