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Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 10:34am On Jul 05, 2016
4everGod1:
All these things u mentioned above all were derived from something already existing. What was the big bang derived from?

Besides you didnt answer ny question about the big bang. Why are planets not furthering the cause of the big bang theory? You why its called a theory?

Simple Definition of theory. : an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events. : an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true.

Question: has the big bang theory been scientifically proven to be true? Likewise evolution.

They still remain theories!
Your first definition of theory is exactly what scientists define as a theory, the second one is the normal everday usage of the word.

Yes a theory is an idea that explains Facts and events

1. The big bang theory explains the fact that the universe is expanding, it explains the fact of the CMB, it explains why the universe is so evenly distributed.

2. The theory of evolution by Natural selection explains the facts of mutation and heritage, it explains why organisms ar so good at wat dey do in their environment.

3. The theory of General relativity explains the fact of gravity

4. The germ theory explains the fact of how little tiny organisms cause us illnesses

5. The theory of special relativity explains the fact of the constant speed of light.

So you see, theories are not a guess, they are explanstions for well established facts, hypothesis is what you would regard as a guess.

Please learn more about science, you would need it alot in our present world.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 10:11am On Jul 05, 2016
4everGod1:
You know that if u attempt to respond to the gravity question by talking about the magnetic pull from other planets and then the earths magnetic core u would stand the chance of being asked how the earth so conveniently thought it right and proper to have a magnetic core same way other planets have... Did all these planets hold a meeting where they all decided to give themselves magnetic cores in order to avoid bumping into each other so as to intelligently avoid another big bang occurrence.

Since evolution is a continuous process these planets should not be able to avoid running into each other. Rather they should continue with the big bang experience right?
*face palm*

Look i am not going to argue with you, because your mind is already made up, trying to answer wud be like punching a brick wall, na me go get hurt so no need.

I wud say one thing though, You agree with scientists on medicine, drugs, the internet, cars, airplanes, rockets, phones, cooking gas, gravity, electomagnetism, electricity e.t.c. The world is runned by the works of science but you think they are lying about evolution and the big bang?

All i can say is, What a pity...
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 9:16am On Jul 05, 2016
4everGod1:
So to you the universe is disordered and probablistic and this makes its occurrence random right?

Then kindly answer these questions to further buttress your random theory


Question: if I put 10000 Atheists in a room andi ask them to tell me the Origin of the wind and where its going to..would they be able to?

Question: Do you know where you are going when you die?

Question: How did the planets form when the Big Bang explosion all of a sudden happened? After all, you don’t see round objects form when something blows up.

Question : if evolution is real, how can it explain gravity, angular momentum, human emotions, and why we worship God?

Question:Why do we not see half trees and half carrots, fronkeys, and crocoducks if evolution is real?

Question:Why do we not see black people come from white people?

Let me even cut it short.

What explains the fine tuning of the universe?
Why is the universe rational?
Where did the genetic code come from?
How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity?
How do we account for self-awareness?
How is free will possible in a material universe?


I decided to meet you on your own turf since you are n Atheist to ask you these questions based on your belief.

Make me an Atheist believer by answering just one of those questions.
Lol, most of your questions are disconnected and many of them are just ignorant.

Please ask an intelligent question, one at a time, then i wud answer you to the best of my knowledge, but dis is not intelligent at all.

Like asking if evolution is real, hw does it explain gravity? Seriously dude?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 9:08am On Jul 05, 2016
4everGod1:
The simple reason why an Aitheist can not offer me an explanation on my experience is because Atheism is the belief there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing magically exploded (for no reason), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.

Does the above make sense to you? Yet they want to mock and explain my beliefs? They are simply placed here on earth to Provide us with Cosmic Comic relief.
You are wrong on a lot of levels here

1. Atheism is not a belief system, calling it a belief system is like calling sumone who doesnt watch football a football-fan

2. Most atheists dont claim to know for certain there is no gods, they only reject the existence of all the gods that has been claimed to hav existed due to insufficient evidence.

3. Atheist never said everything we see came from nothing, they only say "we dont know how it came about", you the religious folks ar the ones who claim to know how it came to be, but cant provide any evidence for your claims.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 8:56am On Jul 05, 2016
joyandfaith:
But Einstein was not atheist but you are. Are you wiser than him. It is either poorly educated or delusional people that deny existence of God.
Einstein was a theist either, he was a pantheist, go check it out, he ddnt believe in a personal God, he just believed in a sense of order and beauty in which he called God.

Thats part of the reason why he ddnt believe in the randomness of the quantum world because he wanted the universe to be ordered, and hence his mistake.

The universe at its smallest scales is very disordered and probabilistic, a feature Einstein never believed it has.

You theist have dis tradition of always accepting wat an authority tells you like your pastor and bishops, they are Gods representative so they cant be wrong.

Well we dont have any authorities in science, even the best scientists of all time can be proven wrong.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 8:11pm On Jul 04, 2016
felixomor:
You have seen ur goof.


Saying that a person who is widely regarded as one of the fathers of quantum mechanics is "extremely wrong" about the subject itself when you yourself have not made any discovery on your own on the subject is a classical goof.

Swallow your pride and move on.
http://www.iflscience.com/physics/scientists-prove-spooky-action-distance-absolutely-real/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3283317/Einstein-wrong-Ground-breaking-test-reveals-spooky-quantum-entanglement-phenomenon-real.html

Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 4:36pm On Jul 04, 2016
felixomor:
Please would u even know anything called such if not for him.
So much for "extremely wrong"
Be sincere for once
are you a troll? or just plain ignorant?!

If you dont know the difference between Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity, dont mention me again!
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 4:03pm On Jul 04, 2016
felixomor:
Somebody who is busy using GPS and other technologies based on Einstein's principles is busy saying Einstein was "extremely wrong".
Meanwhile e never make one discovery by himself.
When atheists say religious folks dont use reason, it would look like we are bigoted...

Go back to the post, i said "Einstein was wrong about QUANTUM MECHANICS" (or atleast his idea was).

What has Quantum mechanics have to do with General Relativity(which was his masterpiece and the reason for GPS).
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 11:39am On Jul 04, 2016
SenatePresdo:
A scientists once said,
"God does not play dice with the universe"~Albert Einstein.
This is how you guys read your bible out of context, do you know why Einstein said that?, i am pretty sure you dont

Einstein was surprised at the Randomness of the Quantum world and the uncertainty in Quantum mechanics, he just couldnt wrap his head around it because it contradicts his own version of a smooth and curved universe hence he ddnt agree with the standard model, he made that statement in disbelief (and not because he was trying to elevate a god of some sort).

Moreover, Einstein was extremely wrong about quantum mechanics, the randomness and spookiness of the Quantum world has been confirmed many times over with our modern technologies.

So please, next time, quote in actual context, this is not your church!
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by donnffd(m): 11:30am On Jul 04, 2016
There is no point trying to give you an explanation because you never would be satisfied with it.

Your mind has already been conditioned in such a way that when anything that is beyond your scope of comprehension happens, you attribute it to God, or spiritual forces and the likes.

If you were born 2500years ago in ancient greece and had this same scenerio, you would say it was the work of Zeus

If you were born 4000years ago in ancient egypt and had this same scenerio, you would say it was the work of Horus, or Isis or watever gods you believed in

If you were an Indian, and had this same scenerio, you would argue that it was the Lord Vishnu and his son Krishna that protected your son.

Noone can change your mind, especially not an atheist.
Christianity EtcRe: Who are the real Fools, Christianity Is Just One Of MANY Beautiful Ladies by donnffd(m): 7:11am On Jul 02, 2016
Image123:
You contradict your OP which says there's nothing special about Christianity while spending a major part of your life and interactions worried to death about the Christian faith. Don't talk at all so as to reduce the concentration of foolery in the air.
When you see a certain atheist bash a certain religion constantly, its not because that religion is the so-called right one or special one, its just because that was the religion he was deluded with and obviously knows much if not all about it.

Most atheist here break out from Christianity, its only logical they wud attack christianity(fyi, not christians). If you found an atheist in iraq, i bet you he would attack islam 98% of the time.

Please, stop deluding yourself that your faith is any special
Christianity EtcRe: Anxiety Disorder Or Juju?? by donnffd(m): 10:03am On Jun 30, 2016
Dejideji1:
Oga you again? Remember our last protracted argument? I'm not ready for a re-show again biko. So I won't argue with you any further on this, else we derail this thread completely.
Trust me, the last thing i want this morning is to be doing tug of war with you... But you mentioned bakassi, so i decided to make a statement... accept it or reject it, na you sabi
Christianity EtcRe: Anxiety Disorder Or Juju?? by donnffd(m): 9:57am On Jun 30, 2016
Intrepid01:
Otemanuduno, HardMirror, Sonoflucifer:

For months I have followed hardMirror on his several threads denouncing the existence of god and even this one, denouncing the existence of supernatural. You see I have always known that it is foolish and diificult to believe what you cannot see and experienced. You guys in the usual appearance of 'knowing it all" you have also commented on the things of the spirit. Not because you have evidence to prove its non-existence but because you have no practical proof of its existence. Do not worry, keep calm and enjoy ur life in denial but one day in a not too long distance you will have a real encounter with what your brain cannot comprehend and you will know that those who say life is a mystery had a reason for making the statement.

As for the Op, let me tell you the main essence of acknowledging that the dark world with agents laced with evil powers exist is not to exaggerate their powers but to be conscious of their activities and know that their is a higher power that reign supreme above all...Thos who say witchcraft does not exit can continue to live in self denial for the time being.
@bolded...how can someone have proof of non-existencehuh did you go to school? did you do logic at all?...if you have no proof for your claim, the default position is to reject the claim, thats the logical thing to do not to come and be asking for proof of non-existence.
Christianity EtcRe: Anxiety Disorder Or Juju?? by donnffd(m): 9:49am On Jun 30, 2016
Dejideji1:
Now I will bring it up here again, he said what can you say about the bakassi boys and their exploits back then[b] in the late 90s [/b]during the Era of Gov orji Kalu.

He activated them and made them vigilantes to curb criminal activities in the state. We all know they we impenetrable with bullets and other stuffs like that. I don't want to go into details we all know them.
You said late 90s....Yes i grew up believing in those things, bakassi boys, gbomo-gbomo and the likes.

Do remember we ddnt have the internet(or rather it wasnt as rampant as now), we ddnt have smart phones with cameras and the likes

Now we do, all those things seems to have run underground. there is videos of aluu boys burnt alive, there is videos of chibok girls and so on
BUT
Guess what we dont have up till now, No video of a bakassi boy chesting bullet, or no video of a child turning to yam because she picked money from the floor even with the sheer number of smart phones with cameras across the country and planet.

And you want us to believe these things really did happen.

It is written in the bible and i would para-phrase, when i was a child, i walked and talked and acted like a child, but as i became a man, i put away childish things...
Christianity EtcRe: Does Religion Under-develop Societies? by donnffd(m): 7:23am On Jun 30, 2016
I dont think its religion per say that underdevelops society, i think its dogmatism and inability to embrace change, which is one of the core principles of many religions but not all.

In terms of development and industrialization, no country has grown faster than the far eastern countries(China,Japan, South korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Hongkong e.t.c) and many of them are religious.

The jews are the most prosperous in any society that they are found and presently have gotten about 70% of all the nobel prizes won.

This goes to show that religion is not the problem, but if you examine closely, these religions has something majority dont, their willingness to change and accept new truths of the world.

Buddhism and Judaism are the two least dogmatic religions so far, go check it out, they are willing to learn and discuss and form new truths as the human condition changes.

So in essence, what am i saying, Healthy Religion is not bad for society, Dogmatic religion is the main evil of human kind.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist--- Ur Explanation On Prophecy. by donnffd(m): 2:40pm On Jun 28, 2016
thelish:
At least that of phone can be base on technology. I don see wetin nairaland atheist nor get answers to ooo.
u guys seems to have answers n proof to everything. But this one hard Una oo. lol
go back 300years, do you think an average man on the street would believe that there is a technology or can be a technology that can make you talk to sumone at the other side of the world instantaneously? i think not...

Funny enough, if we get the transcripts of what the prophet told you, we would discover that it was somewhat generic and mind-stealing...i.e he used a previous question to give you a conclusion, so called mind-readers do it alot
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist--- Ur Explanation On Prophecy. by donnffd(m): 12:10pm On Jun 28, 2016
thelish:
That reasonable prove is what am looking for.
Even if you dnt have reasonable proof, its still not enough to claim that it was from God or satan, theres no prove for that either...

If someone doesnt understand how a phone works(talking to people half-way across the world in an instant), does it automatically means that it was God that did the phone or the phone must have had supernatual powers?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist--- Ur Explanation On Prophecy. by donnffd(m): 11:35am On Jun 28, 2016
thelish:
So u don't believe his prophecies are from God? Who else can expose deeper things of the mind to another who haven't seen u before?
The issue we mostly have is that we have been drilled to assume that once we dont understand something, then it must be the work of God or a supernatural occurence. Thats a mentality we need to shred to be able to be in full control of our lives and the world around us.

No, i dont think they are from God or any supernatural beings for that matter until reasonable prove as been provided.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist--- Ur Explanation On Prophecy. by donnffd(m): 9:28am On Jun 28, 2016
thelish:
very private dear. I just want to know if there is still any scientific explanation to it.
I dont think you would be able to get a scientific explanation to it. Just the same way you cant get an accurate scientific explanation behind Horoscope.

Have you noticed that those horoscope thingy works 95% of the time even though we know its just a sham.

Just try it, look for you sign and read what was written about your sign, you would be amazed at how they are describing you. Do bear in mind that millions of people would also read it and feel its was written for them.

How can something so generic feel so specific?

The Human mind...

Now, i dont know what he told you, i dont know if it was totally specific or ambigiously generic, and i certainly dont know how he was able to fool everyone, but i do know that no one has ever proven to have a supernatural sense and so i remain skeptic about it and until he proves that he does, i would regard him as a good(or better yet, a very good) con artist/magician/mind-reader/whatever those lots are called...
Christianity EtcRe: A Baby Girl Shows Sign Of Jesus Coming Soon by donnffd(m): 9:13am On Jun 28, 2016
Funny enough, i heard this exact story a few months back but with a different plot

It was a boy whose hands was glued and after the operation, it was written on his palm in arabic, ALLAH IS GREAT...

Lol...Na wa o, tomorrow i go hear another one with BUDDHA IS LORD ALMIGHTY...
RomanceRe: When A Girl Says She Does Not Have A Boyfriend by donnffd(m): 11:08am On Jun 27, 2016
marvelck:
That's why I advise guys to always show some level of commitment whenever they are in a serious relationship. That's what most girls want. It's only a confused girl that would have a committed guy/relationship, and still be cheating or misbehaving...Love is commitment. And [b]commitment [/b]is honorable. To Naija girls, seeing is believing!
OP, Please educate me... define commitment in this context?
Christianity EtcRe: Top 10 Most Common Atheist Arguments, And Why They Fail So Woefully by donnffd(m): 10:52am On Jun 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
1 and 2 are why I call atheists confused people . You claimed God was imaginary in 1 and in 2 this same imaginary being became real to carry out despicable acts ? Apparently , God being real or imaginary to the atheist is a matter of convenience . He becomes imaginary to make a point and becomes real to make another point . So much confusion grin

This thread is already doing a good job on you smiley
Well, if thats confusion, then what is this?:-

1. Voldemort in "Harry Potter" is imaginary

2. If we all behaved like Voldemort in "Harry Potter", we would live in a very unpleasant society

Please point out my confusion...
Christianity EtcRe: What If Bible Stories Are Not True? by donnffd(m): 9:09am On Jun 27, 2016
thesicilian:
Even if the world ends today and we find out that the whole of Christianity is false, it would still have been a much more fulfilling life for Christians than all the other alternatives out there
You are actually living in a bubble... so you think other "alternatives" as you call it dont live fulfilling life because they dont accept your world view?... undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Brainwashed by donnffd(m): 7:08pm On Jun 22, 2016
cloudgoddess:
This is so ironic because religions like Christianity literally require brainwashing to thrive.


Click here for more
Exactly, took the words right out of my mouth
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Significance Of Life? by donnffd(m): 7:00pm On Jun 22, 2016
dovoule:
It's better to live a life believing in the existence of God than dying with doubt, realizing afterwards he truly existed.
On the otherhand, how about believing in God only to die to find out you were wrong about the real God?


I think i would take my chances...thanks very much
Christianity EtcRe: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by donnffd(m): 11:19am On Jun 21, 2016
winner01:
Its not surprising that you didnt request for the nobel prize of the lady (cloudgodess) whose thread I countered.
She wasnt bringing out new ideas, she was educating the uneducated and the misinformed.

You on the other hand wants to overturn 150years of established science on its head, when you successfully do, i am so certain you would get a Noble prize,but until then, keep up the good work, more grace to your elbows...


Evolution is important:- for those who cannot bear the reality of a Creator, for those who desperately want atheism to be true.
how do you explain the sheer amount of Religious people who accept reality for what it is?

Christianity EtcRe: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by donnffd(m): 10:00am On Jun 21, 2016
Clap for yourself, you have dismantled evolution and it is fake...

Where is your nobel prize?
Christianity EtcRe: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by donnffd(m): 8:46am On Jun 21, 2016
Dejideji1:
Bro it seems you didn't read the reply i gave @lilbrown. If you did, you wouldn't be asking that question above. Pls i won't repeat myself, go and read it.
if you want to reference a post, why dont you paste it here...after all, it wasnt me you sent the post to...I am tired of this argument sef...peace be unto you and your consciousness


I pray you experience the paranormal one of these days maybe that will shatter your believe system.
Please pray hard...
Christianity EtcRe: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by donnffd(m): 6:50am On Jun 21, 2016
Dejideji1:
It seems you don't get the concept of "reality" Oga memory and consciousness are two different things. I won't say this again.
I think I understand the issue here, its either you dont read posts, dont understand it or you jump to hasty conclusions.

I noticed the kind of consciousness you were talking about and decided to differentiate it and talk about the higher form, the one we would all agree is complex, but i see you keep talking about the elementary one so let me dumb it down for you.

A dog knows its alive, a cow knows its alive, a monkey, a fly, birds, frogs e.t.c all know they are alive...so you would agree they have some form of consciousness...so from your logic, i assume that there consciousness would survive their death too, correct?


She was too terrified to come out of the room and verify (who wants to see a ghost)
You see, thats the issue right there, she already concluded without even evaluating the possibilities...

Whatever i say, you would just counter it, so i wud just reserve my comment.

But this story is similar to a student who fails an exam, and then concludes that witches from his village is behind it...
Then you would now ask, how can i say witches is not real?

When witches has not be proven beyond reasonable doubt to be the cause of the failure...
Christianity EtcRe: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by donnffd(m): 5:02pm On Jun 20, 2016
Dejideji1:
This your question is not clear. Are you arguing that consciousness is not immaterial? You can't argue that because it's already an established fact. U may make further research on it.
I ddnt say that, dnt twist my words, you claim its immaterial and can survive the brain, i was asking how an immaterial thing could be damaged if it can exist without the material container...


Lost bits of themselves? that can only be memory which has nothing to do with consciousness.
Jeez, i taught i defined the kind of consciousness i was describing!!!...you want to tell me that memories is not part of being self-aware?

What is your Name? Deji!, ddnt you remember that your name was Deji? abi it was divinely put inside?

Lol thought you don't believe in God. This question shouldn't bother you. If I will answer that I will go spiritual. Which you can't reason with.
smh...



And how can you successfully execute that without the patient dying?
Sighs...you are killing me, what differentiates Humans from other animalshuh what ever that is, is in that part of the brain, remove it and a human is just another dumb animal...is that too hard to understand?



Bro i will give you one example you can relate to, not the NDE stuff. But right now my ba3 is almost empty. In fact i hurriedly answered the above.

I will come back to that example
waiting...
Christianity EtcRe: Question To The Atheists! by donnffd(m): 12:46pm On Jun 20, 2016
Basalt:
My brother you just ended up not answering my question.

And yes, Evolution is bulshit and does not make any sense.

Evolution tells you that you came out from apes but your logical sense will tell you that if actually we originated from apes, then what happens to other apes Now?
What stops them from Evolving into human beings
.

What stops a men from evolving into Angels or has The false story of evolution ended


Please somebody should answer these three questions.
All I see here is people beating around the bush
@bolded: If Americans came from british people, then why are there still british peoplehuhhuhhuhhuhhuh?

You cant expect an answer to those questions when those things you asked are not even verified yet
Christianity EtcRe: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by donnffd(m): 12:27pm On Jun 20, 2016
Dejideji1:
Bro, they didn't lose self awareness, (consciousness) if you lose it then you are as good as dead. they only lost some memories. Pls try to differentiate between the two. Or let me explain it in the simplest way: consciousness is just knowing that you are still alive.
i ddnt say they lost self-awareness, i said they lost bits of themselves, and how is that possible if its the material that got damaged, i taught consciousness is immaterial?

its like you ddnt read my post fully, i told you we should do some definitions and i assumed you were talking about the kind of consciousness humans have, if you are saying consciousness is just knowing that you are alive, then what differentiates humans from dogs, cows, elephants, dolphins, ANTS, and MOSQUITOEShuhhuh? Go back to the post and read it fully

Moreover you keep saying its just memories, so what happens to a person who commited murder all his life, hit his head in an accident, forgot all that he did and dies 3years later, when God and the angels decides to send him to hell for that, and he doesnt remember it and claims God is accusing him falsely, what would happenhuh



because self awareness (consciousness) is immaterial and you can't destroy something that is immaterial. But note that consciousness is a personal thing and that is what makes it difficult to explain.

For example someone that is dead we only see he/she as dead since he/she is no longer responding to stimulus but that is how we see it but what about the individual him self? I don't really know how to explain it but hope you get my point?

Some Philosophers see (mind) consciousness as the real being which is invisible and immaterial. And some physicists call it the "ultimate reality"
So when one is dead, you are left with the "ultimate reality" but it's only that individual that can experience it since consciousness is a personal thing.

your mind is the real being you are just using the material body to respond to stimuli in this material world. Think deep about this and you will see what i mean.
You havent answered the question boss, i said that if you remove the prefrontal cortex of the brain, you get a human that cannot think and is no different from a pig but he is alive and knows he is alive... how does that happen? better yet give me one example of how consciousness survived the death of the brain, then we start there, if you cant give me, then how can you claim that it can when you havent died beforehuh

and please dnt tell me NDE, those are just as speculative as alien abductions and its likes

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