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OP, I thought I warned you to always take your drugs first thing in the morning?
Now see what you have done!

freecocoa: So a friend of mine called me asking my opinion on this issue.

A very dear friend of hers is having a birthday bash, he invited and she'd really love to go because he's someone she holds dear plus she really wants to have some fun, now she told her friend she'd be there and on the D day gets set to go and told tells her boyfriend(she went to spend sometime with him), he said in quote "you are not going anywhere" and she thought it was a joke, asked why? he said "I don't want You to", she then said let's go together if you are worried about anything, he still refused saying he isn't worried.
She says she's going and he said "don't say I didn't warn you" , she's asking if its wrong to disobey him.

You can guess what I told her, now let's know what you think.

Tell that guy *WAKA*!

Na for NL him dey find babe
Tell your guy say him just jam tipper wey carry gravel!

Agbgift: So u don lost the charger wey u borrow for hand?.
Oya find am well o.
@ op nor worry, d doctor/nurse dey come.

I don lose am oooo!
E be like I forget am for that Mama Iyabo kiosk

kingofpool: Make i help you cos you be my nija broda... Oya kum collect my own wey get multiple chargin teeth tenk

Oya bring am make I manage!
But if e burn my fone, na double wahala for dead body oooo!

All these things just to make a girl love me
Bullshit!
Couldn't even read to the end of it.

dtermined: Listen up girls! 10 Nice Ways To Dump Your Boyfriend! http://dtermined.viralgalleries.me/10-nice-ways-to-dump-your-boyfriend

Why waste people's time?
You must not create a thread!

OP I dey find BlackBerry charger, you get?

BRAV0O: I meet her online last week she ask for r-cards today ,I dunno no if #200 naira is too small or okay or I shouldn't send at all so she won't started taking me for maga

What! ?
And you expect an answer to this question?
Man! You're hooked up with an e-criminal!

sportin: Hello Guys, I really need help. .i've been asking this girl out for about 6 years now and she has always been keen on her reply being NO. .but recently she admitted the fact the she feels the same way for me and she only couldn't tell me then because we were in school and she never wanted any relationship, so I asked her if we could date and she said NO again and I asked her why then she said she doesn't trust me tho' she's got feelings for me she can't just bring herself to trust me tho' I used to be a playboy when we were in schl but a lot has changed and I wish to have her as the only girl in my life. .I've tried convincing her that my feelings are real but she still doesn't believe me. .how do I make her gain my trust? .she's like the most beautiful girl in the world and my feelings are real, I knw I wouldn't do anything to hurt her. .I just need help on how to gain her trust. .please ur answers and comments are appreciated.

You asked a girl out for 6 years?
Adonbilivit!!!

Is Fashola aware that the inhabitants of Yabaleft are roaming about the streets with 10MB daily data quite accessible to them?

prettyprettywow: Then you people should go and leave us alone with Govt. Nobody is forcing you to stay with the Govt owned hospitals. Haba! Better still, you can migrate to US, UK, or Canda make we hear word

Your bickering and animosity won't help the system nor help your life.
I believe in life, if you aren't satisfied with what you're doing, leave it, go get trained and join the team you want to be like!
You don't need to fight and attempt bringing down the entire sector because you wish to be treated like the other professionals.

prettyprettywow: Go and rest jare. all the medical and health sciences students pay the same school fees in Govt owned universities. Haba!! don't start spreading lies. let there be relativity in university tuition!!!!

You're still wrong dear!
I for a person started training in Health Sciences before I left and opted to study Medicine. We never paid the same fees!
There's relativity in school fees inall Nigerian universities I know of!

adebriana: @ OP,u can't compare d salaries of health workers in nigeria with their foreign counterparts cos the systems are different...in the Us for example medical doctors spend @ least 12 yrs in school compared to d 6 yrs education in Nigeria and spend much more cash dan those in Nigerian Med schools and the standard of living in the US is higher than that in Nigeria...so there's no need for comparison

You're wrong dear.
12 years in training in the USA is inclusive of specialist training in some fields. 6 years in training in Nigeria is just basic medical training, specialist training adds it up to almost the same as that of USA.
Don't embellish facts to make a point!

prettyprettywow: but agree that those are the salaries of consultants that you are comparing to an entry level nurse. That resident doctors earn as little as 45k in US unlike here in Nigeria that they want to earn more than their employers. That it takes them years to pay the student loan + interest. That they also pay heavy malpractice insurance unlike nurses. So all those are considered when issues about salaries are handled in US. here, Drs go to school wnd pay same fee with others, yet they want to earn like US Drs .

Please which Nigerian university did you attend where you paid the same fees with a medical student?
Go back and check, there's no where that medical school cost the same as other tertiary institutions.
And the fact that we don't operate a loan system doesn't mean people didn't work out their salvation trying to get trained in medical school!

Ochek: NMA STRIKE, THE NURSES' PERSPECTIVE. Let the comments pour...

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

Historically, the first documented envy-ridden feud between Nurses and Doctors was during the Crimean War (1853-1856), when Florence Nightingale was commissioned to go to Scutari barracks in order to join military doctor...s to combat the high mortality rate in the military hospitals. The doctors, feeling threatened, resisted the help of Nightingale and her Nurses until they became overwhelmed with casualties and succumbed to reality.

This pattern of doctors being threatened by the educated and empowered Nurse has continued to plague the working relationship in the healthcare system till today. I am therefore not surprised as the current situation is not peculiar to Nigeria.

The war between Nurse Practitioners and Doctors is still on even in the country with the supposedly most advanced nursing practice in the world, USA. However, it is being done using tact, legislative lobbying and empirical evidence. In Nigeria, professional civility and self respect has been thrown to the winds as some Nigerian doctors handle this situation in an appalling manner, using a combination of verbal brawl, comical assertions and frustrated rants. This betrays their characteristic ego-servicing claims of being the most knowledgeable member of the healthcare team.

I have been silent about the ongoing row between Doctors and other health professionals since its beginning. While my colleagues and friends from other health professions have continued to spit fire and brimstone deriding the doctors, my social media walls have been squeaky clean, devoid of such tirades. This is not because of lack of professional patriotism or inability to lay the bricks of words to construct a towering harangue about the issue. But, due to many reasons – personal, interpersonal and professional, I have kept my cool and refused to give in to cheap ineffective social media rants. However, when someone like the author of this article publicly displays crass ignorance of the nursing profession through a charisma-laden, highly bombastic but grossly information-deficient and intellectually-flawed article like this; I feel
forced to talk, better still, write.
READ: Ayokunle Ayk Fowosire: NMA Strike: Consultant, My Foot!

The incessant strikes in the health sector have rendered the system moribund over the years. The ongoing feud has further grounded the ailing system. This article is not meant to expatiate and justify the (absolutely justifiable!) position of nurses and other health professionals (that is reserved for another day), but to answer Mr Fowosire’s beautifully-written article, an A-rated effort in sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. As much as I am highly disconcerted and extremely irritated reading Mr Fowosire’s article, I will try not to walk the dishonourable path of name calling. Therefore, in order to answer his pathetic rants, I do not intend to join issues with him or stoop low to trade banters, but this article will address the misrepresentation of facts presented by the previous writer.

On this background I can begin to address Mr Fowosire’s points. Firstly, the author’s effrontery to undermine the knowledge base of graduate nurses in basic medical science courses is a display of nescience. I still remembered that when I was in second year in the university, we attended the same lectures and wrote same exams for Reproductive and Digestive physiology and Neuroanatomy courses with third year physiology and Biochemistry students. Are doctors not being taught physiology and Biochemistry by graduate physiologists and Biochemists? Maybe a graduate nurse can now boast that s/he was taught in the same class with your teacher. Also in our third year, we were taught pathology with the same note used for part four Medical student. My transcript still says I scored 77% on the same Histo and chemical pathology MCQ given to part four Medical students. How did I know this? We used part four medical students’ past MCQ questions to prepare for
exams.

I will not forget to let you know that as a part 4 undergrad, I led Nursing department team to victory over senior part 6 medical students’ team in an interdepartmental debate on bothering national and international health issues; not to talk of the fact that we attended the same lectures with medical student colleagues during first year in the university and some of us clearly surpassed most of them in first year academic performance. And this is not as a result of ‘la cram la pour’ as you said, because the consistency I, specifically and many of my colleagues have shown in academic and intellectual performance over the years could not have come by that. In addition, this ironing of facts should not be misconstrued for vain ego aggrandisement but to let Mr Fowosire, many other doctors like him and the general public know that many
Nurses (especially degree holders) did not do nursing because they are academically-impaired but because of their love for the profession and some because of the socio-political environment of securing admissions into University in Nigeria.

The question of who should lead the healthcare team has also been a long-standing one. While many developed countries have undergone the health management structure-shift from vertically structured systems to a matrix structure, Mr Fowosire and many Nigerian doctors like him still live in the dark ages clamouring for ‘oga- omo ise’ relationship within the healthcare team. They want the Medical doctor to be even the director of Hospital security. This is inane absurdity. The National Health Service UK has been named as the best performing national health system in the world many times. The NHS and Hospitals in the UK are being managed by managers who are recruited through the NHS management trainee scheme. These trainees come from myriads of field, from geography to history, what matters in their recruitment is intelligence and ability to provide creative solutions to health system problems. These are recruited into the management cadre and grow through the ranks mastering the dynamics of the health system until reaching the highest managerial post of the hospitals and NHS trusts. Space will fail me to talk about the US, Canada, Sweden and so on. However, a six hours flight down south to Nigeria, we have the best medical professors and consultants
wasting human resource by sitting down romanticising administration as CMDs, instead of taking care of the patients they claim to own. A predilection fuelled by the position-consciousness, power-hungry-proclivity, greed and corruption eating the fabrics of our society.

It is on ‘debatable‘ record that the best ever Minister for Health in Nigeria in performance was an economist not a Medical Doctor, Prof Eyitayo Lambo. The reason for that is not surprising, it is just common sense. A simple google-oracle consultation will show all his achievements as the longest serving Minister for Health in Nigeria. I will like to highlight that majority of my colleagues in graduating class 2012, Master in Health Planning and Management, University of Maiduguri, were seasoned consultants in different medical and surgical speciality from all over Northern Nigeria. However, I finished in top three out of the over forty six members of the class. Therefore, if the CMD position is filled based on performance and best management knowledge, skill and expertise, why should I not be lined up for consideration for such alongside my classmate medical consultants? Nevertheless, going by the meaning of CMD (Chief Medical Director), the inherent nominalistic connotation in this position is the reason why the doctors have made the position their exclusive preserve; a domain they plan to extend to commissioner for health and Minister for health positions too. As a responsible professional, in my personal opinion (which many of my colleagues may differ with) it will be clearly unreasonable to make a nurse the chief medical director. Notwithstanding, my proposition has always been, ‘why do we need a CMD if we have a CMAC?’ Therefore, I think the name CMD should be ditched and changed to favour international best practices. I think something like Chief Executive Officer or Chief Operating Officer as used in developed world should be adopted. This de-clutters the name and removes any exclusive preserve that medical doctors may lay hold on.

In trying to disparage and clarify Mr Fowosire’s embellished bombastic views of the superiority of the doctor over other health professionals, I mentioned my previous consultant classmates who I respect for their professional achievements in their field. I do not in any way use this to mean that I know what the consultants know about medicine, but I bet the consultants do not know what I know about nursing too. You do not compare grapes to mango. There is no basis for such. They are two different fruits. However, in your five-a-day dietary plan, you need to have both; one cannot replace another.
On this premise, if the dictionary meaning of the term consultant, which has been selfishly usurped by doctors, is ‘a specialist’; then, why should a nurse, pharmacist or Laboratory Scientist not be called a consultant in their field if they have gathered enough knowledge, skill and pompetency to attain such specialised level. An expert who gives advice on business even if he has never managed one single start-up is called a business consultant. This is the case in many other professions and vocations. Why will doctors refuse to face their own effectiveness in their profession? Why are they trying so hard to bar other professions from progressing?

The ludicrous height of Mr Fowosire’s display of crassude was the un- informed assertion that there are no male midwives in Nigeria. There is
nothing like tradition in an Evidence-driven age and there is nothing like Midwifery being the exclusive domains of female nurses. I am a male midwife registered and licensed to practice by the Nursing and Midwifery Council of Nigeria. Male midwives have been produced and registered in Nigeriita since 2007 and I was one of the early set of male midwives to be registered in the country in 2009. I am proud to be who I am and I am striving to be the best at what I do. I only wonder where Mr Fowosire is undergoing his medical education if he is boldly casting such un-informed aspersion about Nigerian Nursing in 2014. Your stereotyped labelling of all male nurses as wanting to become a doctor can be forgiven as another symptom of your ‘hypo-exposure-induced myopia’.

Furthermore, Mr Fowosire tried to lark about, tinkering with words. He used a comparison of ‘doctored’ and ‘nursed’ as a contextual basis to make an assertion that we live in a society clouded by vanity. What a comedy? What a good understanding of English language? Nevertheless, I will ask, ‘why do we nurse children and not doctor them?’ ‘Why do we nurse ambitions…?’ ‘Why do we nurse wounds and pain…?’ I guess ‘nurse’ is not a bad verb after all; but why does the verb- ‘doctor’ sound like someone falsified claims, adulterated the original and committed fraud. This is exactly what the doctors in Nigeria are currently doing raising unfounded propaganda and spreading intentional half-truths and falsified claims about the essence of the ambitions of the other health professionals, an archetype of fraud.

Mr Fowosire, your fear and concern for the society and posterity in this issue is highly unnecessary and totally misplaced. Empirical evidence has it that Nurse-Led Units are making the difference in patient’s life in the developed world. In the UK, a Nurse led unit, Barking Community Hospital (Yes a nurse- led hospital) close by my apartment has MRI machine. How many Professor of Medicine-Led teaching hospitals in Nigeria have that? That is what you should be concerned about, the fact that our hospitals are ill-equipped for 21st century medical practice. What you should be getting concerned about is the fact that Community Health Extension Workers (CHEWs) are consulting at Paediatric Out-patient departments in State Owned supposed Specialist Hospitals in Nigeria. The fact that after government spend lots of money to train a doctor (common in Northern Nigeria) till he becomes a consultant in a rare speciality then he goes to sit in the office as a CMD while all the money
spent and specialist knowledge gained wastes. What you should be concerned about is the jungle medicine still being practiced in Nigerian teaching hospitals and many other cases of malpractice and negligence (documented by Olatunji Ololade in the Nation of 5th April, 2008), where doctors spent one month diagnosing a brain tumour as a sinusitis problem. And, most of all you should be very concerned about the fact that, after spending nine years for a six years course, you still have your part six MBBS exams to write. Until you become a fully certified medical doctor, your contributions in this debate are rather unwelcomed.

- Oladayo Afolabi is a trained Nurse-Midwife Researcher, Health Management
Consultant and Idea Driver for MACHE initiative Nigeria. He is currently
studying M.Sc. at London Metropolitan University on Dr. Muritala Muhammed
Postgraduate Scholarship. Twitter handle @deeone6603

Complete Bullshit!

sholasholala: Point 1. Noted

BUT it is better to be friend zoned than to be treated like dirt by a lady. If you have feelings for her and she decides to make you her friend, you are better than the guy who has feelings for her but gets humiliated, insulted and embarrassed by her. At least you are still a part of her life.

Friendzone and being treated as shit is all the same!
Only difference is that the shit guy tends to learn his lessons earlier.
Solution to both= Leave that girl and get a life!

Abeg who knows when this Mama Iyabo go open?
I wan buy white rice abeg!

Just 2 months? ??
Keep watching till like 2 years!

Andyblaze:


my current girlfriend for over 2 weeks now, things have been going on well and we were beginning to think of getting engaged until we both met her mum.

When i told her of my religion she wasnt comfortable anymore, but as an educated and wealthy lady she called me privately rather than bash me in her daughter's presence and offered me 200 thousand naira to leave her daughter as she doesn't think her family will be comfortable with my religion.

They are muslims, ayam christian
Should i accept the money of fight for my love

please ayam serious here.
I want mature response as u can see ayam maturing these days.




#BITG

What are you still waiting for?

It's simple, rephrase the question and if you can, use grammar to confuse her!
She'll say yes unknowingly!

shelter4luving: Is like out of all the things in the world increasing, the only thing depreciating is LOVE.
when i was a little girl, there's this picture of men i had in my head. i see them as people that are strong, hardworking, brave and people that can defend and protect women. probably all these qualities was meant to be them ,but today, it's difficult to see men with these attribute. what i see now is, different from what i thought.
1. now some men are confidence and bold to publicly tell people how their wife is the bread winner of the family. i even hear this during testimonies in church. oh sorry to say this. if she's the bread winner, please don't expect total respect all the time.
2. Is like all men now want a working, independent woman. so the woman wouldn't depend on them. forgetting that every woman love to depend on his man even if she have the whole money in the world. if a woman cant depend on you, of what use are you to her?
3. a lot of men can actually lie, pretend to love a rich lady just for the sake of her money or fame. that's why you keep seeing advert: ' i want a sugar mummy who can pay' it's disappointing.
4. most men don't even care nor appreciate how the woman manage her time to take care of the children, and still rush home from work to prepare food for the family. rather they keep going around forming Baddest Boy Ever liveth. chasing other ladies and don't even consider how the woman feels. Mr. man, are you not suppose to protect that woman instead of giving her pains and making her cry?
Men, please what's up with you?
if you continue this way, our little boys wouldn't learn how to be real men.
please arise and be the real man you were created to be.

Seems OP has got the wrong man! No offense though.
Nice advise from you!

bumfem: @DrObum ....... I commend the effort u invested in writing this lot. Unfortunately I am so disappointed because you are very very bias. I wonder how you can still sleep well having posted these wreckage of falsehood to the public without blinking an eye.

Where is your conscience man?

My conscience is satisfied that I've done a good job!
Facts can't be embellished and the public needs to know the truth.
We've kept quiet for a long time and some funny peeps think it's an avenue to bring down the whole health sector.

Lordabas: Yess it works! I was a victim..
My ex-girlfriend Ekaette tie my destiny for stick with red cloth. If no be 4 my mama pastor wey save me

Great work OP!

mintyx: Piece of crap from a biased mind! Who lied to Doctors that they are at the heart or the most importantant in patient care? When they keep spewing all these lies, you'd actually think some of them really care about thier patients.

Again why would ur lame brains think that its only you folks that understand or know medicine wholly?

When a Lab scientist does a PCV for instance and issue out a result, do you guys for a second think that he doesnt know factors that can cause a raised, low or normal PCV?

When a pharmacist manufactures a drug and tells u skank head how many dosage you'd use to effect a cure, u term him a support staff huh?

God is watching you all and he has heard the cries of His oppressed children in which you guys have been trying to annihiliate all ds while.

But get this into your heads, the post of minster of health and other heads are purely administrative roles and should be opend to all so you should get afraid cos very soon, you would start getting directives from the so called "support staff".. lmfao

You've simply made no point!
Was expecting a counter argument from you but rather you are just throwing up dust and ignorant rants.
Get facts and then return for an argument!

You can't hide nor suppress history! By banning that movie, they unknowingly gave it a bigger publicity and people are now salivating to catch a glimpse of the movie!
Well done Adichie!

Is this applicable to our local setting?

Cool idea OP!