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Christianity Etc › Re: Who is your Favorite Popular Pastor or Preacher in Nigeria? by donnie(m): 8:09am On Oct 10, 2005
Sir Kay,

I do not agree that if the whole councel of God is preached the congregation will be little. Afterall it is the gospel of their freedom from sin, sickness, poverty and death.

Every one wants to be free. Even though they live in sin...it is because they have not heared that they can be free...that is why we are still preaching.

When they hear that they can be free, they embrace that message and believe the gospel. Even those who sin do not like thier situation because sin itself condemns a man. It is bondage.

The bible says multitudes followed Jesus. Was He a false prophet?
You attend deeper life....they have a large congregation as well. Are they false teachers?

Jesus said that from John the baptist up till now, the Kingdom of God is prached, and men are pressing into it!

Are you angry that the harlot on the street can also recieve the gospel and be saved? Jesus embraced harlots and drunkards as well. He gave their lives new meaning.

If it is the real Jesus you preach men will hear you and come to you. What is important is that you preach the whole councel of God and not selected portions of the gospel.

You must understand that when the whole councel of God is prached under the annointing of God's Spirit. The Holy Spirit begins to convict the sinner of His sins even if you did not address His situation at that time.

Jesus came to set men free from the bondage of sin... But sin is the mother of sickness, poverty and death. Because sin has been dealt with by the blood of Jesus, the result is healing, prosperity and life. And this is what man seeks.

God bless.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 7:45am On Oct 10, 2005
Sir Kay,

For sure you are acquinted with the teachings of Jesus and sound doctrine. That is the right attitude to have. No one who has  been exposed to the truth of Gods Word and the guidiance of the holy Spirit can be decieved. At least, not for too long.

You may decieve a true christian for a while but not for too long...because the Spirit in Him will soon reveal falsehood and He will be set free.

Because He is the Spirit of Truth and  He dwells in the heart of the believer who recieves Him and allows himself to be  taught by Him through God's Word.
Christianity Etc › Re: The NBC ban of unverified TV miracles in Nigeria by donnie(m): 10:09am On Oct 07, 2005
Kamakula,
I will not respond to you because you do not look like someone who is disposed to sound reason....neither will i glorify your comments about me or about miracles by responding to them.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 10:04am On Oct 07, 2005
otokx,

you most probably do not  understand the meaning of the word tithe...
It means one-tenth (ten persent).

So to say that Abraham did not pay tithe but gave 10% is tautology...because that is what the tithe is...10%, one-tenth.

And by the way, the old testament clearly defined it and defined its practice because they understood that as children of Abraham, they should live according to the faith of Abraham.in his steps.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 9:58am On Oct 07, 2005
This is what u quoted...

Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

...Do not leave those others (including tithing) undone.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 2:55pm On Oct 02, 2005
Mr HND,

i was not supprised when i saw your response on the Mormon article.
...saying there are many ways to get to the Father. Is that what maturing in the srcipture is all about? ....where you begin to juggle the word of God so as to please governments and people of other faiths. If you know the one you serve you will take back those words.

Jesus died for the whole world and not just for christians. That is why we are preaching everywhere that they may hear the message of their salvation.

This is irrespective of government policies of religious differences. Jesus is Lord and some day, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that He is Lord. Muslims, jews, etheists, bushists...they will all bow and confess that jesus is Lord.

He will judge this world in righteousness...according to the Word of the prophets of the bible.

Jesus will rule this world when he comes (according to the scriptures.) The bible tells us that the government shall be upon His shoulders.
He wiil overthrow the kingdoms of men and establish his heavenly kingdom on the earth. And all thiose who did not accept him will suffer eternally. Does that mean anything to you?

Forget the laws and system that is operating now...they will be overthrown. The bible says Jesus will overthrow their kingdoms and rule this earth.

Preaach the gospel fearlessly, regardless...for those that are appointed to salvation will hear you and be saved.

You will never know the power of God and the miraculous until you are convinced that this gospel is God's only power to save anyone. That is one sure way of knowing thos who are full of God's Spirit...they are convinced about the gospel...enough to risk their lives for it.

-Rom 1:16,17
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel: it is the power of God for salvation to every one who has faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, "He who through faith is righteous shall live."

They call us fanatics but we are not moved ...because the apostles suffered the same...they were killed, stoned and imprisoned for what they believed...but they rejoiced in hope of a heavenly kingdom.

The rapture is not for those who are light-hearted and who compromise their faith to suit others.

You called me childish in my thinking and understanding of God's word...well see this:

Matthew 18:3 - "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."   

...this is the only way to seeing God's glory in your life.believe like a child.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 4:20pm On Sep 29, 2005
I know your kind....you just have words...

I doubt if you you are born again. If you are, you definitely have not recieved of His holy spirit.

The letter kills, but the spirit gives life. Do not think i am trying to impress you by showing you scriptures. I have been in active christianity for a long time....and i have come across a lot of folks i tell u.

You can read from the bible, but if you are not full of His spirit, what you read will only further confuse you. I do not read the scriptures so i can quote them in arguements. I am a doer of the Word. The Word is living in me...in every fibre of my being. I am born of His Spirit. Are you?

If you are, His love will be shed abroad in your heart and will be released each time you speak. His power will freely be demonstrated through. and your life will bring many to the knowledge of God and His wonderful presence and power.

When jesus is Lord of your life, he tames your tongue... you can only speak for Him and for His word ....and not just what you think or feel. You will be afraid to speak evil of His work.
You will be afraid to speak evil of His ministers and his prophets. You will rather pray and weep when you see something or someone go wrong rather than catigate them openly.

You will love all that call up on him. If you have never been filled with His spirit, i ask you to call upon Him today and ask Him to fill you with this precious third person of the Godhead. then you will know of His love, of his saving power and of His miracle workoing power.

The Holy spirit will reveal God's word to you. Because He is the author. Speaking evil about what you do not understand or practice will destroy you. God Bless you.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 6:26pm On Sep 28, 2005
Mind u....

I am not trying to convince u.

Your kind may not be convinced , even if Jesus appeared. I am only bringing some illuminaiton your way.

1 Corinthians 3:1 - And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 

This is the corinthian church for you.

When the church matures this is what happens:

Acts 6:2-4 "Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables. 3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. 4[b] But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word. "[/b]
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 6:17pm On Sep 28, 2005
A word they say, is enough for the wise.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 6:01pm On Sep 28, 2005
This is the example of Jesus:

And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

Will u rather be like Jesus or Like your fellows who have neither the character of christ nor the fullness of his spirit.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 5:47pm On Sep 28, 2005
Acts 5:33-40

"When they heard this they were enraged and wanted to kill them. 34 But a Pharisee in the council named Gama'li-el, a teacher of the law, held in honor by all the people, stood up and ordered the men to be put outside for a while. 35 And he said to them, "Men of Israel, take care what you do with these men. 36 For before these days Theu'das arose, giving himself out to be somebody, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined him; but he was slain and all who followed him were dispersed and came to nothing. 37 After him Judas the Galilean arose in the days of the census and drew away some of the people after him; he also perished, and all who followed him were scattered. 38 So in the present case I tell you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this undertaking is of men, it will fail; 39 but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!" 40 So they took his advice..."
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mormon Religion by donnie(m): 5:26pm On Sep 28, 2005
Acts 4:12-"And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 4:46pm On Sep 28, 2005
If you saw me praying with my eyes closed you will not wonder and call me fake because you most probably do the same things.

The miracles you see him perform are not new to me 'cos i see the same in my ministry.

I do not have to be a member of His church to stand and speak for TRUTH!

i've never met the man....i've never even been to his church.

It is better to speak for than to speak againt especially when you do not understand a thing. If you speak for you will only be following your master Jesus but if you speak aginst , you are at the risk of judgement.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 1:25pm On Sep 27, 2005
I did not say you do not recieve God's blessings by faith of by grace... but there is a higher level of living...beyond the ordinary. Do u know what God called Abraham in Blessing him? "Possesor Of Heaven and Earth. Abraham paid tithe in response to this blessing from God...as a covenant minded man.

In blessing Him, [b]God gave him the world, the nations of the earth and you know what? he made us heirs of these blessings. [/b]
We can only respond the same way Abraham deed. If you don't understand that, sorry. ."You see, that is what disobeying God's command delibrately brings to you...'fear'.

Even if He didn't which you cannot guarantee, it is important for you to know that revelation then is not as we have today. Revelation increases. Besides you should understand that they were just beginning to understand God's ways. That was a baby church. He was sent to the gentiles who were not familiar with the law or the abrahamic covenant. So he needed to apppeal to them and sometimes plead with thm. He even had to take a job as a tent maker to  catter for his own needs. But was this the best for the congregation.

Where their man of God will leave Study of God's Word and prayer to see how he can catter for his need and those of others...he will be left with little time to hear from God.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mormon Religion by donnie(m): 12:23pm On Sep 27, 2005
There are no two ways to the father....Jesus is the only way. He is THE way, THE truth and[b] THE [/b] life. That is a definite article, "THE".
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mormon Religion by donnie(m): 6:25pm On Sep 26, 2005
I do not know much about them...but i have seen some of their books. I must say her that they are very dubious. That book of Mormon is a complete fraud. They steal from the bible here and there and yet call the book they copied some other funny name.

I was told by someone who's studied them that by the time you become a member and grow in there, you come to a point where they tell you some strange things. Like:

Jesus and satan were actually brothers..but they had a misunderstanding. And that satan isnt that evil afterall.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 5:23pm On Sep 26, 2005
Mr. HND-holder

God alone is Holy...TRUE. But He has given us of His Holiness and righteousness free of Charge...by the blood of Christ. So as new creations in Christ , we have recieved His free gift of righteousness and we have put on His holiness even as we put on Christ.

2cor 5:21
" For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."

Rom 5:17.
"If, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ"

Now we are taking advantage of that rigteousness to reign over sickness, disease, satan and all the forces of Hell.

Jesus' ministry was also a hospital for the wounded, sick, cast down and broken hearted. He said to his disciples,"heal the sick, cast out devils...freely you recieved, freely give".

Matthew 9:12
But when he heard it, he said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick".  He is the master Physician.

He does not only heal the soul of sin, but he heals our bodies of sickness and disease.

Isiah 53 :5
"But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed."

Even though we do not preach healing, as long as it is the messsage of the living christ, His power follows our message and there will of necessity be healings and miracles. Because He will confirm His Word with signs following... to prove that He sent us.

So if it is the true message of Christ you are preaching and He sent you, you will see miracles.

Heb 10:38,39
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. And we are witnesses of all things... "

This is what the annointing of the Holy Ghost is for. This is the ministry of Jesus...

Lk 4:18
"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord"

That is what etenal life is all about... you cannot recieve that life and remain sick or broke. This is the very life and nature of God!


1John 5:11
" And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who has not the Son of God has not life."
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 5:04pm On Sep 26, 2005
1cor.2:14-" But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

1cor3:19-" For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness."
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 7:30pm On Sep 25, 2005
Enigma,

I never said you should not give alms to the poor and needy. That has its place. Those of us who tithe also do that as well.

You give alms and free will offerings but you pay your tithes...and there is the right place to pay the tithe.

The bible does not ask us to give tithes but to[b] pay [/b] tithes. Because it belongs to the Lord. In the old testament, you could not take your tithes just anywhere, it had to be brought to the temple where it is recieved by the Levis.

The bible tells us that it is the house of God that the Lord commandeth the blessing. There is a blessing ( an annointing) on your man of God that is for you.

Abraham paid tithes ever before the old testament (with the law of Moses) began.

The old testament folks paid tithes because they were the children of Abraham. And since their father paid tithes and they were covenanted to God through him, they had to pay tihes as well.

Abraham was in Covenant with Elshadai and tithing is a covenant principle. He paid tithes to Melchsadec and we paid tihes in him just as the Levites paid tithes in him.

Heb 7:9,10 -"One might even say that Levi himself, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham,  for he was still in the loins of his ancestor when Melchiz'edek met him".

Just as Abraham was their father of faith, so he is our father of faith today.

Rom 4:16-"That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his descendants--not only to the adherents of the law but also to those who share the faith of Abraham, for he is the father of us all"

So tithing is not a way the church uses to raise money of like some of you have alledged, or
that pastors use to enrich thmselves; it is a covenant principle from God with promise of blessings for obedience and a curse for disobedience.

That curse is what is working in the klife of the ordinary man...the one who has no covenant with God.he struggles to make a living all by himself ...his natural strenght, wisdom and ability.without the grace and power of God working for him. Read Malachi 3:10
God said He will rebuke the devour..that is the one who come to steal your blessings. The tithe secures the rest of Gods blessings in your life.

This is wisdom: If you pay your tithe, is there any harm in there?...in fact, there are great blessings promised. But what if it is right for us to pay our tihes and you don't, there is a curse...Is it not wise for u to choose to be on the safe side?

[b]Tithing i usually say, is not for everyone...it is for covenant minded people like Abraham...Those who have chosen not to rely on human principles but on principles of faith as taught us by our father of faith , Abraham. Those who have chosen to prosper supernaturally.[/b]I think i understand why it is difficult for some of you to accept. You probaly belong to some orthodox church where they do not believe in or practice tithing. But if you belong in a church where it is preahed and you do not practice it, you are in the wrong and my advice for you is that you leave that church because you will not get blessed since you ar walking in disobedience.

For others, especially those who are accusing pastors of trying to get their money, their problem is that they do not trust their pastors enough to entrust their tithes in to their hands.
They think he will run away with the money or use it for private use. I don't blame them much...
bc that could be the case in their churches.

Well, i trust my man of God. He is always the first to put God's Word to practice. He is about the biggest giver in our ministry. He is a very trustworhty servant of God. When our ministry first started, He did not collect offerings or tithes. He did not believe in tithing and preached against it saying it was for the old testament . But then revelation came to him and he discovered from God word that it is for today and that he would be depriving us of Gods favour and blessings if he did not collect tithes.

Like i said, it depends on where u are coming from. When you have a man of God that is selfless you know that any money you give him will go into the furtherance of the gospel.

For some anyway, their problem is sheer greed...they are greedy so they will never give their tithes to  their pastor.

In a recent project we are carrying out in church costing about N500mil, i am aware that my pastor has already given N80mil as a person for the project and intends to give more. I do not belong to a small ministry. We do not in our ministry argue over whether or not to pay tithes. We are doing mighty things for the kingdom of God. Souls are gettings saved by the millions all over the world. It is not in a  church like mine wher you will be struggling to keep your N10,000 abi N2,000 tithe. Before you open your mouth, someone has dropped his car key for the gospel to move forward.

So have a rethink ok.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Did God Reveal Himself to You? by donnie(m): 6:32pm On Sep 25, 2005
Psalms 14:1 - To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 5:06pm On Sep 24, 2005
i did not say your blessings are tied to tithing....but i said that you must tithe to guarantee your enjoyment of these blessings. Just like jesus died for all...but u must believe in Him and confess Him as Lord to make that salvation that is avaialable for all vital for u!
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 5:03pm On Sep 24, 2005
Abi

it is a dubious way of inteerpreting scripture.....where it concerns money, they choose which part of God's word to obey.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 4:46pm On Sep 24, 2005
Hey, new commer,

Tithes are not for beggers and widows.

That one has its own place. Let me show you why.

Tithes are to be brought to God's house and not used for any other purpose ...even for offerings. they are meant to cause the blessing ( a particular blessing...or annointing) to rest in your house. You cannot get that blessing by tking your tithe anywhere.

...besides it is God's money(not yours) and belongs in the house of God!

See this:

Numbers 18:7,8- "Therefore thou and thy sons with thee shall keep your priest's office for everything of the altar, and within the vail; and ye shall serve: I have given your priest's office unto you as a service of gift: and the stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death. 8 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, Behold, I also have given thee the charge of mine heave offerings of all the hallowed things of the children of Israel; unto thee have I given by the reason of the anointing, and to thy sons, by an ordinance for ever".

The reason you bring your tithes and offering to the house of God is to have the power of God rest with you and your house. It by reson of the annointing (the power of God).

i advice you read my earlier postings.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by donnie(m): 3:21pm On Sep 24, 2005
Mr. HND-Holder,

Did you say Philosophy to make money?

Since you have been eating your tithe has anyone come to arrest you...That is to tell  you that though God commands it , it is not compulsory. Just like it is not compuslory to go to heaven or to prosper or to enjoy divine health.

Talking About Malachi 3, you must understand that the Isrealites were commanded to pay tihtes because they were children of Abraham...and as such they were expected to walk as He did. We are the Spiritual Children of Abraham and as such are expected to do the same.

Hebrews 7:4 - "Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. 5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: 6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. 8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9 "

This person (melchisedec) was God Himself in form of a man...If you study correctly.

It says "...but there(refering to heaven) He(christ) recieveth[b](present continous tense)[/b] them(tithes), of whom it is witnessed that he liveth". It is witnessed by us that christ lives...and He recieves tithes from us. Dont you understand?

These are choices you make ...to walk with God by faith in His Word.

Is it  my fault that you do not understand scripture? Those who have the revelation and are obedient, putting it to work are  being blessed and as such , do not want to stop tithing.

So go ahead and eat your tithe. Do i know you? Do you attend my church? So it is really not my business whether you believe it or not.it is God's word!

Only time will tell whether it was your money or God's money you were eating abi? So go ahead and do not think that you can give me a rubb-off of that stingy nature of yours because i have gone past that level. I have been paying my tithe for years and i tell you...It WORKS!

While you still struggling  with whether  to tihte or not, others have gone past that level and have gone ahead to do big things for God that will make you marvel. Some are giving their lands, houses and cars as offerings for the furtherance of the gospel. What you are struggling to get or keep, others are giving away for the sake of the Gospel.

By the way, why are you so angry with Pastors? is it your money they are using?
Are you not ashamed that even without your money, there is so much going on in the Kingdom? people are giving their lives to Christ by the millions everyday and you are still there with your hands as tight as arradite. You know what? KEEP UR MONEY! The gospel will still go round the world in preparation for our master's return.

Maybe i should help you because i see that you have a problem with understanding prophesy and  its interpretation. Many times when you read a prophesy be careful because there is what we call the Law of Double Reference. When Prophets speak, they could speak addressing a particular people and yet at the same time, be refering to another people. They could speak as refering to the past and at the same time be refering to the future.

Jesus said that no prophesy of scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20-21 - "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost".  

For instance, When the bible talks about Isreal or Zion, many times it Prophetically refers to the Church of Jesus Christ.

Psalms 2:6 - "I have set my king on Zion, my holy hill."  

Psalms 14:7 -" O that deliverance for Israel would come out of Zion! When the LORD restores the fortunes of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, Israel shall be glad."

This deliverance came in Christ Jesus.

Psalms 20:2 - May he send you help from the sanctuary, and give you support from Zion!  

Psalms 48:2 - beautiful in elevation, is the joy of all the earth, Mount Zion, in the far north, the city of the great King.  

Psalms 48:11 - let Mount Zion be glad! Let the daughters of Judah rejoice because of thy judgments!  

This is talking about TODAY!  

You must Understand that we are the Spiritual Isreal or Zion. While they were the natural decendants of Abraham, we are the Spiritual decendants... otherwise, you have no hope of salvation.

Look at this:

Eph. 2:12 -remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near in the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility.

And this:

Heb 12: 22 -"But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel.

So when next you see Isreal or Zion, take care, because it could just be refering to you (that is if you are born-again).
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 4:25pm On Sep 23, 2005
'They speak evil about what they do not unuderstand...whose end is destruction'

If Jesus never spat on the ground to heal a blid man and i did it and got a man healed, u will call me a devil. BE CAREFUL.

... i cast out devils myself and i know how they could respond..... they can move in the direction of your hand wherever u send them when they are under your authority.

Let God teach u.
Christianity Etc › Re: The NBC ban of unverified TV miracles in Nigeria by donnie(m): 3:59pm On Sep 22, 2005
Listen Mr. Seun,

If you are looking for a proof, i am a living proof. I have experienced a miracle of healing before in a healing crusade of Christ Embassy. Apart from that, I have witnessed a blind man regain his sight in one of Pator Chris' meetings in Port Harcourt. I was a councellor in that meeting and i took record of that particular testimony and refered the man to a doctor for testing(verification). Every one of those miracles you see on TV. have been tested and proved by trained doctors who are part of the healing team. We usually have thousands of doctors, nurses and biochemists in this team.

Listen, don't bother yourself 'because the NBC knows for sure that the miracles are true. That is why up till now, they have not come up with an approved verification body or even a well laid down procedure for verification. They are just acting on instructions.

Common sense can tell u this...the miracles have been on air for several years now and we have not heared of a single case of fraud ...of someone who had been paid money to testify.

I read about a lady who is a senior officer of NBC who said that Nigerian doctors were not trust worthy and as such should not be given the resposibility of verifying these miracles. This woman happened to be the wife of the General Overseer of Four square gospel Church, who was at the time, the vice president of the PFN and also a major supporter of the Ban. So the Churches can't verify, Nigerian doctors are too currupt to verify...So NBC becomes all and all...from prosecutor to "Almighty judge"!

My question for these PFN leaders is this: They believe in Benny Hinn and Renhard Bonke's ministries. Is it easier for them to go to America to verify miracles than to go to the addresses of those we put on TV? Their names and addresses are available. These people have clear identities in Nigeria. Why don't they go there to prove the miracles wrong?

Many of those who are shown on TV have medical certificates to prove their conditions.
The NBC could even book for an appointment with the healing school of christ embassy so as to interview the candidates and watch the healing service live.

But they would not do this...they are only interested in carrying out their anti-christ inspiresd campaign. Unfortunately for those christians who are supporters of the bann, they are unaware of the fact that they are dancing to the tune of the Spirit of the Anti-Christ.

Anyone who will say that people should not be given opportunity to say what the Lord has done for them is only voicing the thoughts of demons...many of which have been cast out by these great men of God and are working hard at stopping further destruction of their kingdom.  Christians who support this are driven by envy and jealousy and  have yielded to the Spirit of the Anti-Christ without knowing.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Did God Reveal Himself to You? by donnie(m): 9:34am On Sep 20, 2005
God does not have to reveal himself in a spectacular way as many claim he did. Even though he does so in the lives of some.

No vision, appparition, trance or revelation could be more revealing of who God is and what His purpose is for our lives than the Living Written Word of God.

The surest and most reliable revelation of God you can have is from HIS WRITTEN WORD!

The bible says in 2 Peter 1:19 - "We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts"

The bible revelation of God we get from the Prophets, the old testament, from jesus teachings and from the new Testament are the most reliable sources of revelation.

As for me, i heard His Word ...and it was shown me from the scriptures that Jesus did all that there was to be done for my salvation, healing , deliverance and prosperity and that there was nothing left to be done than to believe in what He did for me on the cross, believe that he rose from the dead and confess him as the Lord of my life. That is what i did and i recieved Jesus into my Life and the salvation that He gives to all who call on Him. In my spirit, i became awakened to the fatherhood of God and according to the Word of God, i asked him to fill me with His precious Holy spirit which i longed for and he did without hesitation.

Now, for the Christian, it is The Holy Spirit that reveals Jesus and God the Father.

John 14:26 -"These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you".

John 16:13 -"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you".
Christianity Etc › Re: The Purpose of Life (why were we created?) by donnie(m): 6:01pm On Sep 19, 2005
The Word has this to say in 1peter 2:9: "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light".

It is a bit louder in the Amplified translation:

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a dedicated nation, [God's] own purchased, special people, that you may set forth the wonderful deeds and display the virtues and perfections of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

Also from Eph 2:10 of the Ampliofied Translation, it says:

For we are God's [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew] that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live].





Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Soul & Spirit - Whats the difference? by donnie(m): 5:20pm On Sep 19, 2005
Dear Layi,

Your concience is the voice of ur human Spirit. Your concience will tell you if you are in the right or in the wrong. That is why we must feed our Spirits with Gods word.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 5:09pm On Sep 19, 2005
If u say the miracles are fake or demonic, then show us the true miracles ....that are just as powerful, then we will believe.

The way to deal with darkness is not by trying to fight darkness..... JUST PUT ON THE LIGHT and the darkness will leave!

So until u can do the same miracles, its best u be quiet or u will never see them in ur life.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Church Do You Attend? by donnie(m): 12:29pm On Sep 17, 2005
Christ Embassy of course, where we give your life a meaning.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T. B. Joshua: The Man in the Synagogue by donnie(m): 11:54am On Sep 17, 2005
Let me tell u something, many of the penticostal leaders in Nigeria believe in TB Josuah's ministry. If they did not a few years ago, they do now. They are just afraid to confess him openly... like the bible tells us that many of the pharisees believed in Jesus but they did not confess him openly so as not to be put out of the synagogue.

They have reealised that the man is even winning more souls in to the kingdom and edifying a lot more than they have ever done in their years of ministry.

That is why i love Pastor chris Oyakhilome. He would rather say and do what pleases the Lord rather than what people want to hear. He is a fearless Man of God.


Jesus said he will use the foolish things of this world to confound the wise.

The changes u have observed in the ministry of TB Josuah are the work of the Holy spirit who is our teacher and strengthener and not the work of man.

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