lilodez:
How many EH here, contact your sources. The stories are not adding up.

The way you people use to say this 'contact your sources', am I the only one without a source?

TeddyX:


I don’t sugar coat to get public attention or praises.
What is the good news he brought please?
I respect Jarus but he seem to have take advantage of you guys. It’s not just Jarus that predicted last week and this week but some others did because COC was issued. Why cover up with those lies about leaked dates. There were those on DPR thread, the likes of tamihawt and Walush who posted specific dates for test and interview invites, along with APL dispatch dates. Their predictions came to pass.
One could tell that his prediction was based on what he felt would happen after COC was issued. I don’t care who you are or what you have achieved in life but If there’s any form of discrepancy or error in what you say or do, one has the right to question your character or motive. Let’s shun sentiments here.

Let's assume your claims are right... So because Jarus predictions was based on issuance of COC, he is looking for public attention and praise... Or that there is discrepancy or error in his predictions, his character and motive should be questioned? Like seriously!?


If you have issues with Jarus (@ bolded) or any other 'sauce', just come out plainly bro... Like I said earlier, I don't blame you, I blame the delay in APL release.

Regards,

TeddyX:


Nothing has been compromised.
Don’t blow things out of proportion.
Others have predicted correctly date of application commencement, test and interview schedules.
The real sources are quiet because of how they were insulted and disregarded. You guys like to be told what you wanna hear. Those you consider as sources have nothing to say because they’ve been out of the loop.
They will come here to give false hopes to stay relevant
Na only God and GMD be the original source, the rest na counterfeit.

As much as I don't like giving people like you attention, I just hope you really do listen to yourself. Just be talking left and right.


@ bolded... So we have been insulting GMD abi?
I really don't have much to say to you, at least not now. I blame the delay in APL release.

Regards,

GeNeRaToRBoi:
After all sources seem failed now and hope been lost, i think its high time Local Man joined the fantastic MUB along with Grupo to form a wonderful GGMUB (God Go Make Us Better).... This group issa set of people who have decided to face reality instead of living in fantasy,..

#Fieel free to join us

Guy, to say you will join MUB and Grupo is your choice... But to claim those guys are the ones facing reality and not living in fantasy is not correct. Maybe you haven't taken time to study what those people represent...

At the end of the day... It's still you to choose your reality... And choosing bitterness and hopelessness is a choice.

Regards,

I fear for our reasoning... How schizophrenic we can be. Even if other sources gave predictions that failed, I didn't expect any to doubt the integrity of Jarus just because the timeline he gave is almost over. You guys really play too much. Some are already giving him subtle jabs... Believing his source have failed, would fail or is failing.


What I know is that Jarus has proven his integrity and reliability. Even if APL isn't out by the end of the week shouldn't be a reason to throw jabs. He isn't the GMD. He has done so much for the thread; giving insight on the oil industry and NNPC recruitment process.

I would rather we appreciate him and keep our hope alive. I still believe in this recruitment.

Best regards

odinson1:


I'm not taking sides on the creation story or Big bang theory Because they are all speculations,theories and stories

But one of my arguments are which religion is actually true

If your argument is which religion is true... It therefore means that you believe in God, only that you aren't sure which. Are we in same page now?

odinson1:


The concept of hell
But,i do not claim God exists, neither do i claim he does not

If your problem is the concept of hell... Then it must come from the stand point of the existence of God but too good to send people to hell or no existence of God hence nothing like hell.


Which is yours so I know how to respond

odinson1:


The concept of hell
But,i do not claim God exists, neither do i claim he does not

So what's your argument? Why are we having this conversation? I need to know what the issue is so I know how to respond accordingly

Dolchi1:


It's not a concept. It's choice. You have the option not to be there. If you insist on being there just to prove God isn't loving, then it would still have been your choice.
Choose your choice.

Lastly... The concept of helped a place where people would keep burning for billions and billions and billions of years isn't in itself correct. But explaining it here would be beyond the scope of this argument. It's better taught to Christians.

modified

One more thing, is your problem now the concept of hell or the existence of God. I always love that we stay with an argument and derail less.

odinson1:


Giving Andrew a few strokes of the cane is nothing compared to eternal torture in a burning lake of fire

Why cant you understand that the concept of hell is cruel and wicked

It's not a concept. It's choice. You have the option not to be there. If you insist on being there just to prove God isn't loving, then it would still have been your choice.
Choose your choice.

Lastly... The concept of helped a place where people would keep burning for billions and billions and billions of years isn't in itself correct. But explaining it here would be beyond the scope of this argument. It's better taught to Christians.

odinson1:


No one says the big bang theory is real, it's just a theory
Same with the creation story, it was written in a book and you just believe it without asking logical questions about it

The real TRUTH is that no one actually is sure of anything..... because no proof

Firstly, I didn't postulate any story on creation. At least not yet.

Also check my post about, I have modified. However, the real TRUTH is that every creation has a beginning and a creator.

If you tell me your problem is which religion is true? Then you might be in the side of logic. But claiming you aren't sure if there is a creator of the universe (or multiverse as some claim) and the galaxies and everything in it... Claiming such would be illogical and unintelligent.


There's obviously a SOURCE. Science spend time trying to prove this outside God.

odinson1:


So a loving and caring father would Torture his children in a lake of fire for billions upon billions of centuries just because he didn't serve him

Would you be supporting the concept of hell if you were in hell right now
Answer this question pls

Please read my post and this time slowly...

A loving Father gave himself to save the word. Jesus (the one that proceeds from the father) became a man and would forever be a man just to save man. He would deny himself equality with God just to save man. What else do you want him to do.

And please you must define the word 'serve'. I never used it at least not yet.

He has done all that he can do for you. Forcing his salvation on you would be going against 'free will'.

The only thing we need to do is believe! Accept his payment for our sin.
No love is greater than that a man lay down his life for his friends (people he love).

The last analogy... When I was a Corper, I used to allow students receive cane on behalf of others. There are some students who had much pride. When other students offer to help, they wouldn't accept. Once a student (John) received the first stroke on behalf of another (Andrew). Andrew insisted that John didn't receive the cane for him. So I had to flog Andrew his complete strokes as though nobody helped him out even though in reality somebody did. Why was that? Because Andrew had a choice (free will). I would later find out that Andrew and John had a little quarrel earlier that day and as such didn't want the help of John.

odinson1:




If nothing can exists out of nothing, please explain to me how God came to be

And saying the holy spirit is in you is just a product if indoctrination..you don't feel,hear or see him but you just have faith that he is there

I need to be sure we are on same page together. Do you agree that something can't exist out of nothing or not?

If you agree that something can't exist out of nothing then your theories are flawed. Your Big Bang Theory and their likes would come to nothing.

And if you don't agree, I would need you to do some exegesis on how to create something out of nothing.


That said, Asking me how God came to be sounds foolish. Have you forgotten that we are talking of a God (creator)?

Please don't lose focus. Existence is defined by location and time. The moment you try to put something into space and time, that thing is now a creation and not a creator. God is the creator. He created time and space, how can you then try defining him from what wasn't existing before God.

So does God exist? Yes. In time? No. Hence the question when and how did God start existing is flawed


Modified

About the Holy Spirit, I feel him and hear him. But then that's not the basis of our interactions and his leading. When you exhibit the fruits and the gifts of the spirit, it's enough proof that the Holy Spirit resides in you.

NuissancePolice:
The comment below was one of the responses from the 2019/2020 NNPC thread and it appeared to have initiated a debate that could possibly derail the thread, so I am responding to it here. The entire premise of the poster's argument is based on that a divine being known by most to be God exists and so I think it would be most appropriate to first of all address the validity of the premise before engaging the comment properly.

1. Is there any objective proof that a being created the universe? What is it?

2. Every proponent of the "God exists theory" believes so based on what they heard or read. Never based on real proof. Why should I believe that the events about God in the bible or koran is true?

3. Why is there no objective proof of miracles in this era of civilisation as it were in the era of Jesus christ and Moses?

4. There is a very great conflict between all the gods of all the religion with each claiming their God is superior. Given that the conflict in all religion is caused by "uncertainity", wouldn't it be more efficient for God to reveal himself (or atleast with objective proof like how he established himself through elijah) physically as the true God?

5. Anyone that does not serve God will go to hell. How can we reconcile this with the concept of "free will''

6. Allah, Jehovah, Zeus, Santa etc are gods of some of the most popular religions but one thing that they all have in common is the ability to hide themselves from their subjects, leaving them confused and at the mercy of trial by error. Why is this so? It looks like the gods or God enjoy the misery men face in trying to find which of them is the authentic god.

7. Let's assume that God exists. What makes him sure that there is no other God existing in another dimension and hiding as he (current God) is doing from humanity? If God does not believe thet there is no other God besides him, does that not ultimately make God an athiest?

8. Why is God very good at "healing" diseases and anomalies that are mostly internal and not physically obvious like barreness, stomach pain, blood diseases etc. but is very bad at external ones like cuts, wounds, amputations, burns etc.? Hospitals have documented evidences of medical procedures that solved people's health problems. Is there any documented evidence of any of Gods miracles for us to watch? There are atleast a million purported cases of miracles from God but zero verifiable and documented evidence. Why? Why don't pastors or christians heal the sick found in hospitals and on the streets like Jesus did?

9. The wages of sin is death. Death according to christianity means eternal torment in hell fire. My question is does 1 billion years of torture in fire for stealing, killing etc. resonate with the concept of God being just, merciful and loving?

10. Why is there no clear pathway in approaching the things of God? Why are there more unanswered prayers than "answered" ones? For instance, is Boko Haram stronger than the prayers made by all the christians in Nigeria and the world at large?



Caveat:
This is purely an intellectual exercise. There is no intent to mock anyone. It would be greatly appreciated if this thread is treated as such with minimum religious or ethnic sentiments.

Cc: Seun, OAM4J, mynd44

Question 5. Anyone that does not serve God will go to hell. How can we reconcile this with the concept of "free will''


Firstly, what takes a man to hell is in 'not believing' in the sacrifice of Jesus (his death and resurrection). There is a universal problem with the world and that is sin. This was a choice man made from the first man Adam. And the consequence of his choice from sin and death (hell). Don't forget that choice is a product of free will which man has. God so loves us and wouldn't want us to perish in hell and as such came as a man (Jesus) to pay for the sin of the world. Again free will comes into play. You can choose to accept his sacrifice for your sin or bear the sacrifice (consequence) by yourself. To accept is to believe he did it for you.

Also note that God isn't the one punishing for sin but the one paying for sin. Christ died for our sins. Believe (accept) it and be saved. Reject (unbelieve) and die (hell) for your own sin. Whichever way, God isn't the one sending anybody to hell, you go to hell based on your choices.

For the benefit of doubt...

I would answer your questions

Question 1 Is there any objective proof that a being created the universe? What is it?

The question should be can something exist out of nothing. 'Something' placed it on motion. You might call it nature or the Big Bang, we call 'it' GOD. I wouldn't want to spend so much talking on this. I want to believe you are quite intelligent.

Question 2. Every proponent of the "God exists theory" believes so based on what they heard or read. Never based on real proof. Why should I believe that the events about God in the bible or koran is true?

The question is what do you consider as real proof. The benefit of the Bible is received solely through faith. But you would be wrong to say there aren't real proof. Like I said earlier, I wouldn't know what you call real proof but the Holy Spirit in me is all the proof one can need. And this has been evident (real proof) in my experience. I function so much in the gifts of the Spirit. What other proof do I need


Question 3 Why is there no objective proof of miracles in this era of civilisation as it were in the era of Jesus christ and Moses?

This one is quite ambiguous. I don't know what you mean. But you are sure far from the church. If you were closer, you would have seen what Jesus is doing in and through his church.

Question 4. There is a very great conflict between all the gods of all the religion with each claiming their God is superior. Given that the conflict in all religion is caused by "uncertainity", wouldn't it be more efficient for God to reveal himself (or atleast with objective proof like how he established himself through elijah) physically as the true God?

What exactly is your problem? The first of superiority between religions or God revealing himself?? Are you implying that you believe in his existence but aren't sure who is superior?

Anyway, I wouldn't want to quote scriptures for you as you wouldn't want to take it as an authority. However, God has given us something better than fire falling from heaven (if that's what you mean by objective). He has given us (Christians) his Spirit. Talking about revealing himself, I would leave it for question 60th

NuissancePolice:
The comment below was one of the responses from the 2019/2020 NNPC thread and it appeared to have initiated a debate that could possibly derail the thread, so I am responding to it here. The entire premise of the poster's argument is based on that a divine being known by most to be God exists and so I think it would be most appropriate to first of all address the validity of the premise before engaging the comment properly.

1. Is there any objective proof that a being created the universe? What is it?

2. Every proponent of the "God exists theory" believes so based on what they heard or read. Never based on real proof. Why should I believe that the events about God in the bible or koran is true?

3. Why is there no objective proof of miracles in this era of civilisation as it were in the era of Jesus christ and Moses?

4. There is a very great conflict between all the gods of all the religion with each claiming their God is superior. Given that the conflict in all religion is caused by "uncertainity", wouldn't it be more efficient for God to reveal himself (or atleast with objective proof like how he established himself through elijah) physically as the true God?

5. Anyone that does not serve God will go to hell. How can we reconcile this with the concept of "free will"?

6. Allah, Jehovah, Zeus, Santa etc are gods of some of the most popular religions but one thing that they all have in common is the ability to hide themselves from their subjects, leaving them confused and at the mercy of trial by error. Why is this so? It looks like the gods or God enjoy the misery men face in trying to find which of them is the authentic god.

7. Let's assume that God exists. What makes him sure that there is no other God existing in another dimension and hiding as he (current God) is doing from humanity? If God does not believe thet there is no other God besides him, does that not ultimately make God an athiest?

8. Why is God very good at "healing" diseases and anomalies that are mostly internal and not physically obvious like barreness, stomach pain, blood diseases etc. but is very bad at external ones like cuts, wounds, amputations, burns etc.? Hospitals have documented evidences of medical procedures that solved people's health problems. Is there any documented evidence of any of Gods miracles for us to watch? There are atleast a million purported cases of miracles from God but zero verifiable and documented evidence. Why? Why don't pastors or christians heal the sick found in hospitals and on the streets like Jesus did?

9. The wages of sin is death. Death according to christianity means eternal torment in hell fire. My question is does 1 billion years of torture in fire for stealing, killing etc. resonate with the concept of God being just, merciful and loving?

10. Why is there no clear pathway in approaching the things of God? Why are there more unanswered prayers than "answered" ones? For instance, is Boko Haram stronger than the prayers made by all the christians in Nigeria and the world at large?



Caveat:
This is purely an intellectual exercise. There is no intent to mock anyone. It would be greatly appreciated if this thread is treated as such with minimum religious or ethnic sentiments.

Cc: Seun, OAM4J, mynd44

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As much as I don't always do this... I would say this.

Firstly, you are just against the God Christians worship and not necessarily the existence of a supreme being. You quoted from the Bible, I didn't see you quote from other religious books.

Secondly, you come to argue about something you know little about. And even your little is flawed.

Thirdly, I'm finding it difficult to engage you through the line of reasoning as your reaction on the NNPC proves you aren't here for intellectual but to prove a point.

The GMD hasn't said anything about the recruitment lately but you got a latest information that APL would be out before the end of March 31st. Please who told you... I just want to check something...

Sotrue:
Latest information- Let’s forget APL for now. It would come before the end of 31st of March .The recruitment process would definitely come to an end before the end of first quarter; all things being equal but no one knows the exact day. All hands are on deck to ensure the completion of the process but some administrative processes must be followed. Our joy now as applicants is that the issue surrounding the delay has been amicably resolved. God is on our side. We shall soon be testifying of His goodness in our lives.

All rumors of APL coming this week or next week are mere hear-says and not from the boss himself. He has not said a word about the recruitment lately. This is not to say it is not possible for it to be released even this night. Shalom!

Can you just shut up already

TeddyX:


My Oga, commot mind for predictions o. Na so e dey start. Wait for NNPC.

Oga we have heard naaa

cocococo:

The ‘Uncle Jarus’s account was hacked theory’ loading. The Jarus fan club will do anything to keep their oga sacrosanct. I can’t wait for February 8th. The thing about Nigerians is that una nor dey hear word. Remove your mind from any speculated date, but for where: they are back to what they were advised against. Take any APL prediction serious at your own peril.

Imo... Orlu zone.

I can see we are many

I want to appeal that we take things a little bit slow... We can demand for update without hashtag. Hash tags would give aggrieved persons a platform to end the recruitment process. We could simply tag @nnpcgroup and @Mkkyari

We can put pressure by consistently asking the two twitter handles mentioned above for update. When we do that for a time and it doesn't yield the desired result, we can then 'let hell loose'.

No need to bring opposition to the game (at least not now). It could get messy; suspended, subjected to further investigation or cancellation.

So much negative vibes... The thread is tensed... Many giving up and amazingly, everybody now has a 'sauce'.
If your sauce couldn't tell us accurately when to expect cbt invite and interview invite, why should we believe your sauce now?

And it's obvious some persons would be so glad if this recruitment process goes wrong... Too bad, you would be disappointed.

To also think we are too selective in believing only 'sauces' that goes well with us... Well, you are right. Unless it's from NNPC, I would continue to 'believe' only 'sauces' that bring the kind of information I want to hear. Yes! And that's because I choose to. I choose to keep my hope alive. I choose to keep believing in this recruitment. I choose to have faith yet again for the system. And until the system by itself prove me wrong, I would keep believing.

So Mr negative talker, no need to stress yourself. I have got a solid heart, you can't change my opinion about this recruitment simply because of your past experience in similar recruitment.

And for the Ademmy guy, the only thing that saddens me is how you all make him feel relevant by quoting him. If it were only my type here, he would have had to reinstall his browser to confirm if his comments were actually submitted because I would so ignore him.

#keepthehopealive

souljar:

Are you looking for Monika or APL? I don't understand you.
And @bolded, I denounce myself from any similitude of ABT.

d



I'm waiting for my APL o. The monikers are side attractions na.
While we wait, the monikers keep us busy

Very funny how we try so hard to restore the ABT that has longed been crashed. The 'dreaded alert' is now a thing of the past.

If you haven't been alerted, just pray to be alerted or better still pray to get your APL.

We have gone past the theory days. They don't move anybody again. At this point, what we need are 'sauces'

Don't stress yourself on the 1% or 10%... The theories can't change what would be. I see it as a misguided curiosity. You will just have headache. Let the curiosity be for the type of easymoneysniper 'sweet burnt sauces' . It's also obvious that those that haven't been paid are very few. Most of which are 'new' commentators on this thread.

Anyway, we expect another wave of alert some time during the week.


And on a lighter note, I don't know whether most active monikers here have been banned or they chose to 'respect' themselves. But I do really miss them. For the past few days, my interest and visit to this thread have reduced drastically

#bringbackouractivemonikers

On the contrary, what's annoying are those monikers that wouldn't just mind their business. You guys are actually the ones that do escalate issues and add additional 'useless' pages you complain about.

The other time it was oga Jarus and oga Gbriel. If the issue had stayed between both of them, we wouldn't have had up to a page of that issue. But no! Those who claim 'intelligence' came to buy somebody's else matter like its a market. And yes we saw the result. I'm not saying you can't give a comment about issues of others. But if you notice two or three persons have made comments that flows with your submission, while not make the matter rest?

Did you notice Mosgoon issues those days? What flooded this thread wasn't his exchange of words with the person who spotted his 'pride' or any other person. It was those who bought the matter that 'fought,' up to the point of literally insulting each other. Common! For a post that wasn't originally directed to you? Even the person being mentioned did not 'fight', and you took it on your head all in the name of being intelligent?

Now it's about oga Chaste and madam Ladyjane. If you had allowed them do their 'love play' and go, we would have less than an additional one page. Besides, I don't see any big deal in that. If you follow the thread and how it all started you would know that there isn't anything serious with them (at least for now). They are just having fun on the thread and keeping it lively. You might say this is not a romance thread but this thread birthed what they are doing. They are simply moving with the flow. In fact, the more you complain, the more you would see the public display of affection!


Another misconception is to think that most of the people you met in the tower are shallow minded or empty. No, you are wrong. Many only turned here to not just an information center but also a place for fun and the fun would always go with the flow of the thread. The fun has kept the thread going. If not you would have had a grave yard and maybe had to unfollow the thread. As much as when I come here, I hope to see 'useful' information, I still prefer to see pages of AOB (one local man said that's the stage we are now) than nothing at all. The love bird, the 'checking something', the theories, APL predictions and all other comments that keep flooding this thread gives me (us) a sense of togetherness in pursuit of one thing - APL. It shows we are still in the game. It's what still makes us hopeful. If everywhere was quiet, you would think others have given up on the recruitment process. I have read some job thread where the followers are begging for comments no matter how useless, just to give a sense of hope and togetherness for the next stage of the recruitment. Also, if you see some things that are said sometimes on my class Whatsapp group, you might wonder if they are secondary school children. But no! They are actually very well intelligent with great character and personality. It's just what it is... Fun!


Finally, not like I'm encouraging the things anybody do here. You wouldn't see me give savagery replies or insult. And that's just my personality. I would rather give savagery to a person face to face. And if I do that to you, it shows you are one of my closest friends. This is just to say, personality differs. When you see a post you don't like, try to ignore. If you just can't ignore, check if it has been dealt with. No need flogging a dead horse. If it hasn't been dealt with, talk to the person in a polite manner. Two wrongs can't make a right. If you talk rudely, you would end up eating your own vomit, doing the same thing you are complaining about.

And on a lighter note... I just modified my post to ask for who to submit my AOLMAW form to and also apologize for not mentioning some local men in my previous post.

I say a good night abi is it good morning to you


PS. I didn't quote you, so if you would quote me to insult me or spill negative comment, just learn and move on

joezeph:


Kyari is not in Abu Dhabi

I wanted to say this... I just didn't want to fall the guy hand

Another 1000 count begins

It's the start of a fresh new page

#1001

I was here

I greet all the local men and women...
As we come very close to the end of this recruitment process, I deem it fit to register my presence in this forum and particularly this thread.

I have been one of the most active guest on this thread. I had known Nairaland since my secondary school days (I always read through the political and romance section then).

I became an active guest again when I needed tips for the Nnpc interview (then the thread was less than 300 pages). Ever since I have followed it 'bumper to bumper'.

I must say sometimes I wished I never knew about the thread cause I just can't forget about the recruitment. Unlike the days of applications and CBT, I was quick to forget I applied for Nnpc.

But then, I must say I have learnt so much from this thread. It opened my eyes to so much... So much about Nnpc, the oil industry and the job market as a whole. All thanks to people like Oga Jarus and Xfire... And to all others in the tread who has made awesome contributions especially those who made sure this thread remains lively and relevant. The like of Gbriel, Larride, Bobowaja, Mosgoon, Kevlala, Beam, Ladyjane, Sempumping...

Before Nairaland FBI would investigate me, I registered nairaland few weeks ago when I wanted to comment on an argument (can't remember the particular one), but after registering I saw that so many persons have replied to the post, few saying some of the things I wanted to say. So I decided to allow the matter die. Ever since, I kept following the thread as a guest.

All these exegesis is just to request that I be given the honour to join the local men and women association. Thank you in anticipation