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petra1:
There is this general belief that anyone who dies by suicide will go to hell. Cam anyone throw light on this ideology. Is it based on scriptures? Any referenceses ?

Thou shalt not kill!

Even thine own self for ye are owned and do not own thyself.

chiedu7:
The first fruit law was part of the law of righteousness.

When Jesus died our righteousness is no more what we do, but given to us by faith..

Why didnt you say righteousness died also, therefore people can live in unrighteosness, since Law and many things died with Christ?

Awon Law breakers wishing away The Law because they are afraid of it because they are guilty.

jmoore:
First fruits na scam.
Are you praticising Judaism or Christianity?

Why are you not sacrificing animals to God?

When you don't know your bible, the pulpit robbers will rob you.

Judaism is not God Followership but Judah Followership.

Moses laid down God Followership. Christ is also God Followership, so the are one and the same.

So stop being covetous and envious of the riches of sinners and since you are already sinning yourself then you can open your own church and collect tithes like them.

Lonestar124:
Don't mind they don't know some undeciphered miracles can demystify someone spiritual stances...

Actually, it is that they know but their pain here is because an atheists has seen one has openly confessed it.

For they know we tell them that God is good and that even they themselves have received miracles and blessings from Him even though it is scarce but they lie and deny it.

But as the op has confessed this Truth, the confession pains them especially as maybe the last time a miracle happened to them was sknce 2012, so they are also racked with pain of jealousy since they can not even hope for a miracle.

So, they are jealous of all who have miracles and can have miracles which.is why they are angry like a wolf with a thorn in its anus biting and abusing everyone who is not in pain and suffering as they are.

KnownUnknown:
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
- Denis Diderot

How can you take the money you earned by working and just go hand it off to a man just because he calls himself a cleric?

Its not your money.so why does it pain you so much?

guobe:
It is the start of a new year and most Christians do practice the act of fresh fruits whereby your first salary in the year or fresh profit of business, first money of your new marriage etc is given to the church.
In this harsh agbado economy in Nigeria,is it possible to practice the act of giving first fruits.

Its always been very difficult to do and the economy has always been harsh every period of time a person

But i do not understand; rather than read, people are listening to greedy covetfull fools?

Then they wonder why God never hears nor answers and after that they become even more foolish by becoming atheist.

God is very very Good and He did not ask anyone to give their whole fruits/whole salary only just 15% of their salary o.

And even at that, this does not guarantee you will prosper and that God would answer you.

If that is what you think and wish, as far as Sweden is from south Africa is how far you are from God ever answering you.

See how devil children (atheists) dey vex!

hopefulLandlord:
I'm an antitheist and my bar for believing in "god" is extremely high, so high that if this same thing happened to me I'd assume he had insider information about the goods or maybe my sister did and used the pastor as a way to make me start believing in her god

It would take a totally unexplainable event not an "unlikely" event for me to change my stand like a beheaded person coming back to life through prayer or an amputee regrowing his/her limbs

The pastor is not your clearing agent and he.needs your bill of lading to know where any container is. And secondly, if your sister knew, then she would have helped you directly, so you are just being unreasonable and always commiting the fallacy of Impossible Expectations.

Correction! They edit their own copies of the bible. They do not edit the bible.

TayehJiboluwa:
...Remember in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, but the bible says there was darkness upon the surface of the earth that God created, darkness out of where, where did the darkness come from?

What you need to understand is darkness and light existed from the beginning, so is good and evil. It is not an invention of mankind nor was it started by Satan himself. Light and darkness, evil and good predates Satan.

God allowed light and darkness, evil and good to exist together from the beginning because it is what creates balance and perfection.

This is very correct.

TayehJiboluwa:
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Without Darkness, light wouldn't exist, without good evil wouldn't exist...

Isaiah60:19/Revelation 22:5 shows God now laying a Light forever world. Which means no more darkness.

So, another proof that God is The LawMaker, changeing and setting The Laws we see and we operate under.

And another proof that God is All Mighty and should be greatly revered for no thing is impossible with Him; for existence and state of things are determined by His Hands. Thus we see here that contrary to what we know, God can always change and alter them for we see that He makes light to exist without darkness in the new world to come.

TayehJiboluwa:
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WHY AND HOW SATAN FELL
Satan fell because he was yet to learn about light and darkness, good and evil, right and wrong, he hasn't gained the ultimate knowledge or understanding, yet he wanted to be like God.

"For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." (Isaiah 14:13-15 KJV)...

Wrong!

Knowing good and evil is not learning good and evil.

As you are walking now, are you.learning how to walk? No! You already know how to walk.
So also did Satan know that which was good to do as God, The Law has already set and commanded all to do as different from the evil which they also know, is prohibited from being done by anyone as also Commanded.

Thus, as we can see, no baby can commit treason or coup like trying to raise himself to be the daddy of the house as the Isaiah 14:13 you cited shows.

Treason is a an off fence/sin only committed and perpetrated by a person/persons who know which in Law is called "mens rea".

And the Isaiah14 shows us Satan's mens rea (maybe in this case latin may call it "spirit rea" since satan is spiritly.)

FxMasterz:
Did you read the article in full?

He explained that Satan is not the enemy really, but instead, Evil and Darkness which preceded Satan are the real enemies. He established that they have the power to take over an individual if the person does not resist them. Satan was their victim. He has been taken over and has now become a conduit for their operations. He himself has lost control of himself. Evil and Darkness are in control of him. Hence, Satan isn't the real enemy. He doesn't even have to be there before hunan beings commit evil against one another.

To a great extent, I think the OP is correct. Especially when I explore this line of thought in the light of what I already know about the activities of wickedness.

Oh! Thanks for the correction. The header, iits opening lines and disjointedness ticked me off.

But in the light of his intention, i praise his good and reasonable attempt at properly investigating the issue even though there are some errors in it, which i will now addresss.

Lucifyre:
😆
The irony of this waffle considering all the brutal killings and more in your bible. Lol!

What would you prefer Army/Police to do rescue you from kidnappers and bandits who have murderered your family and friends and have burnt down your house and farms and village?

LagosSuperStar:
Religion tells us the devil is powerful and real. So powerful he had an army who challenged God.
If someone has so much power to the extent of challenging injustice and inequality in heaven, what will he need humans for?

Humans are frail and their number of years are short. What will a devil need your death or life for. Human life is perhaps the best example of "everything ephemeral "

And you are proving that fallibility of himans because the proper way to challenge any "injustice and inequality" is to call for a court to be raised up while openly showing everywhere the injustice and inequality you claim to have exactly like these people have done https://www.nairaland.com/7968292/female-army-officer-ogunleye-ruth#127911220

https://www.nairaland.com/2817969/cry-injustice-first-order#41250012

And at no time did satan do this so clearly this is a case of banditry, armed.robbery and treason.

LagosSuperStar:
Humans are frail and their number of years are short. What will a devil need your death or life for. Human life is perhaps the best example of "everything ephemeral "

And you further prove your fallible because he is even the same reason why your years are short but you choose to ignore it.

Image123:
But you think so most. Is placebo effect likely God, you say it's impossible.

Oh oooh! You catch am well well.

Typical Atheists double standard.

What is good for the gander the goose miust be stopped from having it.

Image123:
But you think so most. Is placebo effect likely God, you say it's impossible.

Oh oooh!

Typical Atheists double standard.

What is good for the gander the goose miust be stopped from having it.

Calitoscassius:
I don't think you wanna fork my butt, infact, i know you wanna fork my ass, lick my ass and eat my dick.

More proof that atheists are dirty dogs showing their evil narcissistic selfs

LordReed:
Thread counter on the thread you refused to name. Bwahahahahahaha!

See No Road! Na why you dey repeat yourself. Hahahahahahahaha .

LordReed:
Which people saw it, state their names. Bwahahahahaha!

The number of views on the thread counter don already answer you lord of LiesReed Nyahahahahahahahahaha. No Road despite your great desperaaaaaation! Gwahahahahahaha. No Road Satan.

Broveens42:
You said lies must always be used by the devil while god uses it as a defence.
Now mr. Context crammer, how is this not put into category; necessary and unnecessary?

Why are you forcing yourself to be another character of lies in my topic

Your post is not on "necessary/unnecessary lies" but on finding out the difference between when satan uses lies and the occasion when God used it.

Which is what i have addressed and i did not say anything about "necessary/unnecessary.

So, you committed the fall of changing my words (Rule 3 Thou shalt not twist or change your opponents words)

So clearly, you have no reasonable counter.

kimco:
I just realized who I am chatting with. I will end it here thank You.

Because you want to sleep peacefully in the bubble of lies and illusions you have created for yourself.

But the bottomline is that there is no reasonable and valid basis for anybody to be an antiGod and antichrist aka atheist.

LordReed:
The thread you can't quote or mention the name of? Sure buddy. Bwahahahahaha!

Who needs to quote threads when people have already seen the threads and will always see them when they come up? .Hahahahahahahaha. No Road lordlyinReed. Gwahahahahaha

FRANCISTOWN:
I'll inject Diclofenac when I wake and the back ache will disappear

Till you wake up oneday and can't get up cos the Dic poison aint working but has now given.you spinal cancer.

But anyway, your back, your pain.

FRANCISTOWN:
The same way your Jesus was invented in the early Anno Christum. And your crusaders helped campaign it.

Wrong! The whole world knows everything invented by man but only a few mad devils like you are quite mad enough to believe such a clear desperate lie.

First it was God does not exist. And when that did not work then big bang/evolution. When thatstilldid not work then.they desperately created this lie of Roman crusaders.

Devils just moving from one lie to.another, whereas Truth is constant as the bible has stayed constant through generations back.to back So, you lie!

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who has seen these characters in movies or in comics talks about them...

And this is where you fall for these uncounted people have not had any contact with God preachers yet they know God and have a name they call Him in their language

So, you lie like all atheists and devils, do and you have no valid argument.

FRANCISTOWN:
Of course, was a catholic.
Also was a member of several pentecostal churches.
It's even better to kneel before statutes. Instead of kneeling before something that doesn't exist. It's just like kneeling before yourself 🤣🤣🤣

Yet you left kneeling under statues to live on no thingness like yourself! Anyway, your bed, your back ache.

Broveens42:
He asked a very useless question. ..

Off point!

Thanks for confirming that he asked, Antichrist. Obviously you atheists do not know how to argue.

Broveens42:
Are you not going to man up to your post, where you clearly categorized lies as necessary and unnecessary ?

Are you also going to lie about this ?

Antichrist and their twisting lies like lordReed when they cannot counter.

What's it called when you're debating someone and they twist around your words and reply to a point you didn't make?

There are 2 errors in such arguments to be studied. The first error occurs when someone changes the words or terminology in your Standing Point. That is a violation of Rule #3, The Standpoint Rule.

3 The Standpoint Rule

A person's analysis and critique of another's standpoint must relate to the standing point that was introduced a an original argument.

No where did i categorized lies as necessary and unnecessary which is a proof that atheists minds are contorted and do not work properly.

Lawag3:
You left the moral of the story to criticize the story itself.

This is still how atheists and fake pastors and scam education contort their evil messages and i found a principle of Law which states that "A thing is only good if every element of it, is good"!

Lawag3:
The person granting pardon is God and the prison isn't hell or what you think the prison is sin. At a point you and I were in that prison of sin we're save by the grace and mercy of God not because of our own strength and intelligence.

As long as that prison is not hell then there is no Pardon from God. For God's Prison is hell (or for jw, hellfire) which only opens to man and Satan and fallen angels AFTER their Day in God's Court (Judgment Day). And there is no Pardon there as Mathew 25:46 clearly tells us.

So, you must be talking about Satan's prison/Satan's household were Satan is known to forcefully take and hold people like atheists do (which is why I called them Satan)

Therefore, this is God rescuing people from their captivity.

But however, we know that not everyone wishes to be rescued nor would like to be rescued exactly as atheists have severally declared. And these are members of Satan's household and family.

Thus, God would most likely never want to rescue these ones for they are willing followers of Satan and.love satan and God respects peoples consents. So no salvation for these.

That is why the bible is Speaking to only those who hate Satan and evil and are trying to flee from him and who want to be saved. Which.is why the bible Said "He that will, let him take of the water of life freely” Rev. 22:17. Same for John 7:17 and other scripture.

So as a person who wants to pass his exam must pay attention in class and take proper notes and read them, so also do those who want to be saved must take the very steps that lead to being saved.

Thus, if a thief does not like to be called a "thief, then the proper thing is for him to stop stealing.

Calitoscassius:
I think you wanna fork my butt.

More proof that you atheists are gutter dirty homosexuals who have nothing good to say but to spread evils and show their evil narcissistic selfs as proven by the fact that you have driven everyone away from the thread with your mad smelly maggot eaten yansh!

kimco:
The Chris that I see I do not believe. Is it the Jesus I have not seen before that I should believe? When I have seen or not seen every claim must be subjected to scrutiny and evidenced beyond reasonable doubt.

Understandably. But scrutiny involves the use of sight and knowledge. Thus, if these things truly work in you THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN that every major difference that must be in such a Supernatural Person is in Jesus which no man either before Him or after Him has.

So your reasonable doubt is dispensed which is why you do not have any reasonable or valid question or comment to put down.

Thus, the only thing remaining is your personal guilt and wish fueled biased under Him which is what is making you lie that you do not believe in Him because every reasonable person understands that murderers, thieves and liars can never like Law and policemen and Judges.

kimco:
Also claims are not proof. The Bible is not proof, it's a claim. And the claims it made are not exclusive to it. I know you think the Bible is proof the only Godly book that exists but it's not...it's not even godly.

Off point! Change of Post!

Broveens42:
Spare us the long story and say
Lies are divided into two: necessary lies and unnecessary lies.

What a submission
More differences please

Antichrist, clearly you do not have any counter because you thought this twist was impossible to explain

For people already know.that lies are simply weapons usable by any party in War.

Broveens42:
Where in my submission did I say jesus didn't come in flesh?
Bilble student for mouth

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it .

He asked if you are antichrist and not whether Jesus did not come in the flesh, so off point And thanks for showing that you are a Satanist and antichrist.

Westerhoffe:
[b]You might think you're reasonable with this, but you ain't....

He knows he is a mad person