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Ofcourse he needs their support, but as a candidate, he is the only one with capacity to defeat APC

princdebola201:
atiku cant do it alone. He needs some of the PDP govs like he enjoyed majority of their backing in 2018

Overreaction as usual. Must everything be extreme?

People that hate western education looking for reason not to go to school

Atiku remains the shortest route to Igbo presidency. Even the other nationalities insulting Igbos know this.

Focus on this argument and stop being sentimental.

You know after becoming president with fake certificates, it's over yet you're trying to deceive by saying the law always catches up with them. Who among the past presidents has the law caught up with?

FreeStuffsNG:
It's obvious you couldn't comprehend my post I will not get into your usual negative mindsets.
All the enemies of Nigeria will lose las las. They always lose. May God bless Nigeria forever.

Who is this Ogunlewe that has turned to parrot because of small incentive from bullion?

Past presidents of Nigeria have everlasting immunity so saying the law would catch up with them after using fake certificates is you being naive

FreeStuffsNG:
Technically, no crime is statute-barred. If you use fake certificates, if electoral law does not catch you, the criminal laws will catch you whether while in office or after office. In my opinion, the NA just wasted their time legislating on it.
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Atiku will get it. Only Atiku has the capacity to defeat APC! The PDP gov forum know this, unless they've settled for defeat

princdebola201:
oga that 2019 scenario is no longer obtainable today.
Atiku rode on the division of pdp govs in 2019 to win primary election.
Majority of atiku delegates came from south east,because then they had 3 govs and deputy senate president, while okowa,dickson,ayade work against wike candidate

Today wike have worked on his mistakes and was able to succeed in uniting all PDP govs under one cause. The pdp govs forum were able to sweep aside the general boys e.g saraki,atiku from convention and congress.

Atiku ,saraki,kwankaso fate has long been decided by the PDP gov forum.
The ticket is now between bala Mohammed and Tambuwal

From 1960 to now is a very long time. Does that not tell you this one Nigeria cannot work with Igbos in it? Why then do you oppose Biafra so Igbos can go, since from your comments Igbos are majorly responsible for Nigeria problems?

Can two walk unless they agree? We can't continue this macabre dance for long. There's no trust among us and it doesn't matter who's responsible, we're just not meant to be compatriots

Deadlytruth:
Ahmadu Bello's boast about Nigeria becoming the estate of his forefathers and the prospect of dipping the Koran into the Atlantic Ocean predated the Civil war and he made that declaration 10 days after Igbos handed him political power in 1960 on a platter of gold. That threat is what you see being implemented today through Fulani Herdsmen menace.




APC was not the people's choice in Imo and Ebonyi but imposed by the Supreme Court and Umahi's defection respectively hence the unrest in Imo and the hatred for Umahi in Ebonyi despite his breathtaking performance with very lean resources.
Agreed that not all Igbos are in PDP but the few ones in APC are an endangered species among the majority in PDP. Joe Igbokwe's house was recently burnt down in Nnewi and he was warned against visiting home for Christmas all because he is in the APC. An aide to Hope Uzodinma was recently caught and tortured with naked flames for being in APC. In fact Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob are pro-PDP.

Fulani herdsmen menace started in 2009 in Plateau State during the Yaradua-Jobathan PDP era. So you arguement here is watered down. Contrary to your other claim, your fellow Igbo monickers don't agree with you for they are of the opinion that with 40% votes for Buhari in 2015, Edo was responsible for bringing Buhari and that insane reasoning is what made me register on NL with the mission to ask how that makes sense in democracy and to expose how Igbos have always aligned with the Fulanis at independence, again in 1979 and once more in 1999 and thereby destroying the much needed unity in the South to put Fulanis where they should belong.


Neither do you Igbos alone have such population to cause them damage. The Southern unity needed to do that was eroded by Igbos at independence and that remains the bane of the South till today.

Read comments above, the people serap is fighting for are the ones making mockery of the. Somehow they believe anybody or organization that attacks Bubu government is Igbo affiliated so even if it's for their interests, they'd condemn it.

You mean the Igbos that lost the civil war is the one responsible for the fulani herdsmen killing Nigerians across the nation?

Is APC not in IMO? Is Hope Uzodinma not being insulted by Igbos? What about Okorocha and Umahi? Is PDP not the government in Edo state? What about Oyo state?

Are all Igbos PDP? My friend you've no point. The fact that you blamed Igbos for Fulani herdsmen who got empowered when SW aligned with the North(PDP won Edo in 2015 so una nor follow) to bring Bubu shows the hatred for Igbos which you're trying hard to deny.

Ofcourse you cannot say you won't vote Fulani because you don't have the population to cause them damage.

Deadlytruth:
I can show you links to over 20 threads on NL in which Igbos, without any provocation, launched a tirade of insults against Edo for voting for APC in several state and federal elections. I can also show you that in which they took Bayelsa to the cleaners for voting for David Lyon. But you can never find a thread in which an Edo person set sail insults against the Igbo for voting PDP consistently.

On the issue of Fulanis menace, our attitude to them is relatively passive not because we have any soft spot for them but because we believe that their attainment of invincibility and above the law status was caused by the Igbos' rejection of the proposed all-South alliance at independence which would have crushed their born-to-rule philosophy in the bud and place them at the low level they should have belonged in an ideal Nigeria.
You yourself can't refute the fact that If Igbos had let reason prevail over sentiments in the 1960 alliance issue, the Fulanis would have been nothing today in a Nigeria where merit alone rules amidst strict regionalism, resource control and decentralized police which would have curtailed the excesses of the Fulani normads .

What about Bubu, the undisputed heavyweight champion of incompetence?

The East will be victorious!

Igbos have no issues with Edo or Bayelsa,
never have. You're just making stuff up to suit your narrative. Igbos and SS including Edo normally vote the PDP in presidential elections so I really don't know what you're talking about.

All this complaints of insult is BS, everybody insults everybody on Nairaland. I have never heard you guys say you won't vote Fulanis for the killings and rapings by Fulani herdsmen. So you rate mutual insulting more than one-sided killing of Fulanis across Nigeria?

Obviously you're looking to give a dog a bad name so you can hang it

Deadlytruth:
Wrong. No one hates Igbo for continuously voting for PDP. Like you rightly observed, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Rivers, Bayelsa have been voting for PDP but that doesn't attract any resentment towards them because their right to freedom of choice is respected. The difference however is that Igbos'don't respect the rights of others to vote any party of their choice. Look how Igbos' on NL deployed massive hate rhetorics against Edo for five good years because Edo chose to be ruled by APC on account of PDP's unprecedented failure in the state between 1999 and 2007. Even fellow SS states never resented Edo over that choice but Igbos' carried the matter on their heads as if they were more SS than the SS people themselves. Likewise, when Edo gave just 40% to Buhari in 2015 in reaction to Jonathan's marginalization of the state and servitude to Northern interests despite Edo State people were at the forefront of the intellectual and publicity aspects of the SS struggle for resource control and restructuring for which Jonathan was voted in by the whole South, Igbos' went all out against Edo State calling it unprintable names all over social media and labelling Edo as a NC and SW state even when the Bayelsa people and other SS states didn't show any resentment over that as they had not forgotten the pivotal role which Edo State natives owned AIT and Channels TV played in the struggle for the SS question. Even recently when Bayelsans decided to vote against PDP in the last guber election won by David Lyon, Igbos began to make derogatory remarks which were outrightly insultive on Bayelsans. This was what no other SS state ever attempted. Even Wike the main Bastion of PDP in the SS and the Governor of the closest sister state to Bayelsa wouldn't dare insult Bayelsans for that choice. But Igbos' carried it on their heads. Also, when Ben Ayade defected to the APC, Igbos' cried more than Cross River people. Then, even now that the situation of disappointment currently playing out in Edo State has compelled the slim majority that voted for Obaseki into regrets over their fall for the anti-godfatherism narrative, Igbos have continued chanting the Edo-No-Be-Lagos slogan more than Edo people themselves. Even Wike who deployed all his election arsenal to Edo State that day is now very perturbed by the attempts by Obaseki to upstage him in PDP relevance.
This attitude of Igbos minding the business of other regions more than theirs once it comes to PDP vs other parties tussle is what breeds the resentments against them and it is why they are asked to stick with that PDP as far as their 2023 ambition is concerned.

When a country is under cursed leadership, everything suffers!

Thought you guys said Tunisia were afraid because they talked of covid. Yeye dey smell

You can laugh now but you've got it coming!

OneTwoOne:
You contribute NOTHING to the Federal treasury you're leech to Nigeria as a country.

You're being kept in Nigeria just to punish you

You'll be here till Jesus come

If you go through the thread, a lot of you guys have shown tremendous hate towards Ndigbo, this hate you justify with flimsy reasons. Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta have been voting pdp alongside Igbos but only Igbos are attacked because of their perceived supremacy.

A time is coming when this gang up will be reversed. It's good that you guys are saying over your dead body will Igbos get the presidency, that way Igbo leaders know there's nothing for then in Nigeria and see the existential need to support Biafra

Deadlytruth:
My unanswered question remains; why are Igbos' afraid of demanding 2023 ticket as a moral obligation from the PDP which they have served blindly, and in defense of which they have insulted all other tribes and made numerous enemies for themselves for the last 23 years?
There is no single tribe or any other party which Igbos have not insulted and called unprintable names in their loyalty and self destructive love for the PDP all in the hope that the party would on account of all that reward it with her 2023 ticket.
When in 2014 APC extended to them an olive branch that could have seen an Igbo man clinch the 2023 ticket of the party, they rejected it with very vehement insults like Amala Ewedu Islamic party of Arewanistan almajiris and so on at a time when the PDP they thought they were defending was not only a party that was founded by the same Fulanis they claimed to hate, but also wasn't making any commitment whatsoever to an Igbo presidency. Southern States that voted for APC got labelled as traitors by Igbos' even through there was no pan-Southern accord to vote for PDP.
PDP developed to a fully fledged religion in Igbo land so much that even their own better performing indegenous APGA had to battle against the forces of extinction within the SE on account of the strong wind of the non-performing PDP blowing all over the entire region. Even till today the average Igbo man hates APC without any recognizable cogent reason despite APC undertaking in their region projects which their beloved PDP only undertook on Corel draw and power point. So where exactly have they suddenly found this moral courage to start seeking the 2023 ticket of the same Arewanistan Amala Ewedu Islamic almajiri party to the near total ignoring of that of the PDP in which they have invested all their emotional capital in a manner of all eggs in a basket since 1999? If PDP is shy of zoning her 2023 ticket to the region that has so willingly slaved for it and stoically sacrificed blindly for it, then APC will be very naive to hand her own ticket to such a people. It only means PDP is either being plain selfish or that there is something sinister they have seen as regards the SE having her ticket.

In hindsight, shouldn't Bubu have lost?

How long do you think Nigeria can go on marginalising the Igbos? Very soon the Igbo leaders will realise there's nothing for them in Nigeria, then Biafra becomes clearer

eeetuk:
"South-East will not accept vice-presidential slots from any political party in the 2023 presidential race, prominent Igbo leaders have told Sunday Vanguard."

Ibo in any presidential ticket is a liability, period.
Buhari hired Ibo as his vice president and lost
Vice president Atiku Abubakar hired Ibo as his vice president and lost
Therefore, putting Ibo in any presidential ticket is a loss proposition

When I say Igbos are hated across Nigeria, the non Igbos would say nobody hates Igbos.

Pat Utomi is a very gentle and disciplined man without controversy, yet, look at they way they're insulting him for saying he'd contest if asked to by Igbos. Just by identifying as Igbo, the hatred has gotten to him

Is Delta a tribe? What language does he speak?

Otunbakolawole0:
Last I checked, Utomi is delta. Is he Igbo now?

Common na, I know you're a matured lady and you talk maturedly and that's why I want to know why you said that.

Amotolongbo:
Cos it is for you

Madam, why do you think the post is immature?

Amotolongbo:
Who wanna advise an immature mind before

Anybody that conspires to bring OUK as Igbo candidate for president hates Ndigbo!

Peter Obi or Moghalu are the only credible candidates, others would be a calculated attempt to ridicule Ndigbo by bring incompetent people so they can say Igbo man ruled and nothing changed

If the election is near credible, Tinubu won't get more than 55% in Lagos!

mrvitalis:
Osibanjo yes ...but tinubu can't get 60% of votes in Lagos even relax

The youths have shown to be bigger criminals! Vote for personalities rather than age!

haconjy:
Truly, we have only two (PDP, APC) party in Nigeria. But how I wish Nigeria Youth can have their own party against these parties?

It's not about Ibori, Delta is PDP and PDP is Delta!

Praxis758:
APC's calculation to take over Delta state is gassy dream.

Ibori has a cult-like loyalists in that state.

Omo-Agege knows that since Bubu is leaving, e nor sure for am again

By the time electronic voting comes into play, then you'll know who is who.

doctokwus:
Saying there are more Ibos outside the SEast than there are in the region itself is just pure hogwash and shouldn't be repeated by anyone that passed through basic school.
As per 30% of Lagos population is just one of those beer parlor tales that should be asserted after a proper study or census.
The Hausas will also come out tomorrow to lay claim to another 30%, meanwhile the Yorubas will pump out their chest and tell u they make up 80%.

The first shall be the last.

tamdun:

I don almost forget say pdp dey d race, na Tinubu dey trend at the moment

The yam tuber is supplying the food to grow. This is why it's growing indoors without sunlight and water for photosynthesis

Go to any state in Nigeria, after the indigenes of that state, Igbos come next by population. How many Igbo do you think stay in the SW? In Lagos, Igbos would be upto 30% of the population at least

DubaiLandLord2:
This is pure gibberish.

The interest is for PDP to win first, then other things would follow. It's only people who're not strategic that wouldn't do first things first

oyatz:
Politics is all about interests.


If the Interests of Ndigbo is just for the PDP to win the presidential election, please let us all respect this interest.