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Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 10:11am On Jun 30, 2020
Image123:
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy That's what i told him o
grin Yes you did. I saw you tell him, then he started woofing and howling at ya grin oh my that was funny.

Only for him to reveal his lack of comprehension to me grin got me shaking with laughter grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59am On Jun 30, 2020
Elder0001:
Bless you.

Watch as those delusional and brainwashed Christians start spewing rubbish in response to this wonderful submission.
Wait a minute, one of you is missing, Una Deliverer and Promoter, is not here?

Reeeed? lortReeeeeeeeed, Where art Thou? Your Disciples have been taking a bashing from the Lord, but you are not here, are you not going to save your Disciples?

CAPSLOCKED, where is your Daddy LortReed? He did not come here? But this Posts is his usual food and he is missing the parteee?

Hunger go kill am oh!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 9:47am On Jun 30, 2020
Elder0001:
That’s my alternate account.
Oh! That ain't right!

In these kind of issues of Truth, You Ought to be One and you must be One at all times, Because Truth is One.

That is why the devils Lose and Must Lose for he can not stand on One which is True, because he is a Liar and a Lie Can Never ever Stand on Any Truth, Like Darkness can not stay with light in the same place, at the same time.

Therefore, it is Needful for devil to have many lands and houses, Owned By Truth, to Run all over them as though it is his own, but when you check his ownership title, he Must Flee because by Truth Established and in Truth Established, he does not own any land, and can not own any land.

Therefore, he can never properly Possess any land he claims, if properly and rightfully challenged!
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help, Do We Have Unforgivable Sins? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:41am On Jun 30, 2020
You guys keep throwing around the word "blasphemy" what does it Practically Mean in daily living according to you? (Since I have already presened my own thoughts on it).
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help, Do We Have Unforgivable Sins? by Dtruthspeaker:
delkuf:
Yeah, you are correct. But it is when you willingly blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. There is difference between doing something that is wrong and knowing that something is wrong and still go ahead to do it. some people may blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unknowingly. When they are still sinners. but give your life to Christ and you know about the Holy Spirit and still go ahead to say things against. reject his love and publicly blasphemy against him, that is when you cannot be forgiven
And there is this other liability that the ordinary man is not aware of, in which he claims unawareness.

And it is the Liability of "You Could Have Known If You Truly Cared to Know" or "It Was Told You But You Did Not Care To Know"!

It is The God Given Natural Law that there is A Rebuttable Presumption "THAT A MAN ALWAYS INTENDS THE NATURAL (Or Reasonable) CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ACT"

And On This Ground, You Know, No One Can Lie or Deceive the Lord Here, as is done and doable to men.

So, if men when condemning he who has done wrong can say "there is intention to cause death and harm, if the accused, Deliberately and Intentionally did an act, KNOWING that death or grievous bodily harm WAS A PROBABLE CONSEQUENCE OF IT, Even Though He Did Not Desire That Result!

For a man is Condemned in 2 ways, physically and spiritually.

Meanwhile, God's Condemnation Commences spiritually, From the Heart, as Christ said "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:" Mathew 15:19.

It is not what goes in that condemns, it is Always what comes out! Mathew 15:11 and Repeated in Mathew 15:17-18.

Proverbs 21:2 "Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts".

Do you now appreciate why the kingdom of God is not going to be easy?

It is exactly as Christ said "the eye of a Needle".
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Man Eternally Burn In Hell? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:31pm On Jun 29, 2020
Barristter07:
Be clear , are you saying Satan and Hus demons are not yet in hell ?

@Red , that Means Hell doesnt exist ... How many people have you see die and their bodies dissapear to hell ? Or do you mean Jesus lied ?
This is another issue!

You did not ask if Satan and his demons are in hell

You Clearly Asked "So you mean people are in hell presently ??"

And I Answered Satisfactorily and Conclusively!

Then You Moved to Another Issue. And I Answered, Yet Again.

And now, Yet Again, You have Raised Up, Yet Another Issue, and I now Perceive that it is not Raised Bonafide and in Good Conscience.

Further, we have journeyed too far from the Course of the Present Post which was the Primary Issue in Focus.

So therefore, I Abstain from Answering You, even though I can Supply the Answers to the Questions Posed, But I would Not!

You have the Bible and if it is Not Enough, Then Like the Grave, You Can Never Be Full!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Man Eternally Burn In Hell? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:33pm On Jun 29, 2020
Barristter07:
Jesus said some persons will perform miracles by the power of these demons till today , So someone in hell torture can still be attending to people to give them power and prestige ??



If people are in hell present as you opined ... In what form are they there ?

A) Human body

B) Human body and Soul

C) Soul.


Good morning
Good afternoon!

So, we have settled that people are in Hell and Lake of Fire Already.

So, now we have moved to another issue!

"So someone in hell torture can still be attending to people to give them power and prestige ??"

No, not someone in hell, Someone here already, "the Prince of this world" John 14:30.

His First Moves was to Change the Laws and Times Daniel 7:25 and every one can easily see that certainly the Laws have changed.

"If people are in hell present as you opined ... In what form are they there ?"

You know that it is written, "the flesh profiteth nothing" John 6:63. And it is further written "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die". Romans 8:13. Hence Option A stands

Now in Mathew 10:28- The Lord Clearly said "God Hath power to Destroy Both Soul and Body in Hell! So Option B Stands!

Options C- it is written in Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are mine; the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

In Conclusion, The Lord Has Discretion to Exercise Options A,B or C or Any Other Power That It Pleaseth Him to so exercise, Without Limitations or Any Hinderance! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 12:51pm On Jun 29, 2020
atheistandproud:
Hiding behind who?

I don't debate with illogical and incoherent people.

One second you know the mind of god, the next second you don't know his mind because he works in mysterious ways.

You have not addressed anything about the post. Just jumping around.
Aha Dr LReed is Waiting for You in Medical Exam Room 1, head there now for your examination and revaluation. Stat!!! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 12:47pm On Jun 29, 2020
atheistandproud:
Hiding behind who?

I don't debate with illogical and incoherent people.

One second you know the mind of god, the next second you don't know his mind because he works in mysterious ways.

You have not addressed anything about the post. Just jumping around.
grin funny man, have you finished hiding behind Hakeem's Yansh?

Oh, I thought you were going to hide in his Yansh forever, so you can come out? Ok

Now that you are out, I started by calling you Uncoordinated, Scattered Brain, Distorted Thinking Process, Disjointed Mental facility and that you have 13 Dismembered Problems, Placed in 1 Clear Post of a Query!

By this action,You have also raised 13 Houses so that you can hide in any 1 of them, when we destroy any of them.

The Creation of these Your 13 Grounds and Houses Already Shows and Proves that YOU ARE WEAK!!!

And By Doing This even before I Address Your Stupid Issues, YOU ARE A COWARD and a Goatroom!

As Proven by your Spinelessness in Hiding Inside Hakeem's Yansh!!

By your action, you have also already Surrendered, even before the Fight Came, Showing us Your 13 Houses and getting ready to Scrambling into any One them, Even Before we took up your Query!

So even Before we attack your Stupid Issues, we can see, that You ALREADY KNOW YOUR ISSUES Are DEAD ON ARRIVAL (DOA).

And Having many Dead Children, will not make you the father of children. They are weightless, for they are Dead and therefore do not have any value.

So it would be unfair and a vanity to kill what is Dead, so I sheath my sword and as A Victor, I now declare;

That You Have Already Abandoned Hostilities and Fled to Safe Havens of Your Own Creation, I therefore Restate what I said at the first

"A Liar, A Thief and A Murderer, Always Requires The Need of Many Houses

Good and Truth Dwell Safely in Their House, even though it be Single!

And No One Can Destroy The House of The Good Nor The Dwelling Place of Truth!

Rather, They Will Destroy All Other Houses That Are Not Right or Good or Untrue! They Must Fall Down Destroyed!

So, since you have already lost the fight even before there was a fight, BY THE POWERS VESTED IN ME AS THE VICTOR OVER YOU, I DECLARE YOUR POST DEAD AND CLOSED FOREVER!!! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 10:17am On Jun 29, 2020
Plead:
I don’t remember telling you that I want to live in banana island. I’ve never wished or hope to stay there.

Despite all the prayers by y’all brainwashed folks Nigeria is the poverty headquarters of the world today, prayers don’t work.

I’ll reply you properly in the afternoon when I’m less busy,until then direct your further mentions to small-minded bumpkins like yourself.
Aaaha!

Mr. Liar= this statement I made was directed at Elder0001, Na U don dey Thief Am, say na me ask you whether you wan live for Banana Island! Liar and Thief!

So therefore, Mr. Liar and Thief, I say this to you.

For You and People Like You, No Prayer, No Intercession, No Pleading or Begging WILL EVER BE ANSWERED NOR YOUR PETITION GRANTED!

That is One Of the Laws of Answered Prayers.

Go elsewhere and find who shall grant you all the desires of your heart.

Aha, you need a Genie! So anytime you see an Old lantern, Rub it, may be you would find in it a Genie that would give you, your 3 wishes!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 9:19am On Jun 29, 2020
atheistandproud:
Funnily enough, for them to be this aggressive, the post hit hard to him.

grin grin grin grin
Are you hiding behind him?

But I challenged you up there, you run Kon hide for hin Yansh? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 9:15am On Jun 29, 2020
hakeem4:
okay I can’t keep up this discussion with you. If you want to know more about evolution try and read books about it and see the glaring evidence

With what you wrote up there you just proved evolution right that you’re just half a chromosome from being a chimpanzee
grin Omo, see take oofff! See How he runs, breaking speed records as he goes.

He is presently rising at 160km/h and from the sound of his engine, I think he can get past 200km/h.

He does, He is Now at 290km/h but he does not seem to be slowing down soon, that means he's go past 300km/h.

He does, he's actually at 490km/h folks and he is seems he's just getting warned up.

Oh folks, what a run, what a race, he's now approaching the sound barrier and we can no longer hear the sound of his engine as he wheezes by, breaking all speed limits and records.

Whoow! What a run, he is even heading to the speed of light, oh no, I can't take it anymore, he's gonna break the speed of light.

He does, he does, he does break the speed of light, oh what a morning, oh what a Glorious Day, I can not believe this even though I am seeing it.

Wow, what a Run, what a Great Run!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 8:59am On Jun 29, 2020
Maximus69:
Chai, why do you guys pity them nah?
Why not give him the blow of a lifetime?

Just ask him if we all evolve,
What are they now crying for?
Why not wait for evolution to continue? What are they pestering others for?
Are they now expecting something else rather than for us to continue evolving until we reach another stage?


"! cheesy
grin Me Like!

grin grin Me Like very much!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 8:45am On Jun 29, 2020
hakeem4:
we all evolved.

This begs the question who created god ?
grin See, Counter Attack, You First!

It's your claim, you prove first!

Are you saying that you did not create yourself but you evolved, for you said you do not have a Creator?

So evolution is your Creator?

Because I did not evolve and so I see for everyone around and around the world, so therefore, are you different from us, who did not evolve?

Because I am sure you have a birth certificate, It is Woman who shitted you out after kerewa with a man not necessarily your Papa, even your name, you no get, na Person give you.

Oya start to dey Lie dey go!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 8:41am On Jun 29, 2020
truespeak:
Because things are Not going well for you, atheists, that's why you cry and say God does not answer prayers and "that there is no God".

You thought the Mighty God would do whatever you like whenever you turn to him.

grin There is more hope of finding a genie that would grant you 3 wishes than of Him Ever listening nor hearing you!
Imagine!

They, think God is Begging for them to Come to Him so that He Could Do them Good things, so they are doing shakara!

Stupid People and Foolish are They!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 8:36am On Jun 29, 2020
hakeem4:
I do not have a creator! I do not know much about him, neither do you
cool Eheen! you created thyself? How did you Create thyself?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 8:09am On Jun 29, 2020
Aha! No one? No Comments? Hakeem I saw you down there now, Where are all the atheist Running their Mouths here?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 8:03am On Jun 29, 2020
hakeem4:
no special pleading here.

What do you mean by higher realm?

Omniscient knowing everything.
Omnipresent Everywhere at every time
Omnipotent having unlimited power.

Can god create a rock he cannot lift ?
Lift? Why would he waste His Strength when by His Commands, it is Done?

Did you not hear that He Commanded the earth to Swallow Them up, and the earth Obeyed as Commanded?

Or did you hear that the Mountains Fled from His Presence?

Or Did you Not Hear, that the Rocks Open their Mouths to Praise Him?

Like I said, you do not know your Creator!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:55am On Jun 29, 2020
atheistandproud:
The questions are all there. Up there.

Answer them one by one as you comprehend and assimilate.

Superior kwanu? Whatever you're smoking sha...
A Liar and A Thief and A Murderer Always Requires Many Houses! The Wicked Findeth No Place to Rest!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:53am On Jun 29, 2020
atheistandproud:
And you could not provide a simple answer to any one.

Eyaaah.

I can multitask, can you?
A Liar, A Thief and A Murderer, Always Requires The Need of Many Houses

Good and Truth Dwell Safely in Their House, even though it be Single!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:42am On Jun 29, 2020
CAPSLOCKED:
DELUSIONAL PEOPLE THINK THEY ALREADY HAVE ALL THE TRUTH ON EARTH IN THE BIBLE (AND KORAN) AND IN THIER PREACHER'S WORDS.
TO THESE PEOPLE, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS EXCEPT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN INDOCTRINATED WITH.
The Truth Standeth as A Rock Forever and No One, not even you Can Change it!

You are Welcome to Try!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:39am On Jun 29, 2020
Elder0001:
As expected,no answer. grin
He can not answer but I have answered already. Check my reply to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:36am On Jun 29, 2020
hakeem4:
Well, god cannot be omniscient and omnipresent at the same time. it is logically incoherent. it is like calling someone a married bachelor.

the sooner we tell ourselves the truth that prayers solve nothing the better for us
You Do Not know Your Creator! He who man and woman, left hand and right hand, up and down, solid, liquid, gases, visible and invisible!

You do not know Him, so it would be better and much preferable that you do not speak of what you do not know, lest Shame Come Upon thee!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:31am On Jun 29, 2020
Elder0001:
You need to be taken to a psychiatrist hospital ASAP.
grin grin it was a proverb to you, was it not? I have uncovered it anyway!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:28am On Jun 29, 2020
Elder0001:
Assuming prayers truly work 90% of Nigerians would be billionaires in dollars and Nigeria would be better than China but unfortunately,prayers don’t work. What works is hard work and consistency.
If wishes were cars, you would be living in Banana Island. But they are not.

It is not Meant to be That Way, It is Never Ever Going To Be That Way!

And that is not how the children of God Pray!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:24am On Jun 29, 2020
CAPSLOCKED:
NOTHING DESCRIBES DOUBTS ABOUT GOD'S PERFECT PLAN LIKE PRAYERS.
Who needs prayers, wishes and desires to be granted, is it not man?

Does God need to pray to Himself?

Who Can Do, and Undo, InDo and OutDo, is it Not the Lord?

If you no want any good thing or you choose to wait for the good things to come meet you, Na Your Own Be Dat!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:17am On Jun 29, 2020
Hakeem12:
When I see the world right now and the ills happening in it, I think it's safe to say we are alone and on our own.

The holocaust itself is a glaring indication that nobody is looking out for anyone. If God is omniscient, clearly he knows the hocaust would happen before it did, he allowed it to happen, that's one. Now while it was happening, he watched thousands of his people massacred, he was there, since he is omnipresent, still he did nothing.

That same dude made man imperfect according to the holy books, and would still purnish man for their imperfections. Simple logic shows this makes zero sense. Our resident folks would tell us not to apply logic when it comes to things of the spirit, rather take it on by blind faith, by belief, total nonsense. Why would a being create people perfectly capable of seeing through his incompetence?

The recent pandemic that's happening, someone said God's showing how powerful he is. I have never seen him do something beneficient to show his power, only death and destruction. I guess it's safe to say Hitler is his equal.

If you think the current crises Yemen is undergoing is in any way humane, and why has turned a blind eye to it is okay, it defeats the whole purpose of having a Skye daddy watch over us. The narcissism exhibited by religious people irks me. They survive accidents and go to their places of worship to give testimonials, very selfish and stupid acts.

You can't negotiate with a psychopath
Of course You are Alone, You Are Harvesting and Eating What you planted!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:14am On Jun 29, 2020
Elder0001:
They’ll say that’s how god wanted it to happen. grin
I always ask them “where was your God when uyai was being raped and eventually killed inside a church?” And they’ll come up with rubbish answers.
A god that can’t protect his followers isn’t he useless? cheesy
Religious folks are very very deluded I swear.
And we told you that since you Rejected God, He has Rejected you too!

And now you All Must Eat the Fruits of Your own Farm, since you planted without listening to Him, You Must Reap, Without Him listening to you!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 7:03am On Jun 29, 2020
atheistandproud:
You have made zero sense. Please go back and relearn English comprehension sir. You need it
grin you did not get it grin

How can 1 query, have 12 Other Queries, Placed Within it?

And not that the 12 Queries are Connected to Each Other oh, Neither do they have Nexus to the Posted Query.

And in your mind you are Rational!

Head to Exam Room 1, Your Doctor is Waiting to Receive You There grin!
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help, Do We Have Unforgivable Sins? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:47pm On Jun 28, 2020
bloomstar:
Thanks so much for this,

And thanks to everyone who commented on this thread. I am greatly impressed and happy to know i have not forsaken my lord and maker. Yea we commit sin, we are human but we have to try to be better.
Am grateful
Wow, a gentleman in nairaland, nice.

We are glad to render our sincere help!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Futility Of Prayers And Trying To "Change God's Mind" by Dtruthspeaker: 9:43pm On Jun 28, 2020
atheistandproud:
As a child I was taught in Bible school as well as by a man, Uncle Chris, a dedicated JW who taught me the Bible thrice every week that God was omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

Omniscient means knowing every thing. To quote a verse, "he that seeth the end from the beginning".

Omnipresent means being everywhere at once. "His spirit moved across the length and breadth of the land searching for one good man".

Anyway according to the same Bible in Job, Satan is also omnipresent as well. Lol.

Then you have omnipotent or all powerful.

These three features are fundamental godlike properties that are only ascribed to the ultimate deity of the Christian pantheon.

Christians have always claimed two conflicting positions.

1. Not knowing the mind of their favourite deity.

2. Knowing what he wants.

Those who have observed very well will tell you that these are interestingly used in varying situations as a cop out from difficult questions and situations.

If YHWH is omniscient and he has a plan and his plan is good, when you pray for something different, you're essentially asking him (hypothetically, that's if he exists) to change his mind. Do you honestly believe as a mere mortal, you know better than the supreme deity of the Christian pantheon so much as to even think his plan is wrong and yours is right? So if you don't know as well as god does, isn't prayer futile?

If your plan and god's are in the same line? Doesn't it make it prayer a pointless effort as god's will is going to be done regardless?

Finally, in the larger picture or on the grand scheme of things, the earth on which we live in is in a backwater solar system on the far side of the galaxy. Do you think that if a supreme galactic overlord exists, a tiny human can change his mind?

God is not perfect, he actually regretted that he had created humans in genesis. Did the all seeing and all knowing dude fail to see the future? That means he's no omniscient then.

Can we imagine now, for example that the lady who was killed in church, that was god's plan for her life from birth because well... mysterious ways blah blah blah?

Don't you think that she believed god loved her too and that bad things are not her portion?

Let me finish with Epicurus...
Blablablablabla!

See how uncoordinated you are, and how you have claimed so many lands to stand? Ole! Thief! You for kukumah claim the whole world now! You be Tifu! In Julius Agwu voice!

First, "futility of Prayer/ changing God's Mind."

Then "God was omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent".

Then "Job, Satan, omnipresent, omnipotent or all powerful".

Then "fundamental godlike properties".

Then "two conflicting positions."

Then "prayer again saying "isn't prayer futile?"

Then "backwater solar system on the far side of the galaxy."

Then "God is not perfect,"

Then "god's plan for her life from birth"

Then, "she believed god loved her too"

Then, "finish with Epicurus"

Wow, it's finished at last!

See this baby rebel that is standing on each question for every month of the year, in one post!

And he is already running in all directions even before they have said "Runners, on your marks!"

Men, he is disqualified from the race immediately.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help, Do We Have Unforgivable Sins? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:43pm On Jun 28, 2020
bloomstar:
What about this ones

And define on a lay man language what you mean by blasphemy for clear understanding
Blasphemy simply means Wrongful Insult, Ridicule, Mockings, Abuses and Defamation Directed at the Holy and Good God, Who Has Only Done Good Good Things, Wrongfully blasting and broadcasting and Saying that He is wicked or even evil and that He Does wicked things, when in Truth, He has never Done A single Little Wrong!

It is exactly as you Must Feel when you are Wrongfully Accused of A crime that was in Truth, even impossible for you to have committed, yet the whole world has heard about the crime you are alleged to have committed, and they are making noises about it!

Remember, it was not very easy to forgive the person or persons who put you through this ordeal when your Innocence finally came forth!

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