helinues:


Because North supports their own,, so South should have supported cluelessness? Please dont be carried away with politics.

The same corporate media made use of their channels to do what they did to GEJ just that Buhari have lots of projects to show i most especially in SW.

If you are from SE, please tell me, how did Buhari got more votes in 2019 compared to 2015?

The bolded plus the 2023 ambition is the reason..
Every other thing is just to make up essay. SW was against GEJ because they didn't feel in charge, now that they do, nothing else matters

aribisala0:
Actually We are not bothered check history
What are the Eboes afraid of Let the SW ,SE and SS slug it out competitively? At the end of the day it would surprise both that the SS would win.

The bottomline is the Yoruba do NOT see the Eboes as a relevant factor to them becoming president. The Eboes HAVE ALWAYS been political competitors so long may that continue.

Let the Eboes stop wailing and come to the pitch to contest.


Even from opposition you accuse us of sabotaging the ports in the East

Let me summarize your position

If the Yoruba do not support Eboe presidency then let the North have it

in short you know you can never win it.

The reality is there are Yoruba individuals who covet the position but we are with you on the same page because we will not support you.
It will not happen . The only way we will vote an Eboe man for President is if both APC and PDP field an Eboe. That will not happen

It is the North that eventually whether in 2023 or 2031 that will beg us to lead Nigeria. Why? we are making demonstrable progress in governance with Lagos and Ogun.

We are Marching on with the DAWN agenda.
We have ALWAYS been in opposition so that is very familiar territory for us as Papa Awolowo taught. We can do well without the centre

If I am to be honest I really do not believe that a Yoruba President can protect Yoruba interest because of trying to appear nationalistic.

What we need is a regional champion that is local to help regional development and reduce dependence on the centre.

Do you really believe the presidency is in the priority list of the Igbos? I mean the Igbos as a whole, not the handful of political jobbers. When you respond to this question I will come back to address your points

helinues:


Mr Angel.. And you have never offended anyone before bah?

Do you believe in karma?

shadeyinka:
Hello Sir

I beg to disagree with you here with due respect!
Voting pattern has never been one sided in the west. Except one is not educated...and that is why Tinubu will recon more with the Street Urchins than the intellectuals in winning elections.

Did Yorubas really follow OBJ even though he was one of them?

Read that my comment again. I made mention of two or three strongmen. It is mostly unlikely that all strongmen will agree with one ideology unless it affects their collective existence or interest. In reality, each usually pursue personal agenda so it is impossible to have everybody voting in one direction. It's usually cut almost in half (for two strongmen) as is the case in the SW overall, or two people align to oust the third.

For the Obasanjo part, I can't comment on that but what I read is that the SW tilts in favor of those who are unapologetic about pursing the yoruba agenda while Obasanjo was more of a nationalist.

shadeyinka:

Trust me, you don't know how many Yorubas are simpathetic to the Igbo cause. But you seem more comfortable putting everyone in one straight jacket.

Of course there will always be those FOR, AGAINST and NON-COMMITAL but what is the general sentiment?

Is the Igbos more similar to the Hausa/Fulani?

The truth is that each tribe is different but it doesn't mean that we can't live together. A house divided against itself because of tribal differences cannot stand

My point is, we all have differing values and conflicting interests so the union is not working.

helinues:


Same Yoruba that supported GEJ in 2011 right?

Which is what it ought to be. The north supports their own no matter what. What happens in the North, stays in the North and it should be thesame with the south. The only time a northerner antagonises another northerner in power, it is to take power for himself and not on behalf of the South... Which, by the way, has only happened during military coups... but your people are just too wise for their own good. After the games everybody go count scores.

Let assumed we spear headed media campaign against GEJ in 2015, is it not justifiable?

By principle, the media appeared to have done their job. So why is thesame resource not in play with all the wrongs happening, even far worse than what GEJ was accused of?

Yoruba silent with this government ?? Like Buhari received 75% of votes from SW even with Osinbajo as Vp?

Tell me what I don't know sir/ma

I'm referring to the ever vibrant Yoruba media corporation not the masses

helinues:


You guys may not know it, but you derive joy in bringing others down. You are not interested in 2023 presidency, fine. SW are interested and have been negotiating, fighting, collaborating with other regions. Why not let them try their luck instead of sabotaging?? Huh

Let me burst your head.. Trader moni is for what? Physically delivered social programs headed by Osinbajo.. In Alias Movies, Sloane and Percy are my favourites.

You were making sense till you included the bolded remark. Who started the divide in the south? Yorubas

Who spearheaded the media campaign against the person of GEJ? Yorubas

Let us even agree on the fact that the president is accountable for the failures in his government, so why is thesame Yoruba media silent now with this government beating every bad record of the previous?

Mayor08:

No.. It started before 2015, you guys hated them and even called if a Muslim party.. The hated existed before they were tested

What is the reality on ground at the moment? APC is just a section of PDP who conspired with "outsiders" to take over government in pursuit of whatever agenda that is clearly worse than what was, under the guise of deliverance.

Mayor08:

I understand.. But the extent at which people from the East hate just any Muslim, any one that supports APC is so alarming... There is life after religion and politics.. We are humans first... Hope we get it right some day... Where are you from?

There is no smoke without fire. APC took impunity to the next level but the really disgusting part is when people try to justify clear evil just because...

helinues:


Because is it not given that is why we want to fight for it.. Nothing bad in giving trials..

'You' are not fighting for it bros (or sis), 'you' are only negotiating for it to be given to 'you', which is fine... But the question is if 'you' can live with the consequences of the choices being made. If it's by "fighting" for power, it will not come south in the near future.

helinues:


Truth is always bitter to swallow. SW started preparation for 2023 2 years ago. Aligning and realigning . Power is not given but taken.

Just because SE are not interested in 2023 presidency doesn't mean they should bring those who are interested down for no tangible reasons.

Then you shouldn't be bothered if the north takes it again. Hope you're not banking on the promise Osinbanjo and Fashola campaigned with.. that voting APC will bring power SW in 2023 cos it doesn't seem like "taking".

shadeyinka:

But have we gained much with flouting our differences?
Aren't we not complaining about this Nigeria?

It look alike we all want a great country, but we also are allowing individual, selfish and personal sentiments from clouding our better judgement.

If we sit down to do a strategic analysis, we'll discover that a change in approach is needed.

Even the Bible asks, "Can two walk together except they be agreed?"

Two people are compatible when they share common values...we don't.

Two people who don't share much similarities can live peacefully as long as they respect their differences.

Check which tribe takes it upon themselves to be pointing out which ethnicity is related or unrelated to who and why one people should not be dealing with their relatives then you'll discover where the problem originated from.

shadeyinka:
Hi

Unfortunately, Tinubu, Obasanjo or Oshinbajo do not represent the Yoruba race. The Yorubas are more political independent than you think. That's why votes are not usually homogeneous. If Obasanjo a Yoruba man could be rejected by the Yorubas for being pro North among others how much more people like Tinubu?

The Yorubas are not as politically independent as you think. What you have are two or three strongmen and their followers. The voting pattern depends on who the leaders go for.

I agree with you. The Northern elite are more politically matured than both the East and the Western political leadership. They play on our division to rule over us and they have been succeeding. They even keep their people uneducated and poor so as to be able to use them as a tool against the rest of us.

The problem is that, should the status quo remain?

When leadership isn't about Wisdom and Direction to lead towards greatness should such be made out head? If massive oil deposit bis found in the North, all this problem would not exist. They would have declared Usman Dan Fodio Republic before you say jack!

Is Nigeria workable?
I say yes!
But as a confederacy!

The last sentence captures my thought about overhauling the system. Nigeria is not workable as it is and will only get worse.

Then again, we know the North wants to keep Nigeria by all means because of the oil, the East wants to leave Nigeria because of economic oppression and sabotage... What does the West want and why?

shadeyinka:

One of my best Friends is Igbo (Noble Alu). Don't generalize with a few unfortunate experience. In every part of the country, you have evil people.

True, yet some things cannot be ignored. Every tribe have their basic programming. My tribe is considered domineering because we are goal-oriented and try to impact our immediate environment instead of vice versa.

shadeyinka:
Towards Igbo-Yoruba Unity and Coalition

I am honestly dismayed by the apparent display of gross "self-centredness" and "myopicness" of Igbos and Yorubas on Nairaland.

The only thing I know is wrong with these two tribes is the Rivalry of who is the greatest tribe between. Both tribes claim sound Education, Intelligence, Commerce, Industry, Exposure and Ability unfortunately, the game of division is making the two tribes "Stupidly Foolish".

I disagree with this statement. What we are experiencing now is that a well packaged propaganda and exaggerations previously sold to us are being punctured all round since the dawn of the internet. Yorubas made the rest of us believe they are all that, now it is becoming clearer by the day.

The Hausa/Fulani seem to understand this division and hence use it to their own advantage even though they are considered as inferior. They have even come out boldly to announce that 2023 still belong to them and by all common sense, they are correct.

They are the real political geniuses.

Why can't the Igbos and Yorubas unite for once? In 2023, Tinubu or Oshinbajo would want to be President. A minimum of 27 Igbo politicians would want to be President. The East and West votes would be fragmented. The North usually vote in a block. I think you can see the obvious answer.

My submission.
1. Let the Yorubas forget the presidency for 2023 but let the Igbos nominate about 6-8 candidates for the West to choose whom to support amongst them.
2. Let the East support whoever of the lot the West adopt.
3. Finally, let the coalition work upon the Middle belt and the Minorities in the North.

I honestly think that its high time we had an Igbo president for the progress of this country.
Nothing else will work except this coalition is made to work. Peace.
What do you think?

NB:
If you read this and you are still bent on East-West division, your bigotry, myopicness and stupidity is without cure!

The question is, Is Nigeria workable?
It is not about who becomes president but overhauling the system. When the system is functional, it makes an incompetent person look good, if a system is dysfunctional, even a genius will be rubbished.

simplycarro:


This is a typical Ibo that has lived all his life in the east

Yet he states the painful reality...

Let me put things in perspective for you with a personal experience.
My closest friends while in both primary and secondary school were Yorubas. I'll skip the experience from primary school as childish attitudes but my bossom friend in secondary school, I recall that we always had issues consistently, most times we don't speak to each other (or rather, he doesn't speak to me) for days...

Reason: Class performance

I am the kind of person who brags about my friend's achievements to others and sing their praises to high heavens, he doesn't neglect any opportunity to rub it in my face that he is "better than me".

Is he better than me? Not necessarily important to me at the time. Did I feel bad? Nope, I laughed it off as normal yabbings...

But at any instant I outperform him, fiam! I become his enemy. I heard he badmouthed me on several occasions...yet when his head cools I just forgive him and act like nothing happened. I was that naive, he's my best friend nah.

Fast-forward to all my other experiences later on even down to the office, when it comes to sabotage, green (as in the raw) envy and conspiracy, the Yorubas are second to none.

I had a clash with an old colleague (yet another Yoruba) at work one time. The person came to me to discuss an issue and how we ought to address it, know fully well that I don't shy away from taking a stand on what I feel strongly about. After the whole discussion and gingering, time to deliver, paddy faded into the background waiting for me to stick my neck and take the fall. Out of disgust I called out the person there and then and lambasted the person. After the meeting I received several personal mails saying I shouldn't have done what I did, I should have just covered up... I laughed.

Guess what, all the senders were Yorubas... the only other mail from a colleague from the middle belt said "Guy you dey vex o, buh I like wetin you do. See that XYZ wan set you up sha. Just be careful of those people"

By "those people" I'm sure you know what was meant.

A company I worked in started doing promotion by transfer because of several reports of gang up and sabotage in their office in Ibadan. Once someone is interested in your position and you're not from their ethnicity, they either sabotage you for sack or if there's real bad blood, you'll be poisoned.

What am I saying in essence?
Igbos and Yorubas can NEVER align, there's just no basis for it. Worst still, trust is not in their code of ethics. They betray you and think they're wise.

These days I am wary of deeply associating with Yorubas...I have a lot of them as acquaintances but it ends there. Only a few have proved themselves to some extent. I have no apologies to that.

PS: I was born and brought up in the west so I know what I'm talking about.

Whiteangel1234:
This is to inform us all that the suspected killer of Enugu cleric, Prophet Anthony Nwoko, a Pro Biafra supporter has gone underground, our BNYL special investigative team was able to track his true identity such as his names, origin, and his pictures, investigation reveals he is not from Enugu but a neighboring Igbo State bordering Enugu.
I gave them two weeks to track every necessary information needed for operations, but fortunately some vital information has been gathered before a week.
These perpetrators both in Port Harcourt and Enugu will not go scot free.
Our intelligent team will continue to search his whereabouts, soon as we track his location we will send "Men To Man Up" in Enugu.
This is a taboo, brother killing fellow brother for selfish reasons, whereas Fulani has been killing us, we have come out for that cult group operating within the Biafran structure.
As soon as we send "Men To Man Up" for final showdown which might be month end, or anytime we track his whereabouts I will make it vox pop.
If we find it difficult locating him, our suspect, we will have to conduct the final showdown at Nike against the informants, they should know his root.

We must deal mercilessly with those involved.

According to the "report",
There was a squad..
The subject in the picture was (is) the leader and the killer squad..
The "investigators" have traced his identity and origin..

With these information, I ask my questions thus:

If he is fanatic enough to carry out assassination at the instruction of Nnamdi Kanu then he must be a diehard follower of Nnamdi Kanu, which then implies he is a registered member of IPOB... Therefore, since his identity and origin is known, which IPOB unit does he belong to?

Secondly, how many men (or women) were in the alleged squad and what is the status of their whereabouts?

Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin..

One instance of the many dangers of quota system

Warship:


The same mistake Isaac Adaka Boro, Ken Saro Wiwa etc made which gave the Gambaris the audacity to kill them has been repeated by Asari.

Let Me Be The First To Say This Concerning Asari Dokunbo

Adieu Asari

RIP

There's nothing new under the sun. We keeping falling on the 'wrong' side of life because we don't learn from history.

Mace0lane:
This makes no sense, try harder on your next rubbish


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Most times when stuff don't make sense to a person, it could be that the person in question has no sense and not the stuff.

Check yourself well

profolaolu:
Your lord and master kanu is waiting for you to come and help him hold his wife's legs when shagging her.

Is this the best your brain could generate?

profolaolu:
And your kinds are begging for Lagos State cabinet members from Tinubu, when AREWA ordered you to leave their,you started begging, wailing and crying profusely.

The same my kind that were begging, wailing and crying were the people whom your lord and master Tinubu got so scared and jittery that he had to engage thugs to intimidate and harass them so they won't vote.

Oshigun:



What are you talking about? It is Igbos who feel inferior to Yorubas and spend every waking minute trying to compare dick with us. I will give you an example, and I particularly like this example because it shows what Yorubas are and how different we are to Igbo. In music, you Igbos cannot even scrape the ankles of Yoruba male artists for talent and global popularity. Yet it is the female music industry that is even more disgraceful for you. Tiwa Savage is arguably Africa's biggest female music superstar and Yorubas have many not far behind her. You Igbos do not have even one.

Yet daily, as you do here, you will run your mouth about Yorubas having no ambition, ability, talent etc. Yet how do a people you claim such about manage to be so dominant and so far above you in many aspects of life? Think about it. This is not rocket science. Nigeria has over 200 ethnic groups with many not being able to claim to have produced a nobel laureate, global music superstars with universal fame, one of the richest black women on earth, the heavyweight boxing champion of the entire earth etc.

If we Yorubas are not an innately gracious, confident, conciliatory, humble, classy and accomodating people, would we not spend every second bullying other ethnic groups and trying to disenfranchise them as inferior, as you Igbos do 24/7, by constantly pointing to our achievements no others come remotely close to matching? If Yorubas were as mean-spirited as Igbos then we would claim others should not even breathe air we do as we are far above in prominence, visibility, success etc.If you think about it and are honest with yourself you will know it is Yorubas who look down pathetically at your attempt to compare d1cks because our superlative achievements, your ethnic group cannot match, speak for themselves to the extent it will take far more than your empty noisemaking to make us take you seriously.

Congrats.. but this is a whole lot of words with weak points made. If you must engage me then present aggregate case studies not random instances of individual creativity (which, by the way, I don't downplay).

Case in point:
The richest man in Africa is from the core north, together with some notably wealthy individuals does that make them all well to do economically?

If I take WAEC and score the highest grades but happen to be the only person that passed in my village, will it sound reasonable to cite that as an instance to argue that students in my village are all bright?

Oga, every region have their strong points and weak points but the difference between your people and my people is that we make effective and efficient use of our gifts while you guys just feel you must prove a point.

Again I say, next time you think you must mention me on this matter you should present aggregate data and not one in a million random occurrence.

kenechukwufrank:
”I will Smoke You Out From Every Hole, Every Corner. They Know Me” Asari Dokubo Vows To Kill Nnamdi Kanu

Asari Dokubo, a former Niger Delta militant leader, has vowed to kill the leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu.

Dokubo said that the struggle for the actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra has been compromised by the IPOB leader.

In a video he shared on Facebook on Wednesday morning, he wondered why Kanu is running instead of facing the Nigerian Government squarely.


SEE HIS PLANS HERE: https://www.anaedoonline.com/2019/05/01/i-will-smoke-you-out-from-every-hole-every-corner-they-know-me-asari-dokubo-vows-to-kill-nnamdi-kanu/

lalasticlala

'When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk'

Yyeske:
Beating about the bush, I asked you a question to provide a link as to when the people of old Eastern region requested for a referendum since you've always insisted that they want it.

You mean a link where the over 50 million indigenous people of the old Eastern region had a meeting and invited your twisted yoruba media to cover it?

Yyeske:
I guess you don't understand my post.
You want a referendum for a people who had never requested for it, what is that called, just like taking me to an eatery and requesting fried rice for me when I never requested to be taken there not to talk of eating the food, are you not imposing your will on me?
Have the people of old Eastern region requested for a referendum and if they have, give us the link to know when it occurred.

No sir that's not the situation.
Using your analogy, it is just a situation of me tagging you along to have lunch at an eatery and then asking you 'Yyeske wetin you wan chow?'

Cos we Igbos don't chop alone, we invite our brothers...including the extended family

Yyeske:
Who cares how you feel about my opinion just as nobody cares about my feelings to your opinion. Go get the referendum since it's that cheap

We're working towards it but it seems to bother you so much. Why is that?

Yyeske:
That is exactly the mistake Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB committed that their minions are committing too, trying to impose a referendum on Igbos and non Igbos who had never requested for it.

You guys keep using the word "impose" together with referendum yet both are mutually exclusive. Referendum is exercising one's right to choice...how is this imposed?

Furthermore, a people who are not welcome to this unholy union wants freedom to go their way and decide their destiny. The bottom line is: let the old eastern region which make up Biafraland go, but just in case of doubt, conduct a referendum for the people to make their choice to go or stay. I'm still searching for the imposition

Osagyefo98:


If you look at these states, u will agree that they have something together or common , dats why they were carved into one state.

Yes I understand the concept, but were the people given a choice?

Yyeske:
Story for the gods, go get the referendum na

Clearly, your distaste for the Biafra ideology is not out of genuine concern but something foul.