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I am voting Auba. He is way ahead.

Let them pay that poor dude if they want me to point them to a $2B buried under the foundation of a mansion in banana island.

Seun:
The envelope is used to encourage people to give higher amounts. Putting 20 naira in an envelope just doesn't feel right. It demands more.

The dancing-to-the-front-of-the-pastor culture, which is a different thing, is meant to prevent people from skipping any of the offerings.

Using clever tricks to raise more money for the church is justified in the minds of the people involved because the money is "for God".

Maybe in some churches. In the church I worship, Winners, the pastor will even go as far as saying "you can keep your offering to yourselves and see whether God's work will stop or not".
I don't see how putting money in envelope will make people to want to put in more. To me it makes me put in just what I intended freely. I wonder where you guys get these concept from.

deomelo:
No time allocation for hateful, bitter, sad and lying village ipobs today, try next time.

Mumù

deomelo:
This useless governor and his micky mouse projects sha.


This is what Lagosians are getting for N830 billion budget?


This is definitely the lousiest governor in the history of Lagos state.

Lousiest?
What of the one who used to be a commissioner in Lagos?

TrumpDonald2:
You are very funny. Tell your bosses to resign their job and not work. Let's see how they keep getting it back.

Why should they resign? God says He Will bless the work of our hands and we should avoid idleness.

lonelydora:

WE NEED A CREED ON CHRISTIAN THREADS HERE JUST LIKE THE MUSLIMS HAVE.

I hope Seun sees this.

Seun:
A man came unto Jesus and asked him if it was okay to submit empty envelopes to a prosperity church that makes people drop offerings openly in order to embarrass those who have nothing to give. "What is written on the envelope?" asked Jesus. "The name of the prosperity church", answered the man. Jesus said, "give to the prosperity church what belongs to the prosperity church". And the people were amazed.

Seun NaYouCrackJokeLikeThis? I am dissapointed.
My understanding of the envelope offering culture is that it is there to prevent people from the pressure of on-lookers who will see what the next man is giving. I got this from Bishop Oyedepo's mouth directly.

mapet:
1. Foolish man. When you get intellectually weak , you come up with dumb accusations. You cannot competently defend yourself anymore you want people to help you.........

What do you mean by "get intellectually weak". You mean your own intellectual prowress fluctuates? I hope it isn't connect to PHCN supply or depending on any seasonal food? Thy Lord is your strength.

mapet:
1. Foolish man. When you get intellectually weak, you come up with dumb accusations. You cannot competently defend yourself anymore you want people to help you.........

2. Our proven reserves will last us decades...... really? and after that what next? build more refineries?
I think you should find yourself some toys

''Wise man'', aren't you the GooGle profesor anymore ? GooGle what we were doing before crude was discovered or what nations with no crude are doing or even what we should be doing if no new oil wells are ever discovered in Nigeria.
Pick up one of your internet-connected toys and go to work.

mapet:
1. Apart from me, every other person has taken you to the cleaners. These people engage in discourse with you logically, they also back it up with evidence. They have demonstrated a commitment to diligent study and quest for knowlege.....and it shows in the quality of their submissions. Can that be said of you? Nope. You have no intellectual content, you just throw mumbo-jumbo stuffs around, argue blindly and when found out you resort to pettiness.

It is now about every other person. Not surprised cos it is your character to spam threads with irrelevant facts through various user accounts. I leave that to those viewing the thread to decide who is being taken to the cleaners.

mapet:
2. . With your "Kaduna-Teacher" English, you cannot rationalize that refineries can only continue to exist when you sustain your oil reserves.

3. Spite you? Don't get over yourself, you've already given yourself away as simply a noise maker.....I can only encourage you to continue at what you do best........at least NL needs comic reliefs like you sometimes

Let's assume that my English was truly 'Kaduna-Teacher' standard and yours was of Oxfords standard, what's the use of a good English with no real substance to communicate ?
@the bold, you have started displaying signs of your mental weakness again by replying to figments of your own imagination. If not how can you in all your seemingly infinite knowledge not know that a refinery takes few years to be built but our proven oil reserve can still last us decades.
I leave the viewers to judge who the clown and retard is between the two of us. That's is if you don't activate your various monikers like DE0MEL0 and the rest then start spaming the thread in support of "your-other-self".

realjoker:
Lwkmd, I am not mapet, take off the chaff from your eyes. FG prioritise local refining of crude oil than searching for crude oil in the hinterland basins only fifth columnist like you are the only people that believes FG prioritise search for crude oil in the hinterland basin ahead of local refining.

Any evidence to support this ? Or this is just a subtle way of you backtracking on your initial stance?

mapet:
@realjoker,

I suggest you ignore the daft thing. Once anyone takes him to the cleaners, he looks for petty and stup. I'd lines and accusations. He will hardly focus on discussions because he's empty

Who did you take to the cleaners?

If you know one or two things about focusing on discussion you should have stuck to the simple question the thread raised instead of trying to google things that are beyond your reasoning capacity on-the-fly.

So in your opinion it is better the government prospects for oil and lost the chance to employ an estimated 460,000 Nigerians. Your brain ought to have told you that those state owned oil companies you presented as being responsible for crude discovery have good refining arrangement in place for their output. In Nigeria we are battling unemployment but some people think it is cool to prioritize the discovery of crude that may not even exist above refining of that which we already have in excess and will employ hundreds of thousands.

The fact that you will prefer to try and play the devil's advocate just to spite me shows the stuff you are made of. Keep googling stuff on-the-fly and forming sophisticated babe. More grease to your elbow.

cosmatika:
Ogundipe, Quadri, Abdullahi, Ishola, SirDick abi sodiq, Raiwan; these names have two things in common with sarrki, the NL resident zomB. Who can guess wat dey are?

YMs.

Gourdoinc:
exactly. you are brilliant. the exact thing the OP did is what I did. he took a stance, I did same. yet you say I should live and let live. because u expressed my own opinion, or in ya words I took a stance?

No. OP took a stance and you tagged him a sheeple. Judging a person isn't same as taking a stance. When your opinion starts making you tag people it is as good as a judgement.

Gourdoinc:
exactly. like the OP and yasef. shoving ur tithing opinions down the throat of the masses via messages of falsehood .
yimu

How did OP shove his opinion down peoples throat ? By taking a stance ?

Gourdoinc:
lamentations of a sheeple. please pay oh. we won't pay. we are in the inquisitive age. knowledge is now freely available to everyone and not a selected few. we are now asking questions, literacy level has increased and we have come to see that tithing is fraudulent.

it's the main means pastorpreneurs get consistent cash flow. no wonder they fighting the movement.

" free the sheeple"

The only sheeple are the ones who can't respect the opinion of others.

realjoker:
Lwkmd, I am not mapet, take off the chaff from your eyes. FG prioritise local refining of crude oil than searching for crude oil in the hinterland basins only fifth columnist like you are the only people that believes FG prioritise search for crude oil in the hinterland basin ahead of local refining.

The more you try the more you expose yourself

mapet:
If you are going to make an argument, why not commit to making arguments that don't beggar logic? You want to show you're knowledgeable in Oil business but you make submissions that are so ridiculous. How can you argue that "..... then the govt equally has no business prospecting for oil via a state owned entity(NNPC)" . You can do yourself a lot of good, Google NNPC, know how it's set up before making statements that gives you away.

You have been reading stuffs at random you claim, yet you demonstrate shallow understanding of how oil exploration in Nigeria works. You keep conjuring stuffs...... "one oil magnate brainstorms and gambles"...... and that is how oil exploration is done to you?

Mr Google. I hail oh.

mapet:
Lay of your crude idi.ocy. How is it that when people expose your shallowness, you accuse them of being Mapet? is Mapet hunting you in your dreams?

In the last half a century, oil exploration and licensing business model has changed more than 3x globally, yet you refer to Shell-olobiri, which you even got muddled up, as the business model currently in operation today?

It will be more honorable to simply admit that you are not knowledgeable in this area, that foolish arguments

That's what many user aacount on Nairaland does. How come I don't hop from one account to another or what's chasing you from one account to another ? . . . l o l

mapet:
If you are going to make an argument, why not commit to making arguments that don't beggar logic? You want to show you're knowledgeable in Oil business but you make submissions that are so ridiculous. How can you argue that "..... then the govt equally has no business prospecting for oil via a state owned entity(NNPC)" . You can do yourself a lot of good, Google NNPC, know how it's set up before making statements that gives you away.

You have been reading stuffs at random you claim, yet you demonstrate shallow understanding of how oil exploration in Nigeria works. You keep conjuring stuffs...... "one oil magnate brainstorms and gambles"...... and that is how oil exploration is done to you?

I looked and looked at this comment to see where I can reply anything concrete and I found none.
I assume you have no strong argument justifying why govt should prioritize oil discovery above refining.
Aside oil we have other resource. Our problem has always been utilizing the resource locally. If you have something sensible to say, the floor is wide open.

Special mumus

modelmike7:
MY PRESIDENT IS WORKING!

Really. Was same for GEJ ?
You sign a paper and bam President is working.

sarrki:
Well deserved

All the appointment should be shifted towards the omoluabis

What happened to the Fulanis.

dominique:
So how was the crusade funded?

With your pocket money off course

realjoker:
national government oil owned companies According to the World Bank accounted for 75% global oil production and controlled 90% of proven oil reserves in 2010 the likes of Petrobras, ENI (established by law decree), Saudi Aramco, Rosneft, Abu Dhabi National Oil Company, National Iranian Oil Company, China National Petroleum Corporation, Kuwait Petroleum Corporation, Petroleos de Venezuela, Emirates National Oil Company, Abu Dhabi National Oil Company, Iranian Offshore Oil Company, National Iranian Oil Company, Oil India, Sinochem, Sinopec, PetroChina (CNPC), CNOOC, Petróleos Mexicans and many more are all state owned oil companies that are into exploration, development and production, refining and processing, distribution and retailing of crude oil, gas and its derivatives.

Same pattern. You churned out cool stats and fact but seem you forgot to include the fact that showed what percentage of those output were discovered by Govt vs Private. Also the stats showing who refined what.
Nice try. Keep it up.

realjoker:
The underlined is meant for this Claiming that you hardly hear about government prospecting for oil tells how ill inform you are about Nigeria oil industry, the only real procurement contractual part of the Kachhikwu, Baru outburst are exploratory projects between NNPC and its JVs to increase Nigeria crude oil reserves by 2.66 billion barrels and gas reserves by 4083bcf project falcon and project santolina at the cost of 1.87 billion dollars

I hope you are not mapet hiding under new handle to go the usual route.
If you know anything about what you typed trash about you would have observed that the first commercial oil well discovery in Nigeria was done by private individual, Shell.
The trend remains the same all over the world.
If you have nothing constructive and sensible to say no need going petty.

@realjoker

discovery of crude oil is not limited to or birthright of ND or Southern Nigeria, it is a global commodity that can be found in every part of the world be it swampy, dry, arid, desert or rocky part of the world sea inclusive, it tooks Ghana decades to discover crude oil in a very large quantity so is Chad and Niger, with the advent

Crude oil discovery wasn't handle by NNPC for a start in the south. Let the govt hands off oil discovery for privates hands who can make fairer jugdment without political influence.

realjoker:
NNPC has Exploration and Production Directorate which is charged to explore and monitor production and Nigerian Petroleum Development Company (NPDC) Ltd a fully-owned subsidiary of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) which engaged in Oil & Gas Exploration and Production activities currently owns and operates many oil blocks. The search of crude oil in the interland basin might be politically motivated but no one can rule out its economical benefits, discovery of crude oil is not a ND or Southern Nigeria commodity it can be found in every part of the world be it swampy, dry, arid or rocky part of the world, it tooks Ghana decades to discover crude oil in a large quantity so is Chad and Niger.

@underlined, what for?
@bold, the economic benefits of oil refining are glaring enough and is being lost everyday we ignore it. The prospecting entity from what I know is always privates individuals. Why do you think PIB that's is suppose to propel private refineries is lanquishing with Aso Rock akara sellers and NNPC a state owned company is handling oil discovery if not politics?
I still don't see enough reason for the govt not to go into large scale refining if it can prospect for oil and even overall redundant refineries.

@Mapet, no need getting unncessarily emotional.
In your points I honestly think you involved too many needless facts that don't apply to Nigeria.

If you argue that govt has no business building and running refineries then the govt equally has no business prospecting for oil via a state owned entity(NNPC). In fact it will be far more sensible for a private entity to prospect for oil - a gamble - than for a govt to prospect for oil.
The story of Nigerias first oil well, Oloibiri is there. Since I have been reading stuff at random I hardly hear of govt prospecting for oil. The covention is one oil magnate is always brainstorming and doing the gambling, the govt sits back, regulate, and eat the good. There may be tax window or other incentives for the discoverer of oil reserve correct me if I am wrong.

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paxonel:
God don't require best hands of buildings anymore how long are going to understand that?
Our body is already God's temple

Then report the person to God and let God handle a ''wasteful'' spender.