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Isn't it time we start banning people for making senseless posts like yes why not turn of you ligth in the nigth and know why we need it?

Don't u know dat Nigerians don't know how to read manuals, You wasted ur time putting up dat link

onydchic:
the sad thing about wot all of you are saying is this, NOT EVERYONE CAN OWN A BUSINESS. It's not realistic economically. if one man owns a big enough biz, wont he hav to employ people? some people don't have the flare for bein an entrepreneur. and that's one of Nigeria's issues today. look @ it. everyone owns a biz, but none is DAT great. that is y cbn put that limit on banks, because everyone thot dey should own 1!

Thats true o. Yet life is made up of risks. Many of those successful in business are those who were willing to take the risks of leaving the enslaving comfort of paid employment and utilizing their imaginations to create mega businesses. Nigeria is large enough for there to always be unemployed people so the question of who would work if every1 gets a business does not need to arise. The Nigerian mentality dictates that a man and his family should own his business, dats y many are not great. If people of different minds and abilities come together to form a business and are steadfast in their aim, they don't have to be of the same family, failure would be far from them. But we lack trust and integrity in this country and would always look for a way to cheat the other. This still does not justify working for someone all the useful part of ur life.

The fact that u are a HND graduate and u are good does not mean 99% of HND graduates are good. You might just be an exception, There's an exception to every law right? The university graduates u met who are dumb are also exceptions. But show me a university graduate from a well recognized schul like OAU or Unilag with 2-1, and the probability that he would out perform the HND graduate is very certain unless if there is some form of post graduate study or if it's a job requiring an experience the poly graduate might have gotten during his industrial training. Graduates from some Nigerian universities are not worthy to hold the BSc, same thing applies to poly's. Nigerian educational system is wack and u cannot compare a graduate from electrical engineering at the University of Lagos with a graduate in Electrical Engineering at the Delta State University (if they do engr), They are both Bsc holders but the Unilag one would definitely be better than the Delsu one. I don't have proof.
Those of the poly grads that feel they are better than the BSc grads are few and are those who companies have given a chance to rise. Read the first 2 posts on this topic. I assure u dats the view of majority of HND holders. You are in the minority.

I personally believe that polytechnics graduates come out more experienced than university graduates. In terms of course work, not much difference exists. Like one of my lecturers once said a University engineer takes a supervisory role while a polytechnic engineer (technician) is the one doing the actual work. The major difference between university and polytechnic graduates is the way it is perceived in the society and honestly I have noticed among the few friends I have that are in polytechnics that there is this feeling of inferiority. It is a well known fact that ur perception of urself is a huge determining factor of ur altitude. There are alot of things to say but I find it hard to put them in words. The truth still remains that even though the course work of polytechnics contain more technicalities than the university, the worth of a university graduate is higher than that of a polytechnic graduate except in cases where the polytechnic graduate exhibits astounding accomplishments.
I do not know how true the story of Access Bank laying of their polytechnic graduates is sometimes last year or 2 years ago but I have thought about the possibility of this and I came to the conclusion that it is the poor way in which many polytechnic graduates carry themselves that can attribute to such. Thats one plus I noticed in the University tooo, the level of enlightenment is greater than what you get in polys (this is not a 100% fact)

Wole Soyinka - Third Class
Who says u must be a first class student to make it?

who you hater's think you talkin to, I'm the fuckin boss (Jay-Z)

Ewan Mcgregor and nicole kidman - Come What May
The best love song ever

Very interesting thread, filled with loads of grammatical blunders
Anyway the issue at hand is why Americans don't recognise Nigeria degrees. I don't think it would be same for a hi-tech country like America to recognise degrees from a third world country like Nigeria. They know quite well that we spend 6years for a 4 year course due to strike, They know that our universities don't match up to the standard of their own universities and u expect them to let u work wit ur naija certificate? The best option is to work as a security guard with ur naija certificate and at the same time work for ur masters there or an american degree. A nigerian degree is gradually becoming useless here in Nigeria sef (Especially Sciences and Engineering), talkless of America. A university professor cannot make use of a computer cos of old age, Probably the advent of private universities would change things.

I would cut his d**k

wwyd if ur stomach is aching u and u felt like s***ting but u r in a bus with 1hr to go to the end of ur journey.

I would tell it to fall down and die again

wwyd if u r female and ur best guy friend fell in luv wit u?

I'm not contesting whether it's as good or not, I am contesting the value in Nigeria. Put 500 BSc graduates with 2-1 and 500 HND graduates, 400 BSc graduates would go farther while 100 HND graduates would go farther. The percentage of the HND graduates that u think have made it is low compared to the BSc. It is safer to do a BSc than an HND. And if I'm not mistaken, ur going to polytechnic was a last resort after attempts to enter University failed. We live in Nigeria and I understand the fact that u would have psyched up urself to see the good in HNd but its not always so

ishmael:
What is the stigma in having HND? pally i know a few people that are professors and Doctors 2day that started from OND, HND, PGD, MSc and PhD, and they are lecturers in some nigerian universities now. Why were they not discriminated and denied employment as lecturers in the university because of their HND? It is because polytechnics in nigeria don't have the constitutional backings to run Masters and PhD programs now, that is why all these nonsense is happening. I assure you soonest nigerian polytechnics will soon start running masters and PhD programs, and even people from universities will be rushing down to do their masters there. Right now a lot of university graduates still go to some polytechnics that run PGD programs for their PGD. Kadpoly and YabaTech are examples of such polytechnics; you can find out if you are in doubt.

I was talking about corporate Nigeria not in the academics. I know of people who had masters but all because of HND they never got beyond a particular level. The academics is a different ball game. It's all about reading. Those University graduates who go topolytechnic to run their PGD probably don't have the necessary prerequisites to be admitted for the University PGD. Thats as far as I know, The discrimination against HND graduates exist and there's also a stigma associated to it in the Corporate world in Nigeria unless it's a kind of company where u can rise from the position of clerk to Managing director

being a servant

You don't need BSc to go for your masters but the stigma of being an HND graduate would still pursue a person even though he has a masters - that the way companies are o unless if things change

There are some people who jobs are meant for. When I build my company I would need job seekers to work for me. the key to succeeding as a worker is to put ur all in the job u r doin and u would one day rise to the top. One of the problems Nigerians have is that they are not willing to do more than what they are paid for. They think the reward of labour is only in the salary they pay them.
I do not support looking for jobs o. Once I graduate it's sure as tomorrow that I won't submit my CV in any company. the key to succeeding outside looking for a job lies in ur ability to use ur imagination.
As for those who are committed to looking for jobs, u can start submitting ur CV to me o, as from next year I would be an employer of labor

Isn't this what they call dumb topic, dumb post and dumb replies?

Spending 5 years to do HND is not easy, only to come out and be discriminated against. It's unfair but that's the country we live in. A BSc would get a job faster than a HND anyday anytime and even if the HND eventually gets a job, he might not be able to rise above a certain position if he does not upgrade. It's safer for HND graduates to work towards a masters and if possible get a BSc b4 venturing to masters

dondele:
so in other words, i can run any windows apps on the new MAC OS with the new intel chip right?


you didnt answer the other question above about the kernal and centos and opensource and closesource.

No you can't run any windows app but u can install windows and run ur apps on the installed windows on the new apple laptops with intel chips

@Mubowa
I don't know if love still exists o but which guy go wait for 2 years to scope a girl? Thats a classic way to get a husband not a boyfriend. You might neva find sum1 dat would follow ur beautifully written script. It's like a romance film or novel.

The best iPod software is anapod manager (www.anapod.com, it makes transfer of songs to ur ipod so sweet and easy. You can also use media centre 11(www.jriver.com). Itunes is crap
You cannot transfer video to ur ipod nano but u can experiment linux on ur ipod nano at the expense of it probably crashing.
You can listen to radio if u get the ipod remote (i'm not sure if its supported on nano but it's supported on the video enabled ipods)
Podcasts are mp3s which are approximately equal to RSS feeds for websites. I don't know a simpler explanation

dlynx4real:
hmmmnnn, na wa o
i've been going thro this for sometime now and i keep getting scared each time
am currently a student in nigeria-final year but i have a two month holiday i want to spend it in uk before i resume in november.i was hoping on working during the two months and making lik E2000 ? is that feasible at all?
please let me know somebody

If you are goin to UK to do fraud, 2k pounds is small thing in 2 months but if it is to work with visiting visa, its a tallllll dream. UK is not a bed of roses o. I hope u would see work sef in the first place. When u r goin carry chop moni o too cos I hear say for dat side, nigerians eyes dey chuk and u go become burden after a week with them.

$hadex:
OK i really can't i just confirmed that again today.
Cuz derez this girl that wants to kill herself because of me n can't ave anything to do with her because shes not fine.
at least thats beta dan playing her game,sleepin with her n dumpin her.

You sure say u go fit sleep wit am sef if u want to? Your stuff fit no rise o

Radiant:
DONMAYOR 1 of Nairaland! I deh feel your vibes jare

Yeah it helps a lot, Thanx but thats wicked

OOk i don hear u,

dearie:
Hey seun,
you have to be careful with your words when u address issues that border generally on GOD.

Please take no offence, but as the admin. i don't expect u to do the kind of landing you are doing, moreso on a public forum like this. I understand the freedom of speech thing! but an issue as sensitive as God's Existence is enough to precipitate a war -GOD forbid.

Just a friendly advice!

I'm surprised u r beggin him not to take offence!!! You have broken no site rule in advising him and if he deems it fit to block u for that then i don't think it's worth being on this site

Seun:
I can also answer your prayers according to my whim/will! If you ask me in prayer for something I want to do, I'll do it. If you ask me for something I don't want to do or can't do, I'll claim that it's agaisnt my will.

It doesn't take a God to provide unreliable answers to prayer. Any human being can do that!

Time will tell who is right or wrong but let's hope it is not too late,

Is this a google error or what? The first search result u get for the world failure is the profile of President George Bush.

http://www.google.com/search?q=failure

Is George Bush the new definition of failure? Left for me he has not failed o.

I guess u know the cost to love-vendor a car? Now lets take a look at MTV's pimping and see if anyone has attempted it in Nigeria, even the so called guys wit pimped out cars can't compare to teh standard of love-vendor my ride.