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Kingdomtruth:
...The actual reason why Christ came was to help us deal with this FLESH that I just told you about. He came to help us destroy it(FLESH) in the body and in our lives as a whole, so that:

Yes, Through Showing us how we can mindfully and Rightfully Obey The Law!

Kingdomtruth:
. Mind you, you can never know everything about sin, as it is not a particular activity. Rather, it is a way of life (a LIFESTYLE). I really can't do much to expose the FLESH here in this BRIEF comment. Please visit my profile and see more about it there. So, I hope you can now understand what I meant, when I said you could not be able to obey the LAW 100% and be faithful by your human effort without the help of the HOLY SPIRIT... The HOLY SPIRIT, is the power you'll receive through your union with Christ Jesus that will help you to conquer/defeat this evil power called FLESH in you. Reason why I said: you can't do it own your own except by GRACE which is found only in Christ Jesus.

Good afternoon brother. I verily understand the wicked power of the flesh and I was once under it, but I broke away from it because I laid the Law before my eyes (as David recommended) and acted on it in defiance of how I felt about it.

And viola, one day, sin and and all manners of sin became a great annoyance unto me and I began to hate all the peoples of this world for I saw and see all the wickedness that they do, Exactly as it Written "Love not the world".

And I in Truth Hated the world which I accomplished through the Keeping of The Law before my eyes as David said.

And this song was also my fuel!

"To keep Your lovely face
Ever before my eyes
This is my prayer
Make it my strong desire
That in my secret heart
No other love competes
No rival throne survives
And I serve only You"

MightySparrow:
Ha!!!!

Yes, this is True, Even before the Commencements were given Exodus 16:4

4Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.

Did they Obey? No!

On the day they were to receive The Commandment, did they receive it?

Exodus 32:7 and 8
And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

The Answer, No, they Did not Want it.

After the Commandments was given to them, did they still want to keep it?

All the Prophets Stand Witnesses to the Truth that they departed from The Law and Never ever
Obeyed it, as Moses had Warned and Cursed From Deuteronomy 4:1-28 and Deuteronomy 28:15-68.

Kingdomtruth:
Hmmm! bro, I think you need to understand that there were 613 LAWS to obey.

I know it is said "A long trip always begins with step 1 and it is tiny drops of rain that fills a tank!

Little steps is all a baby used to walk!

I do not claim to have kept all 613 but I do Truly say I have not Strove with any man for no just cause neither do I wilfully or uncaringly harm a man nor deprive him of his due.

Which is why I always restate this pronouncement of Law

"The Tenets of The Law are To Live Honestly, To Harm No One and To Give to Each his Due!"

Kingdomtruth:
The scripture in Galatians says: whoever fails to keep all the LAWS(613 LAWS) and obey them always is under God's curse. Meaning a failure to keep and obey 1 out of the said 613 LAWs,

It is not Galatians that Said So but The Law'ers
(The Levites) starting at Deuteronomy 27:14-26 (Please take out time to examine the Curses).

Then the Next Curses are Specific to Israel because they were Given a Gift of God's Righteous Laws, Deuteronomy 28:15-68.

Kingdomtruth:
Who do you think had the power to really obey those LAWS always bro? Be sincere to your self please...Remember also that: the FLESH which is the evil power controlling every human being as flesh and blood would not have allowed anyone to obey the LAW, because that was his power to kill those under the LAW...

That is why I said Try It, Keep The Law First and see if you won't develop a taste for keeping The Law thereby destroying the power of the flesh!

Kingdomtruth:
.Lastly, I'd like you to think this through: why do you think Christ came? if we could obey the LAW on our own, then, there was no point Him coming to the point of dieing to help us out with the LAW...

Which of us knew The Law to Obey it? No, not One, Even the people who were given The Law fled from it and Obeyed it not, s o how could any man obey The Law, which has practically disappeared?

That's why Christ Came!

He Brought it back, and re-empowered it and taught us that That The Law is Waiting for Us.

Which is why ALL HIS TEACHINGS ARE THE VERY TEACHINGS OF THE LAW IF IT COULD HAVE SPOKEN.

BUT CHRIST THEREFORE VOICED OUT THE LAW.

WHICH IS WHY I ALWAYS CHALLENGE ANYONE, CAN THEY FIND A TEACHING OF CHRIST'S WHICH IS NOT THE LAW?

ALL HIS TEACHINGS HAVE THEIR ROOT AND STEM AND BRANCHES IN THE LAW!

Kingdomtruth:
Please get this bro, no one can be able to obey all the LAWs on his own without the GRACE that is found in Christ Jesus alone...And that GRACE comes to us only by FAITH and nothing else. Thanks

As I said pay Obey The Law First in Truth and See if you would not change!

I do challenge you to prove me Wrong!

Obey The Law First, I Guarantee you, that you would see that the power the flesh has over you would begin to die if you Truly want it to die!

Kingdomtruth:
...My point actually was that: Because the LAW is HOLY, ..Hence, no matter how we might have tried to obey the LAW, we could not because we lacked the power to do so..

Good morning, Brother!

The bolded is what I knew would be the end of your post, for the Truth is No Man is TRYING to Obey The Law and they do have the power to but they refuse to.

Eg How many times has God said do not trust in riches or money, yet look at men, do they not labour to be rich and work for money?

God says stick to your wages, yet do they not Steal, saying "I no go slack" even before they are tempted?

My contribution is that Christ came to Re-emphasize The Law Laying before us what we choose to do vs. what The Law has instructed and recommended we ought to do!

It is this Teaching which makes Him "The Way"!

Kingdomtruth:
It then means that the LAW was in place to reveal what sin is to us pending the coming of Christ who will now give us the higher power(HOLY SPIRIT) to help conquer sin in us so that we can effortlessly obey the LAW by GRACE in Christ Jesus.

And naturally you will conclude here which is the Wrong Way.

It is the other way round, it is by Obeying The Law that we shall be helped to Conquer Sin!

I do verily Personally attest to the Truth of this, and Iie not.

Which is why it is Written "Happy is he that keepeth The Law"

enilove:
Jesus said he has not come to abolish the law but you are saying he came to abolish the law .
Are you not afraid of the wrath of God ?

Are saying that it is no longer a sin to kill ?
Or are you saying a christian can go to heaven with adultery ?

My Sister help me tell him oh!

He is reading a Legal Document, Written by a Lawyer as a carpenter would read a medical doctors Diagnosis Notes!

How can his reading ever be correct?

Would he accept and act on an information passed by a mechanic when his landlord's lawyer has written a 3Paged Letter?

SEE YOUR TWISTED CONNECTIONS? FIRST YOU SAY,

Kobojunkie:
...
God offers man plans/contracts... it has been His way since He made man, and it remains His way. It is up to the individual to decide if the plan/Contract/Covenant works for Him - The default being Death anyways. ...

YET, AFTER THAT, YOU SAY,

Kobojunkie:
First of all, you being of gentile roots were never under Old Covenant Law that you should pretend you were somehow under it at any point in time.

WHY WOULD YOUR CIRCUITS, RELAYS, IC'S AND CIRCUIT BOARDS NOT SHUT OUT AND BURN WHEN YOU PUT NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE WIRES ON THE SAME LINE?

TRUTH IS CONSISTENT AND UND UNCHANGING AND CERTAINLY, IT DOES NOT SPEAK CONFUSIONS AND CONTRADICTIONS!

LisaAnneMia:
Let's just hold on to 1 John 4:17 - As He is, so are we in this world. As Jesus is righteous, so are we in this world. As Jesus has everything, so do we in this world. Amazing grace

Righteousness, like many Personal Rights/Righteousness is A Personal Asset, IT IS NOT TRANSFERABLE, Just as Buhari, Ministers, your parents working in a Company, doctors, law'ers can not transfer their personal right of "President", Minister, employee, doctorship or lawership to another person!

You must go through the process of earning your own Personal Asset!

Thus, No one is righteous until they do righteousness.

Kingdomtruth:
4) To live in righteousness (Christ) is to be free from sin and the LAW. To live in sin(Satan) is to be a slave of sin and the LAW...

THE REASON FOR THE LAW.

The LAW was given in order to reveal and expose what sin is. It is important to know that: before the LAW was given, no one knew what sin was. Everyone kept on sinning and living a sinful life IGNORANTLY before the LAW. Everyone saw sin as a norm.

It is a horrible and a disgraceful thing when people do not stay in their place.

For would you go to a barber for appendicitis? Or would you go to a plumber to fix your car? Or would you call a farmer when the Police take you to Court?

Therefore, what you wrote is Wrong for it is Only A Levite or Law'er/Lawyer who can Truly give you the True interpretation of Matters of Law

Thus, what you wrote is a Legal presentation as given by a Farmer!

For if you were a Law'er, you would have known that the Purpose of The Law is Many To Wit-

1) To Separate Rightness and Goodness from wickedness and wrongness!

2) To Direct and Instruct the Doing of Righteousness and Goodness while preventing and condemning the doing of wickedness

3) To ensure and guarantee that all who obey the Law are Safe from Prosecution, Guilt, Condemnation and Punishment!

Just to mention a few Purposes!

XXXXTENTACION:
Ok i agree jesus is different from God so whats your point.

My point is, it is the place, job and honour for every subordinate, employee and child to carry out the instructions and Will His Superior, Employer and Father.

Thus, knowing, understanding and even being in Possession of the Execution of God's Plan for man, Christ came to execute and carrry out the Good Plans of His father.

Like every Good son must do!

XXXXTENTACION:
Jesus and God are they not thesame thing
father and son are they not thesame blood

Husband and wife are they not one? Nuclear and Extended families are they not one? Gate man and Oga in the same company eg a bank are they not one?

Yet are any of these the same one to each other?
Is a son, the Father or a Father, the son? is Buhari's son the President of Nigeria? Or is Regina, Ned Nwoko?

[quote author=harmargedon post=100525496
]They just needed a story for the movement. It makes no sense God killing himself to forgive humanity. It's like putting your hand in a fire to teach your kids that fire is dangerous. Evidence has it that Jesus family tomb was found in Israel and his bone box too. Even when the IAA tries to cover it up, we all know the truth.[/quote]You just had to Lie to fly your banners!

XXXXTENTACION:
Lets gets this straight. Is it reasonable for you to sacrifice yourself to yourself

He did not sacrifice Himself to Himself BUT TO Another, His Father and King of All, God Ultimate!

XXXXTENTACION:
if Jesus was resurrected then paradoxically they was no sacrifice. The death of Jesus was supposed to be a sacrifice that God made in order for him to be capable of forgiving our sins, but bringing him back also takes back the sacrifice. I am having a hard time coming up with what the sacrifice was, since Jesus is back and all as if he never died.
Jesus's spiritual, godly essence wasn't sacrificed, since it's up in heaven. His physical body wasn't sacrificed, since it got up and left the tomb.

If God actually killed himself for a sacrifice, as in no coming back, taking his entire being out of the picture forever, now that might be a sacrifice worth getting emotional about.

If Jesus was dead didn't get to resurrect, and God sacrificed his ability to ever make himself a man again that would be a significant sacrifice but none of that is the case, nothing was sacrificed on God's behalf which only makes sense since it's hard to sacrifice yourself to yourself.

You are just trying to find fault where there is none!

When your rent is paid do you care what your landlord did with it or is it your concern? Or When you kill your chicken, goat and cow is it not sufficient that it is dead? Do you and did you care that maggots got the the carcass?

So also, it is not up for consideration what happens to Christ Once He was killed and He Died!

And save for the fact that He must Fulfill the Prophecy that He would and Must be raised up, He might not have had this great world notice.

There is just no pleasing you people.

God goes left you complain, why left? Why not right" He goes right you still complain, why right?
Why not stand? He stands you still complain "why are you not doing something?"

God please, come quickly and Give Judgement and wipe all, as you promised!

Faviboss:
A student was asked to state the advantages of breast milk and this was his reply (image below). Do you think he was right?

Absolutely 8 Marked!

FatherOfJesus:
Accept what? This is why I prefer trolling you. You like back and forth argument.

You love insulting me because you like many others here are not ever able to provide a validl and reasonable counter for any of my presentations even after exhausting your arsenals.

But where I engaged you because I saw you were reasonable and trying to be, I see now that personal hatred for me now rules you over Good Reason and Verification of Information.

But I understand!

Blue3k:
What tenent of natural law are you referring to? You're just making noise which why you you'll achieve nothing. You dont want a new state, you want engage in catharsis about how unfair life is like you're 12.

Many Tenets but you are not interested in any of them and you are just plain angry that I have pointed out that your beloved illegal entity called Nigeria and it's Weak, fraudulent, imbalance, unjust and completely inadequate law is A FRAUD AND AN OPPRESSION AND CAN NEVER EVER SOLVE ANY PROBLEM!

charleybam:
Thanks for your wise contribution on this

I do not know if you this is bonafide or sarcastic but I am just trying to honestly and Truthfully discharge my duty to owed my fellow men.

FatherOfJesus:
the analogy is faulty considering the omniscient nature of God. All knowing

Which is because you do not want to accept it and take cognizance of the words "To see what he shall call it" or "and God Saw that...." or "That I may Prove them whether they will walk in my Law, or no" and all these variations repeated several several times through the Bible!

But, I won't push it any further!

Blue3k:
If you're not going to create a state through the legal process or violence you're just making noise. Whining isnt going to solve the problem.

Natural Law settled the problem but your theives ruling over you, need the chaos!

Blue3k:
It Seems Middle Belt forum is making noise without understanding how the constitutional process works currently. There are no regions so think of how to make a new state.

You seriously think that that Constitution solves and can problems?

Man himself, the maker of the Constitution requires help towards solving his own problems, is it now the law of the man who needs help that can solve the greater problems of man?

A Clear Case of going to a Poor man to seek satisfaction!

Even the country Nigeria is illegal, how much more the laws made by an Illegal country!

charleybam:
And you expect me to believe an ounce of the book?

No one can do anything about your beliefs, like your bed, you are going to lay it by yourself!

achanyaene:
Every attempt to use man didn’t work so he came to do it himself. As the maxim goes, if you want anything done perfectly do it yourself.

Or if you want to Catch a person committing an offence, going undercover is a good idea!

charleybam:
Any Biblical proof to back your claim please and Adam was also cursed, what's the point?

Genesis 4:18 upwards "Irad begat...; Mehujael begat...; Methusael begat,...;

Certainly men can not do the "begatting"!

arejibadz:
You need 1000 and you ask your earthly father who's worth millions won't he give it to you,then why does God who they claim owns everything delay to give you what you ask for?

Because it is not God who is supposed to give you but your fellow man whom God has given the advantage of surplus!

ImmaculateJOE:
Christ rose again on the third day.
OR
Christ resurrected after three days.

Hallelujah!
cc OAMAJ, Lalasticlala

Rose on the 3rd Day

eomajeh:
Question: What is Easter

Me: according to what i've heard, someone/ something/ some force somewhere called god felt humans have offended him/her/it so greatly, so he gave them his son to kill so that he/ she/ it will forgive them.

An interesting story!!!

That is not True but as you said it is your own make-believe!

When it is An "YOU OFFENDED ME GREATLY! MY SON, GO WARN THEM LEST I POUR MY ANGER ON THEM!

AND THE PEOPLE MURDERED THE SON!

Ho! They are gonnas

charleybam:
Clears throat
Please i have a question for the religious people

Adam had both sons and daughters but because of Eve's Curse, women were not recorded.

So Cain married his sister as Peggywebbs said!

Judybash93:
He/she/it is the alpha and omega, who knows the end from the beginning. He even knows an individual before they're conceived.

He does not lose His Greatness simply because He Adopts the "Wait and See Approach"!

FatherOfJesus:
So the omniscient nature of God can be compared to that of an earthly father?

I simply explained to you the Application of His Knowingness using normal human conduct since we are slightly like Him!

imiski:
soul and body

Soul is the non-physical man while the body is the cloth (Flesh) worn by the non-physical man when he is on earth!

FatherOfJesus:
Does this mean that everyone that died before the death of Jesus will go to hell?

You must mean lake of Fire!

The Answer is every soul born since Cain and Abel are Awaiting Trial in the Court of God!