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WispyEthereal:
oh just shut up and hide your face! See yourself playing semantics and word salad instead of addressing your specific claim! In your own source from 2016, white on white crime is 2,874 and black on black was 2,570! In what hillbilly Kentucky backwater is 2,570 greater than 2,874 that is even without adding all the other categories of crime of other racial and multiracial involvement by perpetrator and victims into the mix! And see benalvino3 acting as your validation dummy or does he also claim that 2,570>2,874? you claimed that black on black violent crime is more than all other categories of violent crimes combined!

You dimwitted offspring of a newt!

Anything which says rates means percentages. That's why I have consistently used rates and percentages, the reports of these crimes in summary use rates and percentages.

This is our fourth class today. Do take note as I'd score you at the end of the week.

US white population: 236.5 million

White on white murders in 2016: 2,874

Percentage white on white murders/ white population: 0.0000121 %. Meaning 12 in every 100,000 gets murdered by their own amongst whites.

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US black population: 41.1 million

Black on black murders 2016: 2,570

Percentage/rate of black of black murders/black population: 0.0000625 %

Meaning about 63 in every 100,000 blacks get murdered by their own race - blacks.

See how percentages/rates are calculated now?

That's how Blacks on black crimes being the highest RATES/PERCENTAGES of intra-racial murders was arrived at, and it is much more than the other rsces' intra-racial murders combined!

Your name should really be WispyIntelligence - you have a very small amount of intelligence, and the eight wonder of the world is how you made it pass your toddling age without jumping off a jumping into a river because your intelligence mirrors that of a jellyfish.

Dumbolibtard!

benalvino3:
hopefully he does not say the europeans put this data in it to fault blacks

I am baiting all of them! ALL of them. I want them to keep digging themselves deeper into their nadir-esque holes of baseless ignorance. I am debating and mocking them. They are my puppets and would fall for every psychological trap I keep setting. I'd keep withholding evidence until they make fools of themselves then I post it.

sanpipita:
Rinse and repeat, you could come back next year and read same things from him.

You ran away as usual then return to take snide shots from the sidelines like you did during the conditional cannibalism debate leaving it to Budaatum to fight alone. You are so timid, if you were a soldier, a mouse would be more fit to lead your platoon.

Of all the Leftist nutcases here seeking to rub shoulders with me intellectually, I'm the only one who has kept providing evidence for ALL my claims from official US government websites while you template your hogwash on blackmail and assumptions.

Facts only! Your emotions be damned!

WispyEthereal:
or today we are currently on your claims on CRT and that black on black violeng crime is more than all other violent crime combined together by official government statistics.

See? You jumped from lying that blacks don't have the highest violent crimes rates (including murder and robbery) after I provided official statists to prove blacks are top murders and robbers in America.


Now you've jumped to seeking evidence that black on black crimes are the highest. But being your tutor, I'd educate you. It brings me joy to shine a light into the denseness of your mind.

Class is in session! Get your jotter and take notes.

Official homicide statistics by race provided by the Criminal Justice Information Services Division of the FBI https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls for 2016 alone.


I'm trimming it down to black on black murders:


Of the 6,676 homicides/murders in the US for the year 2016, 2,870 of those murdered were blacks who were murdered by 2,570 blacks.

In other words, about 90 percent of blacks murdered in 2016 alone were murdered by their own race - blacks. That's the highest murder rate within any intra-racial group.
The highest rate for any racial group on itself.

But CRT wants you to believe whites are responsible for black people dying and getting shot. They want you to believe cops are gunning down black men daily in hundreds.

Let's not even go into the percentage of blacks who murder whites versus whites who murder blacks. The number of blacks who murder whites is exactly 2.2 times the number of whites who murder blacks.

Yet blacks are just 14 percent of the population.


You still don't realize everything I type is targeted. Never random. I am baiting you to back yourself into a corner soi can bloody your nose for the fun of it.

What's a Centaur to this Zeus? Class is in session!

WispyEthereal:
I promise I won't, what is it? Yeah, I won't run, bring it on! Maybe I will be the one to succeed in showing you that your pretence to ignorance isn't fooling anyone

Dude, I registered on Nairaland in 2014 and have been active and my accounts known sinne then. Never before have I been bested in debates or e-brawls. One of the reasons for that is simple: I never debate or comment on issues I don't have a firm grasp of.

If you start a debate about crypto-trading, I'd take a backseat. I know the terms but I'm not invested in the topic. Unlike you, I'd never jump in to show off.

Aren't you the same guy who was claiming England was ruled by blacks and was confused about the age of the first homo sapiens yet I kept correcting you with evidence and links, only for you to return 4 days later?

You have the inverse proportion of Einstein's IQ!

sanpipita:
You lack proper comprehension or what? is it a lie that people who are attacking CRT embrace Nazis and confederates? be free to include yourself if you wish.

Exactly! You are proving my point! This is the reason many people of other races shy away from talking about CRT. Regardless of the facts presented, you would label them racist as the cheap escape route from intellectual, factual debates.

But it baffles you when people of your own race question these things. The racist claim holds no weight.

You and WispyEthereal are dumbfounded and can't even counter the stats. Are you going to argue against obvious US government stats like you did claiming the law legalising conditional cannibalism doesn't hold even though it's a written law?

I just should you official evidence of Black Americans having committing the highest number of murders and robberies despite being just 14 percent of the population and on about whataboutism.

You need to be schooled in the art and science of logical debates. Everything I have stated since morning when I joined in this has been focused on one thing:

How flawed the premise of CRT is and how victimhood would always draw blacks back. Every single thing. Not deviated once. All the needless epistles about issues which doesn't relate to black sociopolitical reach are only as relevant as Budaatum's need to display pseudo-sanctimony.


You're as smart as rusty doornail hammered to a wooden pole. Sanpipita: even your username seems like a dyslexia subtype.

WispyEthereal:
I look forward to your official government statistics showing black on black violent crimes are higher than all violent crimes put together
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2021/jun/1/us-doj-statistics-race-and-ethnicity-violent-crime-perpetrators/
The above is sourced from the DOJ since we're doing official sources and is for 2021
There is similar for 2018 but I'm getting firewalled accessing it

Updated
https://www.crimeinamerica.net/department-of-justice-data-on-violent-crime-and-race/

This contains data from 2018 too that disproves your claim that black people commit more violent crimes than all others put together but I won't call you a liar, I will wait till you present your facts so we can compare

Official statistics of crimes by the Office of Justice Programs, US Department of Justice
https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2


Bear in mind that blacks are just less than 14 percent of the population.

Black Americans commit the highest crimes in these areas:

- Murder and manslaughter

- Robbery

The most violent of crimes. Yet just 14 percent of the population. Less than one-seventh of the whole population committing the highest murders and robbery. But CRT wants us to believe racism is the cause.

See how I provided evidence from official US government websites? I baited you. Take a thousand seats! You're a toddler in the game of wits. I never make claims I don't have evidence for.

benalvino3:
tell us what you understand about CRT. the last time Disst.roy and I discuss this with these simpletons, none of them could show any real understanding of it. so tell what you know lets discuss it.

I swear by everything, these guys on Nairaland, on live interviews, or on other social media platforms always duck the CRT debate. If it's a White person questioning them, they gaslight with the racist tag. When it's black like us they run.

The last time we had a full debate about CRT, only Budaatum could start to argue on the Leftist side of the fence. And even him disagreed with some of the postulations of the CRT proponents.

The other guys began a cussfest days after.

I don't even mind, no insults but any of them who is intelligent enough to debate the CRT should step up. They better bring their A-game and come with facts from credible (neutral) or official sources we can all verify, not some nonsense emotional blackmail attempts.

They always run.

gambojimeta:
Ibos Isa fit becom president ifi demu work fa it. President Isa nat land on peoples lap easy. Buti ibos Isa nat goodu wit politiking. Demu need ta learn work Fram NDI yarubawa andi Hausa/Fulani

I agree. Which is why in previous posts even on this thread, I chastise the Igbos for revelling in victimhood. An Ibibio man has a higher chance of being President of this country as it stands than an Igbo man. Why? The Ibibios unrobed that victim status, built bridges (Obasanjo, Goodluck and Kwankwaso loved spending time in Akwa Ibom even while in office. Do confirm this.) but the Igbos revel in victimhood when they can be more sociopolitically. The Igbos hold the economic reins of this country and they don't even realise the power they have.

Odd that Ibibios have higher chances because the Ibibios and Igbo's fought side by side during the Civil War to the very end. So why is one better than the other sociopolitically?
That's a question we need to answer.

But stating like Budaatum did that Igbos should never be allowed to be President is a no-no. Now you know why it particular irks me when he goes off about racism and BLM. Hypocrisy!

So being tribalistic towards the Igbos and Igbo lives don't matter?

budaatum:
Did I say you defended, or that you have no issue with them carrying a 200+ year old flag?

Dude, stop trying to waste my time!

Semantics! Stating I have no issue with Confederate-flag-waving lunatics is tantamount to stating I support them or I have stated in clear terms when asked that I have no issue with them.
In fact, I have never been part of any discussion about Confederate flags but I have repeatedly referred to the Proud Boys and KKK as lunatics. (You can local-search "DissTroy KKK" and "DissTroy Proud Boys" to confirm this.)

This is exactly what consititues cancel culture and destroying lives. If you had made this statement on Twitter and I were white, the mob would have attacked me and I'd be destroyed. They don't even need proof as you could claim I deleted the tweet or said so to somebody who knows somebody close to you.

That tactics is exactly how Chrissy Teigen, John Legend's wife, used in destroying many white people's lives on Twitter for years until her tricks caught up with her.

You knew what you were doing when you lied to Sanpipita that I have no issue with waving the Confederate flag. That's a veiled way of calling someone a racist or KKK member.

Shameless tool!

budaatum:
Listen to him claim its 200 years old, but has no issues with supremacists carring a 200+ year old Confederate flag. Guess not knowing history he doesn't know what they are saying with the flag.

If you can show one instance I have supported the Proud Boys, KKK, or defended the Confederate flag, I'd write you a 1000-word apology then deactivate my account afterwards.

You stupîd shameless liar! You project your lies all over the place. You are the racist and tribalist on Nairaland.

On the other hand, I can show instances of you race-baiting and, in Nigerian issues, placing a glass ceiling on and being hateful/tribalistic towards the Igbos.
You are the tribal version of the KKK. You have declared hatred towards the Igbos and stated they should never be allowed to be President. Everything is here on Nairaland.

I can be cool with you but you are a barefaced liar who needs to be called out.

budaatum:
You are very very dumb!

The Jews don't need to yell Jews lives matter because [b] no one on this earth, except in the Arab world perhaps, would dare say Jews lives don't matter!

You silly person! Nobody has dared said Black lives don't matter. No country has said so matter how racist they are. Show me one example of people saying black lives don't matter or death to blacks. Even you just admitted Jews face more hatred from Middle Eastern people and Muslims but they aren't screaming Jew Lives Matter.

If black lives were as valued as Jew lives, blacks wouldn't be reminding you their lives matter neither. Just as Palestinians wouldn't either if their lives were valued too!

Blacks love victimhood. You enjoy gaslighting. After what the Nigerian government did to those in the Eastern Region during the Civil War and continues to do exploiting the oil, we could either play the victims' card or proactively change our narrative. You could either scream "South South Lives Matter" or drag the federal government to the round table and force them to accept your deals. (I'm Ibibio but this is the part I admire the Ijaws for - no victimhood. They demand from the federal government and you do as they decree.)

Blacks love victimhood. You expect to get in to the same college with less scores. You complain less blacks are represented but you don't score high enough.

Do you realize Asian score the highest in STEM exams (Indians and Chinese particularly) but merits get sacrificed sometimes for affirmative action to fit in less blacks.

There are more funding programmes and scholarships for POC (blacks particularly) but blacks turn a blind eye because it favours them, even though there are poor whites who need this.

The Jews are smart enough to know yelling Jew Lives Matter is stupid so they worked their way into the boardrooms and decision-making tables and pressure groups who influence decisions in their favour.

The founder of Black Lives Matter was exposed in February this year buying luxury homes in WHITE-mostly neighbourhoods worth millions of dollars.

The families of the victims they used as poster persons to push the Black Lives Matters campaign have come out to say they haven't gotten any monies from BLM.

BLM monies and donations go to ActBlue which funds DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST ACTIVITIES and not support blacks.

I dare you, Budaatum, to deny this!

Who do you think you are debating with? Haven't you learnt your lessons that I always have evidence for any argument I make? How dare you try to insult the intelligence of the reading public with lies?! How dare you?!

sanpipita:
What kind of absolute nonsense is this, you are giving Jews benefit of knowing their history and still having to do great things but for blacks its victim hood, haven't blacks been achievers in America?

You are dumb or play dumb to further the chatter by the voices in your head.

Thankfully, knowing how manipulative you Leftists are, I took time to address all areas in my previous post.

You don't see Jews yelling Jew Lives Matter. They know their history. Holocaust jokes are still sensitive to Jews but they aren't asking for hand-me-downs and the standards lowered for them like Black Americans are doing.

They are not asking for affirmative actions.

They are not consoling themselves when they fail that America is antisemitic (we both know the Left has many antisemitic campaigners, including Ilhan Omar).

They are avoiding crimes as much as they can instead of doing crimes and blaming the American system for victimising black men.

Unlike blacks, they aren't canonising violent male criminals amongst them who rapéd and abuse women because it's political weapon.

They are not asking for donations to Jew Lives Matter and the monies being siphoned to ActBlue which funds Democrat party and social activities.

And wonder what makes you think slavery can't happen again, funny you acknowledge fears of the Jews but for blacks it's victimhood, you are even saying history doesn't matter unless it's recent history huh?

You shameless liar! Anyone who read my replies to you all through would see I pointed out history (old and recent) should be taught but victimhood should never glamorised.

I see how you deviously avoided all the points which I stated Black Americans do to themselves like highest murder rates, abortions, substance convictions, prison demography, dysfunctional families, and violent crimes even though they are less than 14 percent of the population.

Black-on-black violent crimes alone are higher than all violent crimes put together? Is racism the reason Blacks Americans keep murdering themselves?

You are as devious as Budaatum. When you lose, you run off then return 24 hours later claiming you were busy and couldn't continue with the arguments.

You couldn't even go on with the Igbo/Biafra example you tried to juxtapose after I attacked and countered it. Stop addressing issues you can't defend with verified facts.

For every fact I have stated, I can provide links to official US Government sources collaborating these facts. Yet you can't prove even one way there's a glass ceiling on black achievements.

Same way both of you kept denying there's no law legalising conditional cannibalism in the US. I brought evidence and you began whataboutism to muddy the waters then ran off into the shadows.

Facts only here! Your emotions and assumptions matter little when the truth light is beamed.

sanpipita:
Why is it that everything else is okay to teach but CRT? will you say teaching Holocaust glamorizes victim hood, I feel sorry for some you who gulp down narratives like this, white supremacists will go far as protecting their own history regardless of how terrible it is but tell you black history glamorizes victimhood lmao

It does.

Here's the difference between Jews who suffered the Holocaust and Blacks today whose grandfathers didn't even experience slavery:

The Jews acknowledge their history and the horrors they suffered but it has spurred them to achieve more. They shun victimhood and have instead taken proactive measures to dominate every sphere of society, from politics to trade to tech and real estate.
The most influential lobby groups in the US today are Jewish/Jews.

In fact, it's almost like their fear of the Holocaust ever happening again is why Jews (in Israel) too are combat-ready and have pushed themselves to ascend to the very zenith of any profession.

Instead of blacks who teach revelling in victimhood to their kids, Jews/Jewish people indoctrinate and push their young ones never to settle for less. Research this part.

sanpipita:
Come to Nigeria as say you want to teach or discuss Biafra war, usual suspects will say you are playing victimhood

Nobody is saying don't talk about history but don't revel in victimhood. It's the main problem I have with the Igbos - they can be anything really sociopolitically in this country (I believe this) but they keep revelling in victimhood of the Civil War when they weren't the only victims. Ibibios, Ukwuanis and others were victims of that war too but we've managed to move on.
Do you want me to break it down to you how the other tribes in league with the Igbos suffered the fall out of the Civil War? Do you want to break it down to you how the Igbos turned on their other tribal neighbouring allies during the war? Don't get me started on that part. We got over the bitterness of the fallout but we didn't forget. It's the main reason Rivers and Akwa Ibom States do not allow any form of Biafra rally over the years. It has nothing to do with Wike and Udom Emmanuel's choices.

The Igbos' case is even understandable given it happened in recent history but Black Americans?

Tell your history. Let it galvanize you to be more, not cage you. The difference between the Jews and Black Americans.

sanpipita:
Youngkin message appealed to them, Republicans seems to have convinced voters CRT preaches hate especially against whites and I will tell you this even white Democrats might vote against CRT teaching in schools.

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CRT doesn't just preach hatred for whites as supposed oppressors, it glamorises victimhood as a status blacks should revel in. We discussed at length what it constitutes in September(?) this year and you Leftists (Budaatum especially) kept doubling down on the victimhood of blacks, even referencing atrocities of 200 years ago as basis for CRT which was formed less than 40 years ago, and became widespread even years later when conditions had improved for blacks.

Are whites the reason why blacks Americans constitute just under 14 percent of the population but commit over 80 percent of murders?

Is racism the reason why blacks have the highest abortion rates per demography and dysfunctional, broken families?

How come you don't call it racism when blacks benefit from Affirmative Action?

You even tried to excuse away underachievements of some blacks as down to racism and glass ceiling yet you couldn't prove any scenario which places a glass ceiling for black achievements.

AkalaJ:
Wike (being the most influential PDP governor) might push for Tambuwal, and in return Tambuwal would make him his vice.

No president or governor would want Wike as his vice. Wike is too domineering and would never take a backseat. He'd challenge and compete with the president.

Remember how bossy and domineering Wike was as Minister of Education(State?) during the ASUU crisis of 2013? He outshone the Minister and bullied ASUU into submission. Even bullying Amaechi then.

If Tambuwal becomes President with Wike as his vice, it's Wike ruling indirectly. ...Except Tambuwal has a stop-gap cabal to cage Wike.

basilico:
CNN opinion poster mathematics is the problem.Most likely they cancelled all the zeros and got (6/42) million dollars or 142,000 $ for each the 42 million starving people in the world.

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Here's the part I refused to add in my earlier post:

The head of the World Food Programme admitted on Twitter last night that the CNN article claiming $6 billion dollars would end world poverty is misinformation. The only thing is, he refused to call CNN out on it because the lie furthers WFP agenda. ...Until Elon Musk and a number of high profile persons began calling them out on the lie two nights ago.

I knew some of the dyslexic pseudo-lettered Libtards here would try to defend it using that CNN article like the clown above you has dedicated 2 months of his life doing imposing trolling so far on this thread. I baited them and they fell predictably.

https://twitter.com/WFPChief/status/1454883966071230472?s=20

CNN wrote an article claiming just 2 percent of Elon Musk's wealth would end world hunger. (Musk has openly criticise the Left for years and what they represent.)

A fact-check was done that 2 percent of Elon Musk wealth is $6billion while the World Food Programme raises about $8.3 billion yearly.

Elon Musk challenged the UN to publish how they spend that money on Twitter with full documents and the plans, including who benefits from all the monies raised over the years and the U.N. ran away. If they did, he swore to give $6billion to the WFP.

The controversy raging on Twitter now: https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1454475769200185349?s=20

Point is, CNN and the Left's virtue-signaling is now common knowledge. Cancel Culture has been disgraced again, like it was when they tried to get Dave Chappelle canceled weeks ago.

WispyEthereal:
no source? My source is the lack of that specific form if vandalism anywhere else, defacing a statue by destruction of its nose, if you have a "sauce" please present it and debunk my conspiracy theory.
Also, on the earliest humans being all black irrespective of the location on the planet, check out cheddar man in England

Dude, evolution happens and it continues to happen daily and exponentially over thousands of years.

The first set of humans (if we'd call them that) weren't exactly blacks as we are today.

We are Homo sapiens. You'd always used Neanderthals as the connecting dots between the evolutionary chain but that is wrong. 60 years ago, you would have been assumed as right but not today.

Humans even as Homo erectus (ape-like) were already dispersing to different parts of the world. After Neanderthals, the next phase is Homo sapiens.
The next phase was actually Homo longi : http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/homo-longi-09804.html .

Ironically, Homo longi evidence was discovered in China is dated back to 146,000 years ago. Humans continued to evolve to Homo sapiens. Before we became Homo sapiens. So what's your bases for claiming ancient Europe was dominated by blacks.

The humans who built the Egyptian empire were the Homo Sapiens evolving from some of the Homo longi who remained in Africa. This took many more tens of thousands of years.

The residents of Ancient Europe and China and other places look nothing like the African residents.

I don't argue facts I've not researched for a long time. I don't argue then research about it. Don't put the cart before the horse.

If you know little about a topic, take a backseat and don't insult those knowledgeable about it with misinformation.

Egypt was the main center of recorded and evidential Homo sapiens civilisation but that doesn't mean others in every other part of the world were us - blacks. The evolution to Homo sapien didn't happen at in same time in every place.

You are doing exactly what we accuse the whites of doing to African history by whitifying it - 'Africanising' historical facts.

frozen70:
To be honest, you are just fighting yourself and it looks like you finds it difficult to forgive

I was thinking your wife is messing up while married to you, I never knew that you are talking about the life style she lived while in school

You can go ahead and live the knd of life that you want, without any hindrances or permission, after all it's your life

This is complete gaslighting.

If she were open about her past while dating, maybe he wouldn't have married her.

He's giving hints you are all ignoring. She was a nightcrawler, screwing multiple guys and clubing all over. She probably even aborted.

In school I didn't go wild or did drugs or had wild parties and órgies banging RANDOM women or knock up a woman then got her to get an abortion.
I still haven't done any of these things and I'm probably one of the least religious persons on Nairaland.

Stating that, I'd consider it cheating if I find out my partner was screwing around in her past, probably abusing substances too and/or did abortions.

I've always been upfront with the females in my life over the years about these things. Some think they are smart and can hide their past but when I find out, I call it off. And you'd never know I've called it off until months later.

I'm not expecting she should be a saint but don't go banging random dudes, aborting and abusing substances then think I'd accept you because it's your past. No!

Actions have consequences and I'm not going to spend the rest of my life dealing with the consequences of your juvenile delinquency. Never. I don't care if you have been canonised now.

Let people choose who they want to be with.

Kilishihunter:
If they don't sack that man before January Alaga, Na cutlass them go use pursue am laslas after any game finishes

If Koeman stays till December, we'd be kicked out of every competition, and lounging at the bottom of the La Liga table.
If he stays till January, many key players would seek to leave.

armyofone:
Forever young.

Same smile through thick and thin - happy birthday to the future president! Face and smile of a champion

Imagine that young girl in your 6th grade class - fighting for your future helping you fight class bullies

Huh? Hillary Clinton helping to fight bullies? Are you a student of history?

Same Hillary who threatened and bullied Monica Lewinsky whom her husband took advantage of and banged senselessly into silence?

Same Hillary who bullied the staff of the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya into silence when they called for help and got a tip off they were going to be attacked by terrorists but Hillary declined, leaving them for dead because she didn't want to upset their Muslim friends?

Did you read her leaked emails on WikiLeaks where you'd find other devious things she was up to? I could go on and on.

Hillary and her husband have been the bullies all their lives!

WispyEthereal:
I agree, I never implied being black is homogenous as nurture or environment also has its own effects on genetic modification, but as compared to whiteness or our modern classification of racial differentiation they were black or more black than white, the point here being that the groups that migrated out of Africa were all back before location induced mutation introduced certain specificities to their genome, so across the world, there were different variations of being black,

Just because the Homo sapiens became doesn't mean he wasn't crude. He was. Just because he could make fire doesn't mean he was civilised.

The Homo sapien took thousands of years before he formed communities and became a seafarer. Even as homo erectus, he was spreading into different areas so by the time he evolved to Homo sapien, he was already in different areas of the world in between the thawing of ice and periodical warming of the earth.

If you research, you'd find archaeological findings of human remains in Europe dating back to 300,000 years ago. Those were part of the people spreading.

It's just like monkeys or say lions. A male gets kicked off at adolescent to got start his own pride so he moved far away. Then his own progeny moved farther away. Then farther away. Remember the Homo sapien was also a hunter gatherer with no map of the world or guide.

By the time the homo sapien would have moved from, say, Sudan to Sweden, tens of thousands of years had passed and at that point he looked nothing phenotypically like his ancestors in Sudan. The colder climate and lesser sunshine changed their skin colours and hair type over the thousands of years as adaptation.

And Africa was mostly frozen over too at a point during the Ice Age for thousands of years, until, 10,000 to 5,000 years ago, the Sahara wasn't even a desert so its inhabitants during the Ice Age would have the physical adaptations to withstand the cold (hair and others) which we, the present-day inhabitants don't have, and some migrated north as hunter-gatherers forming nuclear groups would not exactly look like us. Our skin colour and hair type are adaptations to Africa's climatic conditions in thw last 10,000 years or so.

Put the very darkskinned Jim Iyke and Mercy Johnson in the Artic Circle (the conditions of many parts of the world during the Ice Age) procreating and you'd notice their progeny growing lighter (little sunlight) with thicker hair (the cold adaptation), and less broad noses (easing breathing in the cold).

Also, I wasn't using Trevor Noah as my source, I was using his reference of what was common knowledge in academia and the media a few years ago as my emphasis, the fact that the researchers described the individual as genetically black was why he used him as a prop in the Meaghan markle story, hope you get my gist

Never take one archaeological research as your evidence. This is an unwritten rule. Even archaeologists disagree on many issues. The date of Pangea when the continental plates shifted to form continents today are still being argued.

The age range of the first humans in Europe have changed more than 4 times in recent years, from 60,000 years to 300,000. The safe bet is taking the mean hence why I was focusing on about 150,000 in my earliest response to you.

They were genetically more closer to black than white but the genetic differentiation from present day blacks is noted meaning we evolved. And we didn't look exactly like them obviously.

Even the typical Nigerian in Lagos or Bayelsa has morphological variations from the typical South African. There are physical attributes you can tell which is which, including facial features. Imagine what 30,000 years of isolation would change us.

budaatum:
I wish this were true, but war is a trait of all humans from as far back as you go.
https://historyofyesterday.com/the-100-000-years-war-between-neanderthals-and-homo-sapiens-65caaf781b7

Exactly! Humans didn't migrate as one group. During different stages of evolution even during the Ice Age, migration happened, even as Homo erectus. The evolution happened at different paces and it's not all humans who discovered fire at the same time. That's why we didn't all enter the Stonge Age, Bronze Age and Iron Age at the same time.

The inhabitants of Sentinel Island, for example, are just barely coming to grasp with their own Iron Age. The most isolated and crude set of humans on earth. They still walk with a slight bend.

These groups came upon each other e.g The Afro-migration 150,000, 60,000 and 12,000 years (the end of the last Ice Age when they earth began to warm finally) would come upon people who had migrated thousands of years before them and would fight. They even looked different from each other in many ways at that point.

Blacks are phenotypically blacks due to the conditions found in Africa. Take blacks and put then in Greenland for 10,000 years (removing global warming) even without outside interactions and we'd look different from the African residents.
Evolution is slow and requires a lot of time.

WispyEthereal:
also, the invasion and conquest of Egypt by non Africans was recorded in hieroglyphs as the hyskos invasion

Again, I agree with the whitewashing of European and Nubian histories. The inhabitants of these places as at the time when Egypt was a world power, by comparative migratory history, proves they were blacks. Not necessarily blacks like darkskinned but 'blackish'.

And there are modified forms of the hieroglyphs in Nigeria. The Ekpe cultural society of the Ibibio-Efik groups use s language system called "Nsibidi". Do comparative analysis and its similar to hieroglyphs if you can decipher them.

There was a secondary school history book written in the seventies owned by some folks I know which I came upon some years ago and it taught how to read hieroglyphs.
There's a decoding system for Nsibidi too.

It all comes into play when you realised the later group migrated from Sudan/Egypt axis to Guinea to Mali to Nigeria through present-day Benue (then the Arochukwu-Ibibio war where they split into subethicities about 800 years ago) to the bank of the Atlantic Ocean.

WispyEthereal:
wrong, I don't have the link to give you offhand, but a recently unearthed human dated to around 50,000 years if I remember correctly, was reconstructed based on bone mapping, facial structure of the chin and nasal cavity and was pronounced to be indisputably black or close enough, Trevor Noah even joked about it on the daily show when talking about Meaghan markle saying she wasn't there to darken the royal family, she was only there to recover lost territory, thing is

Dude(?), if you're basing your anthropological and archaeological evidence on what Trevor Noah, a comic-cum-political-tv-show-host, says then it leaves much left to be desired.

Except it is completely or partially mummified, you can never tell the race of a person simply from the nasal cavity. Whites and blacks essentially have similar skeletal nasal cavities which only become differentiated when skin is add. Just like you can't tell what skin type a person had based simply on their skeletal bones.

Also, the Japanese and the Nubian have similar broad chins even though they are geographically farther than Europe to Africa so where's the proof?

, whiteness was never common from ancient genetic records, even with sizeable Neanderthal settlements in northern Europe, the homo sapiens that habited most of the known world had dark skin as the weather was normal and the seasons were stable, whiteness as a recessive gene only emerged from the ice ages around the steppes of Asia where the icewall ranged southernmost and the weather was extremely frigid,, whiteness is recessive, also almost everyone on planet earth with blue eyes and blonde hair have if not one , just a handfull of ancestors in whom those genetic mutations originally occurred tens of thousands of years ago give or take around the Aryan mountain ranges, red hair in most northern Europeans is linked directly to the amount of Neanderthal DNA they have, this things are mappable, the science isn't foolproof but it can give relatively accurate pointers.

This is only as true and valid as Pluto's planetary designation in our solar system. In the last 50 years alone, archaeological findings have continually changed what is the oldest inhabitant of a place or their lifestyles.

Evidently, the earliest homo sapiens would have dark hued skin but as they migrated to different parts of the world, their phenotype and morphology became altered. The 50,000 years ago you referred to can't be referred to as "Ancient Europe" when homo sapiens were still very crude.

By the time Europe became Europe per say, these people had very different characterises from the rest of us.
Just like, while many tribes in present day Nigeria migrated and passed through Sudan as we moved south, within a few hundred years, the physical differences between us and the South Sudanese are obvious, even today. They are taller, darker with broader noses. We are shorter, fairer with less broad noses.
But are we going to say the inhabitants of the ancient Nigeria were Sudanese? No?

Compare that to Europe. As at the most recent archaeological findings in those areas of Europe you claim are inhabited by blacks, they had changed drastically. The last Ice Age even ended about 12,000 years ago. And before then there were thousands of years which seperated mass would-be migrants in Africa from the inhabitants of Europe during the Ice Age who had already been altered.

So, no human who evolved and came out of Africa could have been black given our weather during the periods of migration and so if we still agree that modern humans came out of Africa, my summation will remain theoretically correct till you present a better argument

The ironic thing is, the Afro-migration almost 120,000 years ago was through East Africa to Asia and beyond to Europe. By the time they got to Europe, they were phenotypically different from the African residents.

And no, blacks as we know them today weren't the same blacks years go. You don't look exactly like the inhabitants of this continent 150,000 years ago. You've evolved as the continent got warmer and other characteristics. Just because you live in the present-day continent doesn't mean its ancestral inhabitants looked like you.

50,000 years from now and the descendants of the Berbers of Morocco would think, like you, that the original dwellers of the lands looked exactly like them.

WispyEthereal:
everyone hombre, everyone! mehn! Explaining stuff a kid would understand to an adult is infuriating! What of if I told you, the study called "Egyptology" was a European creation to suppress the history of African excellence in the kingdom of Egypt? What if I told you statues of pharaoh's had their faces defaced specifically their noses just to have their African heritage disputed? What if I told you delineating Egypt into different kingdoms upper and lower Egypt and Nubia was also a European creation to delineate Africa from Egypt and pretend everything about ancient Egypt isn't African and Europe and some proto Europeans had a heritage in ancient Egypt that built the pyramids, what if I told all these claims I made are facts that are only seeing limelight after being suppressed for centuries even with the Vatican involved in this misdirection! What of if I told you the inhabitants of ancient Europe were blacks before white normads invaded Europe from the steppes of Asia? Look, academic debates are still ongoing disputing the veracity of European accounts so while i won't discourage you from reading history written by Europeans, take it with a pinch of salt, before the invention of race in the 1600s by white Americans, people were seen as tribes, nations and faiths and competition and discrimination was along those lines, so there were black Roman emperors, black Russian lords, poets, generals, Moorish aragonian lords, kings, emirs e.t.c, Hannibal who sacked Rome in the Punic wars was a black general leading a Phoenician city with Numidian soldiers, the later Roman empire was hardly ruled by anyone of original Roman patrician or plebeian descent, these are things coming to light in historical revisions that weren't allowed some centuries ago, Hollywood has helped in the project of rewriting history and creating the white saviour trope which has subtly and subconsciously miseducated you to the real truths about the ancient world

I agree with the whitewashing of African history,including the Europeanisation of Egyptian and Nubian histories. Solomon was black and all. Comparative migratory history has proven the Arabs and Berbers invading and dwelling in Egypt, North Africa and many areas of the Middle East only happened recently.

But the inhabitants of ancient Europe weren't blacks. Parts of Southern Europe were inhabited by blacks (obviously the Iberian Peninsular) but that was it. Just like part of Asia (close to the Horn of Africa) was.

Northern and Central Europe have traditionally been occupied by whites - the real whites who are Aryans.

Don't ruin your good points with misinformation.

For a man my age in today's sexually liberated world, I don't have a high body count so I'd never tolerate a woman who has a high body count.

Lie about it if you like, it's at your own peril but once I find out you were too sexually liberal and jumping into bed with men randomly, I'd back out.

If you focus on having sex within the confines of a defined relationship, you wouldn't have a relatively high body count.

Then again, what counts as "high body count"? We have to define this. 7, 8, 12? What?

Bitter-sweet moment.

Barca losing respectably and the Portuguese model beaten at home like a thief.

Suuuuiiiiiiii!

Are we all going to ignore the fact that some people are advocating hooking a man with juju on this thread? What is wrong with you people?

Isn't hypnotising a person against their wll a crime or are we going to ignore it because women are the ones doing it?

Now when a woman wears something as simple as waistbeads, men get triggered because you've all normalised juju.

jpmoriarti:
No hypocrite here. If you check some of my posts in that regard, you'd see I had requested that I wish to read some of their works. Same as I am doing for hulk. So I dont know where you're getting the hypocrite stuff.

There's nothing odd about the guys here claiming to be sport writers. Many guys who are very involved in football analyses here are deeply involved in sport writing.

Robosky.2 focuses more on our national teams and others in this section are known to write for sports blogs. Many of you follow UEFA clubs' activities almost twice as keenly as I do and there are many top-notch analyses here. Twitter guys reference Nairaland Sports Section as the home of Nigeria's best football pundits.

It makes sense that some guys here are sportswriters. The keeness makes it even more believable.

Joshua Ibeku on Twitter is the most prominent African La Liga pundit (he's a Barça fan, and from and lives in Port Harcourt) but he's no where as good as some guys here, especially Raumdeut.er and a few others when it comes to football punditry or analyses.

But when you lie about being a professor or feeding a whole generation of another person's family as a faux Bangladeshi web developer then our eyebrows would begin to arch in questions. And when we start asking these questions, disgrace follows because the lies are always so.

jpmoriarti:
Lmaooo but he was able to engage in abit of technical discussion with Firstborn yesterday. So i guess he's worth abit more than we value him here.

However, I believe that if you are earning an honest living in some ways, you shouldn't have any difficulty explaining what it is that you do. By doing so, you could get assistance from some unknown person or you can be of help to some unknown person.

He's smart and can be rational. I did mention days ago that he was the only Madridiot who didn't defend Virus' scamming antics and kept demanding the fraudster defends himself. He's still the only Madridiot who isn't buying the hogwash whitewashing attempts the fraudster has been trying to do for two days now. I gave him credit for that

But TheHulk619 isn't a professor. And that doesn't take anything away from him. A professor of digital tech (likely cybersecurity in Nigeria)? And given his pitted age range, he's not up to 50 years old - the ascension to being a professor in that area when only a few universities have concentrated in that kind of digital tech speciality for only a few years is unlikely.

He's not a professor of anything. It's a pity that, like Virus, he needs to lie to elevate himself when he'd otherwise be accepted for who he is.

Devvy is a juvenile bedwetter and you guys have accepted him as our resident clown.

jpmoriarti:
Professor of what?

This how they set themselves up, bragging and exaggerating their self worth for fleeting validation and 'likes'.

Except he means "professor" as a ring name for "planner" like Professor in Money Heist TV series. Fitting because, like the last few days have proven, he's the gang leader of these thieving and scamming Madridiots.