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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:14pm On Dec 16, 2016
But this powerful nation was also to be divided, as verse twenty-four indicates, “And the ten horns
out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise.” Please notice that this is God’s interpretation of the ten horns on this animal. Rome would be divided into ten distinct areas. By following the course of history we discover that the exact fulfillment did come in the year 476 A.D. Fierce tribes came sweeping down from the north country, and overwhelmed the territory of Western Europe, dividing it finally into ten parts. Those parts, of course, correspond to the ten toes of the great image of Daniel 2. All students of history are well acquainted with
the names of those tribal conquerors of Western Europe in 476 A.D. They were the Anglo-Saxons, Alemanni, Heruli, Vandals, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Suevi, Lombards, Burgundians and Franks.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:11pm On Dec 16, 2016
The Terrible Fourth Beast

Now let us notice the rise of the fourth beast, which is “the fourth kingdom upon earth.” Verse 23. Although Daniel had seen living wild beasts like those portrayed in the first three prophetic symbols, he had never seen anything resembling the fourth terrible beast. This is the way the Bible describes it: “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it … and it had ten horns.” Verse 7. As we have already learned, this symbolizes the fourth world empire, which was the iron monarchy of Rome. The extension of its cruel domination of the earth has been well documented in the pages of ancient history.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:08pm On Dec 16, 2016
The four wings of the leopard denote the exceeding speed with which Alexander subdued the nations. Within eight years, he had completely subjugated the world and sat down to weep because there were no more worlds to conquer. But he could not conquer himself; he died as a young man of thirty-three at the height of his power. At his death the kingdom was divided among his four leading generals: Cassander, Lysimachus, Seleucus, and Ptolemy. The four heads of the beast represent those divisions of his empire. This brings us to the year 168 B.C. and the downfall of the Grecian empire in that very year. So far, every detail of the prophecy has been fulfilled exactly.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:05pm On Dec 16, 2016
The bear is raised up on one side to represent the fact that Persia was stronger than the Medes. Those two powers were allied together in their domination of the earth. The three ribs probably symbolize the three provinces of that kingdom— Babylon, Lydia, and Egypt. Then in 331 B.C. Medo-Persia went down, and the third world empire arose. According to the prophecy, “dominion was given to it.” Verse 6. It was “like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads.” Verse 6. Any schoolboy who has studied his lessons carefully in ancient history will know that Greece arose as the next world ruler. Alexander the Great came marching from the west, laying the world at his feet in a very short time.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:02pm On Dec 16, 2016
Four Empires of History

Will you take a closer look at these animals, one by one, as they arose in the prophet’s vision? The first was “like a lion and had eagle’s wings.” Daniel 7:4. Here we have represented that grand empire of Babylon, so well symbolized by the king of beasts. It was one of the wealthiest, strongest nations ever to exist on the earth. Notice that this animal has wings. Wings are used in prophetic terminology to symbolize speed. And sure enough, Babylon arose very quickly to take its place as a ruler of the entire world. From 606 B.C. until 538 B.C. Babylon continued to exercise her extensive authority. But a change was to take place. Daniel saw the second beast, “like unto a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it.” Daniel 7:5. After Babylon came the kingdom of Medo-Persia in 538 B.C., the second world empire.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:59pm On Dec 16, 2016
Just as we have the American eagle and the Russian bear in our modern political vocabulary, God used animals long, long ago to represent countries also. Then, to be more explicit, God added this in verse 23, “The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth.” If the fourth animal represented the fourth empire of history, then the first three would have to represent the first three empires. This explanation becomes more simple and clear when we remember that there have only been four world empires in the earth since the days of Daniel. These kingdoms are referred to often in Bible prophecy and are called by name in some related prophecies of Daniel. Refer to Daniel 8:20, 21 and Daniel 11:2 for examples of this. In the second chapter of Daniel the same four world
kingdoms are symbolized by four metals in the great statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. Those four empires are Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:57pm On Dec 16, 2016
Please notice that Daniel had a vision very similar to that of John. It is described in Daniel 7:2, 3: “Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.” He saw the prophetic water just as John did, but Daniel saw four beasts arising instead of only one. We have already found out that water symbolizes peoples or multitudes, but what do the animals represent? The answer is found in verse 17, “These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.” There it is. So plainly worded that no one can question or doubt! God says that animals in prophecy represent nations.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:53pm On Dec 16, 2016
Everything in the Bible description of the beast is symbolic. Consider the water, for example, out of which the animal arises. What does it represent? Read the answer in Revelation 17:15, “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest … are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” There can be no quibbling over this point. God clearly explained the meaning of water in prophecy. Once the symbol is interpreted in any prophecy, the rule will apply in every other prophecy. Water will always symbolize people in biblical prophetic imagery. Now, what about the other parts of the strange, apocalyptic beast? What do they represent? In order to understand the beast we must go back to the Old Testament book of Daniel and compare Scripture with Scripture. The books of Daniel and Revelation explain each other. They fit together like a hand and glove.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:50pm On Dec 16, 2016
A Symbolic Animal

Is it possible to understand the mark of the beast? Without fail, we can know and must know. But first we must understand the identity of the prophetic beast itself. Let us establish that this strange, composite animal is not to be taken literally. No one ever saw a creature with the body of a leopard, the mouth of a lion, and the feet of a bear. The prophetic books of the Bible usually deal in types and symbols. This beast represents something. But what does it symbolize? There must be no guessing here. The Bible does not leave any room for doubt. It serves as its own divine commentary and provides the key for understanding the prophecies.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:48pm On Dec 16, 2016
The average Christian has scarcely even heard about the urgency of this subject. He has not the faintest idea about the beast or his mark, even though his destiny hinges upon the issue. Multitudes of preachers comfort the people in their ignorance of this point. They say, “Don’t worry about the beast. It is too complicated to understand. As long as you love the Lord, you will be all right. You can’t really know who the beast is.” Listen, will God warn us about the fearful danger of this beast—a danger so deadly that it will mean life or death—and then tell us it is impossible to know what it is? Would He say to us, “You will be cast into the fire if you have the mark, but I’m not going to tell you what it is—it’s just too bad if you have it”? No, that is not like God. He warns us of a danger that can be avoided. We can know that we are safe from the beast only if we know who the beast is. We can know we are free from the mark only if we know what the mark is.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
Finally, those who have the mark will suffer the terrible wrath of God as described in Revelation 14:9, 10. The wrath of God is further defined in Revelation 15:1 in these words, “Seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.” The awful nature of those plagues and the extreme sufferings they visit upon those who receive the mark of the beast are fully revealed in the sixteenth chapter of Revelation. We will not dwell on them at this point in detail, but let us remind ourselves again that this issue will involve eternal life or death for all. How earnestly should we seek to understand who the beast represents and how we might avoid that mark! There must be no guesswork or speculation on this vital subject. We must know exactly where the danger lies and how to avoid it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:44pm On Dec 16, 2016
And they worshipped the dragon that gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”

We cannot fail to see here an unprecedented scale of opposition to God and those who follow Him. Later in this same chapter, we read that this beast power will exercise so much influence over the earth, that it causes men to receive a mark in their foreheads or hands (Revelation 13:16).

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:40pm On Dec 16, 2016
A Life or Death Issue Now, with this little background of the contenders, let us look closer at the biblical setting for the last decisive engagement in the great controversy. Please note that the beast of Revelation 13 symbolizes a gigantic antichrist power that attempts to displace God entirely. Here is the description of that power in the language of Revelation 13:1-7: “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:37pm On Dec 16, 2016
Every generation has witnessed a new manifestation of that evil power in its untiring warfare with Heaven’s program to save the world. The final form of the enemy opposition will be that of the beast of Revelation 13. That counterfeit power will be set up in deadly conflict with the commandments of God. The whole world will be called to take sides. The confederation of evil will consolidate for a desperate last-ditch struggle to engage the loyalty of earth’s inhabitants. The issues will be clearly revealed, and no one can remain neutral. Obedience to God or to Satan, as manifested through the beast power, will be the only alternatives open to man.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:35pm On Dec 16, 2016
No more was the fallen angel to be known as Lucifer, signifying “star of the morning,” but Satan which means “adversary.” The conflict had now been transferred from heaven down to this earth. Here it will continue until it reaches a desperate climax in the division of earth’s multitudes for or against the commandments of God. Just as the rebellion began by disloyalty to the authority of God, so it will end by a defiance of His authority as vested in the law of His government. Satan has been here with his evil angels from the time he was banished from the regions of light. With devilish cunning, he has experimented with successive forms of warfare against God and His plan for this world. Through various insidious approaches, he has continued his efforts to overthrow the authority of God. The purpose of this booklet is to expose the massive assaults that have been made, and are being made, by Satan against the foundations of truth.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:33pm On Dec 16, 2016
The seeds of that selfish revolt of one leading angel spread rapidly to affect the loyalty of other angels. Soon one third of the heavenly host had joined the disaffection of Lucifer, and the great controversy was under way—a controversy that was to rage for over 6,000 years, and which would finally demand the decision of every living creature in heaven and on earth. The immediate result of the discord was war in heaven that climaxed in the complete expulsion of Lucifer from the presence of God and the loyal angels. John describes it this way: “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:7-9.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:31pm On Dec 16, 2016
Two Powerful Contenders

Even though the climax in the great struggle takes place in the very end of human history when all the world is arraigned in two opposing camps, the controversy between Christ and Satan has been going on for almost 6,000 years. It started in heaven with the rebellion of Lucifer against God’s rule of the universe. The story of that beautiful angel who coveted the position of God Himself is revealed through a number of Old Testament prophetic writings. Isaiah says in reference to this glorious being: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Isaiah 14:12-14.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:28pm On Dec 16, 2016
For some reason the book called Revelation is counted a sealed book, instead of the obviously revealed truth that its name implies. But please note the promise made to those who search out the truth of this wonderful book, “Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.” Revelation 1:3. Before delving into John’s vivid account of that final clash between Christ and Satan, let us take time to examine the contestants in the conflict. When and how did it get started, and how will it end?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:26pm On Dec 16, 2016
The highest allegiance is accorded through the act of obedience. At last, the majority of earth’s inhabitants will accept the authority of an antichrist counterfeit power, in disobedience to God’s great ten commandment laws. Every individual will be on one side or the other. The Bible makes it very clear that life or death revolves around the final decision concerning the beast of Revelation 13. Strangely enough, modern theologians have simply ignored the warning message of Revelation 14, relating to the mark of the beast. The interest of multitudes has been destroyed by the influence of pastors who would not take seriously the solemn words of John’s prophecy. Often it is dismissed as a confused, insignificant letter, applying only to a local problem in the early church.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:23pm On Dec 16, 2016
After describing the fate of the false worshipers in Revelation 14:9-11, John has this to say in the very next verse: “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.” We see here a startling contrast between those who follow the beast and those who follow the Lamb. Please note that the issue revolves around the keeping of God’s commandments. Those who do not have the mark of the beast are described as obedient to those commandments, and the rest suffer the wrath of God. This agrees perfectly with Paul’s statement in Romans 6:16, “Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?”

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:21pm On Dec 16, 2016
For almost 6,000 years, His punishing judgments upon the most wicked men have been tempered with mercy. But now the measure of rebellion reaches a point which makes it necessary for God to intervene and to expose the terrible extent of man’s treason against God’s government. Right here we are curious to know more about the sin that provokes God’s strange act of fiery punishment. Notice that the final issue involves a false allegiance to the beast power, so often referred to in Bible prophecy. At last, the world shall stand divided into two great camps: those who worship the true God, and those who worship the beast of Revelation 13. But what issue leads to this massive division of the world’s people?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:15pm On Dec 16, 2016
I. THE BEAST AND HIS BACKGROUND - A Fearful Warning

The most fearful warning of punishment found anywhere in the Bible is contained in Revelation 14:9, 10: “And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.” This description is so alarming and so very unlike all other verses which deal with God’s character that we almost recoil in horror. But it points clearly to a time when God’s mercy will be withheld from those who have persistently rejected the authority of Heaven. It will be an unparalleled performance on the part of God in His relationship to the human family.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 10:13am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman, here:

DoctorAlien:
I will now show you that life has a universal meaning.

1. Why is life existing? If you can provide no answer, it means you agree that there is no purpose for life, and that there is no purpose for living. Therefore being alive is a waste of time.

But we are alive. And it follows that no human being, as a rule, engages in what he truly knows is a waste of time/of no purpose or benefit.

Therefore the universal meaning of life consists in actively trying to prove that one is not alive for no reason. In other words, we are alive to show that we are not alive for no reason, as atheists/nihilists claim.

But life has no meaning without GOD i.e. reason for living/meaning to life is found only in the Creator of life. Therefore universal meaning to life consists in acknowledging/worshiping GOD.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:59am On Dec 16, 2016
These are the words of a true atheist:

"I wish i was not born because my life was by chance. Chance brought me here so what then is the purpose to my life?"
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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:49am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:
A true christian is a mindless zombie and absolutely has no reason not to be one.
Don't tell me I'm conversing with a kid. You don't act peurile by throwing tantrums and ad hominems and mockeries when you have no solid, logical rebuttal to an argument.

Keeping quiet accords you much more dignity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:40am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:
Even with God life has different meanings to various religious people. The meaning of life for a Hindu is different to that of a muslim and both of them believe in God. So you see even with the Gods that allegedly created life, life has no universal meaning.
I will now show you that life has a universal meaning.

1. Why is life existing? If you can provide no answer, it means you agree that there is no purpose for life, and that there is no purpose for living. Therefore being alive is a waste of time.

But we are alive. And it follows that no human being, as a rule, engages in what he truly knows is a waste of time/of no purpose or benefit.

Therefore the universal meaning of life consists in actively trying to prove that one is not alive for no reason. In other words, we are alive to show that we are not alive for no reason, as atheists/nihilists claim.

But life has no meaning without GOD. Therefore we are alive to worship GOD.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:21am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:
Even on the thread by the atheist nihilistic grizlybear he called other atheists stupid for thinking life had any meaning. NOW THAT IS A TRUE ATHEIST. grin
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Of course. How can life have any meaning without the One who created it?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:01am On Dec 16, 2016
This not so much about the meaning of life: this is about the fact that atheism ====> nihilism.

A true atheist is a nihilist because there is absolutely no reason not to be one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 8:36am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:
U didnt answer the question.
Dats why U r choosing ad hominem.

because i laid bare your double mouth just within 2 paragraphs.

And u indirectly just said u live in a "delusion" like the religious people u and ur colleagues blast.

Its only a fool who will say man found himself on earth by accident and still claim that life has meaning. In case u dont know
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Antichrist? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:34am On Dec 16, 2016
Wilgrea7:
well the bitter truth is that, we're still pointing fingers... we as Christians don't even know for sure... there are certain people/group of people who “seem" to have fulfilled the prophecy.. meaning, Christians have a way of twisting these prophecies to suit someone so that they can label them the Antichrist.. the current guesses over the years have been

*emperor Nero
* the roman catholic church/pope
* Islam
*Obama
*UN
etc

we're just pointing fingers... we don't really know for sure
We know for sure who the antichrist truly is.

Do an extensive, thorough research involving Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 and history, and you will see that only one person on that list you gave fulfills ALL the attributes of the antichrist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 8:26am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:
Its left for you to study the humanist philosophy and chose whether to accept it or discard it based on its merits and demerits. I am.not the one to tell you what to do.
What if I have studied the humanist and found no merit in it? Can you list out to me the merits of humanism and why I should be a humanist?

You have given me no reason why I should be a humanist: therefore I should not be a humanist, if I were to be an atheist. Therefore nihilism is the only option left?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 8:11am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:
Atheism is simply the disbelief in the existence of Gods. Meaning can be found in various philosophies of life. An atheist can be a humanist for example. Religion isn't the only philosophy that gives life meaning. There are atheistic religions like Buddhism so you clearly do not even know what you are talking about by insinuating that atheism view life as meaningless. Many atheist subscribe to the buddist philosophy and strive to archive nirvana and they see that as the meaning and purpose of their lives.
Assuming I am to become an atheist today: why should I subscribe to a view like humanism?

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