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OasisX:
Watch the clip and tell me which of Advices he gave to Buhari and Osibanjo they actually follow? Is he the man in charge. Does he get anyone any power to effect his plans under Buhari Administration?

You can only decieve those who want to be decieved. And yes, ABSOLUTELY. Tinubu had the power and the influence to direct policy changes under the buhari government but he chose to be silent in the face of extreme national failure because he didn't want to gore some oxes and he harboured selfish plans so he decided to defend the indefensible as much as he could or stay silent and watch as the nation crumbled.

This attempt to paint an image that Tinubu was absolutely powerless and could do nothing while his party which he co-founded failed is dead on arrival. Your attempt has failed.

OasisX:


Haaabaa...... otemically. These people really don't get it. There is something unique about Tinubu that makes him the best among major Contestants - assembling of best heads and delegation of responsibilities to get the jobs done.

Tinubu will not rule Nigeria alone. Tinubu will not assume role of Otem to fix Nigeria. He's going to work with a formidable team of technocrats to get jobs done.

Hate him all you want...... he still remains the best and most ready to fix Nigeria. Agendas are there and very obvious. Reasons most of you are hating on him ain't just because of health but more... LOL!

Oasis enough of these rhetorical "best heads", Can you be more specific as to the "best heads" we will see in this "new" APC government?

Because we've already seen the best of his boys in this government and we've seen how terrible they were. From minister of darkness fashola, to gbaja heading one of the most useless house of reps, to aregbe, to abike, to Onu, to ngige. We've seen the "Tinubu boys" and they have all been useless in these past 8 years.

Can you tell us who these "best heads" will be in Tinubu's government?

raumdeuter:
First of all if Tinubu wins it will be from votes by people based in Nigeria and not because of the opinion of people in diaspora

We know this is a false opinion on the fact that many influencers on social media are in fact based abroad.

Tinubu is a 70yr old man similar age to many other countries presidents including the advanced ones
These health impairments do not have an impact on his ability to govern. As it is today he is the most active of all presidential candidates given the number of rallies and engagement

First of all dayo, Tinubu is not the most active of all candidates. That is just a plain lie. Obi has been famed for being a workaholic, visiting different far places in one day. Sometimes as much as 3 different states in a single day. While Tinubu's minutes has been carefully managed. He barely speaks above 30 minutes, including reading his scripted speeches.
Then secondly on issue of age, you keep making false equivalence. As of today, Biden's biggest challenge is his age. Any American citizen you ask about Biden even including his own supporters will tell you they wish for a younger president. So why are you wishing nigeria what you yourself do not wish upon yourself?? In your own words, you said you prefer Biden to step down for a younger desantis, so why are wishing an old and sick Tinubu to rule us?

The drug case in the US he was not convicted. Fingered is not conviction
The numerous corruption cases which he has been acquitted of under the PDP while he was opposition leader
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/3059-tribunal-dismisses-corruption-charges-against-tinubu.html

You want to condemn Tinubu who was acquitted by a court yet support Obi who admitted to corruption charges alleged by Pandora papers who even bragged about investing state funds in his private business?

Now you are being very disingenuous. Dayo you have previously acceded that Tinubu has too many baggages, what were those baggages you were talking about?
When we talk about Tinubu being involved in crime, that one is already common knowledge, are you trying to deny that? Are you saying Tinubu was not in any way involved in narcotic dealings?

As it stands today, there are only 2 ways one can be termed "successful" in Nigeria. I used quotation marks for that successful because what we term success in this country is very different from other places. Owning a car alone in Nigeria is almost a hallmark of being "successful", meanwhile 17 year olds in America are already driving their own cars to school.

Anyways, being successful in Nigeria is only if you are earning in foreign currency or you are involved in politics.
Any other thing you're doing, you're just suffering and smiling. Be it medium or micro business owner, be it being an academic,

The nigerian climate space is toxic for businesses. Also the best minds are fleeing the country in droves, we're witnessing the worst brain drain from a country ever.

Then those who flee the country,rather than lend voices on how the country can have radical positive changes will now choose to still concern themselves with trivalities and appeal for the corrupt ruling class. Such a pity.

FBS:
Let me get this straight, you are against APC as a party but not against Tinubu himself? Will that be correct?
Would it have been different if Tinubu was from another party?

But who in his right senses will attempt to detach Tinubu from the APC?

Tinubu is APC just as APC is Tinubu. Do we need to constantly remind people that the man owns half the party? That he was the major financer of the party till date via Lagos funds? That half of the government officials in this government are people he handpicked?

How would one attempt to twist the narrative that Tinubu can be detached from this government?

DeadPresidents:
No need to attack FBS over his opinion. We all see the world through different prisms.

FBS may not be in touch with our realities as Nigerians living in Nigeria for the hellish last 8 years of this disastrous APC tenure.

Exactly why he should be sounded out. Non-regular readers should know that his opinion is formed from the comfort a reality far detached from nigerians right here that continue to experience the misrule of the APC.

SlyFoxxWontDie:
America’s current political climate is not sustainable. No country that it’s leaders spend 95% of their time fighting each other can remain a super power for long. It’s actually one of the symptoms of a dying empire; hyper-polarizations and partisanship.

Just look at the people on this thread as a microcosm of American politics in general. All they do is here is fight, post damaging and disparaging information about members of the opposite party and try to one up each other. No one has ever posted to say this is how republicans and democrats can work together to achieve XYZ for the American people. It’s all fight fight fight January to December.

That country does not have a functioning government anymore as far as I’m concerned. This is why China will soon overtake them. Becuase say what you want about the Chinese, their system of government ensures for unity and harmony amongst all those in power which gives the government great focus and the ability to achieve things much faster without any hindrance or opposition. Watch Bill Maher explain it perfectly;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DH4v6FnbvM

I completely agree with this video.

American bureaucracy and the ultimate will for power from both sides is slowing things down.

And I also think that democrats tend to over regulate in governance leading to severe bottlenecks.
I think it's just a pity that Americans are severely limited to two choices.

SlyFoxxWontDie:
You really have some nerve this woman. I said I don’t want to see you comment here anymore

Mukina please your attention is needed here again.

This moniker keeps violating rule 2 and 5. Please ban him again and this time, monitor his reemergence.

FBS:
In my humble opinion and from what I have seen so far, I think Tinubu is more suited to the role given his track record. I have experienced his management style, he has the ability to delegate, insert the right people in the right places to maximise whatever potential benefits there are.

Y'all make jokes about him making speeches but if you listen closely, he appears that he does have a plan to make the country better.

A major concern obviously is his health but seeing him dancing buga won and campaigning so hard, Peter Obi will have to try harder.

As you are saying this, do well to remind people that you are based outside the country.

It is posts like these that really do infuriate me, the fact that the people that campaign for Tinubu on this thread are all based abroad, will definitely not be voting and will be exempt from the consequences of this Terrible decision. It is just truly annoying because it gives off this vibe of condescension or rather insensitivity to us here.

You aren't here to feel the effects of bad governance but you are comfortably hoping that Nigeria continues on this path of becoming a failed state.

Just like you, millions of skilled nigerian workers are fleeing in droves, escaping the harsh realities of nigeria but when you guys now flee to a comfort zone, you turn around and encourage the terrible set of people that are responsible for our country's doom.

Please make this make sense!! Dont see this as an attack, see it as a harkening to your conscience.

Obi is for rivers. Top to bottom. No doubt about it.

A blissful reminder of what we are revolting against..
Voting the APC is signalling a continuation of this evil status quo.

80 Percent of Tinubu's starting lineup is ALREADY in this government. We need a top down ransacking.

Do not be deceived by people who have decieved themselves into believing that Tinubu's APC will be different from Buhari's APC. They are one and the same.

Amb1045:
ANY ATTEMPT TO VOTE APC BACK TO POWER IN 2023 IS A VOTE FOR:

1. 2nd Most Terrorized Nation in the world.

2. World Poverty Capital.

3. 22M out of school children.

4. 53.40% youth unemployment.

5. ASUU Strike.

6. Twitter ban

7. Crypto ban.

8. Silly and unintelligent boarder closure.

9. Naira at N703/$ and heading to he N1k/$.

10. Oil theft at the highest level since discover with Government agencies pointing fingas at each other.

11. Unprecedented borrowing. Highest in the history of Nigeria.

22. Fraudulent subsidy payments, breaking any previous records.

23. Billions spent on unproductive refineries yearly.

24. Unprecedented corruption.

25. Lack of transparency in governance.

26. N20 trillion Ways & Means or CBN’s reckless printing of money.

27. Lowest FDI in recent years.

28. Terrorism, mass abductions, kidnapping & UGM.

29. Terrible roads, with FERMA dead.

30. Poor power generation, with highest number of national grid collapse in recent years.

31. Lies and propaganda raised to the level of policy of state.

32. Conniving and toothless National Assembly.

33. Compromised Judiciary and harassment of Judges

34. Budget padding

35. Sick President with Parkinson disease.

These are the things you want to continue when you reward the APC with another 4 years and the result will be total collapse of our country. Venezuela and what is happening now in Lebanon would be child's play.

Do not choose to play politics of party, tribe or religion in the 2023 Presidential election. It has to be a politics of competence and commitment. Peter Obi of Labour party is the man to rescue the country at this critical time of near collapse.

Vote wisely and Vote Peter Obi as the next President of Nigeria come 2023.

Last last all these permutations na just noise and guess work.
I still hold polling as the only true metric to know the frontrunner..

2015 and 2019, several polls showed Buhari leading. Even on niaraland here, buhari was the clear favorite. E reach Tinubu turn, we dey hear "voters are not online".

Professional polls have Obi as the clear frontrunner.
Street polls have Obi as front runner.
Online polls, that wan na beast on him own. Every literate is going to Obi by 90 Percent.

All these other guesswork is tiring. Based on our "feelings".

I'm willing to stake my money that Obi wins more votes than Tinubu nationally.

There is no magic that happens that will see Tinubu win more votes than Obi.
Tinubu's candidacy is generally despised. There is no way such an unpopular party gets to win re-election. The nigerian electorate are not stupid.

The only advantage PDP had in 2015 was power of incumbency and yet they lost because public sentiment was against them.

The exact same thing will play out in a couple days time. Tinubuis only taken serious sef because his party is the ruling party, were he an opposition candidate, he will know he has already lost just like Atiku right now

But why are the drug lord supporters shying away from polling data which is actually the only metric and data one can actually use for permutations rather than biased guess work or anecdotal evidences.

Polling data is the only thing one can use to guage support or mood in an area so why are the drug lord supporters shying away from it?

Theflint1:
In previous election cycles there wasn't BVAS, 2023 is a different election.

I keep shouting it here that this election would be entirely different from what we've ever seen

Segedinho:
So on what ground do you think BAT will sweep major part in d SW..

How many have you spoken to??
Your projections are hinged on the reality of questions/interviews/physical polls conducted..
you don't have to visit every nooks n crannies to make a projection.
If it favour you,it called projections otherwise it is called delusion........

Yes,since last year till now I have had talks directly/indirectly with people and I can tell you that Edo is Obi .....
Kabaka's endorsement means one tin n that is rigging ......you can't employ Anini to preach d gospel...
So believe me,when I say only rigging can do d trick

Apart from that, even within ourselves here on this thread, is there any if us here whose family members are predominantly voting for Tinubu? Mine for instance, Tinubu has absolutely zero votes in my extended family, on both sides oo. A few of us voted APC oo last time.

I'm sure that for many of us here, the pro-obi votes in our family heavily outweigh the pro-tinubu votes.

In my workplace, Obi voters surpass Tinubu voters and many are first time voters.

Every single evidence before our eyes is pointing in one direction but again, leave it to batists to dey imagine northern block votes for their head when their Homebase never even sure.

Every single data about this election, like every single polling done on anywhere on this earth shows Obi leading the rest.

Whether online poll, whether street poll, whether professional polls, all point in one direction, but leave it to batist to keep hoping on Imaginery block votes from the north. even though evidence points to bat being largely unpopular in the North.

We have seen northern forums where they are flocking to atiku and kwankwaso but the Batists here keep relying on northern politicians rigging votes for them against the will of their own people.
E go too shock una.

larride:
You are already creating excuse for yourself for when result comes out and it doesn't go the way you want.

In a state of over 1m registered voters, you havent even spoken to 0.0000001 of the voting population but let's believe you that everyone is voting Obi.

So you don't believe in polling?
You don't believe in data?

Oasis, just look at the shamelessness which you are bragging about.

3k per person to rent crowd.
Shameless folks, win power, then steal the people's Commonwealth, then pay them peanuts to come out and shout for you.
. meanwhile you don't even give them the decency to address them and actually campaign!

May APC never happen to Nigeria again.

post=120122099:
Watch through this link

https://fb.watch/i6qH4Zaech/

https://www.nairaland.com/7529103/tinubu-paying-3k-mobilise-crowd#120122099

Nostradamus1:
Sadly, structure is politics. It can neither be broken nor destroyed but can evolve to various forms

Let's put this theory to test. Last election, the "structure" on ground resulted in just 10 percent of the population voting.
This means a whopping 90 percent of the population were not part of that "structure".

Now let's assume that the massive sensitization about this election through the power of the internet and social media has activated a whole new 15 percent.

That's millions of new first time voters who are not part of any party or local structure but have made up their minds to go out there and thumbprint a ballot sheet for a candidate, does that aforementioned structure still hold firm in spite of the newly activated voters that overwhelm the previous structure?

A001:
Fuel price keeps going up and moving close to 300 naira per liter in most parts of Nigeria and APC wan win elections, lol. Tinubu no go smell Aso Rock

Every single Tinubu supporter is hoping on the north, more specifically, the northern politicians, but the masses themselves of the north despise the man.

Well, let February come, I will like to see Oasis' tears when Kano result is out and bat is having a paltry 200k vote count while kwankwaso has 500k and atiku has 300k.

In most of the street polls I have watched, many bat supporters just share the general sentiment, "he is our son", "I can't leave my person and vote for another", while the vast majority of Obi supporters say "we need a young person, we need a healthy person, not old men. And I believe that those who are playing "our son" Politics are vastly outweighed.

High turnout means Obi wins this election handily.

If there are 3 million votes from Lagos, Tinubu loses lagos, no doubt about that.

Let's never forget the most important fact in all these.

Buhari won with just SIX percent of the population.

I repeat, BUHARI WON WITH JUST SIX PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION.
meaning that in the grand scheme of things, "these structure" they had is ultimately because we just don't vote.

But I believe this time will be different. I believe that the turnout of the south will smash all records ever had in Nigeria.

I expect to see a million votes from Anambra, 2 million from rivers, 2.5 million from Lagos.

The electorate in the south is super charged. And there are millions of former APC supporters like myself that the party has lost.
APC has bled more supporters than they've earned.

Well February is around the corner.

OasisX:


This is Kwara State Capital..... Ilọrin ni wọn ní yí fà.

This crowd don't have the impact you think it has, because everybody knows that money is the motivating factor here.
You yourself knows that nobody looks at the drug baron who has no known history and thinks, yep, I love that man.

Tinubu is a "cover your nose and vote for me" candidate to his supporters. He simply represents their primordial sentiments. He doesn't inspire hope in anybody.

I've always said that the delusion of the bat supporters is just unparalleled.

At the end of the day, it's human beings that will vote. A governor can only influence at most 20 percent of the votes and only one APC governor is on the ticket. If you think the average northerner is enthusiastic about voting bat, you need to have a strong shock absorber.

The average northerner despises bat. And by average I mean the common man. No single northerner is enthusiastic about voting the drug baron.

3 factors will define the northern electorate.
1. Creeping voter apathy due to the massive failure of Buhari.
2. Kwankaso's emergence.
3. Split choices amongst the 3.

Bat will find it difficult to crack 40% in several northern states.

If thw masses don't love you they just don't love you.

Theflint1:
His reading from his speech was not so great, but his response to the questions he was asked were truly inspiring.

Nothing wrong with the prepared presentation speech. He made solid points and with such a projection of confidence and assurance. Then answered the questions very well, presenting his normal dose of facts and statistics to back his points.

We made a big deal out of the drug Baron's teleprompter reading because we barely ever see the man engage the masses directly and the few moments he tries to speak off-script, be ready for speech renovators to tell us what he actually meant. So Obi has no such hurdle to scale. He's the most vocal of the top presidential candidates. His engagements and public appearances are everywhere. be it TV interviews, radio interviews, student town hall, union townhall, you name it, Obi has attended all and engaged them directly without the need for scripted speeches.

The funniest thing this period is I no dey hear "jungle dey mature" again. Oasis, wetin do una jungle na? Despite Obi being vastly outspent, this man's campaign and support has been growing by tremendous proportions day by day, wetin do una jungle?

We're a month away from the elections and we are yet to see a presidential debate between the candidates because one person doesn't feel accountable to the people he intends to lead.

#votewisely

Such a wonderful hit for the Obi campaign.

Truly a good product sells itself.
As for others, if it didn't dey, it didn't dey.

Street poll conducted in the state capital ado-ekiti. As usual, Obi carries the day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQNKU_wmlQ

40 days out to the election. This is where we stand. This is our path to Aso rock.

ABIA
IMO
ANAMBRA
EBONYI
ENUGU
CROSS RIVER
RIVERS
BAYELSA
AKWA IBOM
EDO
DELTA
BENUE
PLATEAU
ABUJA
TARABA
NASARAWA.
LAGOS
Necessary percentages in 7 other states including oyo, Ogun, kogi, kaduna, Katsina, ondo and Niger. A divided northern vote sees to a concession speech by batiku by 8pm latest on 25th February.

We are almost there, People! Hold the line!

larride:
If you are depressed you will know. I really dont know how to explain it but you will definitely know if you are.

Maybe doc can elaborate on possible symptoms to watch out for.

I asked because mental illnesses are the most difficult diseases to diagnose. We're he to completely even map the brain so knowing how to differentiate between mental illnesses is still very very difficult.