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4everGod1:Your first definition of theory is exactly what scientists define as a theory, the second one is the normal everday usage of the word. Yes a theory is an idea that explains Facts and events 1. The big bang theory explains the fact that the universe is expanding, it explains the fact of the CMB, it explains why the universe is so evenly distributed. 2. The theory of evolution by Natural selection explains the facts of mutation and heritage, it explains why organisms ar so good at wat dey do in their environment. 3. The theory of General relativity explains the fact of gravity 4. The germ theory explains the fact of how little tiny organisms cause us illnesses 5. The theory of special relativity explains the fact of the constant speed of light. So you see, theories are not a guess, they are explanstions for well established facts, hypothesis is what you would regard as a guess. Please learn more about science, you would need it alot in our present world. |
4everGod1:*face palm* Look i am not going to argue with you, because your mind is already made up, trying to answer wud be like punching a brick wall, na me go get hurt so no need. I wud say one thing though, You agree with scientists on medicine, drugs, the internet, cars, airplanes, rockets, phones, cooking gas, gravity, electomagnetism, electricity e.t.c. The world is runned by the works of science but you think they are lying about evolution and the big bang? All i can say is, What a pity... |
4everGod1:Lol, most of your questions are disconnected and many of them are just ignorant. Please ask an intelligent question, one at a time, then i wud answer you to the best of my knowledge, but dis is not intelligent at all. Like asking if evolution is real, hw does it explain gravity? Seriously dude? |
4everGod1:You are wrong on a lot of levels here 1. Atheism is not a belief system, calling it a belief system is like calling sumone who doesnt watch football a football-fan 2. Most atheists dont claim to know for certain there is no gods, they only reject the existence of all the gods that has been claimed to hav existed due to insufficient evidence. 3. Atheist never said everything we see came from nothing, they only say "we dont know how it came about", you the religious folks ar the ones who claim to know how it came to be, but cant provide any evidence for your claims. |
joyandfaith:Einstein was a theist either, he was a pantheist, go check it out, he ddnt believe in a personal God, he just believed in a sense of order and beauty in which he called God. Thats part of the reason why he ddnt believe in the randomness of the quantum world because he wanted the universe to be ordered, and hence his mistake. The universe at its smallest scales is very disordered and probabilistic, a feature Einstein never believed it has. You theist have dis tradition of always accepting wat an authority tells you like your pastor and bishops, they are Gods representative so they cant be wrong. Well we dont have any authorities in science, even the best scientists of all time can be proven wrong. |
felixomor:http://www.iflscience.com/physics/scientists-prove-spooky-action-distance-absolutely-real/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3283317/Einstein-wrong-Ground-breaking-test-reveals-spooky-quantum-entanglement-phenomenon-real.html
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felixomor:are you a troll? or just plain ignorant?! If you dont know the difference between Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity, dont mention me again! |
felixomor:When atheists say religious folks dont use reason, it would look like we are bigoted... Go back to the post, i said "Einstein was wrong about QUANTUM MECHANICS" (or atleast his idea was). What has Quantum mechanics have to do with General Relativity(which was his masterpiece and the reason for GPS). |
SenatePresdo:This is how you guys read your bible out of context, do you know why Einstein said that?, i am pretty sure you dont Einstein was surprised at the Randomness of the Quantum world and the uncertainty in Quantum mechanics, he just couldnt wrap his head around it because it contradicts his own version of a smooth and curved universe hence he ddnt agree with the standard model, he made that statement in disbelief (and not because he was trying to elevate a god of some sort). Moreover, Einstein was extremely wrong about quantum mechanics, the randomness and spookiness of the Quantum world has been confirmed many times over with our modern technologies. So please, next time, quote in actual context, this is not your church! |
There is no point trying to give you an explanation because you never would be satisfied with it. Your mind has already been conditioned in such a way that when anything that is beyond your scope of comprehension happens, you attribute it to God, or spiritual forces and the likes. If you were born 2500years ago in ancient greece and had this same scenerio, you would say it was the work of Zeus If you were born 4000years ago in ancient egypt and had this same scenerio, you would say it was the work of Horus, or Isis or watever gods you believed in If you were an Indian, and had this same scenerio, you would argue that it was the Lord Vishnu and his son Krishna that protected your son. Noone can change your mind, especially not an atheist. |
Image123:When you see a certain atheist bash a certain religion constantly, its not because that religion is the so-called right one or special one, its just because that was the religion he was deluded with and obviously knows much if not all about it. Most atheist here break out from Christianity, its only logical they wud attack christianity(fyi, not christians). If you found an atheist in iraq, i bet you he would attack islam 98% of the time. Please, stop deluding yourself that your faith is any special |
Dejideji1:Trust me, the last thing i want this morning is to be doing tug of war with you... But you mentioned bakassi, so i decided to make a statement... accept it or reject it, na you sabi |
Intrepid01:@bolded...how can someone have proof of non-existence did you go to school? did you do logic at all?...if you have no proof for your claim, the default position is to reject the claim, thats the logical thing to do not to come and be asking for proof of non-existence. |
Dejideji1:You said late 90s....Yes i grew up believing in those things, bakassi boys, gbomo-gbomo and the likes. Do remember we ddnt have the internet(or rather it wasnt as rampant as now), we ddnt have smart phones with cameras and the likes Now we do, all those things seems to have run underground. there is videos of aluu boys burnt alive, there is videos of chibok girls and so on BUT Guess what we dont have up till now, No video of a bakassi boy chesting bullet, or no video of a child turning to yam because she picked money from the floor even with the sheer number of smart phones with cameras across the country and planet. And you want us to believe these things really did happen. It is written in the bible and i would para-phrase, when i was a child, i walked and talked and acted like a child, but as i became a man, i put away childish things... |
I dont think its religion per say that underdevelops society, i think its dogmatism and inability to embrace change, which is one of the core principles of many religions but not all. In terms of development and industrialization, no country has grown faster than the far eastern countries(China,Japan, South korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Hongkong e.t.c) and many of them are religious. The jews are the most prosperous in any society that they are found and presently have gotten about 70% of all the nobel prizes won. This goes to show that religion is not the problem, but if you examine closely, these religions has something majority dont, their willingness to change and accept new truths of the world. Buddhism and Judaism are the two least dogmatic religions so far, go check it out, they are willing to learn and discuss and form new truths as the human condition changes. So in essence, what am i saying, Healthy Religion is not bad for society, Dogmatic religion is the main evil of human kind. |
thelish:go back 300years, do you think an average man on the street would believe that there is a technology or can be a technology that can make you talk to sumone at the other side of the world instantaneously? i think not... Funny enough, if we get the transcripts of what the prophet told you, we would discover that it was somewhat generic and mind-stealing...i.e he used a previous question to give you a conclusion, so called mind-readers do it alot |
thelish:Even if you dnt have reasonable proof, its still not enough to claim that it was from God or satan, theres no prove for that either... If someone doesnt understand how a phone works(talking to people half-way across the world in an instant), does it automatically means that it was God that did the phone or the phone must have had supernatual powers? |
thelish:The issue we mostly have is that we have been drilled to assume that once we dont understand something, then it must be the work of God or a supernatural occurence. Thats a mentality we need to shred to be able to be in full control of our lives and the world around us. No, i dont think they are from God or any supernatural beings for that matter until reasonable prove as been provided. |
thelish:I dont think you would be able to get a scientific explanation to it. Just the same way you cant get an accurate scientific explanation behind Horoscope. Have you noticed that those horoscope thingy works 95% of the time even though we know its just a sham. Just try it, look for you sign and read what was written about your sign, you would be amazed at how they are describing you. Do bear in mind that millions of people would also read it and feel its was written for them. How can something so generic feel so specific? The Human mind... Now, i dont know what he told you, i dont know if it was totally specific or ambigiously generic, and i certainly dont know how he was able to fool everyone, but i do know that no one has ever proven to have a supernatural sense and so i remain skeptic about it and until he proves that he does, i would regard him as a good(or better yet, a very good) con artist/magician/mind-reader/whatever those lots are called... |
Funny enough, i heard this exact story a few months back but with a different plot It was a boy whose hands was glued and after the operation, it was written on his palm in arabic, ALLAH IS GREAT... Lol...Na wa o, tomorrow i go hear another one with BUDDHA IS LORD ALMIGHTY... |
marvelck:OP, Please educate me... define commitment in this context? |
KingEbukaNaija:Well, if thats confusion, then what is this?:- 1. Voldemort in "Harry Potter" is imaginary 2. If we all behaved like Voldemort in "Harry Potter", we would live in a very unpleasant society Please point out my confusion... |
thesicilian:You are actually living in a bubble... so you think other "alternatives" as you call it dont live fulfilling life because they dont accept your world view?... ![]() |
cloudgoddess:Exactly, took the words right out of my mouth |
dovoule:On the otherhand, how about believing in God only to die to find out you were wrong about the real God? I think i would take my chances...thanks very much |
winner01:She wasnt bringing out new ideas, she was educating the uneducated and the misinformed. You on the other hand wants to overturn 150years of established science on its head, when you successfully do, i am so certain you would get a Noble prize,but until then, keep up the good work, more grace to your elbows... Evolution is important:- for those who cannot bear the reality of a Creator, for those who desperately want atheism to be true.how do you explain the sheer amount of Religious people who accept reality for what it is?
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Clap for yourself, you have dismantled evolution and it is fake... Where is your nobel prize? |
Dejideji1:if you want to reference a post, why dont you paste it here...after all, it wasnt me you sent the post to...I am tired of this argument sef...peace be unto you and your consciousness I pray you experience the paranormal one of these days maybe that will shatter your believe system.Please pray hard... |
Dejideji1:I think I understand the issue here, its either you dont read posts, dont understand it or you jump to hasty conclusions. I noticed the kind of consciousness you were talking about and decided to differentiate it and talk about the higher form, the one we would all agree is complex, but i see you keep talking about the elementary one so let me dumb it down for you. A dog knows its alive, a cow knows its alive, a monkey, a fly, birds, frogs e.t.c all know they are alive...so you would agree they have some form of consciousness...so from your logic, i assume that there consciousness would survive their death too, correct? She was too terrified to come out of the room and verify (who wants to see a ghost)You see, thats the issue right there, she already concluded without even evaluating the possibilities... Whatever i say, you would just counter it, so i wud just reserve my comment. But this story is similar to a student who fails an exam, and then concludes that witches from his village is behind it... Then you would now ask, how can i say witches is not real? When witches has not be proven beyond reasonable doubt to be the cause of the failure... |
Dejideji1:I ddnt say that, dnt twist my words, you claim its immaterial and can survive the brain, i was asking how an immaterial thing could be damaged if it can exist without the material container... Lost bits of themselves? that can only be memory which has nothing to do with consciousness.Jeez, i taught i defined the kind of consciousness i was describing!!!...you want to tell me that memories is not part of being self-aware? What is your Name? Deji!, ddnt you remember that your name was Deji? abi it was divinely put inside? Lol thought you don't believe in God. This question shouldn't bother you. If I will answer that I will go spiritual. Which you can't reason with.smh... And how can you successfully execute that without the patient dying?Sighs...you are killing me, what differentiates Humans from other animals what ever that is, is in that part of the brain, remove it and a human is just another dumb animal...is that too hard to understand?Bro i will give you one example you can relate to, not the NDE stuff. But right now my ba3 is almost empty. In fact i hurriedly answered the above.waiting... |
Basalt:@bolded: If Americans came from british people, then why are there still british people ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ?You cant expect an answer to those questions when those things you asked are not even verified yet |
Dejideji1:i ddnt say they lost self-awareness, i said they lost bits of themselves, and how is that possible if its the material that got damaged, i taught consciousness is immaterial? its like you ddnt read my post fully, i told you we should do some definitions and i assumed you were talking about the kind of consciousness humans have, if you are saying consciousness is just knowing that you are alive, then what differentiates humans from dogs, cows, elephants, dolphins, ANTS, and MOSQUITOES ![]() ? Go back to the post and read it fully Moreover you keep saying its just memories, so what happens to a person who commited murder all his life, hit his head in an accident, forgot all that he did and dies 3years later, when God and the angels decides to send him to hell for that, and he doesnt remember it and claims God is accusing him falsely, what would happen ![]() because self awareness (consciousness) is immaterial and you can't destroy something that is immaterial. But note that consciousness is a personal thing and that is what makes it difficult to explain.You havent answered the question boss, i said that if you remove the prefrontal cortex of the brain, you get a human that cannot think and is no different from a pig but he is alive and knows he is alive... how does that happen? better yet give me one example of how consciousness survived the death of the brain, then we start there, if you cant give me, then how can you claim that it can when you havent died before ![]() and please dnt tell me NDE, those are just as speculative as alien abductions and its likes |
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did you go to school? did you do logic at all?...if you have no proof for your claim, the default position is to reject the claim, thats the logical thing to do not to come and be asking for proof of non-existence.

