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Calitoscassius:
No one is speaking stupidity, you just don't want to hear the truth, you want everyone to swallow all that fairy bible tales without questioning them. If anyone is stupid that would be you.

All you know is to insult and call people names, you cannot control your stupidity.

No one called you or that Muslim to come and swallow anything and askng stupid questions is not a question normal people ask. So keep your bias no one called you.

chieveboy:
Where is the twisting? The Bible was very clear and direct "Judge Not!...".

You transgressed..

Is it shocking that Satan worshippers like you Lie in defence of their twisting brother?

John 7:24/ Ephesians 5:11-12 are also in the bible and they were very clear and direct .Saying expose evil and judge righteously.

THIS JUDGMENT MATTER DEY PAIN DEVIL PEOPLE WELL WELL!

Calitoscassius:
All these stale so call bible shit and God. If people really did what bible said no one would function physically or otherwise in their daily lives. All human woud be like zombies doing what they are told or controlled by they so called God and bible.

So in law abiding countries like Benin and Ghana and Norway the humans there do not function well and are zombies?

What a fallacy!

Lawag3:
You do not expose you insult and call people name.

I have already explained that we all call a thief, caught stealing "a thief, so it is the thief who gives himself a bad name.

Lawag3:
You're saved through grace it wasn't by your power not because you were smart to accept Jesus.

This is an illustration

A powerful man went to a prison cell were the worst of criminals are kept and pardoned some of them. The pardoned criminals were happy and thankful, they also promised not to go back a life of crime. One day one of the freed prisoner came back to the prison to visit a friend on his way to the visiting room one of the inmates in one of the cells pulled out his cloth. This formal inmate who was pardoned got angry and started insulting the prisoner called him names like you're a thief a murderer that's why you are here he went on to insults the other inmates.

Now sir what did you get out of this story?

I would say off point! But to patronize you, i would address this.

1) The only person who has a right to grant a pardon to anyone in prison, is the owner of the prison. Dangote or the sultan of sokoto can't grant pardon to anyone in prison.

2) And if you are talking about God, God is so so good that no innocent person is ever in His Prison, and before entering His Prison, You must go to His Court. (Judgment Day)

And Judgment Day is still yet to come, so no pardon.

And secondly, He has told us that there is no pardon in His Prison. Mathew 25:46 so your point is already DOA!

So, exactly how we catch thieves and may not hand them to the police and courts for inprisonment but we call them thieves, ole ole, thief thief, or in the case of prostitutes we say ashawo, woman wrapper, until they change, is all I have done and no one has ever called it wrong.

So this must mean that you are complaining because you yourself are a thief which automatically means your complaint is invalid.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't worth my response!

You never have a valid response. That is what happens when you lie.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't worth my response!

You never have a valid response. That is what happens when you lie.

Calitoscassius:
God? Which God? Have you ever seen that man unu call God? Who invented marriage? Where did marriage come from? Can you tell me the history of marrage?

Abeg leave your madness.for street. Everybody know God and don see Am or feel Am and we know say me Him make nature. And nature show say Adam male and female na dem start marriage.

Abeg if you no dey normal and reasonable no reply me

rdsco:
No be you go tell me wetin I go do!

E no call ya name

AbuTwins:
I don't know why Christians get married!

Christ no marry na!

How can you be holy when having sex?

Why do Muslims speak stupidly almost all the time?

Wilgrea7:
You couldn't have picked a worse source to turn to. When searching for the existence of a god/gods, religious texts are about as evidence as Harry potter books are for Harry Potter...

See how you have jumped on a baby christian/churcgoer whereas we have given you evidences outside the bible and you are yet to give any valid rebuttal.

Anyway, we understand because "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH"

Necrophagia:
Do the needful fággot

See you not the Satanist? Come and murder me directly, yansh chooker, hellfire roast.

ReacherSaidNoth:
Once you die, that is the end of your story. There is no imaginary paradise where you have to worship an insecure egomaniac forever, why would you even want that in the first place? There is also no everlasting torture to be scared of, if there was, the only person deserving of it is the needy imaginary psycho (Yahweh) who can't stand people not buying his crap.

Yet we see how most dying people are very worried as as they die in agony and torment while another set die with smiles on their faces very much happy to leave you behind.

You are the one deluding yourself and who needs to delude himself as you aready know that when you die, you are going straight to hellfire as you already know that no one can reasonably allow a horrible person like you into a very very good place (paradise)

So, this is you just being jealous and in pain because you already know that you can never have paradise, so you need to delude yourself and wish all these things away.

Necrophagia:
Just kys fággot

Come murder me roasting homo

AntiChristian:


Jesus be Devil?

10) Thou must not lie and twist your opponents words and meanings. Typical lordReed's manner of argument when he sees he is losing.

Quora
What's it called when you're debating someone and they twist around your words and reply to a point you didn't make

Marry Perry
"I didn't know there was a name for this, but it's a classic strategy used by persons with narcissistic personality disorder in order to unsettle and dominate you and make you feel stupid so they can “win” the argument"

Kim Huli-Feltz
The word is deflecting.

de·flect

/dəˈflekt/

verb

gerund or present participle: deflecting

cause (something) to change direction by interposing something; turn aside from a straight course. It’s like ‘smoke & mirrors or yelling ““look over there!” Directing attention to the side issue while the main issue is being ignored- because the focus has been changed. The classic Wizard of Oz syndrome - ““pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain”…… lordReed's version is a very very wicked type of deflecting.

Miles N. Fowler
You are describing someone putting words in your mouth. This often takes the form of a straw man argument where someone says you said something that you didn’t say and then criticizes their characterization - or even caricature - of your position.

If you are taking a position based on one line of argument, an opponent might cite a completely different supporting argument for your position even though you never used that argument. They then point out the fallacy of this other argument and try to tar you with using a supporting argument you never used. This particular twisted attack is technically called argumentum ad logicam.

SEE IT, TWISTED ATTACK!

John Peter Germaat
What's it called when you're debating someone and they twist around your words and reply to a point you didn't make?
It is possible you are dealing with a sociopathic manipulator.(SEE WHY I CALL YOU A DEVIL/SATAN?)

If the debates you are speaking of occur in your personal life, you may want to think carefully about this relationship. (I PITY YOUR WIFE AND CHILDREN AND EMPLOYEES IF ANY. I Shudder)

AND BRUCE R.BAIN HAS MADE MY WHOLE CASE AGAINST DEVILREED. hehehehehehe

What's it called when you're debating someone and they twist around your words and reply to a point you didn't make?

There are 2 errors in such arguments to be studied. The first error occurs when someone changes the words or terminology in your Standing Point. That is a violation of Rule #3, The Standpoint Rule.

1 The Freedom Rule

Claimant and Challenger must allow each other

to advance a standing point, and must not prevent

the other from challenging any standpoint.

2 The Burden of Proof Rule

If asked by the other person to defend a standin point

the other person is obligated to offer a defense and

to substantiate claims with reasons or evidences as

appropriate.

3 The Standpoint Rule

A person's analysis and critique of another's standpoint
must relate to the standing point that was introduced as

an original argument.

4 The Relevance Rule

A person can only defend a standing point by

offering claims relating to that standing point.

5 The Unexpressed Premise Rule / Hidden Premise Rule

Let me rest here! E sweet me well well say devil dey complain hahahahahahaha.

Lawag3:
Back up what you said with Bible verses let me check something

Already did it before today

https://www.nairaland.com/7519775/only-devils-say-judge-not#119924481

Exposing Evil
Fritz Chery
Dec 20, 2022 (with amendments)

It absolutely saddens and disgusts me the amount of people who claim Christianity because they go to a place called church and read the Bible.

Most people who call themselves Christians will be thrown into hell for they’re not of God and especially when someone rebukes them they say, “thou shall not judge.”

First, that verse is talking about hypocritical judging.

Secondly, if you live a continuous sinful lifestyle you’re not a Christian.

I’ve even heard someone say, “I don’t care if she is a satanist don’t judge anyone” I literally almost caught a heart attack.

People don’t like their evil exposed and people don’t like you exposing anyone else so you don’t expose them.

These so-called believers today go against God’s Word and stand up for the devil and even fight against God by condoning and supporting wickedness.

An example of this is the many so-called Church going homosexuality supporters. How can you love what God hates?

How can you love music that blasphemes God?

Isn’t He your Father? How can you go against Him and stand up for Satan?

Except that God is not their Father, therefore, they wrestle against Him.

A Christian hates everything that God hates. Every biblical leader stood up against evil and many even lost their lives for speaking against it.

There is a reason Jesus says true believers will be hated and persecuted.

If you desire to live a God Following life you will be persecuted and there is no way around it.

That is why many fake believers stay quiet whenever an issue requiring them to show and declare their stand and followership of God comes up.

When placed on hot seat they hush up in fear of man.

The Lord Jesus Spoke up, Stephen spoke up, Paul spoke up so we have a right to speak up

We are not be afraid to rebuke others.

If someone is going astray from Christ are we going to be silent so they won’t hate you or are you going to humbly and lovingly say something?

You are not a Christian if you fear the hatred of people!

You are not a Christian if you love the love of people!

A Christian speaks up against all evils and does not care who does not like it.

If we stop exposing evil, rebuking false teachers, and confronting believers we will have more people lost and led astray.

More people will become stupid and believe false teachings. Look at how many people twist “thou shall not judge.”

When you remain quiet then you partake in their wickedness and encourage the doing of evil.

Stop being part of the world, expose it instead and save lives.

The person who truly loves Christ is the one who’s going to stand up for Christ no matter if they lose friends, family, or if the world hates us.

The people who hate Christ are going to read this and grumble.

What does the Bible say?

1. Ephesians 5:11-12 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.

2. Psalm 94:16 Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will stand for me against those who practice iniquity? I answer "I will Lord, I will"!

3. John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Lawag3:
So throwing insults is Rightful judging?

Calling a thief, caught stealing "a thief, is it not a rightfull judgment?

Do you not call your theiving politicians and fake pastors thieves?

Lawag3:
You believe a huge cosmic explosion is enough to create time space and matter in ok..

The explosions in Chernobyl, Iraq, Chechnya and now Ukraine and Gaza has not created antything.

Lasgidi90:
So what happened to 'thou shall not judge or throw stones', or did you skip that when reading the bible

That is for sinners. A thief can't judge a thief nor a politician judge his fellow politician; for they write their own judgment that can be used on them also. That is what God has done. So a thief won't condemn himself nor the politician.

Which is why God commanded us to live right fully, so that we can be free, free even to judge others for we are commanded to judge right fully.

asalimpo:
Samson had woman issues. The hair growing back must have been supernatural,rather than gradual. But even in his death one cant help but wonder at the immensity of his strenght. That building housed about 30 000 ppl! The pillars must have been massive,for a man to pull it down was something. Inhuman strenght bro.

Wrong

God left him so he was on his own in the daily torments of his living hell.

And so his daily prayer was for his hell to end.

And since he knew he had messed up full time, he knew his punishment was eternal so there is no getting out of it.

Thus, his hair grew normally while he prayed for end but the philistiines cut it until God was ready and made them make a mistake and samson used it to end it all.

Lasgidi90:
Coming from a supposed christian, you really have a way with insults and spiteful words. I thought you guys were supposed to be examples to others, instead you go around calling people who do not conform to your beliefs serpents, satan and all other vile words.

It is also our Command to rebuke devils sharply and crush their heads for we do not bear swords in vain.

And it has never been an insult to call a person by his acts e.g. if you behave like a thief then it is right to call you a thief.

Necrophagia:
All hail the dark lord

Exhale Satanas

And all you roast eternally with him forever and ever and ever!

MaxInDHouse:
It's not about winning an argument but letting them know that the concept of a place for the dead to be punished is not scriptural the first church fathers after the death of Christ's apostles don't know how to keep Churchgoers under their control brought the idea and whoever stands up against them back then was tortured to death as a witch.
Please read what happened in the churches during the dark ages on Google.

Serpent, so Deuteronomy 32:22/Mathew 18:9 are products of the dark ages?

Continue deceiving people as your father the Serpent; thank God your father and his beasts and false prophet (I wonder if your brother lordlyingReed would be the one) would soon be revealed and you people's Judgment, come!

MaxInDHouse:
Everyone has an awaiting home in hell (grave) until the day of resurrection.
So seek truth and stop been deluded simply because of emotions!

Serpent pikin! You already know that when people say hell they mean hellfire/lake of fire. But if course you are the son of lies, so LordReed pretencious lying twisting is expected

LordReed:
If I ask you to quote where I lied now you will start fumbling. Oya quote where I lied let's see you dance. Bwahahahahaha!

Why would I requote your lies when I have already quoted them for all to see, lordLiar? Even now, you lie! Hahahahahahaha

MaxInDHouse:
Noah was with 7 people WORSHIPING God!
Job was with his friends !

Serpent, everyone including you know that family do not count as people.nor close friends but serpents like you have to lie, so carry your lies away.

Never saw this thread or mention.

FRANCISTOWN:
Lemme address this notion once and for all.

Atheism is not a foreign ideology.
Stop talking out of ignorance. It's becoming seriously embarrassing.

I may be liable to error but many of ya would agree with me that everyone who became an atheist became that thru discoveries.

Thought several factors can be responsible for this discovery....

You already know that you are in error for you do not show how atheism was not a
foreign ideology.

All you have fallaciously pleaded is to show how you and other Africans turned ito atheism and the causes of atheism .

All these rendering your post false.

FRANCISTOWN:
Dtruthspeaker on the other hand has given the name 'Satan' to anyone who doesn't believe in his YHWH. Lol! Funny dude. And MaxInDHouse is another funny dude who goes around with a bible written in English but to be read like an Arabic text.

Fallacy! Off point.

jaephoenix:
Lol. I can equally pull up many posts by atheists stating christians are toxic. Doesn't mean anything.
I'm talking about you. Many people including your fellow christards say you're toxic

You atheists are already the world's champion of toxic liars, so there is nothing for you to do.

jaephoenix:
See as a woman dey give you spanking for debate. And you call yourself a lawyer. Lol 😆

See how fool no know say me man be dat. Secondly, him dey beat me yet na Im dey well upanda. You be the living definition of fool.

Negroid001:
I'll report you if you quote me again. You're looking for my attention and you won't get it. Can't exchange words with someone that types long derogatory replies like yours. We don't believe in the same thing, so? Go your way. Attention seeker.

See how unreasonable you atheists are?

If we all agreed and had the same beliefs then this blog would not exist. But, we do not

And argument is the lawful means of determining whose beliefs is right or not.

So you have a right to hold your beliefs but when you come to sell your beliefs as True, you should expect that it would be contested.

And ditto, were you not the who first used offensive and derogatory statements in calling us "delusional folks."because you can't accept nor process anything that contradicts your core belief system?

Just say you choose atheism whether even if it is a bad and evil belief rather than come here t make it sound as if it is a True and good thing

This is religious section a place where Truth must be found even if it can't be found anywhere else but Truth must be found here.

So separate your personal bias from Truth when you speak on these matters

MaxInDHouse:
What is off point?

See cunning serpent pretending not to know that the point was Samuel was woken up by a witch to speak even though he was dead and buried and not whether he was "a servant of the true God who never had anything to do with witches" which is your cunning departure from the argument since you have seen thst you have lost the argument.

So Satan's seed you are just continuing your father's work of lies and deception.

MaxInDHouse:
You that doesn't believe in the gathering of worshipers is calling someone a serpent and Satan. )

Off point Serpent
And exactly like Satan and atheists and fake preachers you always need a gatherring whereas, Noah, Job, Daniel were alone with God. But this is aside and off point, Serpent. So carry your lies away.

Negroid001:
True story. Maybe when epiphany hits. They'll come around.

Only very stupid people become atheists. Unfortunately, many are stupid.