₦airaland Forum

Is FCT a state or not a state? If its a state, it should have the attributes of a state. Why are we complicating things in Nigeria?

FCT is given a status just like some US states with higher electoral college votes than others. Eg California

rtdCivilservant:
Oga u talked about common sense, but u have failed to apply it... Why on earth will anyone that is sane think fct vote is superior to any other state? What is wrong with some people in this country? If Abuja's vote becomes superior to other state, then where is our democracy which preaches equity, that everyone's vote is equal? What system of government do we call that?

Adeleke lost at the appeal court....Supreme Court is where finality resides

duro4chang:
Their action here is like the last kick of a dying horse.

Sounding like you miss them

Omoawoke2:
I noticed too, sanity has returned temporarily. Even twitter has gained some level of sanity.

Those guys are real pigs. They are doing group meeting currently and are cooking new stories and strategy which will be completely devoid of common sense and logic as always

How come you guys are still not happy?

Acekidc4:
Tribunal have save us from Noise Pollution!! See as everywhere for Nairaland quiet!! Their body don finally Calm down.

So you wanna decide national progress because of the threat of an unknown individual?

Biodun556:
No perfect way out.

I have a video where Peter Obi supporter promised Peter Obi in his presence to hack inec website

This thread is supposed to be for intellectual discussion so people can learn. Not fight for politicians all the time

Ofunaofu:
So that you don't accused me of distortion

Do you think if you have any certificate issue today, you'll be spared?

Why make things easy for politicians when they cannot reciprocate the slack citizens normally give them?

AntiWailer:
Technical Knock out.


They dont av to even investigate it at all.

RULES are RULES.

You nailed it!

skj1377:
It was actually a very stupid argument. But honestly I strongly believe Peter obi won majority of votes cast in the last election. The issue is he had no structure and relied heavily on the integrity of INEC.

Why not argue it here?

Ofunaofu:
Kindly save your self this foolishness and go read the supreme court judgement between Obasanjo and Buhari in 2003

The points raised by the op are spot on.

The judiciary spoke from both sides of their mouth just to please one criminal

We are talking of snapped results sheets.

If it can be hacked, shouldn't we put more security rather than reverting back to the old system where results are changed overnight in collation centers?

Biodun556:
Electronic transmission of results two can be manipulated. The system can be hacked. No perfect way out.

People even inherit tribal quarrels

Why was the electoral act ammended in 2022?

gawu1:
In what way did INEC's shooting down its IREV affect the first-time voters' candidate votes?

That is one of the questions your Pandora yes daddy religion bigot lawyers could not provide answers to that you now have to resort to abuses of the imminent judges for doing their job.

Ok...you've been noticed. Now run along

LordviccoDaGuru:
My WhatsApp number is there via my signature u can mgs me privately by sending ur account details lemme surprise you with money to buy food

You know INEC is a fraud and that they intentionally shutdown the IREV but you know why no govt institution work? Because we make excuses for them.

If you create an avenue to revert back to the old system if the new one fails, the new one will never work if it will affect powerful persons.

It is for this reason that the refineries are not working.

The CBN uses electronic transfers, how come people are not hacking the cbn and transferring billions?

Biodun556:
It is wrong for inec to put all their fish in one basket

What if the internet fails, or all the electronic gadgets pack up?

It will lead to chaos and mess up all the electoral process.

It makes sense when the system is flexible and allows inec to have alternatives to avoid hiccups

You can screenshot urs if you like.

LordviccoDaGuru:
Let's screenshot our bank account balance and see who is more richer

I earn in $. You're a learner!

LordviccoDaGuru:
I just received my monthly stipend today send ur account details lemme surprise you with money to buy food

Bubu did this kind of propaganda in his first term but after 8yrs, the people that were helping him to spread the propaganda said they inherited a dead economy.

Thubv is truly Bubu pro max!

Is Nigeria working?

Kusu12:
Make we rest abeg! because your messiah lost means Nigeria will not work? Obidots and emotional intelligence are far apart. Obingo that failed woefully to perform in Anambra State for 8years. Deluded obidot.

Obi and Tinubu are not comparable interms of uprightness.

Tinubu is not liked because he is super corrupt and shady. If you mention Obasanjo, tell me if he doesn't have more Igbo supporters than Yorubas

yoruboid:
Yorubas are still the least tribalistic Nigerians.

I remember when Turai Yar Adua was trying to sideline Jonathan it was the Yorubas that fought for him.

Today Obi has more Yoruba supporters than Tinubu has Igbo supporters. And Obi’s Yoruba supporters are even more passionate than his Igbo supporters.

Obi had more votes in Yorubaland than he did in the north but then it’s the Yorubas that Igbos have decided to consider their enemies.

Regardless of what you think of Obi vs Tinubu, people can choose to support any candidate they want and you have no right to adduce it to tribalism.

Absolutely. A country where corruption is over 90% cannot work

Germannig:
Copied:
Ten reasons why Nigeria will never ever work (yes, you heard me, I mean never ever).
1. The average citizens are only slightly different than their leaders. What Tinubu did with the judiciary yesterday, the average Nigerian would do at his own level. For most, it's a matter of the right opportunity to unleash their own interests. That's why many are happy or indifferent with the verdict.
2. Nigerians are the most tribalistic people on earth. In this case of Tinubu vs Atiku vs Obi, the Yoruba have championed tribalism and taken it to the rooftop. In other cases it is others, such as with the Fulani and Buhari in the last 8 years. Tribalism precludes rational thinking
3. Nigerians are religious fanatics. This is absolutely worse with the Muslims than with others. Religious fanaticism precludes rational thinking. No Need for further discussion on this.
4. The average Nigerian is mentally convoluted. They reason with their stomach, rather than with their brain. This is why politicians manipulate their greed, which surprisingly runs so shallow they could be manipulated with a mere $1 (N1000) bribery. It's called stomach infrastructure
5. The average Nigerian is impoverished. This is a deliberate state-sponsored ploy by leaders to perpetuate point 4 above.
6. The average Nigerian is grossly uneducated in the civic matters that anchor or foundation nation building
7. Nigerians, both rich and poor, are me-first driven. There is no collective with them. Societies that work must be collective.
8. Nigerians are very fleeting, ephemeral, and complacent. A combination of these 3 qualities means weak foundations. Any surprises nothing works in Nigeria?
9. Nigerians lack political ideologies. That's why politicians run from one party to another.
10. One of the worst of all, because this speaks to the quality of the individual humans. A lot of Nigerians lack the mental capacity to discern issues. That's why they are easily the most brainwashed people on earth. They are brainwashed with just about anything: religion, tribe, culture, politics, tokenism, peer factor, fake speech, social media, etc

Bonus point:
11. The Nigerian constitution is warped. That's why the judiciary comes up with different verdicts for similar cases. This creates the notion that Nigeria is a lawless country where some are above the law.

If the Supreme Court does not sack Thuvb,
his illegitimate govt will never be accepted except in SW!

helinues:
Should incase you missed some of the judgements, the below thread should help.

So all the claims of winning here and there was just imaginary as the petitioners couldn't point out to where precisely they were rigged, the number of discrepancy votes, what they could have received and how they arrived at that.

No mandate was missing not to talk of stolen, infact na the person claiming of his mandate being stolen na him be the real election snatcher

https://www.nairaland.com/7830496/pept-judgement-heavy-blow-started

First time voters who INEC promised their votes would be transmitted in real-time but INEC shutdown IREV on the D day

Biodun556:
Many of them are first time voters who expect their candidates to win at all cost - Femi Falana

No 5billion was ever released. Money released so far is 2billion

GeneralPula:
The oil-rich state is said to have over five million population as of 2016.

They’re not much. 5B can deliver more than 100,000 bags of rice Mr. happy hour..

Even if you say we have no case, k does not means we dont have the right to appeal

crossbreedwears:
All i know is LP has no case or have concrete evidence they won the election.

Yes but IREV must happen immediately after counting at the polling units. Is this too much to ask?

BreconHills:
You need two things for that

1. A new voting device
2. Amendment of the electoral act especially where it related to the EC series documention and their processes.

Until then you have automatic accrediting, manual voting, manual recording and manual collation and finally e -display on irev.

It's very simple to understand.

You do realize VAR is just a referee in a room that can rewind to see what happened slowly then communicate with the referee right?

VAR is video assisted referee....its a human being, not entirely aachine like IREV

Jsucre:
sometimes VAR dey malfunctioning during march

So you werent expecting that it'll end in the Supreme Court?

crossbreedwears:
Let me assume this is a joke

Na wa for una o...all the cases he won was at the Supreme Court meaning he lost at the lower courts

studycenter:
Source:https://landinggist.com/politics/tribunal-verdict-obi-s-confident-a-punch-in-the-wind/

nlfpmod seun lalasticlala

No need to read your shortsightedness

sukkot:
So in life they say believe half of what you see or hear. They also say the world is a stage and we are all actors.

So we all know how if not for the dissenting diversion of Peter obi away from PDP that party which would have flawlessly and easily won that election was splintered as obi took away all the southern supporters of the party thereby rendering the strongest contender , PDP, now incapacitated and weakened. It was an act of saboteur of epic proportions. It’s like a colossus crumbling from within. And I studied this and somehow knew Peter obi did not have the clout to pull off what he did. He just does not have that clout. There is no way a Peter obi can saunter into an established party like the labor party and just take over. It’s impossible. There is a mastermind behind him pulling all the buttons. Who stands to gain from this arrangement of him diverting all the Igbo and south south votes of PDP ? The mastermind Tinubu. And so the plan was hatched and flawlessly executed

After the plan was flawlessly executed and the deed was done I saw obi screaming for his lost mandate and seeking redress at the tribunal and this confused me. Was I wrong about he and tinubu concocting this whole scheme ? He seems genuinely aggrieved about losing his lost mandate. I was very confused. But then everrtthing clicked for me today after viewing Aisha yesufus post today saying we need more funds from our donators and we are going to the Supreme Court. It all fell into place. The arrangement he has with tinubu in return for what he did for him is that he has to have a way to legitimately launder and keep all the billions of Nairas donated by obedients and stopping abruptly after the loss would have caused the obedients to ask what is happening to all the money we donated ? And so tinubu has allowed them to do this charade as a return favor and that’s why they have damn near 100 lawyers etc lol. They are using this charade to launder the obedients funds and yes guys get ready for another round of SUPREME COURT malarkey because those billions of Naira have to be spent to zero. Aisha yesufu will buy 10 mansions when this whole charade is over

FEAR POLITICIANS LOL

We actually want to waste our time and resources.

We also want the judgement to be set as precedence and there's no better place for precedence to be set good or bad.

We want the Supreme Court to say INEC can change the mode of transmission during election.

We want them to say Thuvb drug case was targeting his accounts and not him

We want them to say Guinean citizenship was not included initially

We want them to say IREV and electronic transmission is optional

We want them to say you can forge your certificate

We want them to say a political party cannot sue another whether pre or post election

We want them to say even if you supply INEC certify true copies, you still need polling unit witness and EC8s tendered

We want them to say you must prove polling unit by polling unit upto 100 thousand even if you have 2 months.

Once the Supreme Court upholds these dangerous precedence, then we can rest but we will not rest before then!

Parachoko:
On what basis will the Supreme Court remove Asiwaju?

Tell me please