₦airaland Forum

thedarkside:
5million urhobos against 50million igbos..

come and get some...

stay the fvck away from the delta..

motherfs....



AREA!!!!!!!......

Show me a moroooon.

It's only a moroon that can be drowning, yet refuses an instrument to bring him back to land because the instrument is being operated by his assumed foe.

Urhobo is more populated than many countries in the UN. Same is Ibibio, Itshekiri, Efik, Ogoni, etc groups in the southsouth.

The brilliant ones in these southsouth groups understand that it's easiest for their groups to form their new country from Biafra. The Ijaw of more than 15 million people, easy for the Ijaw to complete what Adaka Borro started for Nigerdelta Republic from Biafra.
Mooorons from the southsouth continue to bleat anti-Biafra messages.

thedarkside:
were are the biafran interblablas..??

weaklings...

you can never win against urhobos...

in nothing...

quarreling is our hobby..

we do it with a passion...

Continue to bleat out unsubstantiated statements from your megaphone.

An average intelligent Urhobo fella or an average brilliant person from the southsouth knows how best to be freed from dysfunctional Talibanized Nigeria. Biafra is the first and easiest gateway out.

thedarkside:
referendum my foot..

stick it up your assses...

Referendum your foot.

Why then do you tell us who and who subscribes to Biafra movement? How did you get the story that non-Igbos in the southsouth won't subscribe to Biafra? From your kitchen.

thedarkside:
sharap...

i got banned many times for confronting you people..

and ofcourse pissing off white-people...
my prime hobby..



kiiiii... ..

You take pride in pissing off white people.

Abeg commot for road. A racist is a most foolish person, a person who brags in public, as you do, for being a racist is WORSE than a FOOLISH PERSON. Little wonder why you and your fellow racists don't tolerate Biafrans seeking for a way to detach themselves from you and your failed Nigeria.

thedarkside:
you people dont get it..

you people abroad think we nigerians at home are primitive...

you write too much..
no nigerian has your time...

The level of ignorance of most anti-Biafra campaigners is outstanding.
The modern State of Israel came to reality through campaign by Jewish people living outside today's Israel.

Eritrea came to be mostly from the campaign of Diaspora Eritreana; same for East Timor.

Biafrans living in Nigeria even had hearts of steel for marching for Biafra in Nigeria occupied by Janjaweeed soldiers hiding under Nigeria armed forces. Time was a few years ago when you challenged Biafrans to march in Nigeria. They did and Janhaweeeeds did their worse.

Time is running in favour of Biafra. Nigeria is being driven faster into the abyss than thought before. .
Have you ever heard of the word Referendum used by civilized people to address issues like Biafra? Continue to live in a country that belongs to the stone age where peoples wish are not asked to be decided through votes.

thedarkside:
are you stvpid or just wilfuly dense??



hoooops..

i tut i will get banned for that..

How can you be banned while you are fighting against Biafra on NL, nursing EVIL against the Igbo?

People who wrongly believe that crude oil is all there is for a country to survive can't ban you for playing against the rules.

But the earliest these anti-Biafra people looked beyond the nose and see that the most rich countries in the world today have no crude oil, the better for all in this contraption called Nigeria.

thedarkside:
they dont get it that the europeans wiped out all other ethnic white-groups in europe..

do we realy want to go that way too??..

this,they must ask themselves...

Any reasonable non-Igbo from the southsouth understands that without Igbo in Nigeria, people of the south south shall worth less than a toilet paper before the rest of Nigeria.

Your mind set is full of filth. Purge yourself of Jihadists inclinations.
Clueless Dumbo is the name they reserved for who?

thedarkside:
they dont get it that the europeans wiped out all other ethnic white-groups in europe..

do we realy want to go that way too??..

this,they must ask themselves...

Loool "Europeans wiped out all other ethnic white-groups in europe." Whose History do you read? The History prepared for you by your fellow Mullahs?

This NL don suffer too much.

You imagine stupid impossible things.

laudate:
Guy, I accept my country the way it is, flaws warts and all. Why does that upset you so much??

And show me where I have ever "questioned the rights of others who reject such a country", to use your own words? Must you lie to get your points across??

If you want Biafra, no problem. My only issue is that do not drag those who do not want to be part of it along with you. Do not carve their ancestral homelands into your map. Do not insult, scorn or belittle them for not agreeing to be part of your country. Is that too much to ask? Na wah, o!!

Speaking on behalf of yourself, not even on behalf of your family members, abi?

Why would you not accept Nigeria warts and corn when you believe that 13% from derivation shall last forever? Guy look beyond the nose and park well. Has anyone ever come to you to solicit that whatever is your part of Nigeria to join Biafra? No should be answer.
Ever heard of Beira Corridor?

laudate:
_(yawn) Okay, we have heard. Thank you for the dissertation on Tribalism. Let us hope your brothers get the message & amend their ways.

...while you accept a country whose political structure and constitution were prepared and imposed upon you by northern Nigeria to keep you crying for pittance and crumbs from the tables of those who created the political structure and constitution to suit themselves.

... please do not question the rights of others who reject such a country. Stop fighting their decision to leave you and your country.

Or have you ever seen a multi-ethnic country in modern times where one group prepared the country's political structure and constitution and imposed upon other groups, except Nigeria?

laudate:
Hold brake for there. Anyone who goes through your posts, will see the tribalism oozing from your words, and you actually have the nerve to call another person a tribalist? Have you no shame?? Na you be Ogbuefi Tribalism 1 of NL. Can't you remember when you were dashed that title? I really don't understand how people like you can accuse others of what they themselves are most guilty of. Abeg, swerve!

Tribalism was injected into Nigerians when the northern group used its military dictators to proliferate undue twenty new federal units and hundreds of local government councils in the north through unjust use of land mass as criterion.
The political structure of 36 states and Abuja favours only northern politicians and their territory as they draw undue political over-representation from the states to dictate the political and development pace for Nigerians.

Tribalism was injected into Nigerians when soldiers from one northern region supervised a constitution for diverse groups in Nigeria to favour only northern Nigeria. We cannot change the rigged political structure and governance system and constitution again in a democracy because northern Nigeria which is favoured by both the constitution and political structure is overpopulating the National Assembly.

So what some people call tribalism by easterners are angry reactions to the jinxed and dysfunctional political structure and governance system and constitution of Nigeria.

thedarkside:
what the hell is that..??

thunda fire english...

You don't understand what bleating means.
And you are arguing against Biafra. Ima chaghi ihe. You have limited knowledge..

Continue with your bleating-- the angry crying noise made by goats, sheep..
Your one indivisible country .....Your folks are fast dividing Nigeria through religious extremism.

thedarkside:
were una dey?..

scatterrrrrrrrr!..

you mambo jambos..

stay the fvck away from the delta...
we dont care how many igbos are in the delta..

the delta is not biafra..
mind your business..

we know most of the militants are igbo origin..
you can not fool us!!..

Chief Extremist Imam of Auchi Mosque in Nigerdelta. Bleating is part of your style. Wonder who wants you to join Biafra.

thedarkside:
the delta shall not be ridicouled by you guys,,

we are stronger than you..! ..

all hail naija...

hail,haiiil,haiiiiiiillllll..!!!...

WHO WANTS YOUR ONE NIGERIA UNDERGOING TALIBANIZATION?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C13CCQ9JMjs

@inibehe benneth,
darkside and other anti-Biafra fellas from south,
I just watched this video for the first time.

This Edo man truly understands dysfunctional Nigeria and what is propping up the agitation for Biafra.
His feelings about Nigeria represents the feelings of the well-informed people in the southsouth, not Igbophobic and sponsored people who parade opinion against Biafra, not the opinions of those in the south who feed fat from the inadequacies of one Nigeria and tell you that Biafra is a thing of the Igbo. Every brilliant fella in the old eastern region who looks beyond the nose sees that Biafra is an avenue to free the peoples of old eastern and Midwestern regions from the clutches of dysfunctional Nigeria.
The southsouth and southeast can easily be free through Biafra from Nigeria, after which if any group in Biafra wants independence from Biafra, it is easy as ABC to get that through a referendum. No war.

thedarkside:
igbo women should keep out of this...
this is a war of mental orientations...

no time for women wrappers-things...

most of your men are abroad licking white-punas anyways..

You ask women to steer clear of national discourse. Confirms yourself once again to be Taliban-Boko Haram like.

What do you think stirs up more the agitation for Biafra if not the Taliban-Boko Haram folks that act like you in Nigeria, and who seek for one Nigeria at all costs for millions more to forcefully convert to their beliefs?

thedarkside:
biafra popular...?

i laugh in sambisa!...

be happy we contained boko haram in the north..

or else you would be reading the koran by now by force!

You have contained Boko Haram in the north?

But almost on a daily basis, stories of dead soldiers-victims of Boko Haram attacks fill the pages of the news.
Are you sure you are not a northern Nigeria Muslim extremist? Take leave please.

thedarkside:
i didnt even read the ol thing..

no time..

time is precious...

In other words, what drives your anti-Biafra campaign is Igbophobia, not that you have anything to lose from Biafra freeing you and your people from the shackles of one Nigeria?

Ol' guy, grow up, Igbo no de eat human flesh. Forget about those anti:Igbo messages they pumped into your and your progenitors' brains early during the Nigeria civil war.
Igbo and others in the old eastern and Midwest Regions share same value systems.

For example, if Igbo or Urhobo man says "Jesus is Evil", on a crowded Warri or Aba streets respectively, the worst the Igbo or Urhobo person will get is some people calling him foolish person.

Many of you erroneously believe that the Igbo crow for Biafra in order to control oil from the Niger delta. Foolish belief.

thedarkside:
wait a minute..are you trying to make the northerners to your allies now??its not deltans no more??..

walahi,una dey craze...

You can't even understand what you read, and you tell yourself that you are informed. Sorry.

mathy001:
Na now day break for you abi.

The fight never reach you.

You wan wake am again?

Why are you calling Urhobo in your post?.



Bigot!


And no, WE DONT WANT BIAFRA. NOT NOW, NOT EVER!

If we want to leave Nigeria, we can decide for ourselves, by ourselves, and we will never consider BIAFRA AS AN OPTION.



SO STOP THIS BECAUSE I'M STILL READY FOR THIS WAR TO GO ON AD INFINITUM.

Stop being insulting.
Biafra is for far-seeing people in the old eastern and Midwest Regions who want to be part of Biafra; not for anyone or groups that cannot look beyond the nose to notice that ever-dysfunctional Nigeria is going no where to uplift the humanity forced to one Nigeria by foreign interests.

How many northern Nigerians have you ever seen online arguing against Biafra? Rare. Because most parts of Northern Nigeria have drawn up a new country from Nigeria to be governed through Islamic Sharia Criminal laws, but still stick to Nigeria because of economic reasons, and for reasons of expanding their religious faith to the rest of Nigeria through government instruments and by coercion.

Northerners laugh at Neanderthals and those labelled clueless, Dumbos and Ogogoro drinkers in the former eastern and Midwest Regions who argue against Biafra on behalf of the north.

Northerners don't engage in your arguments against Biafra because they understand that the more the south is divided, the easier it gets for the north to penetrate the south to sustain the existing skewed political structure created by northern soldiers and imposed upon Nigeria under a worsening unitary government system that promotes indolent citizenry, channels wealth from the oil-producing areas to the north to develop many modern cities emanating from creating undue large number of states and hundreds of local government councils in the old one northern region.
Worse, Jihadists violence from northern Nigeria and practice of sharia criminal laws in most parts of Northern Nigeria have necessitated the exodus of southerners from the north.

Ignorance is a bliss for some people from the old eastern and Midwest Regions arguing against Biafra. Throughout History, Igbos have not attempted to impose their will or even made war against any groups in the old eastern and Midwest Regions. Those from the two old regions of east and Midwest who do division between groups in the region, and try to commit suicide over Biafra agitation are the most uninformed people from these old two regions; those few politically-connected who benefit financially from the rot in Nigeria, as well as the few sponsored by their oppressors to do division in the old eastern and Midwest Regions - these are the ones bleating like goats against Biafra.

Continue the bleating and feel satisfied. But you remove no hair from the millions of people more informed than you anti-Biafra people. Prayers for you to see Biafra realized, then you can join remaining Nigeria for a new country without Biafra.

thedarkside:
look at you..
you are abroad,shouting nigeria is dying day and night..

No. Nigeria is developing, it's the most peaceful place in West Africa, it has no Jihadists, it has no Avengers, Nigeria people are not hungry, they are technology freaks, electricity and pipeborne water, the two most basic necessities which government provides to command loyalty of the people are 24/7 in Nigeria. You are happy in Nigeria, you don't care about how others feel. Kudos.
Biafra secessionist groups are Nigeria's only problem. Are you satisfied?

mathy001:
Na now day break for you abi.

The fight never reach you.

You wan wake am again?

Why are you calling Urhobo in your post?.



Bigot!


And no, WE DONT WANT BIAFRA. NOT NOW, NOT EVER!

If we want to leave Nigeria, we can decide for ourselves, by ourselves, and we will never consider BIAFRA AS AN OPTION.



SO STOP THIS BECAUSE I'M STILL READY FOR THIS WAR TO GO ON AD INFINITUM.

Please spare me of your insensitivity. It's not out of bound to mention the name Urhobo.
Methinks in 1967, Urhobo and Itshekiri and whatever in today's Delta state outside the Igbos of old Midwestern region were never included in Biafra.

The guy who brought this thread didn't know who and who were in Biafra but included Urhobo and Itshekiri as part of new Biafra. So you are dissipating energy for nothing.

It's Biafra of the willing, not Biafra where groups in the southsouth can be forced to join Biafra.
Nigeria worsens day after day, through economic hardship and, worse, Islamic militancy.

More than anything else that drives the movement for Biafra is Islamic militancy and expansionism.
Igbos aren't not the only targets or victims.

All these southern people who are anti-Biafra are all targets.
Northern Nigeria practices political Islam that seeks to annex and colonize the south of Nigeria and impose Islam on all.

But be they Efik, Urhobo, Ijaw, Itshekiri, Ibibio, etc in the south south that resists Biafra, they are all targets of, and have been victims of quasi Jihadists in form of the many pre-independence massacres of easterners in northern Nigeria, the 1966 pogroms in northern Nigeria, Boko Haram or cattle herds men - all attempts to spread the type of Northern Nigeria's political Islam.

Religion is opium for those who embraced it. So long as oil flows in the Nigerdelta, desert encroachment to the north constant, and the existing skewed political structure of Nigeria persists under this quasi unitary government system, there's no stopping to Jihadists storming the south of Nigeria at will. That brings economic depression and violence, both of which are catalysts to disintegration of Nigeria.

Does one need to tell the Dumbo that there's pandemonium in the market place?
If the disintegration of Nigeria is violent, does any Igbo need to beg any group in the south south to join Igbo in one country to defend the peoples and territories of the Igbo and the south south?

If the Southsouth groups want to join rest of Nigeria without Biafra and obviously be scorched and Jihadized, it's their own choice. Let them be.
Not even the people of the Southwest can tolerate the political Islam of Northern Nigeria.
Therefore, those clamouring for Biafra are not on the wrong path. I know not much about IPOB or MASSOB, or .... but I know that Nigeria can't last.

Died and lost for nothing. Died and lost trying to keep an impossible country one

Did they not know that Boko Haram is fighting for a country to be governed through Islamic Sharia Criminal laws, and that twelve northern Nigeria states have adopted Islamic Sharia Criminal laws?

ndoeyopbennet:
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I've written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igboid groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I've been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I've also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.

When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I'm not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.

I won't waste time so I'll just proceed to list the issues I want to raise as well as state my arguments. Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed. Please let's set a good precedence from hereon.

1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other's excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?

2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won't be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don't expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won't go.

3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
[img]http://4.bp..com/-REk3IMlg9oQ/VlQcxNkh6II/AAAAAAAAMfQ/e0gelrqN7vU/s1600/biafra.jpg[/img]

If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I've seen comments such as "if you don't like it, go and stay in Sokoto", "all land in the South is Biafraland", etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn't Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won't get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can't deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.

7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the "heroes" of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his "oil" to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.

9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people's thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?


Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won't pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals. I hold no grudge towards anyone or any group.




- Inibehe Bennet (Akwa Ibom State Indigene).

You call yourself an intellectual in your last paragraph.


But there's no intellectual attribute to some one who has since 1960 travelled more than 700 kilometres to get to his country's political capital, but questions or rejects a proposed country that shall bring his country's political capital to about 100 kilometres from his home.

There's no intellectual attribute to some one who has been begging for resource control from his huge, diverse and largely dysfunctional country, but questions a proposed country that shall bring resource control to his door steps. In modern times, the state rarely hides under sovereignty to make a few persons forming a central government impound resources in a particular area of the country.

There is no attribute of intellectual to someone who lives in a country where his native language is overshadowed by more than fifty other native languages, but the person questions a proposal that shall make his native language become more recognised and less over-shadowed by fifty other native languages.

What is the intellectual attribute to a person living in a country where Islamic militants have frequently destroyed lives and property, but the person questions a proposal where there shall not be any possible means for Islamic militants to rise?


Today you travel about 700 kilometres above your immediate neighbours, the south east, to Abuja to beg for oil blocks and solutions to environmental degradation in the oil producing areas, the same way you travelled above your eastern neighbours in 1967 to about 900 kilometres to Kaduna to beg to be cut off from Biafra, an action which made Biafra fail and two million lives lost.
Whereas, if you had keyed to Biafra, and Biafra succeeded, you would travel less than 100 kilometres to negotiate for what you want for your area, and you stand 90% more chances to get whatever you want for your area after traveling the about 100 kilometres.
So what is the intellectual attribute to your person?

You write your diatribe against Biafra. Your only consolation is that you are demonstrating your phobia for the Igbo. That makes you see yourself as an intellectual, while you are completely hollow, without any attribute of an intellectual.

Inwardly, you are ridiculed by rest of Nigeria outside the old eastern region who thronged this your vomit here to give you kudos. Because they know that if intellectually hollow people still dominate the non-Igbo speaking southsouth, and they refuse Biafra, that means the enhancement and prolongation of the exploitation of the Nigerdelta resources to build modern development infrastructures, for example, the $1.09 billion standard gauge railway lines outside the Nigerdelta, while you intellectual of the Nigerdelta still travel on rickety canoes and worse road networks.

For calling yourself an intellectual now over your stand on Biafra, and your progenitors refusal of Biafra in 1967, Biafra which by now, should have made the Southsouth approach Dubai's level of development, those who hail you here in the open call you Clueless, Dumbo, 'Ogogoro' drinker in private...


What an intellectual.

pazienza:
Got caught up by duty only to return to see 48 mentions.

I had taken time to read through arguments put forward by people especially my Igbo brothers in my absence, let me address some of the issues raised now.

1. I'm being emotional writing off Urhobos, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Edo from Biafran arrangement?
No. I'm only being pragmatic. Yes, I had visited some of those enclaves and I know the prevailing sentiments there.

Ask yourself this question, since Frathy started making Igbophobic comments here, including before now, how many times have you seen an Urhobo person come out here to criticize him for mis representing their stand? How many Ijaws have you seen criticize or antagonize Barcanista's Igbophobic stance on this forum? .
They all keep mute, you know why? Because those ones are reflecting their true stance on these issues.
So, in my honest opinion, the issue of impersonation or non impersonation is not the issue here. I'm also a member of Facebook pages of these groups were, I know what's obtainable there. And frathy and Barcanista mirrors them here to a T. It's not a co incidence.

2. I never insulted Urhobos, or any other minorities in my initial posts here, ( thank you Ikechukwu for pointing that out in my absence). I only pointed out that they are not part of Biafra( Which is exactly how these people see themselves) and that they are Igbophobic beings( which is also true). I did that because I know that the Igbophobia in these people take pleasure in being presented as desirable by naive Igbos, so that they could gleefully display their Igbohate, so I was quick to snuff that out, and as predicted, it bruised their fragile ego and made lots of them sad. You see, to these people, Igbo reaching out to them attracts hate, Igbo not reaching out to them, attracts even more hate.

3. Not knowing ones enemies is a very sure way to lose in life. These people are not neutrals, to be won over, no. These people are Igbophobic.
Not knowing our enemies was why Ojukwu saw a bitter rival like Awolowo as a neutral and was busy trying to win him over, when a better assessment could have revealed his Igbophobic nature and enabled Ojukwu to have a better assessment of issues.

4. I'm not against anyone trying to win these people over. I'm only saying that these people, for no known provocation or wrong doing on the part of Ndiigbo are extremely Igbophobic, and that there is no hiding of this big elephant in a room. Their Igbophobia must be establishing and every Igbo youth out there must know about them. We can't "come and go and" be repeating Ojukwu mistakes, mbanu! I guess Ojukwu considered himself a military strategist too.

How do you win over a group that hates you just because of your existence, for no wrong doing towards them on your part?

5. These people are all over the place expressing their Igbophobia, telling whoever cares to know, why they can't be part of Biafra. Yet here I am telling them that they are not in Biafran plans, one would expect them to be happy with the arrangement, but no, not these people, their innate Igbophobia dictates that they find fault in any thing the Igbo man does.
So, here they are crying over my posts, vomiting vitriolic Igbophobic posts everywhere, which I aptly responded in good measure, and then they turn around and say: " See! The Igbos are the hateful ones, they hate us all".

Special thanks to Nwasinachi, Ikechukwu, blue2020,hushuptimus,Omar12,Develpeast,Xtrose etc. I saw you guys contributions here, Ndi oma, Ndi oma.

Me, I don't see the need for all these talk about non Igbos and Igbos in Biafra
Let any group that likes join Biafra at the beginning.

The rest like the Barcanisters and this Akwa Ibom guy who authored this thread can apply later for asylum in Biafra when MULLAHS from the Southwest and northern region of their Nigeria start to coerce them to their brand of political Islam which exists in Nigeria.
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Why must Igbo curry persons like Obong Attags and Edwin Clarks, etc. who today still go to Abuja to beg for oil blocks in their backyards, oil blocks and their backyards which they indirectly gave up when they marched in 1967 to Kaduna and begged the then governor of Northern Nigeria, Hassan Katsina, to beg Gowon to cut off the non Igbo groups in the old eastern region from Biafra? Shortly after their journey, Cross Rivers and Rivers states were created and led to Biafra's failure.


Fifty years after cutting them off from Biafra, much of the leaders of the south south no longer live in the area, they live in northern Nigeria's Abuja. The environment of the Nigerdelta is devastated. Insecurity wrecks the area.
Sad to say this, because any wrong in the southsouth is quickly exported to the south east.

Well, its no point courting the non-Igbo speaking people in southsouth for Biafra. The non-Igbo speaking southsouth needs Biafra with the Igbo more than the Igbo needs the non-Igbo speaking
Southsouth in Biafra.. Even Ikwerre and Portharcourt are not too important. Beira Corridor type of gateway to the sea can be purchased from Portaharcourt by Biafra for access to the Atlantic Ocean in Abonema Wharf.

Zambia or one other landlocked country in southern Africa uses Beira Corridor purchased from an ocean front country. The country prospers, and most importantly, its people live in peace, are proud of their country.

However, if ever a referendum is conducted about Biafra in the non-Igbo areas of the southsouth, and some groups voted to join Biafra fair, but the Igbos need not bef them. Of course many non-Igbo groups in the Southsouth may vote in majority to joining Biafra.

Let the non)Igbo groups in the Southsouth who dislike the Igbo join Islamo Yoruba and northern Nigeria where people believe that crude oil is all a country needs for growth.

ndoeyopbennet:
Address the issues raised first. Trust me when I say 80% of Niger Deltans MAY opt to stay in NIGERIA!

Money-for-hand Propagandist, where was the 80% test conducted? In the room where you received your pay-off to write this? Dishonesty does not pay.

Will you buy the southsouth anti-Biafra votes with the money they give you to engage in stuff like this?

Will that money be enough for you to buy the long-tormented and now more informed Ijaws, Ogonis, Andonis, Efiks, etc to vote to stay in Nigeria where they have lost lots of their natural habitat to oil exploitation? You buy them to continue in Nigeria to remain quasi-second class citizens in Nigeria, because your Akwa Ibom state receives billions of Naira more than other states every month because of Akwa Ibom's luck from offshore oil?

To keep himself busy, your Attah who said Biafra is Igbo affairs has been begging Arewa for political restructuring for decades, as if he does not know that Arewa cannot agree. Power is not negotiated.

People like you don't know that Arewa has been kicking against 13%. They say it makes some states richer than others.
Be careful, if your lot continue with phobia against Biafra, next time Arewa brings out the 13% issue for debate, the 13% risks being quashed.

Only a dimwit from the south south fails to understand that the Igbo serve as buffer for the southsouth groups in Nigeria. Put in another way, without the Igbo protection for the Southsouth groups, the Yoruba and the north would immediately 'swallow' the groups in the south south.
It's annoying reading this type of things from someone from the south south who can put sentences together, someone who should have understood that without southsouth groups cooperating with the southeast, there is hardly any further incentives the Southsouth and southeast ask individually from Nigeria which can be realised.
We are aware of the new persons from the south south hired by their oppressors to write this type of things to further divide the Southsouth and southeast groups, so as to postpone Biafra.

We have seen southern people living in northern Nigeria driven down south by Boko violence. We see Fulani herds men sprawling in the south east and even in the Southsouth doing mayhem.
All these are efforts at softening the southern people to make Islamic country rasily become the official title to Nigeria.
Hard to believe that there are still dimwits who can receive money to write trash on www.
And guess what, he calls Biafra people e-warriors. What an insulting thing to say!!!
Before 13%, Ariaria market in Aba was the mainstay of his daily subsistence.

ndoeyopbennet:
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I've written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igboid groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I've been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I've also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.

When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I'm not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.

I won't waste time so I'll just proceed to list the issues I want to raise as well as state my arguments. Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed. Please let's set a good precedence from hereon.

1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other's excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?

2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won't be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don't expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won't go.

3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
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If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I've seen comments such as "if you don't like it, go and stay in Sokoto", "all land in the South is Biafraland", etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn't Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won't get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can't deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.

7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the "heroes" of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his "oil" to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.

9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people's thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?


Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won't pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals. I hold no grudge towards anyone or any group.




- Inibehe Bennet (Akwa Ibom State Indigene).

Remain the semi-second class citizen you are in hugely-failed Nigeria. Biafra doesn't need people like you.

The 13% derivation which makes your state swim in wealth was largely negotiated by late Ikemba Ojukwu before the Supreme court merely gave the stamp of approval; ask former Rivers state governor, Peter Odili.

Only thing Biafrans need from people like you is stop the fight against Biafra.

If you are willing to stay in Nigeria with multi-ethnic groups, and where no body from your state can become president unless the type of luck of Goodluck Jonathan strikes, it's most naive to question who shall be leader of Biafra to be governed through fiscal federalism.
But note, you shall not be considered for asylum in Biafra when the Mullahs from the southwest and north start operations to coerce you to accept their religious beliefs.

It's hard to imagine there are people still in this Southsouth who have refused to learn from experience.

Lol. Buhari's image makers on it. Who is foiled?

boman2014:
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A Facebook user, Ibrahim Abbas, has shared a totally heartbreaking message on his page.

Read as posted below:

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Source: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1181755161877716&id=100001297313084

These happen because lovers of one Nigeria because of cheap cash from crude oil love to continue to have a Nigeria kept ONE only by firearms of soldiers and police.
In a true country, this is another cause for outrage, but in Nigeria, it's business as usual. Worse massacres take place frequently.

leisuretym:
any attempt to give any other yoruba the Awolowo treatment will end this useless union, you did it to MKO, but not any more.

Nothing can you do.

Did OBJ, Diya, MKO, Awo, Soyinka, name them from Yoruba, did all of the above not receive that imprisonment or death from Fulani?

There's a major Yoruba problem which stops Oduduwa Republic from ever coming to be demanded for. The problem is: because of Islam, about half of Yoruba population looks forward to the descendants of Othman Dan Fodio in the north for directions.