richs: blood is strong

great664: and thick

kennygee:

No.

kennygee:

Hehe hehe he

kennygee: Never been on one.

dyt babe: Orisirisi werey lowa o

fijiano202: All man for himself on judgement day...if u see hell Fire am 100% sure craze go run leave u

alexleo: Thanks brethren in the house. While others join us let me bring out the issue.

Over the years, christianity has preached about God's love to the point that preaching about the other side of him seems to be a taboo or a no go area in a lot of churches. Yet the truth remains that this other side of him is needed as much as the love side in order to, somehow, have a balanced view of who God is. The other side of God I am talking about is the Judgement/wrath side of him. This judgment side of him has his wrath connected to it too. Yes God is the judge of the whole earth. Now the questions that come to mind with regard to this are-

1. Was Judgment/wrath part of God's original nature before the fall of lucifer or did he develop this nature when lucifer failed?

2. If we say he developed it when lucifer failed it means God isnt perfect(in other words he keeps developing attitudes like human as events unfold) and if we say he had the nature even before lucifer failed, could we then say that God orchestrated the fall of lucifer(i.e. he knew lucifer will fall and still went ahead to create him) in order that this other side of him(judgment/wrath) might be made manifest? Which could also be said that lucifer simply fulfilled God's purpose. (remember the case of Judas Iscarriot who carried out an evil role yet he was also fulfilling God's purpose at that time). Nobody tempted lucifer. Heaven was such a holy place that never knew anything called sin yet the sin of rebellion sprang up in lucifer and he was able to win the hearts of other angels. I believe God saw when the sin entered him and we are not told he was warned. God also must have seen him making efforts to convince the other angels that supported him yet he didnt stop him from convincing them. could it be that God allowed all these to take place that this purpose of manifesting the other side of him might be fulfilled?

3. could we also say that it is this same manifestation of the other side of God that made him plant the tree that brought the fall of man in the garden of Eden(apart from the fact that he gave us freewill)? Surely being an all knowing God, he knew the tree will cause the fall of man yet he allowed it in the garden. Could it then be wrong to say that the tree was also created to serve God's purpose in manifesting this other side of him in continuation of the one that already started in heaven? Because if the whole place were very perfect then there was no other way this other side of God could have been made manifest. It is only an imperfect environment that can serve as a platform for judgment/wrath to manifest. For example, in the case of lucifer, God couldnt have started unleashing his judgement/wrath in a perfect heaven hence the need for the interruption of the perfect state which was brought about by the action of Lucifer. Lucifer couldnt have taken God unawares or did he? Neither would he have been able to conceive rebellion if God did not allow him, or would he?

4. should we say that since God is eternal including his nature(both love and judgment/wrath) hence the eternal torment that he provided for the wicked. Wiping the eternal torment out will then mean wiping a nature of God out of existence, which is impossible. By this I mean that God is not man that he can change his nature and since his nature remains eternal therefore he cant afford to wipe the eternal torment out. (pls keep in mind that the issue here is not about eternal torment but about God's nature).

5. Will it be wrong for one to say that heaven and hell are a manifestation of God's nature. While heaven manifests his loving nature, hell manifests his judgment/wrath nature and since God's nature is eternal then this two places must exist eternally?(Let me pls remind us that his judgment.wrath is not only made manifest in hell but even in this world).

Brethren can contribute on the issues raised so far while waiting for the concluding part. God bless everyone.

To be continued.......

PAGAN 9JA:


In the Gods that we have forsaken.

NativeBoy:

If we could write, where are our texts? More importantly, why then is the writing of our language romanized? Meaning, we use the same alphabets that originated from Rome.

Also, if you are talking about our ancestors having knowledge of spiritual things, knowledge of herbs and medicines, etc. That is true. But if you are talking about institutions of formal education/formal training (except those of artisans), then you are mistaken.

It is interesting that you mention Rome and its influence on Britain. I think you will find that much as been written about the effects of Christianity on Rome and its subsequent effects in civilizing the barbarian races (i.e. Britain, the scandinavian nations, etc). I don't want to derail this thread so I won't go on. It's information that is readily available.

You can't get rid of the gospel but even if you could, it wouldn't solve Africa's problems.

O.T.I.S:


a nearby pentecostal minion would say you are possessed and need deliverance.
the problem is that the brainwashed are the majority. imagine a continent where even the rulers are in churches and mosques praying god to change things..if the rulers lack ingenious methodical ideas to effect changes, my question is how much can the illuminated minority accomplish? we still have a long way to go...

Mynd_44:
Obviously you need to understand what I wrote more. Do you ask someone you don't know a lot about out just cos you have a crush on him or her?

Mynd_44: How about you walk up to him or her and ask to be friends?

Gombs: Oh! Really?

Cheers01:
Bros...posting links to facebook groups do not work.

Infact, many Africans are awake but are they willing to do something about it? When money and personal benefit come into play, many who are awake choose to do nothing.

macof: The issue is that many Africans are too brainwashed into these foreign ideas that they even think their ancestors were no good cave men.

I recently read an article on the Portuguese trades with West African Empires and It stated a lot of good about our people right from the 16th century, The Portuguese compared the major cities to wat they had back home, They appreciated the level at which our people were organized and controlled the cities, The architecture was also greatly admired. But wat do you hear from Africans today? Wat do we even see in movies set at those period? We see bush men living around Forest with abominable buildings.

Wat impression do we give to our traditional priests? how much do Africans know their history? How much do they even believe their history?
Many dont give up on claiming Arab or Hebrew origin.

There's a big problem in Africa and if we don't fight this problem we are Doomed
We shouldn't encourage this foreign tools of mental slavery upon our people, We should fight them strategically and restrict their movements in our land.

If only there's constitutional empowerment and encouragement for those who are free from this Disease.
If only People in Power and those in high positions could show just a little patriotism, pride and love in our identity there would be less corruption, less terrorism.

Let our history be known
Let our traditions be known
Let our language be known
Show the Good and Original side of Africa

PAGAN 9JA:


Tell me, how many of you them are ready to hold down your their pastor and pis.s on his face?

sadly, very few. .

PAGAN 9JA:
Good ANalysis Dk Jaleel.

The point is that monotheism is the more obvious way of thinking or conceptualizing God.

Yet why is is that all our World Ancestors sought after Polytheism Its because THAT is the truth.

Before Judaism, the entire World was Polytheistic.


Spirituality is infinite. How can you limit it to one God

The Gods are infinite. We humans worship those Gods that affect us or we are aware of.

The common ones being the Creator, Fertility, etc.

To limit the Spiritual Forces to one entity wouldn't make sense.

uj_sizzle: Toning= Polish

Bleaching= Dye

Paroman: ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻧﻴﺔ ﺗﺘﺸﺮﻑ ﻣﺆﺳﺴﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻚ ﻋﺒﺪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺃﻥ ﺗﻌﻠﻦ ﻋﻦ ﺇﻃﻼﻕ ﺍﻟﺒﺮﻧﺎﻣﺞ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﻮﻯ ﻟﻠﻤﻨﺢ ﺍﻟﺪﺭﺍﺳﻴﺔ ﻣﺘﺪﺭﺏ )ﻟﻠﻤﺤﺎﺳﺒﻴﻦ -ﻭﺍﻟﺨﺮﻳﺠﻴﻴﻦ -ﻭﺍﻟﻄﻠﺒﺔ ( ﻟﺸﻬﺎﺩﺓ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺳﺐ ﺍﻟﻤﺎﻟﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺘﺮﻑ ﺏ ﺷﻬﺎﺩﺍﺕ ﻣﻌﺘﻤﺪﺓ ﺑﺄﺧﺮ ﻣﺤﺎﺿﺮﺓ ﺑﺎﻟﻜﻮﺭﺱ -1ﺷﻬﺎﺩﺓ ﻣﻌﺘﻤﺪﺓ ﻭﻣﺨﺘﻮﻣﺔ ﺑﺨﺘﻢ ﺍﻟﻨﺴﺮ.y do u now understand?

CallMeFemi: I'm so much in love with this lady... She's beautiful, smart, great sense of humor... Almost perfect... But I don't seem to understand her... She makes me feel unwanted...
(well if she really does love me...she's not showing it) nd I aint down for that shiii
And life is too short to start loving the wrong ppl....

Pls I need an advice on how I can stop lovin her...
Each time I try its like I'm fighting a lost battle...

...I'm too fine to settle for less... Pls help

CallMeFemi: I'm so much in love with this lady... She's beautiful, smart, great sense of humor... Almost perfect... But I don't seem to understand her... She makes me feel unwanted...
(well if she really does love me...she's not showing it) nd I aint down for that shiii
And life is too short to start loving the wrong ppl....

Pls I need an advice on how I can stop lovin her...
Each time I try its like I'm fighting a lost battle...

...I'm too fine to settle for less... Pls help

Monjie: I observe its an addition,the only solution is the blood of Jesus. Its spiritual,so cry to God for help,he will help you. He helped me from harmful habits. I am praying for you as well.