craleonic:


Okay

Now
For you to be In these countries i listed
You should remove "job searching" from your mind

Its either you have your online business (Freelancing and all that stuff)
Or you have passive investments that can fund your lifestyle
Please please and please
No one should go there looking for jobs o!

jajeri3216:


Brah stay coded. 2 cents

Thank you for the advise

swilo:

Great stuff but NSE is easier to play with arts not science. I have made more profits practising the art of playing NSE.
Wait, buy, wait, sell, wait, wait again, leave the market, wait and buy again.

This strategy is a very interesting strategy

ValCon888:
Look at her very young face. The marriage is almost looking like child abuse.

Probably she looks younger than her actual age

TransAtlanticEx:
lol e be like say you know,me and my smallie sef dey quarrel
I give am funds,I ask am for phuck and she come dey play me,so I ask for a refund straight up.
No be say 50k too much,but we don't sow where we won't reap
Nothing dey pain these side chicks pass when them feel say them don scam you and you ask for a refund,and they know how deadly you can be so they can't try nonsense
If you be guyman here,you've gotta learn how to be half gentleman,half ghetto when it comes to dealing with sidechicks

I wonder why I find this very amusing

ojesymsym:
Knowing how these country work, I am almost sure they will be some form of maintenance or renewal fee.

Naa
It's a one off thing
Sometimes they want you to invest the money in the country for a specific time period (the money is still yours)
Sometimes they want you to buy real estate in the country (the property is still your own)
While in other instances
You dash thr govt between $50k to $100k

So it's not in all instances you "dash" the government of that country the money

craleonic:


What are the expatriation options for a Nigerian earning in that bracket?

The Caribbean
UAE
Even South Africa
Latin America too

Some "digital geeks" rotate between Dubai, Jo burg, Accra and Lagos every year
Though you have to be a single man to live this kind of life though.
I'm seriously considering the UAE own
Though its residency and not citizenship

But living like this is contingent on how much passive and diversified income one can generate per month
And how you spend money too

ultron12345:


I discussed this in this group sometime back. I think it was with dexterous abi someone like that. I was planning to get citizenship from one of the Caribbean islands until the plans got delayed by the increasing exchange rate. Like me, most of the people going for this are not doing it to relocate but for ease of travel, not having to queue here and there for visas. With such passport, one can just wake up one morning and decide to go the UK, Singapore or anywhere, all you need is to get a plane ticket. Plus, you avoid all that extra interrogation and suspicion you get at foreign airports when you hold a Nigerian passport.

We had that conversation months ago

1kinggy:


I advise you do so, of you don't have any zero commission broker already.

I actually dont

The Njgerian Market is my forte
I'm relatively new in this aspect
And I have been coming here to learn and observe
Soon, I would be taking a plunge for real
And joining you guys

Lazyyouth4u:


Go and read my comments again and show me where I defined a wealthy country by its resources. I never did. I have been using GDP, total assets, business activities in the formal and informal sector.

How can you compare DRC to Nigeria in terms of wealth? Have you ever been to DRC? A country with a GDP of USD40 bn? If you add up all the money the mining companies are making from that country, it is just a fraction of what the oil majors are making in Nigeria.

What do you know about the informal sector in the DRC? I used that example for a reason. Trust me, there is no country in Africa where you will find the kind of business activities taking place in Nigeria. Take that to the bank any day.

As I have said, it is my opinion that Nigeria is a wealthy country based on its large GDP (formal and informal), the total assets and wealth being created and the volume of business activities taking place in the country. And I respect that other people think GDP per capita is a better way of measuring wealth. At the end of the day, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Nigeria has more economic activities than DRC
That's undeniable
And like you have correctly said
Businesses have been able to spin off something wonderful from Nigeria (MTN *coughs coughs*)
BUT those guys are resource rich

DRC resources are practically stolen
The overlords and the multinational collaborators are ruining that country
Nigeria cannot get to DRC level of exploitation though
Imagine a Coltan exporting country
Not to talk of the other resources o

That's why I get worried with the growing power of bandits and militants in the country
It looks like how it started in DRC....

On a final note
Nigeria has POTENTIAL
Only if we can harness it

Feggie3:
. Yes most of them are. It's important they are detained in Xinjiang re-education camp. Good enough they are not being killed but reoriented on disadvantages of extreme islamism and terrorism.

Investigative intelligence detected they we're responsible for frequent terrorist attacks such as the Baren Township riot, 1997 Ürümqi bus bombings, protests in Ghuljia, June 2009 Shaoguan Incident, the resulting July 2009 Ürümqi riots, 2011 Hotan attack, April 2014 Ürümqi attack, May 2014 Ürümqi attack, 2014 Kunming attack and the 2015 Aksu colliery attack. Go and read ur history bro.. Funny enough they were migrants.

Most of them are?
Can you hear yourself?

ULOPVQ:
The same Nigerians who are ranting like animals are supporting the marginalization and ill-treatment of the Uighurs, now ask yourself why should you get freedom from your government?

It's very worrisome how some of these people think

Feggie3:
Yes most of them are

Thats WRONG
Uighurs are VICTIMS of being trapped in communist china
Under normal circumstances
They should not even be a part of china

I wonder why some of you erroneously and ignorantly think that being a muslim equals being a terrorist

BrokerHaruna:
Access and Uba are on their tireless journey to 6 naira. Zenith heading to 16. Fire in Katanga!

I'm not sure of that though
Especially for Zenith bank

N16 ke?

Nbotee:


Whixh birth rate is declining? Didn't U read the report on how pregnancies multiplied over the lockdown period? The north is still marrying multiple wives and breeding countless Almajiris so what exposure

True
But the south is equally guilty of multiplying babies everywhere

maishai:


My brother we Africans should find a way of appraising the grain grinders in our midst, In every organization I have been to and worked this attitude is rampant, when one looks into Europe and the developed world, they are littered with all sorts of award and recognition that all manner of workers aspire to other than money,

I'm not condoning theft and pilfering in any form but when workers aspire only for the monthly pay or money only, I want to believe this kind of thing results

If one checks out many factories and production facilities in the country, we see capacity utilization of less than 35% meanwhile same facility in Europe gives more than 85% capacity utilization, it's not really so much about the knowledge gap but that the developed world rewards individuals for productivity as opposed to in Africa where colleagues look down on those that are hard working as fools

I've never really thought about this from this angle.
This is a very good idea

ahiboilandgas:
try and visit Apapa port and see corruption walking up and down live ....more a gangster Nation...police working in collaboration with thugs to milk hauler ......Apapa to kano ....2m naira 40 ft container.....this unreal cost is transfered to the customers including the police men and touts responsible for it....

So terrible

Lazyyouth4u:


Just thought I would answer this strange question . Here you go:

Multichoice, Standard Bank, Standard Chartered Bank, Indorama, Dufil Group (Indomie), Julius Berger, Mikano (generator guys), Nestle, Unilever, Cadbury, PZ, P&G, GSK, Lafarge, PWC, KPMG, Coca Cola, 7up/Pepsi, Guinness, Maersk, Stallion Group, Shoprite, etc. Even the international airline companies can’t be left out.

These are just a few I can remember now. Did you think they were Nigerian companies?

How can you not mention MTN and Airtel when you talk about companies raking in billions from Nigeria? Yes they are in most African countries but Nigeria is their largest market. By far.

Without Nigeria, MTN and Econet (the original company granted Airtel’s license) would have still been small Zimbabwean companies. The Nigerian government gave them the opportunity to become billion dollar companies when they granted them licenses. DRC is a large market with a huge population but they can’t make money there. It is a very poor country.

What if I told you that the DRC based on your definition of rich is the richest country in Africa
They have so much resources that Nigeria can only dream of..
And the multinational companies there are making a killing (Coltan, one of the resources is in very high demand, and it's just DRC (and maybe Australia) that you cam get it in sufficient quantity)


But just like Nigeria
They have deep structural issues that EXCLUDE SO MANY from access to the goodies of their country

And to make matters worse , because of the so many riches in that land, that country is engulfed in perpetual conflict, with overlords everywhere that are very rich
Militants in nigeria do not even come close to those kingpins there

You can use any other African country as an example
Not DRC.
They are very much resource rich like Nigeria
And just like Nigeria
The multinationals there are making a killing (like billions of dollars)
And most of the population is excluded from the goodies , just like Nigeria

I'm not so sure, but I think Dangote operates in the DRC too

perfectsusanoo:

There was an error in the pasting but it has been modified
Long story short, he severed his ties with them due to allegations of the technological brand aiding the government with facial recognition apps to identify the Uighurs, which as expected, they denied.
Truly, bold steps taken by China though questionable but i'd prefer prevention to cure

Are you calling Uighurs terrorists?
What kind of thinking is this?

ultron12345:


My brother, Nigerians are the most fraudulent and wicked set of people. It's puzzles me how a people can be so religious yet so wicked.

I remember when a friend started poultry business. He was a busy person with a job so he hired a manager to run the farm. The egg production was always so low, which led to low revenue and he was unable to recover costs. He was busy complaining about how the economy is bad and how it's government fault that he's not making profits, not knowing his staff were the ones behind it.

He however noticed that on the few days he's around at the farm, the egg production will be x3 of the production when he's not around. After investigations we're carried out, it was found out that the staff were stealing the eggs and smuggling them out to go and sell for themselves. They'll come with cooler of their lunch in the morning, as their leaving in the evening, the cooler will be filled with eggs.

After finding this out, sacked some people and made new policies, all containers and items brought by staff should be kept at the entrance and not allowed into the farm area. The staff then started a new strategy. They would break the eggs and pour them into plastic bottles, throw those bottles over the fence, gather the bottles when they leave that evening and sell to bakers. The security men were even still allowing then to take in their coolers and other containers as long as they get their share of the looted.

He also had a policy that when any chicken dies, he will give it away to the staff. Before he knew it, mortality rates started increasing. On investigation, it was revealed that the staff were intentionally killing the birds so they can be allowed to take them home.

Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria.
The only reason many Nigerians haven't stolen government money is lack of opportunity. The thief who hasn't gotten an opportunity to steal thinks he is an honest man. These thieving staff will still be among those shouting government is corrupt when they're not any different. Every people deserve their leaders. Nigerians have bad leaders because Nigerians are bad people. A bad people cannot give rise to good leaders.

He eventually shut down the business as it was becoming too difficult to deal with these staff. That was how they fraudulent attitude of Nigerians kill businesses that are supposed to create jobs. And after, the thrives will be blaming government for lack of jobs.

It's so so bad

Myhelper1:
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/12/10/wealthy-nigerians-buying-citizenship-overseas

We have had this conversation here before
Many who can afford it are looking into second citizenship and residences elsewhere

It's what even me is looking into
But the hundreds of thousands of USD is big sha

However there are some not too expensive residences that are within reach for people like me
Like UAE, Canada and central/Latin America

One needs alternative route cos it seems this country is really in for a long ride

InaNla:


Yes or type NOT APPLICABLE.

Thanks
I just might open a T212 account as well

Care4:


Put your passport or BVN.

This can stand in lieu of the TIN?
Thank you

Uyi168:
My fear is mistaken identity..
Like those 4 aluu boys..

Exactly

dignity33:
I understand that many Nigerians like taking the law into their hands when thief or arm robber are caught but do you also know that many have died for wrongly accused of certain crime they do not commit. This are some of the reason you should aviod Jungle Justice.

1. Many can accuse someone wrongly out of hatred or sentiment and as a bystander you may not know the actual story of thing and before you realised what you have done the person is dead or in critical condition. It happened in 2019 somewhere in South Africa when two Nigeria was accused of kidnapping a young girl who turn out to be the daughter of one of the victims . And Nigeria with the type of hatred they have on another tribe I have no doubt that it can happen here.

2. Thiefs can turn to accuse their victim of being the thiefs and before you know it the person is dead by mob and the actual theif will find a way to escape . I have read a story of youngmen who stole from someone ran away and while the victim was shouting ole ole, they get to a corner hide and once the owner entered the corner they started beating her calling her thiefs and people gathered without letting the woman to speak and those men sneak away letter it was discovered that the woman is innocent.

3. killing a theif by mob will create more radical arms robbers than those soft robbers who can have a little empathy for their victims and it will also make the work of police more difficult during there investigation for that certain crime because the evidence is dead.

4. Jungle Justice make the killers no different from the robbers or thiefs. lastly our law enforcement ageny should try and be proactive in fighting crime because I'm sure if police are honest in there work of protecting life and property this jungle justice will be a things of the past. Add your comments.

The number one is very worrisome
So many black people are psychologically fvcked
The level of hatred for your fellow black man will not epp u

coputa:
The cost of running a company in Nigeria is ten times higher than other African countries.and in other parts of the world.
In Nigeria,you have:
1) zero infrastructure
2) insecurity
3) dishonest employees
4) bad government policies
5) corruption

Truth

sylve11:
With what i have seen so far as a traveler, SHELL ain't telling lies in this regard. Some Nigerians working in SPDC are devils. Sometimes, when leakages occur, they conduct JIV and when the JIV is out, Indigenous contractors will not agree with it most times and insisted it's Equipment Failure. whereas, some of the Nigerians working inside SHELL caused the sabotage. At a point, SPDC would make a decision to award the clean up contract to external contractors; Indigenous contractors weren't protesting but they were filling up letters to SPDC to enact the Local Content Act. Let me say this, there will never be another company that can run things better than the way SPDC are running things in Nigeria. Is it NNPC, NPDC or which indigenous company you want to talk about? (Corruption finish the aforementioned companies!) How bad can we Nigerians be bad to ourselves?

We are very bad to ourselves o

low2high:
The problem is from the federal government of Nigeria and Niger delta political leaders.

They do not care about the suffering natives of oil producing community.

The setting up of NDDC, DESOPADEC, and the rest of it has even open more avenues to corrupt officials to loot the commonwealth of the oil producing community.

If development is extended to oil producing community the community will fight tooth and nail to secure oil pipeline from vandalism even if Shell or SPDC Officials are bursting pipelines and causing spills and then use it to blackmail community of being responsible.

IT WILL TAKES US 100 OR MORE YEARS TO DEVELOP IN NIGERIA BECAUSE OF THE GREED FOR QUICK WEALTH.

We are just too hungry for illicit wealth.

I have to agree with you

9icest:
Is it just Shell workers? What about the NNPC
what about FERMA, what about an arm of PHCN that was brought Otedola an oil and diesel trader? Or by CBN that works with Fulani parallel marketers to destroy the naira for kick backs and settlements. This is how it works, the CBN is about to supply the bureau de exchange $60,000,000 and the naira is currently at 450, but they will instead create artificial scarcity for weeks and destroy the currency and sell that amount for 510 or more.
The Nigerian law enforcement and EFCC are the mostly useless entities in the universe. The real economic crimes passes under their noses daily and they don’t even see it but are mainly interested in Emeka and Tayo collecting $100 which doesn’t even any way affect the US economy. Rubbish and useless country filled with maggot brained leaders

You said it all

afroxyz:


Lets keep our fingers cross and see what the stock holds

I doubt if that $3 is the actual valuation though

To be very honest
The word or the song does not offend me one bit