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solite3:
@bold dolphinheart arguing with Jehovah.


Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.[/color]

Isaiah 43:12 [color=#990000]I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.



Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: [/b]I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for[b] I am God, and there is none else.


These are not my words but Jehovah's words yet false witnesses are arguing with him.

Christians are the true with witnesses because we hold the truth.
Only Jehovah is the true God all others are false the god of this world is a false god just a mere idol nothing more but false witnesses loves to call him God because he is their god.
Dolphinheart you are a wolf in sheepclothing deceiving the ignorant and simple.
Your father the devil is truly proud but know this that you will be destroyed with your god if you dont repent.

please, solite3, go and edit that post so I can reply you na, why do you like disjointed ways like this, if you really want me to reply you, exit that post so I can see you words when I quote you.

brocab:
As silly as you sound every time you quote, everything is always a problem to you.
Can't you read God said let US make man in Our own image-who was God talking too?
Who was Adam preferring too-when He said: he saw the Lord God walking in the Garden-how many People did Adam see?
And the scriptures tells us no-one has seen God at any time, so who did Adam hear and see?
{Proverbs 8:22-30} is above your mentality-the word is God {John 1:1}
{Genesis 1:1} At the beginning the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, and God said let there be Light.
{John 1:1} The word is God...

you have just proved me right again, you could not answer the question:  , BROCAB, ARE THE THE VERSES(PRO 8: 22-30) REFERING TO Jesus?

to your questions: you need to show us the verse that says Adam saw God!, I've warned about saying the scriptures said something without providing the source of such statement!

brocab:
Your god is of this world..
Our God isn't from this world-haven't you read, what Jesus said: His Kingdom is not of this world. {John 18:36}

simple question you are afraid to answer, who is the god of this world? , remember the Greek word for god their is theos!

brocab:
Lets prove how wrong you are-I will ask you this question {John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
Or {John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was a god.

Joh 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

Which of these have you denied from the past?
Read {Revelation 3:14} again, Jesus was there at the beginning of creation of God-He wasn't created by God.

let's see:
Re 3:14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
As you see, the verse describes Jesus as the beginning of God's creation, it did not say Jesus was their at the beginning of God's creation.

Shame on you Dolphinheart because you don't believe in truth-and because you own bible doesn't produce any-you would rather twist the word of God, trying to sound right for you.
{Isaiah 9:6} For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the Government shall be upon His shoulder, and His NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of peace.
Every verse, every scripture, and every Word that shows that Christ is God, I believe...

Christ is not almighty God, he sits at the right side of the almighty God, he was exalted by the almighty God , he pleads for us from the almighty God,
Jesus received the revelation from God, he is not the same person he received the revelation from.
Jesus is the son of the most high, he is not the most high, God sent Jesus, God did not send himself .

Haven't you heard-Fear not them that kill the body, but can not kill the soul, but rather fear Him, which is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell {Matthew 10:28}

so now you believe that body and soul go to hell? its no longer only spirit again?

I am saying I and the Father are One..

the disciples too will be one with Jesus and the father! digest that!

And the scriptures did teach us that, the invisible God became visible, can't you read, the Word was with God, and the word was God
And you are claiming you haven't denied {John 1:1} Hmmmm..
And a Son shall be born, and He shall be Called Immanual-meaning God with us.{Matthew 1:23}

so Jesus lied when he said that no one has seen God at any time?

solite3:
[ wat do u mean?

some statements found in your post when quoting you are mine, don't add my posts to your posts when responding!

what did i expect Jehovah says there are no other gods. So you dolphinheart are trying to prove Jehovah wrong? Smh

We will know if this is true after you have answered the questions about God being in the midst of God's , about Pauls statement of God's in heaven!

it is evident that you have been doldging questions and throwing baseless accusations

we will soon see if my accusations are baseless.

read very well i never mix your words with mine.

yes you do!

EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE OTHER STATEMENTS , YOUR POST ENDED HERE WHEN I QUOTED YOU, PLEASE GO AND EDIT THE POST SO THAT REMAINIG PARTS OF YOUR POST CAN BE SEEN WHEN ONE IS QUOTING YOU, AS IVE SAID , I TIRED OF DOING COPY AND PASTING YOUR POST SO AS TO BE ABLE TO REPLY YOU.
Please just take time and edit it okay, so I will be able to reply all you said!
Once again, pls edit it so that the remaining parts of your post can be visible for one to reply to!

johnw74:
No he isn't, but you very well maybe

I have showed you many of your lies and you cannot even see them, oh blinded one
you deny them, which is even more lies

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


your posts lie lie, are full of your lying and false accusations etc
they are full also of your denying previous lies and false accusations etc

ha ha talk about being fully entrenched in lies.

I asked you a simple question who is the god of this world, the Greek word for God in that verse is theos, up till now you refuse to answer!

johnw74:
bro, lying comes naturally to dolphinheart

the Word was not created

God and the Word is God, John 1:1
God is a Spirit, John 4:24
God and the Word(two persons)is that one same Spirit that is God


Wisdom-the word has always existed in God
before creation when all there was, was God, God bought forth the Word from Himself,
an exact image of Himself. That Eternal Spirit(God) became two persons.

The Word had a beginning as a seperate person to God,
but being that Eternal Spirit of God He had no beginning.

THE ONE SPIRIT THAT IS GOD BECAME TWO PERSONS

Pro 8:22  The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
 
"posessed" can mean make-create, God made the word who has always existed in God, a seperate person

Pro 8:23  I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

"setup" same as verse 22, poured out of God-made a seperate person
 
Pro 8:24  When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

"brought forth" God bought forth the Word out of Himself,
it's described in some ways similarly to a woman giving birth
I have to add for oh confused one: "God does not have a womans body".

bought forth
H2342
חִיל    חוּל
chûl    chı̂yl
khool, kheel
A primitive root; properly to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), that is, (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain (especially of parturition) or fear; figuratively to wait, to pervert: - bear, (make to) bring forth, (make to) calve, dance, drive away, fall grievously (with pain), fear, form, great, grieve, (be) grievous, hope, look, make, be in pain, be much (sore) pained, rest, shake, shapen, (be) sorrow (-ful), stay, tarry, travail (with pain), tremble, trust, wait carefully (patiently), be wounded.
Total KJV occurrences: 58

also similarly, the Word-Jesus Christ was bought forth from Mary, as a man(flesh), and who is that Eternal Spirit(God).
 
Pro 8:25  Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 
Pro 8:26  While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 
Pro 8:27  When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 
Pro 8:28  When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 
Pro 8:29  When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 
Pro 8:30  Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 

I can imagine the joy of God(God and the word).
God was delighted, and the Word was rejoicing,
now being two identical persons sharing their joy and love.

Then God(God and the Word) created the Angels, the World, man etc, to further share His love with

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

unfortunately, I don't think brocab agrees that that verse is referring to jesus, let me help you ask him , BROCAB, ARE THE THE VERSES(PRO 8: 22-30) REFER ING TO JESUS?

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

amazing, all the same repeated lies over and over again that have been adressed
and what confusion, you should read your own posts
but you lie lie love to take after your god the father of lies and accusing
I of course don't waste time replying over and over again to your same repeated over and over again lies


you lie continually
you falsely accuse
and much more that is evil under the sun

you always deny it, which is just more lies from you lie lie
you are fully entrenched in lying.

don't deny it , further denial will only show your true character the more , I've provided you with date and time that you made a false accusation against dolphin heart, it has been proven to be false accusation, a Christian should apologise when shown his wrong ways.

Just a couple of recent examples of your lying accusing and confusion oh entrenched one

johnw74: "Jehovah doesn't mean God"

dolphinheart: "I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,"

If it's true that Johnw74 made that statement you ascribe to him, pls show us where by telling us the time and date such statement was made
secondly do you agree with such statement?, that jehovah does not mean God?
I'll like to know if Johnw74 truly made such statement( TIME AND DATE SO IT CAN BE CHECKED), and if you believe such statement.

Secondly, dolphinheart is right to say he never said those words, therefore Johnw74 accusation that he made that statement is false!
johnw74 accusation on Nov 6, 6:13 pm reads: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha" 
johnw74 accusation above have been proven to be false.

ha ha forever confused

then you added "pls pls stop lying against me!"

always the confused lie lie and false accuser



dolphinheart: PLS DO NOT DENY THAT JEHOVAH IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD, FOR YOU WILL BE WHAT THE PSALMIST PRAYED AGAINST!
Pr 30:9So that I do not become satisfied and deny you and say, “Who is Jehovah?” Nor let me become poor and steal and dishonor the name of my God.


ha ha, I will continue to deny that yahweh is not the name of God, because Yahweh is the name of God
or it is "a" name for God anyway

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

Good that you accept that jehovah is the name of God, the God of jesus, the most high God, the one who jesus sits beside , the name of the one who exalted jesus, WHO JESUS IS SUBJECTED TO, THE HEAD AND GOD OF JESUS, THE ALMIGHTY GOD

brocab:
If you believe Christ is God's master worker, then how come you refuse to believe in {John 1:1}?

1. Good to know you accept that jesus is God's master worker.
2. Did I ever tell you or say that I do not believe John 1:1?, brocab stop making false accusations ok!

It really shows you have not understood Paul's statement, Paul didn't say Jesus was created-He said Jesus was the first born of all creation {Colossians 1:15-21}
So allow me to correct your statement "The first born of all creation.
I will start by saying-Christ relationship to His Father begins with the phase "the Image of the invisible God" The word image" meaning, copy or likeness,expresses Christ deity, This word involves more than a resemblance, more than a representation. He is God, although He took on human form, He has the exact nature of His Father {Hebrews 1:3}

1. you yourself read that he is the image of the invisible God, common sense should tell you that jesus is not that invisible God, your image is a reflection of you, your image is not you.
2. I'll give you an example about image from the scriptures below
Ge 5:3Adam lived for 130 years and then became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and he named him Seth.

Did you read that verse, do you see it that seth is the image of Adam? Look at the following facts
1. seth is the image of Adam
2. seth is a human just like Adam
3. seth is not the same human as Adam
4. seth is not the same man as Adam
5. Adam and seth are both humans but not same human
6. Adam was not said to be seths image, why? cus Adam is before seth!

APPLY THIS FACTS ABOVE TO JESUS BEING THE IMAGE OF GOD AND COME TO A BETTER UNDERSTAND!

The word of {John 1:1} is a divine person, not a philosophical obstruction, in the incarnation, the invisible God became visible in Christ, deity was clothed in humanity {Matthew 17:2}

Are you saying that jesus and the invisible God are the same person?
moreover the scriptures never said it was the invisible God that became flesh, it was the word, who was with God , that became flesh.
The invisible God became visible?, how come, cus jesus himself said no one has seen God AT ANY TIME!
We know God sent someone, we know God did not send himself!, so the notion that the visible God became visible is a BIG LIE!, THE SCRIPTURES NEVER TAUGHT US THAT!

God is in Christ, Visible, audible, approachable, knowable, and available, All that God is, Christ is.

1. If God is in Christ, it automatically means that God is not Christ!
2. All that God is jesus is? BIG LIE, God cannot die, jesus died, God cannot be killed, jesus was killed.

The description "first born of all creation" speaks of Christ preexistence. He is not a creature, but a eternal creator {John 1:10} God created the World though Christ, and redeemed the world though Christ {Hebrews 1:2-4} Note that Jesus is called the first born-not the first created, the "Word first born" Greek word {"prototokos"} signifies prior.

1. God created the world through Christ it means that Christ and God are not the same person.
2. jesus was called firstborn of all creation, not just firstborn. This signifies that among those created, jesus was the first!, first to be created. God created jesus in the beggining!
King James Version
Re 3:14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

3. Strong's Concordance

prototokos: first-born

Original Word: πρωτότοκος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prototokos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro-tot-ok'-os)
Short Definition: first-born
Definition: first-born, eldest

4. The first born of a beast is a beast
the firstborn of man is a man
the firstborn of creation is a creation
you cannot be firstborn without BEING BORN!

In the culture of the Ancient Near East, the first born was not necessity the oldest child, first born referred not to order but to rank. The first born possessed the inheritance and leadership. Therefore the phase expresses Christ sovereignty over creation. After resurrecting Jesus from the dead, God gave authority over the earth {Matthew 28:18} Jesus created the world, saved the world, and rules the world, He is a self-existed knowledged head of creation. Finely the phase recognise Him as the Messiah, I will make Him {Christ} My first born, higher then the kings of the earth {Psalms 89:27} 6 times is declared to be the first born of God {Romans 8:29, Colossians 1:15, 18, Hebrews 1:6, 12:23, and Revelation 1:5} These passages declare the preexistence, the sovereignty and the redemption that Christ offers.
It's silly, for you to try explain the Telragrammaton without any providing evidence. Your say isn't good enough. I suppose you won't answer this one correctly either.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages.

1. Yes, the first born is not necessarily the oldest child, but the firstborn is a child!, a child of who he is the firstborn, he is firstborn cus he was born!
2. If it refers to rank , it revers to rank of those who where born!
3. Christ possessed the inheritance and leadership because God gave it to him, to bring all thing to himself, subject all, including jesus to himself!
4. since you cannot inherit what you already have, it shows that jesus is not God!
5. If God gave jesus authority over the earth, it means jesus is not the God who gave him authority!
6. No verse in the scriptures has ever jesus self existed, you always have to put a lot of man made theories that cannot be proven with the scriptures.
7. jesus has a head! his head is God, jesus is not the head of himself!
8. brocab, you refuse to tell us who made jesus his first born!
9. In that post, I made no mention of YHWH, Nor did I mention "jehovah". so stop trying to accuse me of explaining something I did not talk about in the post, if you want explanation, go to the post where I gave explanation of God's name.

note: it can be seen that you could not say anything about the fact that your one God is different from the one God of jesus and the disciples!

brocab:
Of course blame others-isn't that what you are good at, the same as blaming other bibles.

again I repeat, an example was giving in that same post, but you removed it when quoting me!
It is a fact that you removed the example i gave when you quoted my post!

[quote author=brocab post=51074855][/quote]an example was giving in that same post, but you removed it when quoting me!

johnw74:
sure, here are just a few of many from you just recently:


johnw74: Jehovah doesn't mean God

dolphinheart: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,

johnw74 and dolphinheart are not the same person , so why bring up post from two different people as If one person said it.

moreover are you saying that Johnw74 said jehovah does not mean God?, if that is true, then that statement is correct, unless you will later say he did not say such.

The statement attributed to dolphinheart is true, he is correct to say "I never said jehovah means the name of God"
it is true he never said so and the accuser (johnw74), could not bring up any evidence to surpport such statements.

The accuser falsely made this a cusations by  6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post he stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

the above accusation by johnw74 is false , dolphinheart never said that!

johnw74: Jehovah means the self existent

dolphinheart: the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!

This is true, the dictionary never said self existent means God, and no proof has been brought forward that the dictionary said So!

johnw74: you said Jehovah doesn't mean God

dolphinheart: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,
pls pls stop lying against me!

again, if we go look at Johnw74 statement on Nov 6, 6:13 pm, it is different from what you stated above
above statement : you said Jehovah doesn't mean God
original accusation : "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha" 

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THEIR IS AN ATTEMPT TO ALTER THE ORIGINAL ACCUSATION BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DISCOVERED TO BE FALSE!
DOLPHINHEART DEFENCE HAS BEEN THE SAME, HE NEVER MADE THE STATEMENT HE IS BEING ACCUSED OF MAKING!,

oh how you lie lie dolphinheart twist and lie, and then you add false accusing to your lying



ha ha you are blinded even to your lies, when you lie you are speaking naturally
oh how you love to twist and lie, falsely acccuse, and so much more, that stinks to hell

you lie lie ask for just one instance of you lying your posts are full of lies and all kinds of evil oh blinded one

one example of all kinds of evil:
it is evil and stinks to hell when you change God's word and say: the Word is "a god"

You accusations has once again be shown with evidence(time and date you made the false accusations), you could not deny that you did not make such false accusations, you are now trying to edit it!
If I ever make false accusations , I'll apologize, it does not take anything away from me, if you accuse someone of saying something and that person said he did not say such, then you should apologise !

johnw74:
You lie lie dolphinheart say, "show me where I lied", you never stop lying false jw, and there are more of your lies

And yet you could not post my statement that is a lie.

God created man and all there is, no other spirit created anything, God and the Word is God, God and the Word created man.
You don't post scripture for other spirits other than God creating, because there isn't any,
it's just more lies from false jw.

if you had not cut off parts of my post which contained those scriptures, then you would have seen it!

hyprochesy from you false jw, you believe that the Word is another god, a mighty god

a lot of other translations support that view!

also another lie from you lie lie dolphinheart, God was talking to the Word another person who is God, not to another god, John 1:1

your statement means that their is more than one God, one God talking to another God!
or was God talking to himself ? no !
it also means that your 3 persons in one have different will, because if they have the same will, one wunt be telling the others what to do.

The scripture you removed tells who God is , it did not say God used God, it tells us that God used Jesus, his son.
It is evident that God did not send himself, it is evident that God cannot die, it is evident that God does not sit beside himself in heaven, therefore Jesus is not the same person as the one who the scriptures describe as God!

both hyprochesy and lie from you lie lie dolphinheart in the same short sentence.

Again I repeat, if God was talking to another God, then it means their is more than one almighty God.

Truly liars and false accusers etc. are not the meek ones
false jw are lambs when they come to peoples homes,
and as we see from you lie lie, they are wolves at other times.

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 
Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits.

are you saying that jehovah does seek the meek ones?
Zep 2:3Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.

compare these two scriptures
isa 61:1The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek. He sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners,

Ac 10:37, 38You know the subject that was talked about throughout all Ju·deʹa, starting from Galʹi·lee after the baptism that John preached:38about Jesus who was from Nazʹa·reth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil, because God was with him.

brocab:
You Have provided me with plenty of evidence, "and that you worship a God you don't even know" {The Unknown God}

1. When you lay accusations, supply it with facts and proof! you have a preference of laying false accusations that you always run away from when asked to defend them!

Don't rant, provide the evidence, if I say and prove that my God is different from yours, that is not an accusation, it can only be false if my facts are false, fortunately you could not proof the facts given to be false!
again to support my statement I will give you facts about the God I worship
I worship the God described in this verses below, do you worship that God or add other persons to that God as the God you worship
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

Col 1:3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,

1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.[/b]
Jesus worship only the father as God, the disciples worship only the father as God , I try to worship only the father asc the one God, but your one one God consists of more than the father, therefore we don't worship the same God.
now tell me, I'm I right or wrong? are the proofs given false?

'Jehovah isn't the name given to God, Jehovah is Lord, a pre-existence body, He was living before time began.

No one gave God the name Jehovah, God gave himself that name , he says more than once , that is my name forever!

{John 17:5} Jesus said "Now Father, Glorify Me in Your presence with the Glory, I had with you before the world existed..

brocab, don't you know that commas placed wrongly can alter the meaning of a sentence, so why did you decide to alter the location of the comma when you quoted that verse .
King James Version
Joh 17:5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
brocab, your dubious ways does not have a limit

{John 3:13, 6:33,38,62, 8:23, 16:28} Christ even said, He existed prior to Abraham's birth {John 8:58-59, John 1:2-3, Colossians 1:16-1, Galatians 4:4, Romans 8:3, 1John 1:2, Hebrews 1:2} Jesus is the Pre-existed God, from the beginning.

Christ like a lot of spirit creatures pre- existed before Abraham!
Christ is God's master worker, who God used in creating the world
Christ is the firstborn of God's creation
Christ was created by God.
Christ is God's servant.

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart you go to great lengths to try and show that

"Jehovah doesn't mean God"

lie lie dolphinheart you go to great lengths to try and show that

"Jehovah is "a" name for God" is false

and false jw dolphinheart you have gone to great lengths to try and show that

"I AM" is not a name for God



Moses said to God: the children of Israel shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

God replied: say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Exo 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 
Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM(hayah) hath sent me unto you.

false jw dolphinheart produced other bible verses that typically have words removed and others added

"I AM"(hayah) is taken away from those verses and "I will become" a meaning for "I AM" is added

and why wouldn't false jw change it, they change much else
ie. they change "the Word was God" to "the Word was a god"

such evil

the names I AM(hayah) and Jehovah(YHWH) are diffrent, duh that's obvious, but false jw try and make them both say Jehovah



Pro 30:6  Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

we see the bible come true in lie lie dolphinheart, he is found to be a liar very often.

so you are saying that
1. you are more knowledgeable than those scholars and and what they explained is wrong( I doubt you even read it)
2. God gave moses more than one name so he should have said " this are my names forever" instead of "this is my name forever"

johnw74:
ha ha such a deceiver, I already told you that sentence is mine and not yours

No doubt it is yours, but also it is with no doubt that we now know that this sentence of yours is false , in that sentence, you claimed I said something and it has been proven to be false accusations. Christians don't make false accusations, and if they do , they apologise for such wrongdoing. let's wait and see if you will show you are a christian!

but you love to lie and falsely accuse repeatedly, it's what you know and do best
and again I addressed your false accusations completely,
of course you did say Jehovah does not mean God
and when I post "Jehovah means God", and you reply with "Jehovah is the name of God"
I asked you: If you don't mean "jehovah means the name of God" then what do you mean by those replies?
of course you never answered back lie lie, just done your usual lying, false accusing, etc.

1. Give an example of false accusation o!, you keep claiming I accuse falsely but you don't give an example
2. post the post you are referring to Sir!, stop this nonsense, my post mostimes contain more than " Jehovah is the name of God", you want to now blame me for your inability to read the whole post? habA!
You don't read, you just search for words to fight over!
3. I deliberately did not answer you, first I want to clear the issue on if Jehovah is the name of God and Jehovah does not mean God, then we can go look at what Jehovah really means. my move was proven correct when I showed you some Scholars view about the word " Jehovah" expecially from its Hebrew word, yet you could not grasp it!

and I explained it all, go back and look at it again false jw,
all you can do is repeat your same lies, which you do over and over again taking after your god.
I understand that your repeated lies and false accusations etc. are all you have, and is all we get from you,
because they are all your father gives you

yes, you explained your own personal understanding, which the scriptures have proven to be false, you had to modify an explanation before you can arrive at your understanding.

lie lie dolphinheart

of course your post right from the word go is the same old repeated lies over and over again from you, with confusion, false accusing, deceiving, and using every means taught by satan to lie, those are the only kind of things you know

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

the scriptures I posted and the explanations that follows are not lies.
The father alone, with no other persons attached to him is my God , THAT IS WHAT THE SCRIPTURES TAUGHT ME!
THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, NO OTHER PLACE CAN YOU FIND ANY OTHER AS THE TRUE GOD!

poor false jw your confusion is unbelievable, 
yes I will give my source again which I gave right from the start and which does not
alter the fact that Jehovah is the name of God, duh

H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521

Good , I hope you saw the definition, it did not say "jehovah means God"
brocab, I also hope you too can see how many times the KJV claims the word translated to Jehovah occurs in the bible , it's not the seven times you claim o!

lie lie, there is my source, Jehovah means self existent(adjective), Jehovah means the self existent(noun)

Good you are learning, though this is according to the KJV.

of course Jehovah being the only self existent "means" he is God

modification has stated, jehovah is the only self existent God.

Jehovah means God, but not to lie lie dolphinheart

the dictionary did teach this, you have seen the discription of God name, that identifies who that God is!, he is the only self existent, it does not mean that that name means God cus he is the only only God who bears that name.
For example :
john means " the self existant"
John is the only man that is self existent
does John mean "man" ? absolutely not!
man has his discription and definition just like God!

and that's the subject which you keep changing, the subject you keep running away from.

at no point have I refused to respond to it, I've shown you several times that your personaly made definition is wrong , and that you had to modify the words given by the dictionary to arrive at your definitions.
self existant does not mean God ,neither does God only mean self existent!

and now false jw, a little more explanation of my source, as you have no understanding of it yourself:


Jehovah 
H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521


lie lie, you think that what the dictionary say's, is all there is to describing Jehovah,
I could add much to what the dictionary says and it would be true, for instance I could add "(the) everlasting" and I could add "the one true God" and I could add"God" and much more, but you have no knowledge and think the few words from the dictionary say's it all
Truly Jehovah means God

it could be true, yes, but you will need to add the source of your facts, you refuse to add any source that says " jehovah means God".

however your jehovah is a false jehovah and not God, and there in lies your confusion.
false jw is everything that is false: false doctrines, false jehovah, false prophecies, false Jesus etc.

so we have a true Jehovah, brocab, I hope you are reading that their is really someone named jehovah!

God
H430
אֱלֹהִים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Total KJV occurrences: 2601

good, so you can see that the dico did not say God means Jehovah, neither Did it say God means self existent!
YOur can also see that others apart from jehovah are called gods , even though they are not self existent!

and so Lie lie, you would also think that is all there is to describing God, but I could add "the most High" and I could add "(the) self existent" I could add "Jehovah"and much more and it would be true as well.
You are so used to only believing what your elders through the witchpower magazine tell you,
that you think the few words that is written in a dictionary describing Jehovah is all there is, duh

1. you are now God, able to know what others are thinking, I juba for you!
2. any addition you make must be supported with proof from source, not personally made up belief.

Jehovah means the self existent, in return the self existent means Jehovah
if the self existent means Jehovah, then the self existent means God, unless God is not the same self existent
as Jehovah is

Your yourself can see how derived your analogy is, also you had to infuse a false statement that self existent means God.
You yourself has posted the definition and meaning of God, no part of it says God means self existent!

Jehovah means the self existent
God means the self existent

had to scratch out the false statement!

Jehovah means God, simple, but not for the blinded

false statement derived from false personal analogy

2Co 4:3  But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 
2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

pls who is the god of this world?
note the Greek word used for god in that verse is "thoes" o!
Strong's Concordance
theos: God, a god

Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Short Definition: God, a god
Definition: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.

according to your posts lie lie, Jehovah is the name of God, and that's all you can say, besides of course all of your lie lies, false accusations, twisting, changing the subject, confusion, etc.

As long as you cant bring one proof , i will not respont to that , but it will be known that the scholars agree with me :
Bible > Strong's > Hebrew > 3068

◄ 3068. Yhvh ►

Strong's Concordance
Yhvh: the proper name of the God of Israel
Original Word: יְהֹוָה
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Short Definition: LORD


NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from havah
Definition
the proper name of the God of Israel
NASB Translation
GOD (314), LORD (6399), LORD'S (111).


Brown-Driver-Briggs
יהוהc. 6823 i.e. יַהְוֶה
proper name, of deity Yahweh, the proper name of the God of Israel

The scriptures agree with me :
Ps 83:18May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Ex 6:3And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.

Isa 42:8I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images.

by the way lie lie, Jehovah is "a" name of God, is true also, except for the oh great blinded one

lie lie, you argue at great length with all that satan gives you to try and show that
Jehovah doesn't mean God 

and you also argue at great length with all that satan gives you to try and show that "Jehovah is a name of God", is not true 


And you lie lie dolphinheart certinally do unashameably use every means known to twist and lie,
like a bad little son of satan should.

Go and read my post again, pay attention (as I warned you) to the underlined parts of those sources I provided)

brocab:
Explain why you refuse to answer the truth-Jehovah's name was mixed together and made up from all different Languages-and it is not the Divine name for God. Prove me wrong-please explain?

Your dubious nature prevents you from learning. The word " Jehovah is the word used by people who speak English when pronouncing God's name, different language have different pronunciation and writing of God's name. God Did not pronounce the word "Jehovah" to the isrealites cus it's obvious the isrealites do not speak English.
Your dubious attitude is more pronounced when we use your logic to examine the word "jesus" , the isrealites and even the Greeks do not write or pronounce the name of God's son as jesus, so why do you do so, pls tell me why you call jesus if not that you speak English!

Are you still on the old subject of the Hell theory, and I have already told you, I read the KJV-what other KJV's is their? {Psalms 83:18} will be a breeze, from which bible? Most bibles call Him LORD, the old King James bible calls Him Jehovah, the NKJV calls him Lord-but never God-like the JW's call Jehovah God-this verse alone proves Jehovah's name isn't God's Divine name..

1. yes I'm still on it so answer the question, or does your answer show you to be a teacher of falsehood, why are you refusing to answer:
Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?

2.You read the KJV, pls which version of the KJV do you read , is it the american king James bible, the new king James bible, or is it the authorised version king James bible, pls tell us which one it is, don't be afraid, and after doing so , pls quote pslams 83: 18 from that version.

Come on Dolphinheart you believe you can answer almost anything-tell the world-why the JW's call God Jehovah?

Though that believe exists only in your mind as I've never said or implied so( I'm even open to corrections when facts are being presented), I'll still answer your question, English speaking witnesses of Jehovah call God Jehovah cus God himself tells us that that is his name!
Isa 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images.

even in the KJV, one of God's Faithfull servants acknowledges that "Jehovah" is God's name:
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

They also know that God's name is to be known and pronounced and declared :
De 32:3 For I will declare the name of Jehovah. Tell about the greatness of our God!

Servants of God used God's name(later modified into YHWH) close to 7000 times in the Hebrew scriptures, it was not supposed to be kept hidden from people of the earth, therefore to fufill God's will Jehovah's witnesses declare that name in wateva way it is being pronounced in wateva language they speak!

{The evidence prevails I want to hear the truth come straight out of the horses mouth, from you, the truth is the Jehovah Witnesses had chosen to please Man, Not God.}

the scripture above have proven you to be a liar!
You even claim that the word " Jehovah " is silly, yet you could not defend that claim when that same word is found in your bible, is that not hipocricy of the highest order?, I asked you, did your bible use a silly word? you could not answer!

And yet the Hebrews were afraid to call God by His name {Exodus 20:7} but the Jehovah witnesses shows no remorse?
Now its time to stop running away-answer this page.

You are a liar brocab, the verse did not say "Hebrews where afraid to call God's name"
let's even look at it further, where the Hebrews afraid to say "LORD" In Hebrew? , the answer is no! , so if you claim God's name is "LORD" , then it automatically means the Hebrews where not afraid to use it, cus they used it thousands of times!
but if you still claim that the Hebrews did not use God's name, it automatically means that the word "LORD" not God's name but a word they use to replace God's name!

The word Jehovah is used only 7 times not only Jehovah is a name, it is also a place. God had many personal names-Jehovah is just one name, mixed together from all different languages. It is only the JW's who had added Jehovah's name throughout their bible.

the Hebrew word in which your bible translates to "Jehovah " seven times occurs well over 6000 times in the scriptures, even your bible agrees that that Hebrew word can be translated to "Jehovah" in English.

So why did your bible prefer to translate the word only to about 1% of its occurrence in the scriptures?
answer: they prefer to follow the ways of man(who wanted to hide God's name , rather than follow God's directive(to declare his name worldwide).

Which is silly, you believe your bible is the only bible that exist-while the other bibles don't exist.

1. provide where I said that, you lie too much
2. did you claim that the word Jehovah is silly or not?

Your bible doesn't even hold the Spirit Of God-instead your bible had changed the Word Of God from the beginning to the end, your bible is unscriptural, it's a lie from the beginning-scholars that wrote your bible were men without God.

Give and example, I'll show you other translations that support the NWT, I'll also show you what some Scholars say about the verse you will mention!

Most bibles don't even mention the name Jehovah-instead they called Him by His proper name "Lord God"

I don't think you read your words when you post them or even if you read them, you dont understand the implications of your statement .
If you claim other bibles don't use the name Jehovah but call him by his proper name " LORD GOD", does this not mean that your bible is improper?, using and improper name for God? or does your bible not use Jehovah?
ARE THE OTHER BIBLES YOU REFER TO CORRECT AND THE ONE YOU USE WRONG? OR ARE BOTH CORRECT WHEN ONE USES "LORD GOD" AND ANOTHER USES " JEHOVAH?

Don't worry about those questions, cus I know your dubious ways will not allow you answer them, but anyone who reads this post and reads your reply will understand what you are trying to hide.

No-one is interested in your beliefs-other then the JW's, For a name that you believe is God's personal name-the bibles had surely made a mockery out from under you.

reality and the scriptures have shown that your imaginations are false!, I even showed you God's name from your own bible and you could not deny it, even your brother agree that Jehovah is God's name!

God has many names in English.
"I Am that I Am" is the name God had given to Moses.. You haven't shown any evidence to prove otherwise that God's only name is Jehovah.

so God gave moses two names abi? Go and read those verses again and see how many names God gave to moses!

The Telragramaton consist of 4 Hebrew letters "YODH-HE-WAW" And he repeated. Some versions of the bible translate the Telragrammaton as "Yehwah or Jehovah" Most translate it as "Lord" {All capital letters}
Contrary to what some Christians believe {And at least one cult} Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages
Due to fear of accidentally taken God's name in vain {Leviticus 24:16} The Jews quit saying it out loud altogether, instead of reading scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the Telragrammaton YHWH with the Word Adonai {Lord}.
You should read the bible sometime, or even better, study it? Instead of that comic book you call the Watchtowers magazine.

You are the biggest liar on earth, go read the manuscripts , the Tetragrammaton is still their!.
you prefer to follow the Jews substitutions rather than follow the original written words of the prophets ,wow!

your own words keep's on exposing you, you claim that the word "LORD GOD", Iso the proper name of God, now you expose yourself with the source of the Hebrew word translated to " lord" in English. IN YOUR OWN WORDS, YOU CLAIM THAT HEBREW WORD IS A SUBSTITUTE, NOT THE ORIGINAL!

chiwendu123:
Arguing and defending what you don't know,now I have questions for d JW concerning you belief
1 did you want to tell me that God does not know grammar in Genesis 1:26 he said let us make man can one be us? pls explain what john 1:1-3 ljohn 5:7there are three that bear record in heaven the father,word and the spirit and these are one

1.God knew what he was saying . When God said " let us make make man in our image" , he was not talking to himself , he was talking to other spirit creatures he used in the creation, for example the scriptures tells us that God used his son in the creation, he was God's master worker.
[b]King James Version
Heb 1:2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
*you can read from verse 1
* some translations say : " through whom".
The statement does not support trinity, for God is not talking to himself , and if God was talking to another God, then it means their is more than one God almighty. The believe that God is a multiple person is not plausible and the verse never surppoted such beliefs.

2. John 1: 1-3 helps us to understand that jesus was a god who was with the almighty God, that jesus had a beginning . You can't be the same person you are with !
3. The words you quoted about 1 John 5 :7 have been discovered to be false additions to the scriptures , and most subsequent translations have removed it, knowing it is false , the correct translations is : "For there are three witness bearers:" or " there are three that bear witness" .
Trinitarians who could not find a scripture that directly supports their doctrine and have been forced to only rely on derived analogy inserted those words, apostle John never said those words!

2 you say the meek will inherit d earth according to Mathew 5:5 who are the meek and which earth are u going to inherit?

Jehovahs witnesses did not say the meek ones will inherit the earth , the scriptures said so, and Im of the view that you accept, agree and belief what the scriptures said!
Ps 37:9For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth.
Ps 37:11[u]But the meek will possess the earth,[/u] And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

The residence will not be temporary , it will be forever:
[b]Ps 37:29The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.

they will be upright and blameless :
Pr 2:21For only the upright will reside in the earth, And the blameless will remain in it

Like you read in verse 9, the meek ones are those who loyally serve Jehovah to the end! either the end of their lives or the end of this wicked system of things.
The earth is reffering to this planet earth, Jehovah created it for a purpose and he will fulfil that purpose :
Isa 45:18For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, [u]but formed it to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.
Mt 5:5“Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth.
Re 21:3With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.

For this to be true , the earth will not be destroyed but will remain forever :
Ec 1:4A generation is going, and a generation is coming, But the earth remains forever

Ps 78:69He made his sanctuary as enduring as the heavens, Like the earth that he has established forever.
Ps 104:5He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever.
Ps 119:90Your faithfulness is through all generations. You have firmly established the earth, so that it continues to stand.

3 in the same chapter of mathew 5 kingdom of God was mentioned many times and hell also

The translation of gehenna as hell has caused a lot of issues, most interesting is the use of that verse by those who believe in hell fire.
let me ask you, do you believe that a human body can go to hell?, Think carefully about the answer, already most people who posted on these thread and who belief in hellfire do not think so!.

4 you believe 144000 will go to heaven what about the uncountable number from all nations,kindred,tongue that stood before s throne in the same chapter of revelation 7:9-15

They will inherit the earth, the ones going to heaven are going their for a purpose, to rule!, tell me, who do you think they are going to rule over if not the ones on earth.

5 you have been arguing on this thread about the name of God if I may ask is there any judgments for those that don't call Jehovah, God has many names when God told Moses he said tell pharaoh iam that iam has sent him and in revelation he said iam alpha and omega and many other names. You call Jehovah and he answer you I call him Lord, God and he answer me what is d stress. so he has many names call him the one you want.

be sincere, pls tell me, of all the above , which one did he directly and explicitly tell you that "that is my name" . when you find that out, in whatEva language it is, pls use it! For those who call on the name ( not names) of God will be saved!, so go look up the scriptures and find out God's name( the one he directly told you)

Yes you go about preaching is good but if may ask what is the content of your message condemning other religion's doctrine, and events, telling stories but christ told his followers to preach the kingdom of God and repentance of sin

Jehovah , seeks the meek ones, those who search for truth, to show them the truth, one also has to show as explain to them the false teachings, so that they can make a decisive choice, either to follow the truth or to believe man made philosophies that comes from derived analogy!

I've shown you what the scriptures say, some will tell you not to follow it , but will not give you an alternative, they will not reveal where they gather to worship or the legal name of the congregation/church they gather at, they will not even invite you to come to their gatherings.

brocab:

1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it, 
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

false accuser, just look at your continual confusion and lies


I said "you cannot produce quotes where you factually showed that Jehovah doesn't mean God"
and you replied "I never said Jehovah means the name of God!," ha ha you use every means you can think of to lie oh big false accuser

and of course you couldn't produce the quote talked about, because there isn't one, you do the lying and then falsely accuse of lying, don't you false jw copycat

before you confuse your self go and look at your post that you posted by  6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post you stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

Now the issue is , did dolphinheart make such statement? The answer is no , johnw74 false accuse dolphinheart of making that statement! he could also not provide where he saw dolphinheart make such statement.
dolphinheart request that such lies should be retracted! good Christians don't make false accusations!

I said "Strongs dictionary doesn't say a lot of things but it did show:
Jehovah means the self existent"

Good, then listen to others who tell you more about Jehovah and go about formulating theories the dictionary did not tell you.
It is a fact that the Strongs dictionary never said
1. Jehovah means God" or
3. "self existant means God"

You lie lie replied "the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!"

The strong dictionary never made that statement

false jw your confusion in your every post is caused by your lying in your every post.

yet you could not point to one place I lied

duh, Jehovah is "the" name for God-Jehovah is "a" name for God,
Yahweh is "the" name for God, Yahweh is "a" name for God,
I AM is "the" name for God, I AM is "a" name for God, and there are more
saying Jehovah is a name for God is correct,
if a dictionary doesn't explain it all then you are lost,
you cannot think for yourself, and you are so confused
your lies that you argue about are to run away from the subject "Jehovah means God"

continue in your self formulated theory , I'll prefer to follow the concensus( which the KJV is part of) that Jehovah/yahweh/YHWH is the name of God!

an example, sure, I will give you more than one, you twist what is said, you change the subject, you play on words and use every means to lie and avoid the truth just like your god does,
you wan't to see them again, look back through my posts and see all the lies you tell, and all the methods you use to lie, I have pointed some out so it shouldn't be to hard for you,
also often when something is said you reply to something else, as in the start of this post,
such a lie lie, you think of all the ways to lie, oh great lie lie.

pls give an example!

[qoute]Yes you edited your post, there was no typo there, you either came to the same conclusion as me and when I pointed it out you changed it, or you agreed with me in your confused and lying state[/quote]You can worry about why I edited it all you want, I know I did not add a particular word, and I've added it!

"that jehovah is the only self existant God"
those are my words not a dictionarys, you such a lie lie
mind you, you are so confused through lying and cannot tell what is mine and what is the dictionarys hee hee

Good that you agreed with me that the dictionary you quoted never said "Jehovah is the only self existant God."

no it won't and you still haven't learnt that

and truly Jehovah is the only self existent God,
and truly you have been saying Jehovah doesn't mean God, what a huge lie lie false accuser you are

No source you have presented ever said the underlined above, then they come from your confused mind , you have not presented anyone else who made that statement!

oh confused one try and understand what I said, it's very straight forward with no twisting like you practise, here it is again:
"by the way the Strongs dictionary gives meaning to the word Jehovah,
according to Strongs, Jehovah means the self existent,
lie lie changes it to Jehovah "is" the self existent,
and whereas that also is true, lie lie trys to evade that Jehovah also means the self existent,
not just is the self existent, but means the self existent."

so tell me confused one,
is one of these sentences false:

Jehovah is the self existent?
Jehovah mean the self existent?

you are so used to lying, twisting what is said, changing the subject etc etc that you
cannot understand plain honest language, it is foreign to you

simple question, yet you refuse to answer :
"I wonder how you understand what you wrote, the dictionary also , Imediately after that, in the same sentence says "Jewish national name of God", are you saying jehovah means that too!"

ha ha oh confused lie lie accuser, God said His name is YHWH,
God is also called Almighty God and LORD, and other,
a word can be both a title and a name

He also said His name is I AM

Exo 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 
Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 

I AM also is a name for God, lie lie

Excerpts from the Wikipedia(read carefully,expecially the underlined)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPS among others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" in Hebrew; ehyeh is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I am" or "I will be" (or "I shall be", for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Am Who I Am." The ancient Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 lacks a future tense as modern English does, yet a few translations render this name as "I Will Be What I Will Be", given the context of Yahwehpromising to be with his people through their future troubles.......
........The word Ehyeh is considered by many rabbinical scholars to be a first-person derivation of the Tetragrammaton, see for example Yahweh..........

......The word AahYah is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is often translated as "I will be" – as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3 – or "I shall be," as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. [color=red]Used by God to identify himself in the burning bush, the importance placed on the phrase stems from the Hebrewconception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing)........[/b]
* compare the above with the meaning with the dictionary use of the word " self existent or eternal"

[b]........... Some scholars state that the Tetragrammaton itself derives from the same verbal root, following a rabbinical interpretation of Exodus 3:14, but others counter that it may simply sound similar as intended by God........Whether the Holy Name (written as YHWH) is derived from AahYah or whether the two are individual concepts is a subject of debate among historians and theologians........
........In appearance, it is possible to render YHWH (יהוה) as an archaic third person singular imperfect form of the verb ahyah(אהיה) "to be" meaning, therefore, "He is". It is notably distinct from the root El, which can be used as a simple noun to refer to the creator deity in general, as in Elohim, meaning simply "God" (or gods). This interpretation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — AahYah "I am". Other scholars regard the triconsonantal root of hawah (הוה) as a more likely origin for the name Yahweh.[/u][/color][/b]
*hope you are understanding the relationship between the name jehovah/yaweh/ YHWH and " I am that I am/ I will be what I will be"

Now let's go back to the dictionaries and look again at the word " Jehovah"

[b]Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Jehovah'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". . 1997.
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [H] [S]
the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [adonai]) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews ( Exodus 6:2 Exodus 6:3 ). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Leviticus 24:16 . The meaning of the word appears from Exodus 3:14 to be "the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God," the "I am that I am," a convenant-keeping God.(Compare Malachi 3:6 ; Hosea 12:5 ; Revelation 1:4 Revelation 1:8 .)


Dictionaries - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [E] [H]
(I am; the eternal living one ). The Scripture appellation of the supreme Being, usually interpreted as signifying self-derived and permanent existence. The Jews scrupulously avoided every mention of this name of God, substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel-points it may happen to be written. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of ( Leviticus 24:16 ) from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offence. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year, by the high priest on the day of atonement when he entered the holy of holies; but on this point there is some doubt. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name which he should give as the credentials of his mission: "And God said unto Moses, "I AM THAT I AM (ehyea asher ehyeh ); and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." That this passage is intended to indicate the etymology of Jehovah, as understood by the Hebrews, no one has ventured to doubt. While Elohim exhibits God displayed in his power as the creator and governor of the physical universe, the name Jehovah designates his nature as he stands in relation to man, as the only almighty, true, personal, holy Being, a spirit and "the father of spirits," ( Numbers 16:22 ) comp. John 4:24 who revealed himself to his people, made a covenant with them, and became their lawgiver, and to whom all honor and worship are due.[/b]

THEREFORE JOHNW74, GOD DID NOT GIVE MOSES TWO NAMES , BUT GAVE MOSES ONE NAME, " I AM THAT I AM" BEING AN ETYMOLOGY OF THAT NAME , THE VERSES SAY:

Ex 3:13But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
Ex 3:14So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’”
Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT GOD SAID " THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER " AND NOT THIS ARE MY NAMES FOREVER".

To support this , look at the song Moses sang with other Israelites who ye told God's name :
Ex 15:2My strength and my might is Jah, since he has become my salvation. This is my God, and I will praise him; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME

ha ha you keep showing that you have no understanding at all oh false accuser



ha ha your confusion is unbelievable.
you are changing the subject again, it's Jehovah means God

and yes I will show you again in my next post to you

simple request, provide the source of your statement.

whenever I say Jehovah means God, you often reply with "Jehovah is the name of God"
now we all know that, so if you were not meaning that Jehovah means the name of God
then why was that your reply oh deceiving one

imagine, so your accusations against me is based on derived understand of what I said, the truth is that I never said so but you choosed to understand it so!, your wrong understand is only possible cus you are quite to omit my comMon reply : "Jehovah does not mean God" .

duh that's what I have been doing and what you don't understand
replying with lies confusion twisting and all means of lying available to you.

if you have you should have seen that the Hebrew word for God is different from the Hebrew word for Jehovah!

It's true false jw, I have never come across a bigger lie lie than you in all of N/forums

what kind of proof do you want me to produce?

just show one instance that I lied with proof

ha ha you only have to go to the top of this post where I showed that you said Jehovah doesn't mean God
and to which you replied: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,

then you lie lie said: pls pls stop lying against me!

you way big false accuser lie lie dolphinheart, just like your god satan


satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

so what the lie there, at no point did I say " Jehovah does not mean the name of God" , if I ever maDe that statement , pls show where I said it, quote me and tell me the post you quoted.

you lie lie only believe the few words given in the dictionary, that's everything you think
the dictionary doesn't say exactly "Jehovah means God" in it's few words of meaning, so it doesn't, duh

you cannot think for yourself and are taught to believe what your church of satan tells you
you believe what men tell you through the witchpower magazine
you lie, accuse, twist, and do everything that your father satan does, who is a liar and the father of it
you have been taught and learned well your false doctrines, and is why you are confused with truth and why the truth is not in you.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

good that you agreed that the dictionaries did not say " Jehovah means God", those who fomulated false teachings from their minds without recourse to the scriptures as guide are those who thought that Jehovah means God!,

solite3:
]that is your own understanding, [/b]the verse never said so!, note the verse only identifies the father as the only true God, it did not say God is the only true God. The verse also separates the person of jesus from the father! @bold my understanding? Is this below my understanding also?

These are my own words, even though they are true, why do I find them in your post when I quote you?

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

This verse has completely expose you.

We will know if this is true after you have answered the questions about God being in the midst of God's , about Pauls statement of God's in heaven!

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;[b[b]] I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.[[/b]/b]

And this is dolphinheart statement below

their are other God's apart from the Almighty God.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Jehovah said there is know other God besides him.
Dolphineart is just like his father the devil who twist Jehovah's word.
Your father would be proud of you dolphinheart.

John 8:44 [color=#990000]Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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why are you afraid to answer the questions raised, cus it will show how wrong you are!

The verse also corresponds with all the other verses in the scriptures where jesus and the disciples identified the father as the one God, as their God and the only true God. And if Jehovah is the only true God what does that make other so called gods?

I don't understand you, why do you mix my own words with yours?.

1. Are you saying God is in the midst of false God's? Jehovah is not in the midst of other gods.

Ps 82:1God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods he judges:
explain the above verse!

check this out:
De 10:17 For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the God great, mighty, and awe-inspiring, who treats none with partiality and does not accept a bribe.
Is Jehovah a God of false God's? answer : NO!, So who are the gods that Jehovah is a God of?

2. cus stating the disciples statement in full will expose you, so you cut off who they identified as the one God? they said : there is actually to us one God, the Father! actually it exposes you cause you are the one who said there are other gods beside the father.
what a shame?

so the father alone is the only true God, pls pls pls, follow it, it is true!, don't add another person to the true God!

The father is the one God jesus and the disciples worship, that means your one God is different from the one God of the disciples. And yet the father called Jesus God.

these are my words and they are true!

We also know that jesus is the mediator between us and that one God, always pleading for us at the side of that one God!, so jesus is not that one God!
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, òa man, Christ Jesus,
Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.
Almighty god is not at the right hand of himself pleading to himself! stop the false derived teachings solite3. And yet that same Jesus is the most high.
So pathetic you keep referring to Jesus as a man and yet you think he is an angel. Blindman

most parts of the quote above are mine, jesus is not the God is is sitting beside , jesus does not plead with himself , jesus is not the mediator to himself!
No verse in the scriptures ever said jesus is the most high!

so which heaven was that verse talking about?
who did that verse identify as our God?
who did jesus identify as the only true God?
Note, refusal to answer these questions will end our discussion for a while. hahahaha.
blindman

like I said, this ends our discussion, you refuse to answer questions posted to you.

pls confirm if the following answers are right or wrong, your refusal to confirm means they are right
1. did jesus say he and the father are one God?
2. Did jess request that his disciples be one just as he and the father are one? Yes
3. does the disciples being one mean they are one person or human? No
4. did jesus request that the disciples become one with him and the father? Yes
5. Does this mean they become God? no?
6. does this mean they become one God or part of the persons in one god? No Jesus is God.
Ans
1.yes Jesus implied that he and his father is one God.
The Jesus did not correct the people when they said he is claming equality with God.
2. No Jesus did not request his disciples to be one but prayed to his father to make them one and to the best of my knowledge there is nothing God cannot do.

3.to be one can mean one entity. The disciple where one creature!

4.Jesus did request for the disciples to be one with he and his father.

1. so jesus did not say he and the father are one God, but you claim he implied it( which is still wrong when you consider other instances where jesus made similar statements)
Are you sure jesus was not correcting them when he explained what he said, he said he is God's son, not that he is equal to God!, if jesus is equal to God, then it means jesus is not God, but someone else equal to God! your arguments keep on failing when scrutinised .
If I'm equal to you, it automatically means I AM NOT YOU!.

2.You are a very dubious person , always cutting the important parts that expose you off.
so his prayer was not a request, pls tell me what it is?
you are quick to cut what jesus requested(or prayed ) for off, what did jesus pray for , that his disciples become one just as him and the father are one. Does this mean that jesus is implying that they become One God? pls answer o!
You say their is nothing impossible for God to do, are you saying that when God's accepts jesus prayer, he will make the disciples almighty God too?

3. The question was quite simple and straight forward, but dubious behavior will not allow you respond straight, I asked you : does the disciples being one mean that they are one person or human? are the disciples one person or human when they become one?

4. look at your answer to question 2 and 4 and see how dubious you are, now pls what happened to 5 and 6, will wait for you answer those ones too if we are to continue this discussion!

IF THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS ARE CORRECT, THEN IT MEANS BEING ONE WITH ANOTHER DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE ONE PERSON, ONE GOD OR ONE ENTITY!


The shame is on you, cus you could not agree with the scriptures that the father is the only true God. actually shame on the man who said there are other gods besides Jehovah and shame on the man who called satan God.
answer to your question: jesus , and the angels . They are all spirits!, they are called god, gods.
shame on the one who called angels gods.

@bold where is that in the bible?
satan witness

American Standard Version
For thou hast made him but little lower than God, And crownest him with glory and honor.
King James version
Ps 8:5For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
before you start a blind argument , take time to look at the Hebrew word translated to " angels" by the kjv and look up how they used it in other verses!

furthermore, one of your arguing points is that the son of man is man, the son of God is God, well angels are called Sons of God too, deal with that issue:
King James Version
Ge 6:2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 1:6Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them.
Job 38:7When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?

being abusive with the use of derogatory words will not stop me from asking you to answer the question!
who is the God of this world as mentioned in 2 cor 4:4? telling you the truth is an abuse?
That's right using capital letter G for satan but using small letter g for Jesus.
Your god dolphinheart is Satan.

Stop being evasive, answer the question, who is the god of these system of things?
I've told you who my God is, he is the father , and the father alone, not a three in one God!

[s]simple question , you prefer to rant than to answer![/s] dolphinheart child of the devil and enemy of the gospel.

Repent or perish!

answer the questions and stop being dubious

brocab:
And your lies are travelling across the nations, to the place called Hell, where someday you may spend eternity.
{Psalms 83:16-18} Sounds better O lord..
Dolphinheart how many times do we need to show you scriptures-and which bible I use? Have we not been using the KJV in all our comments?
And not the New World Translation bible-thank God for that-the NWT Bible is full of twisted scriptures { Other words it's full of lies and wonders}

1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it,
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!

brocab:
I am so glad I don't believe in your doctrine.
With the many confused statements you have written-it seems, not even you have studied your own doctrine clearly.

1. When you lay accusations, supply it with facts and proof! you have a preference of laying false accusations that you always run away from when asked to defend them!

2. pls respond to the issues raised in that post, stop running away from them:
"You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, 

pls tell , are these words found In your bible in these verse!. If not pls tell us the bible you use and post the words in the verse: 
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

[quote author=solite3 post=50954198][/quote]modify the post so I can respond!, also endeavor to respond to the questions and issues asked!

brocab:
The word Jehovah is used only 7 times not only Jehovah is a name, it is also a place. God had many personal names-Jehovah is just one name, mixed together from all different languages. It is only the JW's who had added Jehovah's name throughout their bible.

1. why is the word "Jehovah" used ONLY 7 TIMES when the Hebrew word it was translated from occurs OVER 6000 TIMES in the scriptures, why only select seven of it and omit thousands more?
2. Are you saying that the transLation of the Hebrew word " YHWH" to "Jehovah" in every case it occurs in the Hebrew manuscripts is wrong?
3. Why does your bible prefer to reduce the number times they translated the tetragrammaton to Jehovah if not to support the devil in hiding God's name?

Which is silly, you believe your bible is the only bible that exist-while the other bibles don't exist.

1. have I not used the kjv and other translations for you?
2. was it not you who called the word " Jehovah" silly? A word you had to later agree was used by the translators of the bible you agree with ?,
3. Did the translators of your bible use a silly word?

Your bible doesn't even hold the Spirit Of God-instead your bible had changed the Word Of God from the beginning to the end, your bible is unscriptural, it's a lie from the beginning-scholars that wrote your bible were men without God.
Most bibles don't even mention the name Jehovah-instead they called Him by His proper name "Lord God"
No-one is interested in your beliefs-other then the JW's, For a name that you believe is God's personal name-the bibles had surely made a mockery out from under you.
God has many names in English.
"I Am that I Am" is the name God had given to Moses.. You haven't shown any evidence to prove otherwise that God's only name is Jehovah.

First let's start with the Hebrew word for " I am that I am" can you provide it?
Can you also provide the verses where God said his name is " I am that I am"

The Telragramaton consist of 4 Hebrew letters "YODH-HE-WAW" And he repeated. Some versions of the bible translate the Telragrammaton as "Yehwah or Jehovah" Most translate it as "Lord" {All capital letters}
Contrary to what some Christians believe {And at least one cult} Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages

STOP BEING A DUBIOUS FELLOW BROCAB
Jehovah is how the English speaking people pronounce the divine name of God, other languages use other ways to pronounce that name!
your dubious behavior is evident when you accept that jesus is the divine name given to Mary, of cus you know it not pronounced or written as jesus, but that is how English people pronounce and spell it! your dubious behavior is sky high!

Due to fear of accidentally taken God's name in vain {Leviticus 24:16} The Jews quit saying it out loud altogether, instead of reading scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the Telragrammaton YHWH with the Word Adonai {Lord}.
You should read the bible sometime, or even better, study it? Instead of that comic book you call the Watchtowers magazine.

Is quitting or refusing to use God's name what God wants?
where you not supposed to follow gods directive and how his followers used the name?
will doing Gods will not prevent you from using his name in vain?

examples where given to your more than 6000 times(nearly 7000 times) , but you preffered not to follow those examples and decided to go against God's will concerning his name that he directly revealed to you!, You decided to follow the ways of men who do not serve God!

GOD REVEALED HIS NAME, HE WANTED HIS SERVANTS TO USE IT!
HIS SERVANTS USED THAT NAME MORE THAN 6000 TIMES! AND RECORDED IT'S USE!
YOU WENT AGAINST THOSE TWO THINGS ABOVE TO FOLLOW THE WAYS OF MEN, TO GO AGAINST GOD'S WILL.

WHAT IS GOD'S WILL ABOUT HIS NAME AND WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE TELL US:
God himself said this:
Ps 91:14God said: “Because he has affection for me, I will rescue him. I will protect him because he knows my name.
* God said "name" and not "names"!, plus tell us what name God was referring to if not the name he gave and was recorded by his Faithfull servants almost 7000 times until your forefathers came and decided that the actions of such Faithfull servants of God causes them fear!

Faithfull servants of God said this :
De 32:3 For I will declare the name of Jehovah. Tell about the greatness of our God!
* you on the other hand prefer to follow those who chose to hide God's name cus of fear, using it only seven times out of almost 7000 times!

jesus says:
Joh 17:6“ I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.
Joh 17:26 I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
* you on the other hand are trying vigorously to hide the name that jesus wanted to make known to all, trying to imply that jesus lied, that he did not make it known, by following the Jews who did not want to serve God to alter God's name to a title. YOU DO THIS CUS IT HELPS YOUR MAN MADE DOCTRINE!

Contrary to your wish, God's servants will do this :
Ps 22:22 I will declare your name to my brothers; In the midst of the congregation I will praise you.

Ac 15:14Symʹe·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.
Heb 2:12as he says: “I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you with song.”

Brocab, if you do not want people to know God's name, how do you want people to sanotify his name, remember, jesus called the father his God, the scriptures identify the father as the God of jesus and our God!
Mt 6:9“You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified

You should do well and heed the scriptures :
Joe 2:32 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved;For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as Jehovah has said, The survivors whom Jehovah calls.”

And what name is that:
[b]Ps 83:18 May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah,You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Ex 6:3And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.

Isa 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images.[/color]

brocab are you among those Faithfull servants of God who declare God's name or are you among those who call Jehovah's name silly?

NOTE: again you could not adress these issues
"Evidence upon evidence keeps mounting on how much of a liar you are, you accuse me of saying God's name is written 6000 times, but when asked to provide proof that I said so, you ran away from the issue!
I also asked you to show where I said " jehovah is not the name of God," You could not show it, brocab, someone who lies like you has no conscience! 

I know you run away from questions all the time 
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!?

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

duh the same repeated lies from you over and over again

yet you cannot produce quotes where you factually showed that Jehovah doesn't mean God,
produce just one quote lie lie dolphinheart where you factually showed that Jehovah doesn't mean God.

It is proven that your accusations are lies, I never said Jehovah means the name of God!, so pls pls stop lying against me!

duh the Strongs dictionary doesn't say a lot of things but it did show:
Jehovah means the self existent, and Christians know that the self existent means God
self existent(adjective) describes God, the self existent(noun) means God

no where have you showN any statement made by anyone but you and your kind that jehovah means God!
GO LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF GOD, IT WILL HELP YOU!
Even the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!

But I do understand how false jw doesn't believe Jehovah means God

continue with your self formulated theory

ha ha who doesn't know Jehovah is the-a name for God, it has not been disputed here even once
but you keep changing the subject post after post, day after day, running away from "Jehovah means God"

if everybody knows that jehovah is a name for God and not the numerous examples posted that says jehovah is the name of God. then it should be easy to give us several scolars, dictionaries and bible verses that said so , I've provided several that said " jehovah is the name of God, you've provided non that says " jehovah is a name for God" .

such a twister-lie lie, using every means of lying you can invent

Give an example

lie lie, a typo is a mispelling or similar,
saying something diffrent or using diffrent words or leaving out words is confusion.

It has been corrected, go see it!

a typo ha ha such a lie lie, and look at the underlined:
"that jehovah is the only self existant God does not mean jehovah means God!"

you have started altering what the dictionary told you, the dictionary never said the underlined statement above, don't add words pls.

ha ha, Jehovah means the only self existent God, but Jehovah doesn't means God

Repeating a lie multiple times will not make it true!

by the way the Strongs dictionary gives meaning to the word Jehovah,
according to Strongs, Jehovah means the self existent,
lie lie changes it to Jehovah "is" the self existent,
and whereas that also is true, lie lie trys to evade that Jehovah also means the self existent,
not just is the self existent, but means the self existent.

I wonder how you understand what you wrote, the dictionary also , Imediately after that, in the same sentence says "Jewish national name of God", are you saying jehovah means that too!

such a huge lie lie deceiver you are.


duh such a confused lie lie, if God had only one name then I couldn't say Jehovah is "a" name for God
but as He has many names I am correct and you remain confused

God said to moses, tell them I am has sent you
God said before I was known as YHWH I was known as God Almighty

1. quote the verse and see it expose you.
2. God told you his name directly, not names given to him, what is that name?, you have refused to show us where God says this is my name and the name or names he mentioned.
3. you are confused, being known as almighty God does not mean almighty God is his name, as a king, someone will be know as king, but it does not mean his name Is king!

you lie lie keep changing the subject to many other things in your running away from "Jehovah means God"

in all my post to you, I keep telling you that jehovah does not mean God. none of the dictionaries ever made that statement, and neither could you provide a dictionary that said so!, it was derived from your wrong understand.

no lie lie, never altered dictionary or Bible at all

Then provide the source of your statement if it's not to alter what has been shown to you that jehovah is the name of God!

but I have agreed many times that Jehovah means the name of God,
however your lying accusations have no end.

you and who reached such false agreement ! provide proof pls.

As you know that is not the only meaning the dictionary gives for Jehovah
it also gives that Jehovah means the self existent which is what I have been talking about from the beginning
and which you have been trying to confuse and run away from ever since.

GO AND STUDY THE WORD JEHOVAH AND GOD, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BETTER.

If there is a bigger lie lie in the whole of N/forums than lie lie dolphinheart,
then I have not come across him.

always making accusations without providING proof

You are a copy cat and false accuser

whereas I truly say:

how you do love to lie and take after your god.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

show where I have accused you falsely!

brocab:
Well Jehovah isn't the name of God, it's the Lord.

1. You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, 
2. You are totally lost sir!, even Jehovah himself said that is his name!, in Hebrew ,the word translated to Lord is different, it is not found in verse where God told us his name!

pls tell , are these words found In your bible in these verse!. If not pls tell us the bible you use and post the words in the verse:
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

brocab:
You don't even know what the telegrammaton is?

you always find an excuse not to answer the questions or issues at hand. okay pls tell me what telegrammaton is (customers I don't know tetragrammaton it is, I only know tetragrammaton.

After that answer the questions asked :

brocab, be sincere, which kjv version are you using, and does the word Jehovah appear in that version?
If the name Jehovah appears in the translation that you fully accepted , do you view the use of that word as silly?

Secondly , I'll like to ask you, what name did God tell you directly that he bears, he told us directly that "this is my name".

brocab:
The JW's are still blaming the bible. 7 times is my answer.
The KJV translators used the name Jehovah wherever the name Yahweh was found, under one of the following 3 conditions.
{1} When YHWH was used as God's personal name.
{Exodus 6:3} And I appeared unto Abraham unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God almighty, but by My name Jehovah was I not known to them.
{Psalms 83:18} That men may know that thru, whom's name alone Jehovah art the most high over all the Earth.
{2} When God's name is repented as Jah "Jehovah"
{Isaiah 12:2} Behold, God is My Salvation, I will trust and not be afraid, for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song, He also become my Salvation. This scripture tells it as sound-Jesus is Lord Jehovah and He also be my salvation.
{Isaiah 26:4} Trust ye, in the Lord forever, for the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength.
{3} When God's name is part of a place name.
Jehovah Jireh
{Genesis 22;14} And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah Jireh, as it said to this day, in the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.
Jehovah nissi
{Exodus 17:15} And Moses built an altar, and called the name of Jehovah nissi.
Jehovah Slamom
{Judges 6:24} Then Gideon built an altar there unto the Lord, and called it Jehovah Slamom: unto this day it is yet an Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites.
So Jehovah's name isn't just about the Lord, it's about a place.

Kai!!!!, So your bible used that word " jehovah", a word you claim to be silly. you have degenerated to a point I can't fanthom.
imagine you saying they translate YHWH as Jehovah when it was used as God's personal name, your statement means they refuse to translate YHWH in all occasions it occurs as Jehovah , choosing to use flimsy excuse to decide how they will translate God's name. Do you see how low you have Gone, allowing sentiments and false doctrine to determine when you will or will not translate a particular Hebrew word.

Unfortunately for you, Jehovah is not used as God's personal name, it is God's personal name, he himself says " that is my name" it is not a name you can decide to use or not to use!

evidence upon evidence keeps mounting on how much of a liar you are, you accuse me of saying God's name is written 6000 times, but when asked to provide proof that I said so, you ran away from the issue!
I also asked you to show where I said " jehovah is not the name of God," You could not show it, brocab, someone who lies like you has no conscience!

I know you run away from questions all the time
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!?

brocab:
Am I suppose to answer this-after you have tamped with my page..And it is not 6000 times Dolphinheart it's over 6800 times Lord is written in the Bible-and Jehovah 7 times, some say 4 times.

1.Issue has been corrected , so answer the questions there.
2. I've searched, there is no where I said the God's name is written 6000 times. If I'm wrong, pls show proof, or it adds to the numerous lies you have been spilling on these thread!
3. pls does your bible use "jehovah" a name you claim is silly!, where they wrong to use the word?

And really if this is God's true name-instead of Lord-then His name would be written in all the bibles, but it isn't. It's Lord all God in the English Language.
God had told me who He is, "I Am that I Am..Meaning He is.

good you mentioned this , more and more translations are stopping this attempt by some to remove God's name from the scriptures and replace it with a title!
The good is realities who wrote the Hebrew scriptures put God's name their, the evil ones replaced it with a title, God said he wants his name known!

Their are many names given to God-and in most bible's in the English language we Only see his name as Lord all God the Father.
As you have been saying to Johnw74 Jehovah isn't the name of God, nor He is the name of the Lord?

1. You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, I wonder how your conscience does not pick you when you make up such blatant lies!
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!

This is how silly you sound-you believe in Jehovah but he isn't either of the above.
Different languages have their own names-Elohim meaning {God} we don't see to many of these names written in most bibles, Yahweh means {Lord Jehovah} El Elyon means {The most high God} Adonai means {Lord Master} El shaddai means {Lord God Almighty} El Oham means {The everlasting God}
And the names keep on Going-So really if you have more sense, which you don't, just these few names have meanings-to them in different languages-and in The English Language it's Lord or it's God the Father in most bibles.
And in your case, Jehovah doesn't mean Lord, nor does it mean God-so what does Jehovah mean to you?

titles are now names to know, see what the kjv have done to you.

solite3:
I tell you.
Dolphinheart has denied that Jehovah is the only God,but recognise the devil as a true god. It all started when he deny the Son Jesus Christ.
Anybody that deny the Son must also deny the father.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

YOUR LIES ARE GIGANTIC, YOU HAVE JOINED THE CREW OF BIG TIME LIARS!

johnw74:
ha ha oh self righteous lie lie dolphinheart

look at how you use every means known to lie, just like your god does


"You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha", <<< is a sentence of mine

and you are making out that you never said that same sentence, no you didn't

you have been posting on Jehovah means the name of God
and you have been posting on Jehovah doesn't mean God

and so my sentence is completely correct:

"You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"


you lie lie dolphinheart love to lie, twist, change the subject, play on words and use every means to lie and avoid the truth just like your god does

Again I will state, stop lying , I never said Jehovah means the name of God!