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nateevs:
Not sure what you are on about? Are you talking about Nkunku? I think you just like to complain. What would you rather have them do?

They have learnt from the last transfer window, and going after a mix of top-rate established talent, and scouted unknowns that could hit it big.

They are potentially changing the entire forward line to have Leao, Nkunku, Muokoko, Fofana and Hutchinson. Also potentially in midfield, targeting Zakharyan, Alvarez and Amrabat.......and Gvardiol at the back. How can you not be grateful for owners like these?

You want the Glazers?


Many of us still wanted TT to stay but you cannot deny that TT made a series of very bad recruitment mistakes. And as much as I wanted him, I think he would have continued to freeze out good talent for reasons I cannot explain.

Fair points here, the owners are clearly working. Is undeniable that they are highly proactive.

DissTroy:
Wrong! I'm not a registered member of any political party because they have no ideology and I vote individuals. I even campaigned for Osinbajo, an APC man this year, including on the Chelsea thread.

Here's my comment about Peter Obi in January, 2019.

I stated the only reason I am rooting for Atiku is because of Peter Obi.

I admire your adeptness at presenting facts.

Emaprince:
So we should vote tinubu who is visibly sick and mentally unfit. Lol.

No matter how good you are though, there are people who will never be satisfied.

People criticising Obi in the past and now turned to praise him are probably doing so because of the top candidates he is contending with. If some one like Osibanjo is there, it would have been different....and it would have been two candidates making the wave on social medias.

It will be foolishness to look at an Old sick man and think he is the man to lead over 200mil people .well except for selfish personal gains one may get off it.

I have never voted before...but this one, I dey there.

I love you bro. Your head dey game.

Odewaleadesoye:
Don't me jawre... Na copy and paste from Daily Post oooo

Are you still supporting Obi? I'm curious. I remember you publicly declaring for him.

akwesenana:
One thing is certain.
Peter Obi will lose many votes because of you.

The absolute stupidity of some of you sometimes can be astounding.
You highlighted a post that is practically detailing the benefits of an Obi candidacy over others to type "you would cost Obi votes".
If this isn't foolishness I can't tell what is. Most of my posts is practically dedicated to getting people engaged in the democratic process, to which I've seen progress in but leave it to a fool to play to type.

Itsrm:
Tinubu has his health issues to deal with neither do I think he has the mental capacity to rule the nation.
Atiku is a desperate thief. He's the only presidential aspirant who hardly ever talks about corruption. The less said about him, the better.

My main issue with Obi is the way he tries so hard to be seen a certain way . Experience has taught me that those who do that are usually terrible humans/leaders.

Secondly, there's no track record. Almost everyone I've seen who lived in Anambra when Obi was Governor have nothing good to say about his administration. Why should I believe the story will change with him as president.
You want me to vote? You will have to put Wike on the ballot. He's the only one I trust to deal with insecurity heads on based on antecedents.

I don't know why I find this post funny.
You say you don't like Obi because he tries Soo hard to project simplicity..

Imagine a world where a reason for not voting a politician is because he tries to project an image of simplicity and humility. Something he has done since he ascended public office.
Mr man when it comes to Obi, his number one selling point is his prudence with public funds.

Your whole point is now rendered almost foolish when you declare that the person you want is an acclaimed chronic thief, corrupt entity, cheif embezzler and enabler of corruption.
You support wike because of his dictatorial tendencies, you don't support Obi because some people have said negative things about him, meanwhile you're overlooking the millions saying positive things about him and worse still, you've refused to use your own hand to research on the candidate himself very well rather than rely on what people say.

You're just not serious. People like you are the reason I'm intensifying my effort to make people vote.
Bro, this is politics, not a divine race, to be at the top of politics means you've dined with the devil at some point, you will never see a candidate that ticks all your boxes because what you seek is different from what others seek.
What you must do is choose the candidate that ticks the most for you and is the best among the options presented.

I can't keep repeating this enough! A presidency is beyond just one man. An Obi presidency, especially one led and fuelled by the masses and has a lack of establishment support means he has an autonomy and freer room to be his own person and make his own personal choices and appointments.

An Obi presidency appoints better ambassadors, better judges, better ministers.
An Obi presidency has better motivation to work for the people.

Meanwhile NOT VOTING is antithetical to whatever ideal or wish you have for the country. Not voting is a complete surrender to the evil forces that have darkened the nation to what it is today.
Not voting is infact VOTING. Not voting is ensuring that terrible leaders capture the state. The state of which you are under their whims and caprices. Not voting is playing the ostrich. And unfortunately your choice affects me, it affects all of us so go sit down and make better rational decisions.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]That is what Mr Spy said, and i intentionally bolded that part to make my comment.

Stop twisting and turning. The SE and any other region for that matter, DO NOT vote based on credibility.

If you like share Voters card to all indigenes in Abia state, PDP will produce the next governor, and he will be Ikpeazu's stooge[[/color]

You speak so ignorantly. Can you tell me how Rochas became governor? Or Peter Obi himself?
When you look into those gubernatorial races you see the that you're talking bullshite.

Theflint1:
Like I told DonJ before, even if every single Nigerian came out to vote on election day, most likely the results will be no different from what we're getting. The number of person's voting is hardly the problem.

This is not true. If more people came out to vote, they would vote based on what they feel would benefit the country and their interest..

And believe you me, many more people would see that tribalism has no personal gain for them. The people who believe that would be relegated to the minority.

Donjazet2:
I will like to know your opinion on this piece.
Do you agree with what is said here?

Itsrm, you didn't reply me here.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So you drew your analysis that Igbos vote credible leaders from the 90 that didn't vote, right?
Don't you think it is time to wake up from all these lies we tell ourselves of how one region votes better than the others?
If any region was voting with credibility, most office holders won't smell a second term. The SE have been plagued with very bad leaders, and it goes for almost all parts of the country

Stop using this voter apathy to ignore the patterns right from 1999.[/color]

You like dabbling in unnecessary semantics.

You keep inventing your own narratives to now argue against.
No one has said anything about who votes credible leaders, we're saying both sides have bad leaders but root causes are different because one side doesn't vote as much.

The intent of the guys entire message is that igbos are historically less malleable to leaders.. they bow to no leader. That's basically the essence of the message.

This is one argument I don't have strength for. If you believe fine, if you don't, fine.

Buhari has failed to protect this country. Soo much violence and unrest in all areas of the country. Chai

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Let me use your state as an example

Orji Uzor Kalu ruled for 8 years, and changed party to PPA

After then, he put his stooge T A Orji who ruled for 8 years and went to Senate.

What happened next? Orji put another stooge in the person of Ikpeazu that has been a disgrace to Igboland till this day.

So, it's either the bolded statement is a lie, you are indirectly calling the Igbos "fools", since this is your definition of credible leaders

If you want that of Enugu, Imo, or Ebonyi, please let me know.

When we address this, we can move to voter apathy[/color]

I'm sure I didn't mention credible leaders in my post.
Clearly you did not understand my post or his post which you responded to.

Let me use numbers, there are 100 People in a class, the vast majority of them are not malleable to directives politically but then they don't even care about who leads them.

Out of that 100 People, only 10 people do vote which makes it easier for all types of leaders to spring up because the small electorate can be more easily manipulated.

Now in the other class, 60 out of the 100 do vote but they vote based on instructions from their leaders whether the leaders are good or bad.

Now get the baseline of this argument. BOTH do have bad leaders but the reasons for that are different. That's the point for the most part.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Are Abia and Imo states exempted from this category of Igbos?[/color]

If you read the earlier part of his post, he talks about the problem of voter apathy which is the number one problem of Igbo people.

His post is suggesting is that igbos are less malleable than other groups to be told what to do by "certain leaders". Their own bad leadership is caused by the fact that they don't care about politics unlike northerners for example who do care but vote based on direction.

For instance, a northern house of rep member is in the news for telling his constituents that if they don't vote for him, he will deal will them and after the outcry, he still came out boldly to defend it that that's how they play their politics. For a southerner, that would be death knell on the persons political career. Think ohakim of imo state or Chris uba or Anambra.

Amoto94:
Nigerian elections are not fought and won on Twitter, although social media is certainly a factor, especially for young people. But overall, elections are won by effective structural presence and mobilization at the micro levels st polling units, mainly in rural areas. Kingsley Moghalu

Curious why you didn't post the complete part of his post.

larride:
This us not I am asking you and this Shalaye doesn't even cut it 1 bit.

You have no moral right whatsoever to criticize those that campaign and voted for Buhari. It shouldn't even be in your talking point because you are as guilty as they are except you are a shameless hypocrite.

The irony that your Peter Obi DG is a man that took part in the arms deal scandal, you know the one where they shared money meant for arms and ammunitions for the military.

Nobody is asking you not to campaign and vote for whoever you want but you especially should not be using the "They brought Buhari to power line" when you know you were part of those who brought him into power.

Larride don't be shameless.
show me where I criticized someone just for campaigning for buhari. I usually say only a wicked person will campaign for APC in 2015 and STILL campaign for them NOW after seeing everything.
If that doesn't make sense to you, then something is wrong with someone's critical thinking faculty.

Ibime:
I believe in other people's belief. I'm only attracted to it's liquidity

Seriously with all that's going on, this ftx saga, some major crypto players dying, increasing government's hostility to crypto, summarily, what do you perceive the future of Bitcoin to be like?

Ibime:
Twitter is in private hands and not listed anymore so anything you are seeing is the last price before Elon takeover was executed

Elon messed up bidding for that thing at $54 at start of the year, it was naturally going to dip to $20 before year end when he would have got better price. But I guess he needed a reason to dump overpriced Tesla stock and Twitter was a valid reason. Twitter still much cheaper in comparison to Tesla. Its like dumping MMM to buy Bītcoin

Is this you dunkin on Bitcoin? you don't believe in it?

A001:
Grandson of Otem. Today is Otem's day. Keep it coming.

My bro, if you let yourself get worked up everytime someone says otem, you'll be setting yourself up for unnecessary quagmire..
Just my friendly advise.

Tataffo:
Just like donJ,everybody don Sabi where to hook you for neck and trigger you especially the fact you no fit overlook and take am as cruise

I truly cannot understand the guy's obsession with Otem.

People who say that word are very clearly catching cruise. Fun cruise sef seeing many of the contexts in which it is used "hey, Messi don score, otem be praised".
Rather than just smile like everyone else he begins to defend the point.
Aoo1, you really need to chill about this Otem matter, when many people use that word, they're not even thinking about you. Stop being soo defensive about it.

Itsrm:
I must have confused you for someone else.

Lessons will surely be learnt.

Look at this tweet, this is what wins elections

Sorry may I ask, which lessons exactly will be learnt? And who will be the learners of the so called lessons?

Ellexy:
I agree and it's through debates and advocacy will awareness rise to the point were such laws can be looked into by elected legislative officials or by voting those who'll amend or abolish the laws as the case may be.

This is splendid! This right here is the entire point of our arguments here.

We're shutting down the extremism of amoto or anyone who will align with his belief that someone should be killed for blasphemy.

Most of us are agreeing that it is totally wrong for anyone to think it is okay to kill somebody, (legally or extra judicially) for blasphemy.

It's that MORAL argument we're having. AMONGST OURSELVES. Which is the aim of this forum. Sharing and exchanging ideas and knowledge.

raumdeuter:
The US has always been like this and survived 300yrs. Human ideologies keep moving. What is liberal today will be conservative tomorrow.
Sometime back a woman wearing sleeveless is extremely liberal now only extreme conservatives will do that

Before abolishing slavery was a liberal idea now its not even conservative
Just this week GAY right is not the law across the US, 20yrs ago, only extreme liberals used to identify as it

I watch movies from the late 90s and early 2000s where everyone laughed at anyone gay, now you cant even have a movie without a GAY character. Now children are actually transitioning and taking hormone blockers to change their sex

Think about every social issue from weed, abortion, same sex marriage, interracial marriage, dressing, gender identity etc

Now we have women refereeing a football match in Qatar. They are saying gender is fluid. Men are playing women sport and vice versa Next you will have men and women merged to play in EPL so Chelsea FC will field 6men and 5 women to face Real Madrid. Maybe the 2034 world cup might be combined men and women

So there might become a time where the conservative opinion on punishment for killing will be jailterm while the liberal punishment might become counseling

There wont be no civil war, they will just adjust position with the right moving slightly left and the left moving further left

I didn't see that last point coming. The slow shift towards liberalism, isn't that a good thing? At least going by the earlier points you made about slavery, female dressing and LGBT human rights??

As for the football aspect, it does sound akward but certainly not impossible. We have some weak males and strong females who both play football. I don't think it will bad to trial the idea of mixed gender sports so far as it doesn't affect the quality of the game.

Now get my point, the best male footballer is most likely better than the best female footballer but the busy female footballer is most likely better than many average make footballers. So not totally impossible.

larride:
I'm not talking about Dayo here. I am talking about YOU.


You Donjazet, what moral right do you have to tell anyone who to vote or not vote for seeing that in your own words "Buhari is a colossal failure" but you were part of those that has brought the colossal failure into power?

I ask you donjazet, do you not think you deserved to be cursed daily for bringing Buhari into power?
Questions begging for answers.

Larride, I keep repeating this here that the presidency is beyond one man.
Someone here once asked me if I went back in time today to 2015 despite knowing what I know whether I will still vote APC and I said yes. Because despite the failure of the party's administration, their emergence has inevitably led to a better democracy for Nigeria.

Even though the PDP has failed as an opposition, Nigeris is still not a one party state and that we have relatively strong electoral laws today and hopes of a freer election next year is because of the fact that both parties don't want either of themselves to rig the other out in the states they control.

So APCs emergence did pave the way for the present Obi phenomenon. If APC did not win, they would have most likely splintered after that election and we would have no choice. We would have been like our African neighbours. One party for 50 years just like PDP had bragged. Just like we see in Kenya, Uganda, Zimbabwe and the likes.

That's the same thing I'm doing today, campaigning for what an Obi presidency REPRESENTS. A campaign not backed by looted fund's. A campaign funded and energized by the common masses. An Obi win gives him a chance of telling the establishment, none pf you put me here, the people put me here and I will work for them..
That's the beauty of what the Obi presidency represents. One who is outside of the establishment. One who no state Governor is backing with looted state funds or corrupt money. One who is being pushed by the average citizen.

So yes. That Buhari was a failure does not mean we don't move on and fight again for a better choice. Buhari failed but democracy survived.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I think we are just using different scenarios, while ignoring the main reason for this argument

Deborah died because she posted on a WhatsApp group (what they tagged as "blasphemy" )

I know you don't support mob action, but do you support that she should be killed by the law because of that?

This is the genesis of the whole story.
Do you support it?[/color]

I don't even understand why the argument is being Soo prolonged.
This argument is a MORAL argument not a LEGAL argument..

Amoto supports the sentiment that Deborah be killed as the Quran says or rather as his sects interprets it.

The argument about the legal standing of blasphemy is another entire argument separate from Amoto's sentiment that Deborah should be legally killed for "blasphemy".

larride:
Good that you owned up to the fact that you campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. If the Buhari you campaigned and voted for is who you now term a failure, what right do you have to criticize those who campaign and voted for the same Buhari?

Which kain amalanomics be this??
Is it me or dayo who was condemned for being a hypocrite?
Obianojazz said he can't be abroad and campaign for any candidate.

Dayo responded and supported him saying the people that even did that would look foolish in 10 years time.
Myself and someone else called out his hypocrisy for this position taken seeing as he was hatefully leading the charge for buhari.
I was the one calling out his hypocritical stance so I don't understand where I condemned him foe supporting someone.

My fellow Nigerians, you cannot look at the efforts and radiant joy and hope on the faces of your fellow Nigerians here and not be cowed into joining this fight for a better Nigeria.
Just go into this page and see all the motivation you need to join this effort to save Nigeria.

Make sure you have your PVC! It's your only weapon against this evil government. This government that has brought pain, suffering anguish upon its citizens. Go out there and minister hope to your loved one's. All hope is not lost for a new Nigeria is POssible.

https://www.nairaland.com/7481909/obidents-display-pvc-cards-photos#119175275

larride:
Which statistics? Oluwole own abi which one?

Peter Obi didn't borrow a dime as Governor or what is this that I read?

Mention 1 Peter Obi legacy in Education. Let's start from there.
NB: I see you ghosted the question I asked you last night so let me ask you again.

Donjazet, who did you campaign and voted for in 2015?

Obi handed all missionary schools back to churches'management for effective management but still provided resources and requipping of all of them plus increasing and prompt payment of teachers salary for better education.

2. I campaigned and voted for buhari because I believed that as a former military general, he would be better equipped to handle the insecurity issue and that he wouldn't be easily controlled by the Cabal. I also believed he would fight corruption based on his work in ptf. But he failed woefully!!

Keep giving yourself flimsy reasons for not voting in the governor of the decade.

Itsrm:
No surprises, attack the messenger and leave the message.

By the way, why not ask Fashola what he thinks of Buharis government and see what he'll tell you. I was under the impression you can only get the truth about any government from critics of that government.

Rather than prove to us that what he said is false, you'll rather dismiss it and say its just opposition politicians.
Continue

Oga whatever you may perceive as Obi's shortcomings, Tinubu's is 10 times worst.
We have to make a choice because one of them must rule us by this time next year.

Whose will be better?? That's the question.
Statistics has shown us that Obi performed better than Tinubu "relative to resources available".
Obi has astounding legacies on education, rural development and economic balancing in the state.
One of the only governors not to borrow a single dime throughout his tenure in office, do you know what that means? A governor who at the time of leaving office was not owing any single salary or pension. A governor who has not received a penny from state government while others feed fat on state resources.

I could go on and on but I'm sure you already know all these but is trying Soo hard to give yourself flimsy reason why you would be a coward on the sidelines. Sorry for that word but it is what it is. Saying you're not voting is an absolute surrender to the wicked politics being played. Keep playing the ostrich.

Emaprince:
What? I used to think Amoto is a core notherner...due to the way he responds like one who's been radicalised.

Dude issa jihadist.
Fear who no fear am.

Omo, E reach to highlight again.

DissTroy:
Cûrsed be the fingers that typed this. ☝�

Cûrsed be the fingers which exonerate Buhari and dunk on the faces of Nigerians caged in the gazillion anti-people policies of Buhari whom he contributed to bring to power and has continued to foist his insensitivity even in this corner of the internét.

Cûrséd be every waking day of yóurs for ridiculing the millions of Nigerians who have had to be pummeled by the misfortuné of a Buhari presidency yet doubling down to rub salt in their injûries.

Cûrséd be you for repeatedly shoving your insensitivity on the faces or Nigerians yet simultaneously brágging about having it better in a clime where the government functions while doing everything to truncate the ascension to a decent and comfórtable living for even the least Nigerian or her resident of the country.

Cûrsed be you for every manufacturing company in Trans-Amadi, Port Harcourt or Ijoko, Ogun State which has had to shûtdown operations due to the harsh business clime which a Buhári presidency heralded.

Cûrsed be you for defending a man whose nephew siphoned #92 billion meant for startups and evaded prosecution.

Cûrsed be you for whitewashing a man who has entrenched disobeying court orders in the Nigerian system.

Çûrséd be you, Raumdeuter, for your attempts at downplaying the evil that is Buhari!

Itsrm:
Another angu

I will like to know your opinion on this piece.
Do you agree with what is said here?