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Psalm 3
Lord, how are they increased that trouble me
Many are they that rise up against me.
Many there be which say of my soul
There is no help for Him in God.

But Thou, O Lord, art a shield for me
My glory, You lift mine head.
But Thou, O Lord, art a shield for me
You're my glory, the lifter up of mine head.

I cried unto the Lord with my voice
And He heard me out of His holy hill.
I laid me down and I slept
I awaked; for the Lord sustained me.

But thou oh lord art a shield for me
My glory, u lift my head
But thou oh lord art a shield for me
My glory, u lifter up of my head

I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people
That have set themselves against me round about.
I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people
That have set themselves against me round about.

But thou oh lord art a shield for me
My glory, u lift my head
But thou oh lord art a shield for me
My glory, u lifter up of my head.

It is Finished!!

Praise Be the Lord, Forever and Ever, Amen!

LordReed:
Good! So you admit you lied since you know I never said anyone was crazy for believing in god nor did I say I would disprove god

This Post is not about proving whether you Lied or Not (And Yet Another Shift of your Post) BUT ABOUT MY FIRM AND INFALLIBLE STAND ON THE TRUTH THAT GOD EXISTS, WHICH, STILL NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO STILL MAKE ME FALL!

LordReed:
You can keep waiting for someone to disprove god while we keep waiting for you to prove god.
LMFAO!

,
HE FLEES! HE FLEES!!

COME EVERYONE, SEE, SATAN HAS FALLEN AND SATAN FLEEEEES!!!

I have seen, seen the downfall of Satan, Glory Be to God, Glory Be to Jesus;

I have seen, seen, the downfall of Satan, Glory Glory, Glory, Be to God, Amen.

Psalm 27
7 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident.

4 One thing have I desired of the Lord, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the Lord, and to enquire in his temple.

5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.

6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the Lord

For they lunged at my soul from the left and from the right, from the front and from behind, but they have stumbled and have fallen.

They came with Mockings and Curses, but my soul was Protected,

Praise Ye the Lord, who Doeth Valiantly!

Sabr1na:
Ugh. Stop deceiving yourself

Just because I adopt a position for the sake of debate does not necessarily mean I have positively accepted that position. You have committed a strawmain fallacy

You're pretty horrible at this

Simple reasoning sweet heart, You Are Either Up or Down: In Or Out; Sitting on the Fence Is not allowed, unless you are a spectator, which you if you were, you've lost it because you have entered Into the Ring, so fight or flee, your choice. But I ain't going nowhere!

Sabr1na:
Oh no you don't mister!

If you don't know him, then you don't know him. It is crass dishonesty that gives you the audacity to ascribe names and many other attributes to him. If truly you believe the creator cannot be known, then you are a deist. Your belief in jesus has already exposed your dishonest intentions here. Sorry.

Through lies and self-deceit you mean?

A fallacy can never "not be" a fallacy. No matter how much you like to play the word twister. Your debating skills are abysmal to put it mildly.

Now you wish to make this post get out of hand, Lady, fight fair for this discussion proceeded this far because of fair and even arguments, even Reed, abided by it. It is an Unfair and Unjust way to argue and it Is Wrong for you to tempt me into arguing with you in the way and manner you are suggesting.

I would not participate in arguing with you in this way and manner because it leads to Unfairness and Injustice.

For if you can fight so, I can do so also and should have done so from the beginning and this post would from the beginning would have been unintelligible for any Ordinary Reasonable Person to Follow and come to a sound and fair Judgement.

Back to your earlier post and the fair parts of your latter post.

You Left the Issue of the Existence of God and called on me to Answer, (in your own words) 'Pray tell, how did you come about the knowledge that this creator is Yahweh? What is your evidence that it is not Allah, Vishnu, Horus etcetera etcetera....? NB

Based on that Clear question I answered Clearly saying

"I Already Answered that I do not know His Name, and No One does!

And by this statement, it means that You Have Accepted that God Exists (Which is The Issue in Contention) and now, you Only wish to know His Name (which is a separate issue).

So on the issue of the name, I have answered above and I further state those names you mentioned above are names which man uses to identify a specific person for communication purposes. But that does not mean that man knows the True Name of His Creator, like the Camry can Never ever know Mr. Toyoda or that he is even called Mr. Toyoda."

Now, you have Yet Again, Abandoned this issue and called on me Once Again to Attempt to give you Another Answer for Yet Another Issue, To wit-Knowledge of Him saying "If you don't know him, then you don't know him'".

This, I say is not the issue.

LordReed:
Can quote any place I said someone is crazy for believing in god? Can quote any place I said I can or I will disprove god?

What you just show is you twist things to fit your narrative and massage your ego.

LMFAO!

Another change of post!

The issue is not about proving whether you said someone is crazy for believing in God, but I Stand on the Proof That God Lives and that You All can Never Prove me wrong, which up till now you have Still not done And Neither Are You Ever Able to Do It, RATHER YOU ARE RUNNING ALL OVER THE PLACE ATTEMPTING TO RAISE DIFFERENT ISSUES.

BUT I'M STILL STANDING AND WAITING FOR YOU ALL!!!

Sabr1na:
Actually LordReed exposed a logical fallacy you committed called false equivalence. This is Logic 101, c'mon

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges".

Naah, it's not a fallacy, because I pleaded History from my first Post. And By This Action, All Histories (between us) becomes Relevant, which he himself attempted to use against me, as I did him, therefore, it was proper.

Sabr1na:
Address this first before you get consumed in your delusions of grandeur

I have addressed this up here!

LordReed:
I was not trying to disprove your fairytale god since you didn't prove him in the first place. I treat you fairytale god as I treat any character from an story, I discuss the character and its actions within the confines of the story. It in no way means the character is real unless of course if it is based on true life which you can hardly find evidence for your disjointed god stories.

LMFAO!

See what I Accused you of doing? You changing goal posts again.

First, your clear stand is that we are crazy for believing that there is a God, which means you are clearly saying that there is no God.

Now you have switched to say that you
"I was not trying to disprove your fairytale god" yet, you are here again, unsuccessfully attempting to dislodge me from my stand that God Lives!

Your Stands Must Always be Firm, if it's True and if you Truly Believe it, to be True, You Must Stand or Fall with It.

When you shift grounds, it Always Means that you have Abandoned Your Former Ground, when it was Attacked, WHICH ALWAYS MEANS THAT, THAT GROUND IS WEAK and HAVING SEEN THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR GROUND, YOU FLED ELSEWHERE!

You are either standing firmly on the ground that there is no God, with your proof and you stand or fall with it. "He who runs away from the war front is a deserter and a loser and not fit to fight"

I STOOD ON MINE, AND EVEN TILL NOW, NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SHAKE ME OUT OF IT OR MAKE ME FALL!

Sabr1na:
Your reply is as vague as it is ridiculous. You new breed of NL apologists always come up with the most embarrassing arguments.

You said creations are not capable of knowing their creators".

Based on what I've read from you, I'm gonna safely assume here that you are a theist. On that note, if you believe that creations cannot possess knowledge of their creators(s) until it is revealed unto them by said creator(s). Pray tell, how did you come about the knowledge that this creator is Yahweh? What is your evidence that it is not Allah, Vishnu, Horus etcetera etcetera....? NB If you're going to bring up the Bible, I'll have to ask you why the Quran does not convince you to be a Muslim.

This "ANSWER" of yours can only be compatible with the deist's belief(s). We already know it is not compatible with theism i.e christianity, islam etc due to internal contradictions in their doctrines and religious texts. Are you a deist? If not then your answer is simply balderdash. In the event that you are a deist however, what positive evidence do you have for design in creation?

I Already Answered that I do not know His Name, and No One does!

And by this statement, it means that You Have Accepted that God Exists (Which is The Issue in Contention) and now, you Only wish to know His Name (which is a separate issue).

So on the issue of the name, I have answered above and I further state those names you mentioned above are names which man uses to identify a specific person for communication purposes. But that does not mean that man knows the True Name of His Creator, like the Camry can Never ever know Mr. Toyoda or that he is even called Mr. Toyoda.

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BeLookingIDIOT:
They only follow the ones talking about tithes.
These are amongst the OT verses you're referring to right?

You will not see

If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the Lord. Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.

5 If a man has recently married, he must not be sent to war or have any other duty laid on him. For one year he is to be free to stay at home and bring happiness to the wife he has married.

7 If someone is caught kidnapping a fellow Israelite and treating or selling them as a slave, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you.

10 When you make a loan of any kind to your neighbor, do not go into their house to get what is offered to you as a pledge. 11 Stay outside and let the neighbor to whom you are making the loan bring the pledge out to you. 12 If the neighbor is poor, do not go to sleep with their pledge in your possession. 13 Return their cloak by sunset so that your neighbor may sleep in it. Then they will thank you, and it will be regarded as a righteous act in the sight of the Lord your God.

14 Do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow Israelite or a foreigner residing in one of your towns. 15 Pay them their wages each day before sunset, because they are poor and are counting on it. Otherwise they may cry to the Lord against you, and you will be guilty of sin.

16 Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.

17 Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice, or take the cloak of the widow as a pledge. 18 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and the Lord your God redeemed you from there. That is why I command you to do this.

19 When you are harvesting in your field and you overlook a sheaf, do not go back to get it. Leave it for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. 20 When you beat the olives from your trees, do not go over the branches a second time. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow. 21 When you harvest the grapes in your vineyard, do not go over the vines again. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow. 22 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt. That is why I command you to do this.

25 When people have a dispute, they are to take it to court and the judges will decide the case, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty. 2 If the guilty person deserves to be beaten, the judge shall make them lie down and have them flogged in his presence with the number of lashes the crime deserves, 3 but the judge must not impose more than forty lashes. If the guilty party is flogged more than that, your fellow Israelite will be degraded in your eyes.

4 Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.

5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband’s brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel.

7 However, if a man does not want to marry his brother’s wife, she shall go to the elders at the town gate and say, “My husband’s brother refuses to carry on his brother’s name in Israel. He will not fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to me.” 8 Then the elders of his town shall summon him and talk to him. If he persists in saying, “I do not want to marry her,” 9 his brother’s widow shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, take off one of his sandals, spit in his face and say, “This is what is done to the man who will not build up his brother’s family line.” 10 That man’s line shall be known in Israel as The Family of the Unsandaled.

11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

13 Do not have two differing weights in your bag—one heavy, one light. 14 Do not have two differing measures in your house—one large, one small. 15 You must have accurate and honest weights and measures, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. 16 For the Lord your God detests anyone who does these things, anyone who deals dishonestly.

[quote author=BeLookingIDIOT post=[center]90895057]They only follow the ones talking about tithes.
These are amongst the OT verses you're referring to right?


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EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave
may be beaten to death with no punishment for
the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die
too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side,
and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
the camp, and slay every man his brother, and
every man his companion, and every man his
neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if
they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before
your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a
punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the
flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers
and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 )
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great
plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven
days because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open
and swallow up the men and their households
(including wives and children) because the men
had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700
people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the
Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill
many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites
slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until
there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses,
take all the heads of the people, and hang them
up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the
tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of
Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the
Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women
and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all the
Midianite male children and "... every woman who
has known man ...." (Note: How would it be
determined which women had known men? One
can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you."
JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing
for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and
children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men
and women, so that there were none who
escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua
utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua
defeated the whole land ...; he left none
remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung.
(Exceedingly cruel.)
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was
none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden
their hearts that they should come against Israel
in battle, in order that they should be utterly
destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be
exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats
10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues
Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his
thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites
Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and
Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who
inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it
through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the
ground.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites,
slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring
the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of
Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people
in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his
head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to
his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his
servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved
daughter, his only child, according to a vow he
has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men.
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the
jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's
eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord,
pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and
causes his own death and that of 3000 other men
and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and
unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men
beat on the door of an old man's house
demanding that he turn over to them a male
house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel.
JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of
valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and
beasts and all that they found," and set their
towns on fire.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of
Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and;
also the women and little ones.... every male and
every woman that has lain with a male you shall
utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred
young virgins whom they bring back for their own
use.
1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot
soldiers.
1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with
tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for
having stolen the Ark.
1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.)
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the
Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his
men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the
Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now
go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man
and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep,
camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed
all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before
the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry:
"Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten
thousands."
1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman
alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and
infants were included in the slaughter.)
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth,
behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed,
their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies
hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life.
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's
murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the
horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David
wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the
valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he
can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.
2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead
for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the
battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.
2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and
leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped."
2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel
that kills 70,000 men.
1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.
1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.
1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.
1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating
bread and drinking water in a place where the
Lord had previously told him not to. This is in
spite of the fact that the man had subsequently
been lied to by a prophet who told the man that
an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright
to eat and drink there.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian
soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians.
2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and
consumes fifty men.
2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and
killed, presumably according to the will of God,
for having jeered at a man of God.
2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his
descendants forever with leprosy.
2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and
strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks
the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The
next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we
may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.
2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.
2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is
trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that
only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands
remain.
2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded,
then sends the heads to their father.
2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.
2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he
slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he
had wiped them out, according to the word of the
Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then
10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in
the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with
leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women
who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people
that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with
harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains
hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the
sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for
the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of
the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to
become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth."
LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off
than those who die of famine; racked with
hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ...
pitiful women have cooked their own children,
who became their food ..."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men
outright, young men and maidens, little children
and women ...."
EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the
Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children.
EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both
the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall
go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores.
EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and
tear your breasts."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their
infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up."
MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their
flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh
of my people, and flay their skin from off them;
and they break their bones, and chop them in
pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the
caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity
burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his
brother to death, and the father his child, ...
children shall rise up against their parents, and
cause them to be put to death."
MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man
against his father, a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a
man's enemies will be the members of his own
family."
MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of]
three cities who were not sufficiently impressed
with his great works.
AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though
not permanently).
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (DavidTheir bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the [/center]womb; their eye shall not spare[size=8pt][/size]
children.[/quote]This is the one you would see, you won't see

There shall be no LovePeddler of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a LovePeddler, or the price of a dog, into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

When thou shalt vow a vow unto the Lord thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it: for the Lord thy God will surely require it of thee; and it would be sin in thee.

22 But if thou shalt forbear to vow, it shall be no sin in thee.

23 That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the Lord thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.

24 When thou comest into thy neighbour's vineyard, then thou mayest eat grapes thy fill at thine own pleasure; but thou shalt not put any in thy vessel.

25 When thou comest into the standing corn of thy neighbour, then thou mayest pluck the ears with thine hand; but thou shalt not move a sickle unto thy neighbour's standing corn.

Even when the Lord, Jesus, the Christ, Himself Clearly and Unequivocally Stated that He Does Not Do His Own Will But His Will is To Do the Will of His Father, they would still not hear!

I wonder what they shall hear?

And Folks, You Have All Seen and Bore Witness to the Fact That No One earth can ever Disprove That God Does Exists Neither is it going to be ever Disproved!

Even by the multitudes of Mockings and Abuses and Whippings, They Shall Never be Established; And Neither Shall they be Founded by the Numbers of Their Persons.

And No Matter What Weapons they Fashioneth Against the Truth of the Lord, IT SHALL NOT EVER PROSPER!

It is The Lord Himself Who Has Done It. And His Truths Are Established in this World, And No man Changeth It, and Neither Are they Able to Ever Change it.

The Truth of the Lord is Established Forever!

Grace, Mercy and Peace, from God, the Father and Christ Jesus, Our Lord, to all who bear the hope of the Salvation of our God.

If 2 can be One, can 3 not become One?

Come to think of this, is it not written, that the body have Many Members, but yet One body,?

Therefore, even the Many, can be One!

MrPresident1:
Dtruthspeaker, show us what you mean from Scriptures

Is it not confessed among men when they say "they are in hell? Or Going Through hell?"

Do we not Truly See it in them? Or over them?

Is hell not a Place of Intense Suffering? I can not recall any scripture pronouncement on this only Natural Law, which is what I called Hell Part 1!

Hell Part 2 is backed by the Bible. For that is the Place where Those, Who Obtained The Judgement of the Lord, on a Particular Crime, where Sentenced to Hell.

Jude 4 -7- Particularly verse 6- "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

While Those Who have no Judgement from the Lord, do what we call dying, which Christ Called Sleeping, are held in the Place of Sleeping called, death. "The Soul that sinneth, shall die", and we all sin.

In the end death and hell deliver their respective inmates Unto the Lord for Final Judgement.

LordReed:
LMFAO! OMFD! This is your proof? Your proof is an atheist making fun of your imaginary god?

GRIMMJOE please come help me I am about to pee my pants with laughter.

You were not making fun but ABANDONING YOUR ATTACK SINCE YOU COULD NO LONGER ATTACK!

You had run out of bullets and you were now HURLING CURSES wondering why you are not able to shoot anything more than Curses and Abuses and Mockings AT THE END!

Trying to laugh away your Defeat, would not change the fact that You Are All NEVER EVER Going be Able to Disprove That God Lives, by any form of Reasonable Proper Argument.

And besides,.It Is Seen That After, A Person has been Defeated, Either Silence or Concession is given to the victor, (which is a sign of a Honourable Person) or Curses and Abuses and Mockings FOLLOW.

So Mock On But God Retains The Victory, for None of You Could Ever ever Disprove That God Exists!

No, Not the first time, Not Ever!

LordReed:
Can you answer how the conversation proves god or settles anything?

Ok let me show you!

Dtruthspeaker:

Do we not destroy phones, laptops and cars that did not work well, therefore it is reasonable to expect that thy Creator is capable of doing the same to you if you do not His Will. This is the decision of Life and Death.

LordReed:


If this was the case repair shops would have gone out of business.

(You no longer pursued the argument that it was not True any longer but rather you started advocating for repairs, which was not the issue, but I patronized you, knowing it would Bite you deep one-day.

If you would say the truth, at this point in truth you admitted that God Exists, Only That You, Reed, Hate Him, which I verily saw on that day.

And many of your post Prove His Existence, which Always Follows your hatred for Him eg your post from 6 days ago which is still fresh in the font page today says

"It Seems The Bible God Is Ok With Deception. by LordReed(m): 2:02pm On Jun 14"

Do I need any other proof after all these?

falcon01:
you are comparing Human with an object? Something that doesn't jave consciousness? Is that how you wanna play?

Did you not ask for proof, can I bring an invisible proof as proof? Come on!

GRIMMJOE:
He was counting on you not showing up.

Naah! I know Reed must show up for he was here earlier and he loves this type of topics.

LordReed:
You guys have a weird way of twisting things.
What in this conversation shows anything like what you are saying in this thread? Or that you settled anything?

Thank you for answering the call, but when I did not hear from you, I decided to search for it to bring it here so that I could drop the Full Answer of that particular discord.

Bodydialect57:
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among, the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?,
29 [b]But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:24-30
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The Lord Jesus Christ clearly pointed out in the above scriptures to let the tares and the wheat grow together because an attempt to pull out the tares could damage the wheat.
The harmful effects the tares/weeds have on the real plant could be overwhelming if not timely controlled.

Aside mistaken identity by inexperienced gardeners/farmers that could lead to its (wheat) being uprooted, weeds/tares reduce farm productivity, invade crops, and aggressively compete for water, nutrients and sunlight, resulting in reduced crop yield and poor crop quality.

In the face of those apparent dangers posed by the tares/weeds, why the coexistence till maturity?
Will the wheat survive the growing together?

How can a christian survive, as in, live an effective christian life in the midst of overwhelming mixed multitude?
Cc MuttleyLaff, FinallyDead, johnw47

See how thine eye is evil?

Rather than being thankful that NOT ONE INNOCENT AND GOOD SOUL WILL PERISH BECAUSE OF AN EVIL SOUL, you are rather wondering how it shall survive because of the presence of evil.

Moving forward, if you have truly been to a farm, you would have seen that Corns grow with grasses together, even though the farm was weeded off grasses at the first and there was no grass.

But, as they grow the Corns still grow up and bear Fruits even though the grasses, which were not there at the first, grew also.

Therefore, the Instruction of the parable is that if you belong to the Lord (Corn) You Are Able to Grow and Bear Fruits even though evil ( the grasses) are around You.

You Only Become A Grass if You Choose to Become One so Also as should You Choose to Become A Corn, it Shall be Done, if you Truly Desire It.

GRIMMJOE:
If this is where the truth started, why didn't post on the first page of this thread, yet was claiming you've already started the prove, what a confused theist.

And remember I told you that we have proven it and settled it Before!

GRIMMJOE:
If this is where the truth started, why didn't post on the first page of this thread, yet was claiming you've already started the prove, what a confused theist.

, hold on a second, Reed is coming, after that, I would show you, using your picture how you Proved it for me which I know in truth, you would not able to see it, but after Reed's Answer, I would show you.

Dtruthspeaker:
It Last begun this way-

https://www.nairaland.com/5082672/true-god-screenshots#76727643

Re: Is This True About God? (Screenshots) by Dtruthspeaker: 8:31am On Mar 17, 2019
falcon01:
there's a lot of shit we don't know about this world e.g
does God actually exist?? if yes Which among the thousand Gods is the real one? if No why. the f*ck are we on earth? is it even a male or female? does it Actually love us if yes why will he burn and torture us for going against his will which he already predestined ?? I just try not to think of all that nonsense and focus on been successfully.

Dtruthspeaker
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And this is my first answer then, which is Creations are Not Capable of Knowing Their Creators, UNLESS AND UNTIL THEIR CREATOR COMES TO TELL THEM SO.

Just like the Camry can not know Mr Toyoda Until Mr Toyoda comes to it to tell it, 'Hello, I'm your Owner and Creator".

Further you do not see and Neither have you heard any other Different Creator Challenging the Ownership and Rule of this world including man, as we have seen that is done in this world.

GRIMMJOE:
Let's hear it.

It Last begun this way-

https://www.nairaland.com/5082672/true-god-screenshots#76727643

Re: Is This True About God? (Screenshots) by Dtruthspeaker: 8:31am On Mar 17, 2019
falcon01:
there's a lot of shit we don't know about this world e.g
does God actually exist?? if yes Which among the thousand Gods is the real one? if No why. the f*ck are we on earth? is it even a male or female? does it Actually love us if yes why will he burn and torture us for going against his will which he already predestined ?? I just try not to think of all that nonsense and focus on been successfully.

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LordReed:
It doesn't look like this question is going be answered.

Ah Reed finally, you are here, you must remember that we settled the same issue, sometime paat, which ended with you abusing me as you usually do.

So could you be a darling and replicate our discussion here, cos you know if it came from you, it could be more authentic?

Thanks

Blackmoran:
so Christians should believe in the doctrine of an eye for an eye, cause that's what most of the stories proclaim in the old testament, and Jesus teaching is against that.....

Yes, to Isreal at that time and No to Everyone Today.!

Why yes to Isreal at that Time? Because as Declared to Abraham, God's Plan was to use his family to Cleanse the world of all evil!

And House Abraham having Cleansed themselves of all evil and Promising Not to do evil, became a Holy Nation, with God being there Ruler and Moses and Aaron being his physical Administrators.

Look at all the laws, are they not designed to purge the earth of all evil? Which evil that men do or are capable of doing that is Not Prohibited?

On one hand, while on the other, did He not Command the Very Many Good things that man can do to each other to Guarantee that His Goodness Fills the earth?

That was God's Plan for us, but typically of man we always Ruin His Good Plans and now today the same Yous who spoilt his plans and do evil are now the ones calling Him evil.

See how you destroyeth thy own soul "speaking evil of things you know not"? Woe Unto You!

GRIMMJOE:
Still searching for the prove

Your ladder picture itself is showing you the Answer? Do you not see it? Or are you a child?

GRIMMJOE:
Still searching for the prove

Are you interested in the Answer, even after professorcplus, who started the query, Himself has answered the question?