₦airaland Forum

thelastpope10: You just typed bullcrap! Absolute bullcrap. You are a product of your environment, not your color or country of origin. Your environment! Some of you are suffering from inferiority complex. A man has lived in Briton all his life and as soon as he commits a crime, you tag him a Nigeria. That is a terrible sign of low self esteem! Terrible!!!

sorry, I have very low tolerance for rubbish.

Try the next commentator, please.

All this "british born", "he has a british accent" balderdash has to stop! This is what makes some Nigerian parents absolve themselves of their responsibilities because once a child is born in the UK, he or she becomes an "automatic briton", thereby deferring their parental responsibilities to the social services. Any child born in the UK and raised by Nigerian parents, is as far as I am concerned, predominantly Nigerian by customs and as such any shortcomings in his character is a direct mirror image of his parents irresponsibility and neglect!

The same stup1d idea that makes Nigerian parents in Nigeria prohibit their children from speaking their native mother tongues at home in the hope of making them more "educated". Despite the futile effort, the child speaks English but still acts very Yoruba.

Rubbish! Nonsense! Arrant jagbajantis!

zumbigbo: Britain don pepper immigrants with too much work to pay taxes, so parents no dey to raise children.

children then raised by ghetto/mosque/drink/church/drugs.... philosophies...

result ....Confusion plenty.

True!

Prof Corruption: Being Nigerian in this context is a mere legal connotation. A man brought up in Britain in all ramifications-education, culture, etc etc-is more British than Nigerian. I as a person consider him a Briton.

You can't just lay the blame squarely on the parents. one, they are not magicians. Many kids parading themselves as adults never really grow up. Two, we really don't have enough information at this point to reach such a conclusion. It may later turn out that his parents are blameless. Three, there are many who are from a messy home but still make success of their lives.Let's this man account for his atrocities, leave the parent angle.

The key component is what people are shying from discussing and that's the influence of Islam. How did it happen that a Michael got converted and radicalized to a Mujahid? What's in Islam that make many prone to this kind of behavior? Answers to such questions may likely prevent a re-occurrence.

I really do not know where to start responding to this post without getting hot under the collar but in the meantime, I must say that I do not buy your postulations that the blame should not lie at the parents feet. Surely, the parents got it wrong somewhere when he started to mix with the wrong group and they did not take note of it. They must have noticed something, must have seen things. I can't provide a coherent rebuttal right now as I am so angry with Nigerian parents right now and this silly notion that when their children are born in the UK, they lose their Nigerian heritage, customs and traditions. I say that is absolute balderdash! Actually, I beg to differ on your notion that the boy's Nigerianness is only in the legal sense - absolutely not! He is legally British but idealistically most probably Nigerian. He was raised by Nigerian parents, on partial Nigerian mentality. Children spend their formative years with their parents so what they grow up to be is a mirror of what their parents have invested in them and not what the teachers have taught them.

This attrocious act throws all the ills of Nigeria up once again. We have not only failed as a country, we have failed individually and our sh1t reeks and the whole world can now smell it more than before!

Are they meant to sit around while Jonathan kills all their people?

Sexkillz,

you are a closet bigot!

Why hiding my posts which has no tribal overtones or undertones at all?

You are hell bent on frustrating me out of this site (both you and Seun) but I will show you in particular that I was here before you and would outlive you.

Blatantly stifling free flow of expression.

Prof Corruption: It's nonsensical to call him a Nigerian. He was brought up in British culture, influenced by whatever it was in Britain, spoke in a flawless British accent and perhaps never visited Nigeria. Instead of shouting Nigerians all over the place, the British society should look inwards and stop whatever is radicalizing youths in Britain. Mutallab was equally radicalized in England. Damned!!

He is still Nigerian!

The blame in my opinion lies squarely at his parents feet. They basically failed!

tpia@:
the fellow in the video didnt look nigerian.

Are you absolutely sure?

Alfa Seltzer: Please divide this country now! I am tired of telling people I am a Nigerian. Biafra is my country.

I'm quite sure that some other Nigerians said exactly the same thing when an ibo man beheaded his wife in the states.

shy-mmex:
The 2010 riot was a different thing, though. You can't fault them for rioting, however what was problematic was their excesses. And 2010 riot wasn't just a black thing - Asians and whites got involved as well.

It's a generational thing in black communities and I don't think the problem falls solely on the parents. Everyone has to play a role; including the government.

I'm really not convinced about the government angle to your argument at all. It sorta smacks of laziness and an easy escape to absolve self of wrong doing and short comings. The government has never and should never be responsible for raising children. They are ment to facilitate an environment to foster growth most importantly education and the British government can definitely not be accused of not providing that. A lot of Nigerian once they arrive in the UK seem to lose all their senses and forget all about the morals instilled in them back home. Some of them cannot believe their luck at stricking gold in the UK where they do not have to pay for health care and can sit at home whilst doing nothing yet getting paid and are able to substitute what they get from the government with either an early morning job or some are so lazy that they engage in criminal activitie such as credit card fraud and you name it. Rather, what I would blame the UK state for is the creating an enabling environment for laziness through the welfare system. I strongly think the welfare system should be scrapped as clearly migrants are grossly abusing the system. But who am I to tell the British government to deprive its own indigenous people of welfare because my own people are abusing it, eh?

It is sad that the same Yoruba families that could sleep in churches every friday for Night vigil and now mosques are responsible for raising these devils. Something is grossly wrong in the Nigerian community in the Uk and they really ought to regroup and start doing some serious soul searching. Drop all that pretentious nonsense before they are stifled out of the UK. Believe me, it would happen. They are begining to constitute nuisance and this is only but the begining, I tell ya!

cotton101: this event was so not needed right now - race relations in the UK are simmering at breaking point and i fear events like this one will tip some angry and frustrated onyibo people over the edge.

I suspect revenge attacks very soon, and the usual suspects calling into radio stations saying its cos of all these immigrants.

I hope and pray that these guys are not nigerian before they try and link this to boko haram - trust me lazy journalists will do it to the dumbed down british public.

Anyway condolences to the victims family

It's written in bold.

i'll be surprised if that devil holding the machete in bloodied hands was not Nigerian of Yoruba descent.

Were alaso ni mimiko yi o.

babyosisi: Try squeezing water from a rock
Even the Ombatse tribe in all their prowess couldn't attempt such a fit

You mean, feat?

Jarus: I was on that seat for two and half years and this is the truth:

1, Tribalism may never be stopped, whether by soft or hard approach. That is the bitter truth. I set it out as an agenda in 2010 when I was made a Mod, but I later came to the realization it may never be stopped. After all, pick a Nigerian newspaper on a typical day and read the headlines: "North declares war on GEJ", "Dokubo threatens to make Nigeria ungovernable is his Ijaw kinsman is not re-elected", "Yorubas present agenda" etc. I'm not saying mods should not try (in fact, it is their primary duty to make this place hell for tribal warriors), but totally eradicating it is impossible. That was my lesson.

2, A mod, like any leader, can never be totally popular.

3, I don't think a mod will deliberately tilt the forum in favour of any interest. I honestly don't think so. But people will always read sectional meanings to whatever he does. When I was on the seat, Desola was accusing me of being anti-Yoruba, the Igbos were accusing me of frolicking with Yorubas and protecting their interest. All these are lies, but they never worried me, because the contradiction in the accusations is enough vindication. A good mod, having satisfied himself that he is doing his job fairly, should not bother about those kinds of accusations. They are part of the job.

Excuse me Jarus, come again?

babyosisi: No gibberish please
This is an intellectual forum

In that case what da heck are you doing here?

You must have missed your way to the brothel.

eggheaders: tho ikenna is not always on the same page with me most times.but I think it is an insult for the admin to just throw somebody in the mode of sexkillz at us.firstly he knowns next to nothing about the going-ons here coupled with is zero knowledge of history and politics.it is hightime the admin stop this virus from affecting this noble section.#sexkillzmustgo.

We need to start protesting against the imposition of moderators! We wanna have a hand in appointing them.

Let all denounce this appointment and demand an election.

They can nominate while we elect. And we must agree to their nominations too.

Seun must start listening to us. We make his site, so lets demand some respect!

mukina2: Thanks

I think sexkillz will do a good job, he has proved a lot of people wrong in moderating romance.

Why are you and Seun so fearful of us electing a mod? Why? Why must you guys act autocratically? Of course we are aware that Seun owns this site but that does not make him competent to choose a mod.

Really, you guys ought to try getting it right - really!

Sexkillz though sounds like an ok dude is definitely not qualified to moderate this section. Not in the slightest!

Chris†Kid:
ok afam and oamj4 should just resign especially oamj4 thr bigot. The way Seun shops for moderators from car talk section to romance and sexuality section show the gross incompetence of the two and their inabiity to moderate this section.


@sexkillz since you have been given the mandate to moderate this section and fight tribal bigotry can you make a list of dos and donts?
Maybe you mods (the competent ones) should deliberate amongst yourselves and come up with words marked as tribal slurs.
Something afam (another failure of a mod) tried to do but failed woefully!
For example is the use of words like Ibo, y.ibo ebo, awusa ewusa, yarib.a, yeri.ba ye.ribu yoro.ba yeribue etc allowed or not?
There has to be rules in place that first would be broken before you go into reckless banning of forumites!
Thats all!!!

Which mandate? Where did he steal it from?

The only mod with a mandate here is oam4j, you Berra go figure.