₦airaland Forum

Another evidence we need to restructure the damn country. So the FG should start paying 150 k police atleast N40k. That's N72b/annum of oil money, what happens when the oil dries up?

Blue3k:
I disagree there's benefits to mini grids that your over looking. First you don't suffer the power loss problem because the power is focused on the closet persons. Next we it can be put in remote areas and work well like renewable. Start grid tech is the future because it improves reliability. Yes every region could potentially generate it's own power. There's plenty of options to play with from renewables, hydro, and gas.

The big issue with prepaid meter was sourcing them. The issue with transmission he partly funding and he did allow for mini grid tech with renewables. The idea isn't half baked it seems you haven't read up with new developments in energy sector snice your still championing the old methods.

Oga, off-grid arrangement is a different concept to mini grids your OP suggested.
The issue they claimed with prepaid meter was sourcing them but their prepaid meter for sale allover the world. Who is fooling who here? They are just greedy and if Fashola can't handle them let him resign.

laudate:
Oh, how many generator salesmen and repairers are in every local govt in Nigeria? Just because they are clustered within the state capitals or cities does not mean they exist in every town, village, hamlet or street within Nigeria. Do the maths. How many rural areas have you visited in every part of Nigeria?

Pls try to stop contradicting yourself. In one breath, you claim that poor people cannot afford to pay for power supply, like you did in your last post. In another breath, you are trying to justify the preponderance of generators, by claiming there are lots of generator salesmen and repairers in rural areas, in a bid to make it seem as if most Nigerians in rural areas already have a generator, which is why such huge numbers of generator salesmen and repairers exist. Which one are we to believe? Like I asked you before "how many rural areas in Nigeria have you visited before? "

Do what silly Maths? Listen to yourself. How many rural communities are electrified? Please make sense.

Baba should give us just prepaid meter . . .

laudate:
You are even talking about Kogi. What about areas outside the capitals in places like Kwara, Osun, Taraba, Kebbi, Ebonyi etc.? Once you step outside the state capitals, and take a trip down to other local govt areas, you would be amazed at the level of poverty and lack of infrastructure that dot those places. How many of the residents in such places can afford or even use generators? The few who even do so, might rent an I-better-pass-my-neighbour genset and limit their usage to 2 or 3 times per week, for less than 4 hours per day.

People should stop using Lagos, Port-Harcourt, Abuja, Onitsha, Ibadan as a yardstick to gauge the state of affairs in every other part of Nigeria.

You really expect people who can't afford food, medication etc to pay 24/kwh for power easily. I taya 4 u.

laudate:
Let me guess, you conducted a census across the length and breadth of Nigeria, to ascertain the proportion of rich Nigerians vs poor Nigerians and to determine the exact numbers of Nigerians that can afford to own and run a generator before you arrived at this submission?

Ha ha ha . . . dumb guess.
You tell me whether all the generator salemen, gen repairers and 4 liters gallon in rural areas are part of nollywood movie. Dumb statement.
Or all the businessmen (printing press) who bypass electricity in urban areas don't have generator. Maybe you expect communities yet to be electrified to have lots of gen owners.

Achuwa1:
If Atiku can do all he is saying,then I am for Atiku 2019.
I will campaign for Atiku with the last drop of my blood if he will fulfill all he just said in this write up.

If he will . . .

What the article may not realize is that the Nigerian oil industry is technically out of the govt grip.

trillville:
You are talking about lagos, abuja, port harcourt and kaduna. What percent of people in other regions can afford to use generators to rub their businesses.

You mean in the smaller communities there are no such case. Haba. Lets be realistic bros.

omohayek:
I'm sorry, but this is pure, unalduterated nonsense. Stop confusing what you want with what is true, which is that you cannot lower the price of any good or service beyond what it costs to generate: nobody goes into business to sell at a loss. In fact, it is even worse than that: you cannot draw investment for any business which will have a return on investment less than parking the same money in US Treasury Bonds, and this is costing more and more as US interest rates continue their rise.


Because Buhari is an economic illiterate, and Emefiele is a cowardly time-server who would rather obey the nonsensical demands of Buhari than exercise the independence he is guaranteed under Nigerian law. Why else do you think Nigeria has suffered its first recession in 25 years if not for this idiotic currency policy? Claiming there's anything good about it only shows you lack understanding of basic macroeconomics.


No, the answer is because of economic illiteracy mixed with political cowardice. Have you so completely forgotten what happened when Buhari initially refused to allow any adjustment in petrol prices whatsoever? There were Venezuela-style shortages and queues everywhere, just as standard economic theory would predict.


Again, this is you simply allowing your desires to interfere with your understanding of basic business facts. What good does it do any GENCO or DISCO to provide power below cost? How exactly do you expect them to make up the difference? Do you think they are charity organizations or something? Unless you know of some wonderful new laws of business I've never heard of, the dilemma facing these companies remains the same: either they are allowed to recover their costs or they go broke, and the latter is what is currently happening.

Frankly, your line of argumentation makes no sense at all, as you would realize if you made it for any other argument. How much sense do you think it would make if I said, for example, that BMW and Mercedes should charge no more for their cars than the average Nigerian can afford? There is no such thing as a "right" to unsustainably cheap power, and this misguided entitlement mentality you share with most other Nigerians is precisely the reason why Nigeria's power sector is so dysfunctional.

You know not what you are talking. Nigerians are expert at inflating running cost and price fixing. The power system I insist is already hugely profitable. How much was govt subsidizing the power sector/lossing before privatization? Juxtapose those figures against what the private owners are claiming and see the huge fraud going on. And lastly, please and please and please stop using everyday business principle to analyse power.

trillville:
omohayek and laudate.
Both of you have properly identified the key constraints facing the development of electricity in Nigeria. production of electricity is priced in USD and sales of electricity is in naira so electricity prices are not cost effective making the industry unattractive to investors and the Nigerian populace being too poor to afford to pay current prices not to talk about the true market price for electricity.

Oga Nigerians aren't too poor. They may be too stingy? Too Lazy in understanding, but poor is far from it. Can a people who spend 4-5 times the PHCN cost to generate their own power be too poor to pay PHCN rate with even 50% increase? Never.

Blue3k:
I doubt you know what me and him are discussing either. What's wrong with her propsal to have better metering, decentralized grid and improved infrastructure? Give you critique if you have one.

Do you know what you stand to gain with a centralized grid? What we need is a centralized grid that prioritizes supply of power to states that generate them. Can every region re-electrify their communities and still generate powers even if we double our funding at this instance? Like I implied this is a paper proposal.
As for metering, you may want glance through my post about it. I support metering [prepaid]. Same thing for infrastructure. The problem is when people who barely grasp what grids are or what they are meant to achieve start talking. Fashola made empty noise about power in Lagos state cos he didn't understand the technicalities of grid. Today he is struggling with simple things like prepaid meter and transmission system. Just understand what a power grid entails and stop parading half baked proposals up and down the forum.

Blue3k:
What point are you trying to make? There's coal projects going on in multiple places. Coal currently being used in country by dangote. China still using and building coal plants at slower pace. The still projects going on aswell all over world.

I doubt you understand a what power system entails. The proposal is not as solid as it seem.

Simple solution - Let's restructure.

No more idea civil servants
No more paying of salaries with oil proceeds
No more jumbo pay for leaders
Let all MDAs adapt a unique structure so staffs can be transferred to check stealing

Buhari is media favorite . . .

This is a neat bus. I am suspecting most of them where on seat belt.

Who gave us Nigeria ?

The Family that can never be poorer than Dangote . . .

EJIMOFORCHOSEN:
Yes

I watched just the first 2 min and the last 5 min due to bandwidth. The concept is focusing on a popular need (login web view) is cool. The audio quality is good but your voice can be better. The Tutorial appear to be going to slow paced (29 minutes just too long for me).
Overall 6 out of 10.

Hard to pick one over the other globally. I think networking is more sellable in Nigeria as most SMEs can easily relate with networking people.

Did you record that yourself?

sarrki:
Self determination that is founded on hatred and bigotry is crime

What do you mean this hatred and bigotry? You are speculating mr man.

maclatunji:
Impossible, they will seek to gain more relevance. Get them out of the way first, then allow rational people restructure.

Ha ha ha . . . Did you see the thread about Tinubu supporting restructuring? Even the Tinubus of this world you suggested we wait for to get to power are supporting restructuring. What does that tell you Sir?

hahn:
In 1981 three con artists were unleashed unto Nigeria

Never to solve any major problem but to give false hope and exploit the gullible, mostly illiterate, masses thus amassing huge wealth enough to ensure they drive in luxury cars, wear the best clothes, move around with tight security while "preaching" to their gullible members to give everything they have to them while they wait for the promise of a heaven that they did not even bother to provide a picture or address of

Church business is good business

You are not following OP's instruction.

Limitless72:
So they are now using the IGBOs resources circulation in every nook and cranny of the nation as an excuse to forestall their intentions....

Word.

sarrki:
We don't have a good attorney general

Mumù. A missing man.

maclatunji:
Impossible, they will seek to gain more relevance. Get them out of the way first, then allow rational people restructure.

Wrong how? Are you telling me if oil hits $35pb for the next 5 years more states like Kebbi won't spring up faster? It will work.

@OP(fidalgo19). It depends on where you are getting the course from. Let me start with cheap internet connection.

There is MTN & Airtel N25 for 500 MegaByte midnight plan. If you get 2 sim, then depending on location(speed) you can be downloading 800 MB at N50 total a night. After exhausting N2,000 you can have as much as 30 GB of tutorial. I have that much myself.

Next is the tutorial format and source. If you are streaming video tutorial to watch live then I suggest you start downloading them. Torrent is also available and easy to use.

. . .

Also you can download offline versions of sites like W3School.com etc after grabbing them with a software like HTTrack.

Stupíd idea to discuss what you can't change at the expense of that which you can and have been tasked with changing.
He thinks they would confuse with Ghandi.

maclatunji:
Good question. There are emerging young leaders that are more strategic working towards engineering reform in governance.

We just need to get rabble-rousers out of the political space.

I strongly suggest we get the rable rousing leaders out faster with restructuring.

maclatunji:
Do you know how irritating and provocative the Nnamdi Kanu charade was?

The Southeast leaders by waiting for too long before acting are as guilty by omission of the things Nnamdi Kanu is by commission.

I hope you apply same logic to the quite northern muslims who kept mum for years when BH started bombing churches.
To me the SE leaders are not different from the northern leaders.

maclatunji:
There will always be monthly allocations but the idea is for it to become largely irrelevant as it has become to Lagos.

If for 50 years the governors didn't try to be dependent how do you think they will change suddenly? You are not being realistic. What makes you think they will just adopt the Lagos model like that?