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Martinez39s:
The bible clearly stated that one should ask and one shall receive. It also stated again that whatsoever a man asks of god in prayer believing, he shall receive. The bible made it clear and simple: ask, believe, and receive. How then is it stupid or out of place for an amputee to ask for the restoration of his amputated limb? Rather than admit the bible is wrong, you make up excuses and foist additional meanings and interpretations on the bible, all for the aim of self-deception.

In your mind you have asked hard questions.
Because no impediment can stop a human being from accomplishing things.

Martinez39s:
Adqdressing your laughable excuses on why god doesn't (or perhaps can't ) restore amputated limbs, I would like to ask how you as a christian can compare something supposedly made in god's image to a chicken. How can you compare something Jesus supposedly suffered and died for to a chicken? If Jesus, who does the will of god always, can grant lepers, lame folks, deaf folks, the blind, folks with withered limbs, etc their miracles, how is it stupid, or against the will of god, to grant an amputee his/her missing limb(s)? By your own logic, shouldn't Jesus have ignored those people because their ailments didn't stop them from being human beings? shouldn't Jesus have ignored them since he made them strong in their defects, and life could be sweet for them if they wanted it to be? You make me laugh

Because in the eyes of Mr Toyoda, there is no difference between Starlet and Tundra.

Martinez39s:
By the way, how is the restoration of an amputated limb(s) an unnecessary thing or vanity? Are you serious? See how insensitive, callous, and detached from reality your religion has made you become? So if Mr. James is a surgeon that feeds his family (a stay-at-home wife, and two young kids) from his salary, and he had his two hands amputated in an accident, do you think the restoration of his limb is unnecessary and a vanity to any sane god/human?

It is no different from those who have lost their jobs in Nigeria Today.

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Hermes119:
Nawa ooh

This is something we see all the time

In a bid to defend irrational beliefs you always run into problems

Look at a sane human being saying that an amputee wishing for his limb to be restored is unnecessary and even called hum an idiot and even went ahead to compare that to a chicken, so to you a human losing his limb is no better than a chicken losing its limb
wooow

I'm disappointed

Be Disappointed. You never appointed me!

Hermes119:
Did u ask God to bring back the Chibok girls ?
Answer sincerely

I Always Answer sincerely, so, No, I did not and will not!

Hermes119:
God exists but u are the one doing the talking defending him

Yeah, I'm His Lawyer

LordReed:
I doubt that, chance might be another god of greater power because chance doesn't need your pathetic prayers.

It is a god over you and all men, But His Boss, is My Very Very Close Friend, Chance and I, we are very familiar with each other for we've done a lot of things together!

GRIMMJOE:
What is the intent of your religion?

Tueh! I do no shit called religion. Religion is a Fraud and a Lie!

LordReed:
Yeah he is as mighty as chance.

Ha! Do you not know Mr Chance Works for Him?

Wakeupchristian:
But I can assure you it is not a safe ground to tread.

Try and Shake My Ground!

What shall it profit you if you all the wicked people in your family and indeed the whole world should die? Or if all the wicked people in the world should die in their wickedness,

Plenty!
Plenty Profits, 1) More Lands for me 2) i can sleep with my door unlocked 3)I will not fear harm coming to my daughter and children 4) let me stop here.

Wakeupchristian:
who will you preach to?

I have known these things for years and I have been doing them quietly, in my quiet piece of earth that the Lord has Given Me.

I thought there were people like me out there (and there were) but, now they are gone. And now I see that people Truly Believed the Foolish Shit and Lies that Spewed out of the Church (and I am truly shocked that people truly believed all those shits) and I saw that my Nigerian people, Shall Truly Die because of their Stupidity, Greed and want-want and Plenty Foolishness.

And I saw that they do not even know that they are Stupid and very Foolish, That's Why LReed, HPagan, Sabrina and All the other Antichrists A.K.A Atheists Shall Eat them up, Swallow them whole and shit them out, as fresh and hot Shit Baby Antichrists A.K.A Baby Atheist.

So therefore, to give you all Another Chance at Obtaining Life, Escaping Guaranteed Death and Obtaining the Plentiful Mercies of God which you are already enjoying but you are wasting it.

I therefore speak and I therefore stand up and stand out, so you can see with your own eyes AND Test by all diligence, and bear witness to the Truth that All that is written in the Bible Are True and Can Be Done By You, if you truly want to.

So you can reject it and choose to die, I Am Fine and I will be Fine.

Or you can Try to do what the Bible Recommends (for it is not by force) and choose to Live, I Am Fine and I will be Fine either way!

Your choice!

Wakeupchristian:
Christ did not come for the righteous but for the wicked.
There is nothing else to address. As a free will agent, you reserve the right to choose what you want. The message has been given. Its up to you to accept or reject it.

I was a sinner and in foolishness like you, so I know and understand all the shits that Must fall on Sinners and Foolish People.

But I saw wise men and their ways. And I saw that they have a different result from mine, which was the same as everyone else around me.

And I wanted their results, so I Tasted and I saw, I Tried and I Understood, hence without a second lost and straightway, I made up my mind That I Must Have What They Have For I Saw That It Was Good, not just Good but VERY GOOD AND SWEEET!

That is the meaning of that parable the Lord Taught of the man who findeth a Field, Filled with much Treasure, Buried in it, Went home and sold All that he had to buy the field and he so bought the field.

The Choice is Yours.

Wakeupchristian:
Thanks a lot for all the comments.
I understand from all you said, that you are trying to defend what you indulge in. But I can assure you it is not a safe ground to tread. What shall it profit you if you all the wicked people in your family and indeed the whole world should die? Or if all the wicked people in the world should die in their wickedness, who will you preach to?
Christ did not come for the righteous but for the wicked.
There is nothing else to address. As a free will agent, you reserve the right to choose what you want. The message has been given. Its up to you to accept or reject it.

Trying to defend?

I am not on trial here. I AM VERY VERY FINE AND MIGHTILY FULL OF THANKS ETERNALLY TO GOD FOR GIVING ME ABRAHAM'S BLESSINGS AND THE EARTH IS VERY VERY SWEET TO ME AND MY SOUL!

so, there is nothing to defend, rather it is my honest desire that all men, especially my Nigerian People, would enter into this Good Place and see that God is Indeed and in Truth Good.

There is more than enough for everyone and it can never be exhausted that is why Christ fed the thousands and the 2 boat sinking catch means.

There is enough Goodness to go round and remain, BUT ONLY and ONLY, ONLY, if you truly Understand that there is no escaping Him either for good or for bad, Hence Another Proof of God.

But it is your choice to make!

Martinez39s:
If a man prays to god to restore his amputated limb, we atheists know that such can't happen even his faith is 100% strong because god doesn't exist. However, any religiotard who doesn't have the mental fortitude to honestly admit this can foolishly tell the believing amputee "asking in faith means asking with wisdom, knowings and understanding and One More Big Element, Trusting in the Lord which is Knowing that God Must Do It" even if the amputee simply asked and believed like the bible asked him to. Such ambiguous excuse/nonsense can cunningly imply (or be supplemented with) "god is not a magician."

Let me ask you question, and don't run away from it. If a christian amputee asks god in faith (in the proper way) to restore his amputated limb, will it happen?

First, Amputee means he had a Limb and he lost it.

Now, the idiot prays and every other idiot prays to God for the restoration of his limb.

Why?

Do Chickens not lose a limb, did they stop being chickens or did you not read that every dove that we kill for every purpose, He knows?

He made us so strong that even if we have a defect, life will still be sweet, if you want it to be sweet?

So such miracles are not necessary and He is not A God who does The Unnecessaries and Vanities.

So, it is a Stupid Prayer that Shall ALMOST NEVER Be Answered!

But Foolish Man does not know and neither would his equally foolish pastor tell him.

Martinez39s:
Thou shall not tempt/test the Lord thy God. Happy are those who have not yet seen but believe (meaning that happy are those who foolishly follow like sheep with getting their facts right). Are atheists right when they say the bible contradicts itself?

Of course they are wrong.

Like you, they lack understanding (All men think or should think or are capable of thinking and arriving at a conclusion but Understanding is Given By the Lord Himself) and therefore, they foolishly say that the Bible contradicts itself.

Thou shall not tempt and test the Lord thy God are not the same thing.

Thou shall not tempt or test the Lord- in Nigerian English, It means Do Not Lay Traps for Him or you get one Bad Plan for mind or Cunnings, Deceits and Lies in your soul, for your mind, you think say He be like man say Him know go know!

What a very Foolish Man, you NEVER REMEMBER that God Always, Always Hears Your Thoughts (or Mind as you na dey take talk), Sees Your Minds and Even the best One, Your Mind Go Visit Am first, before E kom meet you.

So Fools keep trying to beat that.

Your pastor still no go tell you dis one.

test the Lord thy God- simply means Give Him A Try or Trial. In Nigerian English, it means say make you try Am make you see as E take be.

No contradictions.

And na una pastor duty to tell una dis things since say E talk say E dey hear from God!

Martinez39s:
Who told you that OP asked rudely? Did you see him ask rudely? Prayer doesn't work because the god one is praying to doesn't exist, as simple as that.

Who told you that the op was taught by a wrong pastor? Does one need a pastor or teacher to know what it means to ask and believe? It's as simple as ABC: ask, believe, and receive. Shikena; except you want to engage in self-deception. You people know that prayers don't work; instead of admitting it, you play mental gymnastics and deceive yourselves.

Everything that has been claimed to be achieved by prayer are things that either happen naturally or can be faked to appear that it was achieved by prayer. Go figure.

If a man prays to god to restore his amputated limb, we atheists know that such can't happen even his faith is 100% strong because god doesn't exist. However, any religiotard who doesn't have the mental fortitude to honestly admit this can foolishly tell the believing amputee "asking in faith means asking with wisdom, knowings and understanding and One More Big Element, Trusting in the Lord which is Knowing that God Must Do It" even if the amputee simply asked and believed like the bible asked him to. Such ambiguous excuse/nonsense can cunningly imply (or be supplemented with) "god is not a magician."

Let me ask you question, and don't run away from it. If a christian amputee asks god in faith (in the proper way) to restore his amputated limb, will it happen?




Thou shall not tempt/test the Lord thy God. Happy are those who have not yet seen but believe (meaning that happy are those who foolishly follow like sheep with getting their facts right). Are atheists right when they say the bible contradicts itself?

Yet mine IS ALWAYS ALWAYS AND ALWAYS ANSWERED and My Desires, Even That which I did not know to Ask was Given. And This is True.

Let me put it straight to you and everyone out there, without mincing words, playing up to your hopes and expectations and without regard to whomsoever is going to be hurt by it;

If You Do Not Listen to His Commandments, Understand Them so that You Can Correctly and Accurately Obey Them,

You Are Only Going To Manage The Sprinkles of His Great Goodness.

Abraham's Blessings Shall Not Be Yours.

And the Result is that You Must say that There is no God! Or That God Does Not Answer Prayers or Any Other Foolishness which Abounds plentifully in You All.

Test or try the spirits, not the uniform called religion

kingxsamz:

I like how you deceive yourself, it's hilarious.
Please present the question you asked.

When did I ask a question?

Martinez39s:
What exactly is your point? Didn't the bible say people should ask from God believing that they would receive?

The word is Ask.

Tell how were you trained to conduct yourself when making requests? Are we taught to ask Politely, Respectfully?

Were we not taught to Ask with Knowledge? Eg you just failed your exams yet you asked your father to "buy you a toy car" when he is coming back from work, tell me, did you get that you car?

Or someone has just bashed daddy's car, you heard but you did not care, so you went ahead and asked him for the Play Station he promised to buy for you, tell me what is going to be the outcome of that request?

Or your child requested for that nice Novel and you Promised to get it for him and after your promise, he continually demands for you to fulfill your Promise, tell me what is the natural outcome of that promise?

These and so many other scenarios play out in preventing the grant of a request or a petition.

Martinez39s:
If a Christian follows that promise and finds that his invisible almighty cannot deliver, shouldn't he question the existence of his god? You are trying to use the instrument of fear on the OP, the very same instrument with which religion flourishes

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The Almighty ALWAYS DELIVERS ON HIS PROMISES, the problem is your pastors, who themselves do not know, have taught you a wrong doctrine.

For asking in faith means asking with wisdom, knowings and understanding and One More Big Element, Trusting in the Lord which is Knowing that God Must Do It. Let me stop here.

Martinez39s:
Any GOD/idea that cannot be tested, scrutinised, or questioned doesn't deserve to be embraced. As it turns out, god doesn't exist.

, we beat you!

Even God said, "Taste (which also means test) and See that the Lord is Good".

kingxsamz:
He doesn't exist.
There's no magician up there ready to grant you wishes.
Ask anyone, they can't prove it.

You were there, yesterday and since Friday when I Stood Strong on Only One Ground I Presented and You and all of Your Yous Could Not Answer Me nor Take Me Down.

God was, is and Forever Established!

Let me duck, my early warning missile detection has been activated! Insults Incoming! "Brace for Impact"

LordReed:
This is exactly why religion is nothing more than wishful thinking. The percentage chance of happenings does not vary with belief or non belief.

Yeah, Religion is a Lie but The Lord God, is Mighty and True and Everlasting!!!

LawBreaker:
Does God really exist? I have been praying to God for one particular issue but am not getting answer, instead the situation gets messy. I am even tired and I am beginning to lose hope that pray truly works. I am beginning to lose trust that God exists and all that. Please correct if am wrong.

So God, your Creator is Your Personal Genie who owes you wishes that must be granted, eh?

The Most High is your servant, eh?

You no dey fear Abi? Your governor wey get right and power to take care of you, you even dey use fear and beg take dey beg am.

Na God, because He no dey talk too much and He Sabi Endure, you come even dey tink say He be your servant.

Abeg go find Another Person wey go answer your prayers, on His Behalf, I tell you say, we no go answer am again.

We can never be United in the True Doctrines of God, which The Lord Taught us, for Among Us, there Must be Those Who are with Us But Not of Us.

And these teach their own doctrines which are false as prophesied and not the True Unshakable and Everlasting Doctrines of God.

Wakeupchristian:
The order has changed! The order has changed from worshiping God in designated places like Jerusalem or the mountain, to worshiping Him in spirit and in truth(John 4:21-24). The order has changed from sacrificing animals and burning incense for atonement and worship, to presenting our bodies a living sacrifice holy and acceptable to God (Romans 12:1). Yes the order has changed from the instant killing of law offenders, an eye for an eye, to forgiveness and salvation through Christ. The order has changed from loving your neighbor and hating your enemy, to loving your enemy and blessing those who curse you ( Matthew 5:43-44). The grace Covenant is an order where salvation through Christ has replaced vengeance and the killing of law offenders.

Which of the laws did Christ come to fulfill and how did he fulfill it? Christ came to fulfill the moral laws, the ten commandments of God, not the laws of Moses. Isaiah described Jesus the Messiah as the faithful servant of God whose example would contrast that of the blind religious leaders of Israel, and who would magnify the law and make it honorable (Isaiah 42:1-21). What does it mean to magnify the law and make it honorable?

When you view an object under a magnifier, it becomes bigger and clearer. To magnify the law means that Jesus came to amplify and make God's commandments clearer. In other words He came to show us a better way of obeying them. Jesus confirmed this in His sermon on the mount. On the issue of adultery for example He said, " you have heard that it was said, you shall not commit adultery, but I say to you, that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart ( Matthew 5:27-28). This law was not unfolded in this manner in the old testament. Notice that instead of amplifying the laws of Moses, Christ made them obsolete. Where Moses advocated vengeance, or a tit for tat, Christ encouraged peace, forgiveness and love (Matthew 5:38-44).

If Christ amplified the law of God to aid its fulfillment, what then does Paul imply in his statement, " the ministration of death has been done away with?" (2Corinthians 3:7).
To be continued.

The Convenant has not Changed and you have lots of Issues I raised up, Up there for you to Address.

And I have not gone through this last paragraph to raise up more, but I am hinging any issues there on the belief that they are Founded on Those Fundamental Issues which you raised and I have raised certain issues contained in them, for you to address.

Wakeupchristian:
If you are one of those who still rely on the laws of Moses to destroy, or pray for the wicked to die

I am one of them and we are not "Praying" for the Wicked to Die, We Are Clearly Saying That The Wicked Shall Die and Must Die and Should Die, if they do not want to do that which is Good Alone.

They Must Die and We Agree and Allign with God, Who Himself, Hates Wickedness and Evil, That THEY MUST DIE if They Do Not Want To Be Doing Only Good.

And of course, God, Who did not Spare Mighty Angels, who were working Closely With Him, Probably See Him, And are Bigger and Higher than Man and whom, when we see them, We Greatly Fear, is it now powerless man, that God shall fear to Eternally Punish him as He Shall do to His Angels, As He Said He Shall Do?

Wakeupchristian:
I call to you to repent and follow the examples and teachings of the author and finisher of the Christian faith, Jesus Christ.

While in agony on the cross, He prayed for His enemies, not against them (Luke 23:34). In His sermon on the mount He taught men to love their enemies and bless those who curse them(Matthew 5:44).

It is Written "he who is not sick, does not require a physician". So also he who has done no Wrong, does not require Repentance.

Wakeupchristian:
The civil laws which stipulated an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth were overtaken by the forgiveness Christ taught.

First, this not A Civil Law but Criminal Law for it was Placed Among those Offences and Sins which we Naturally call evil and form what we call in todays tongue, Crimes!

Flowing therefrom, are you saying that Christ abolished, crimes?

Wakeupchristian:
The love and grace of Christ in the new Covenant is the reason why disobedient children, adulterers, idolaters, witches, sodomites and the likes are no longer killed as stipulated in the law of Moses.

When did Christ say this? Please Prove, because I saw the Woman with the Alabaster Box, Beg Very Very Very Well, Before Christ finally forgave her!

Please ehn, where is thy Proof?

Wakeupchristian:
Every offender of God's law is given a chance to repent in the grace Covenant. Christ showed us an example when He gave the adulterous woman who was liable to death in the Mosaic law a chance to repent (John 8:11).

I Object and Strongly Disagree!
"Every offender of God's law is given a chance to repent in the grace Covenant", is this also not provided in the "Old Law"?

Shall a Righteous Judge Not Judge Righly, in that an offender who is willing to repent, shall the Judge in Righteousness or Rightness not permit him, grace to repent?

And is it not also Provided in the Law, what he must do to Remedy and Complete his Repentance?

Wakeupchristian:
. The death of Jesus Christ brought the dawn of a new Covenant with a change in the system of administration. For example the ceremonial laws of atonement and worship, whose primary purpose was to foreshadow Christ, became unnecessary after Jesus made Himself the last sacrifice.

That word "forshadow" what do you mean by it in this context?

Does it mean because The Lord, has come upon the earth, it would no longer be necessary to worship God, the Most High?

Further, by your description of the ceremonial laws of atonement and worship, can you truly say it changed, in that it is in Truth different from the Commandment Because it Departed from it?

Because I can Prove that the Lord Never Departed or Deviated from it. It is Rather that He Even Complied with it. E.g the Obvious One, The Law of the Holy-Days called Sabbath!

Wakeupchristian:
The burning of incense which produced the sweet aroma to attract God's presence in the old order also became unnecessary.

How and why?

Are you saying that God died Because The Lord came to earth? Or that God now, no longer has need of His Due Love, Devotion and the Appreciation of His Good Works Done to the Children of men, which we call Praise?

ADDENDUM!
Is that not why we sing today,
"May Our Praises Rise As Incense, Oh Lord, to You!
May Our Worship Be A Fragrance, Oh Lord, to You" by Bob Fitts?

Or are you saying that it is no longer necessary for God to visit man, since the Lord has come?

Or which other explanation of the why and how, do you have, based on your statement?

Wakeupchristian:
The sacrifice for worship in the grace Covenant is a living sacrifice, not that of animals and incense. It is the sacrifice of a righteous and holy living through the message of Jesus Christ. This is what attracts God's presence to us.

How is this different from the Commandment? Is it not rather Complying with the Commandment, which States Clearly, "An Unblemished Lamb"?

Wakeupchristian:
Every new Covenant comes with a change in the system of administration of the former.

Bros, which Convenant has ever brought a change of Administration of the former?

I do not know of any Covenant ever doing that, it is rather that God from Abraham, (which actually Started with Noah but was Improved with Abraham), Always Stated and Restated The Covenant, which Through out the Bible Until The Lord came, It is Not Stated that the Convenant is Repealed or It has been Voided or Terminated!

Wakeupchristian:
In His sermon on the Mount Christ said, "Think not that I have come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill the law" (Matthew 5:17). This statement has generated some controversies among believers in recent times. While some people believe that the old Covenant and its practices still apply to the Church today, others are of the opinion that they have completely been made obsolete.

To get this matter straightened, we will take this message in two parts. Part one will first endeavor to separate between the laws that operated in the old Covenant. Then it will reveal which law Christ came to fulfill and how He fulfilled it. Finally it will disclose whether or not, the law still applies to the Church. Part two will throw some light on the misunderstandings made from certain expressions of Paul which have helped to make this subject more complex.

There are basically three laws that operated in the old Covenant. These are the moral laws or the ten commandments, usually referred to as the law of God, and the ceremonial and the civil laws known as the laws of Moses.

The law of God, the ten commandments, is the fundamental framework of how mankind is to relate with God and with each other. These laws were written and engraved on stones by the finger of God (Exodus 24:12, 31:18, 32:16). God instructed Moses to place them inside the ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25:16, 21). Being engraved on stones symbolizes that they are permanent for all Ages. This means that they apply to all people and at all times.

This part above is beautiful and very sweet!

Wakeupchristian:
On the other hand the laws of Moses, the ceremonial and civil laws are the instructions God reeled out to Moses to enable him direct the Israelites. In other words they were the system of administration of God's law at the time. The ceremonial laws encompassed directions on atonement, cleansing, worship, etc, while the civil laws stipulated regulations on justice and punishment for offenders of the ten commandments. These laws were written by the hand of Moses and placed in the side of the ark, not into the ark (Deuteronomy 31:24-26). The fact that the laws of Moses were not engraved on stones and were not put into the ark of the Covenant signifies that they were subject to change. This means that the system of administration given to Moses, that is the ceremonial and civil laws, were specifically meant for the Jews of that dispensation.

Now, this part, this is also applauded, save the error at the end, where you say the ceremonial and civil laws are meant specifically for the Jews.

I agree that they are meant for the Jews but first, by the Convenant God had with Abraham, the families of the earth are supposed to learn from the House of Abraham and do same with such modifications and variations as is necessary to Comply with the Law given to Abraham's House.

Secondly, which Administration or Government can be as Great, not to talk of even being Greater, than the Administration of God, Through Moses?

Which civil and criminal laws can be greater than these?

Or the ceremonial laws, are they not meant to Instruct us on we may Comply with the First Commandment that we "Love The Lord" by Doing that which He Would Find Acceptable and which Pleases Him, instead of trying to guess what God would like, without these instructions?

I Do say None, No, Not One!

That is my humble Submission!

Do you not know that the markets Atheist and Anti-Christs must shop is the "Christian market", to buy Christians?

Do you not know that the majority of them both are fallen Christians?

So they definitely know how to entrap you and finally "buy" you, with knowledge and understanding, skills and cunning fashioned in Wickedness!

And if you do not send them away before they open their evil mouths, they will swallow you whole like the grave, that they are!

Sin means Trespass which means Breach which further means Offence.

In other words

Sin=Trespass=Breach=Offence!

MrPresident1:
Bro Dtruthspeaker, please next time quote the verses directly so that other people who are reading can get it immediately, this is your public service. Let me put the verses here for you

2Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

The angels are in hell because they sinned. God cast them into hell. Do you know that Jesus went to hell too?

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

I put vs 14 as an additional verse. Hell and the dead here is the nations that forgot God. As you know, the nations that forget God will be cast into hell.

When Jesus returns there will be no more death and hell for the redeemed.

But that is when hell will begin for evildoers and the wicked people

Thanks for the assistance.

Ok I just appreciated your view when I said hell part 1.

I was simply adding that their hell also begins even right here on earth, even while they yet live, which I also had in mind as hell Part 1.

As an aside, my neighbour once told me of a man who died, that if you see his face eh, one Comes to the conclusion that he was taken to hell.

I do not know if you've ever seen or heard of such an event before?

MrPresident1:
Bro Dtruthspeaker, you agreed with me about hell in count one because I used Scriptures to back my points.

Then you introduced count two. Could you please back up your count two with adequate Scriptures?

''Hell Part 2 takes place after people do what we call dying or dead!''

Is the quote in Jude not enough? Ok take 2 Peter 2:4. And hold Revelation 20:13 for body.

DO YOU SEE HOW THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO STAND IN A SURE FOUNDATION?

SEE HOW THEY RUN HERE AND THERE?

SEE HOW THEY LAMENT AND THEY CRY?

EVEN IN LAUGHTER THE HEART IS SORROWFUL; AND THE END OF THAT MIRTH IS HEAVINESS. Proverbs 14:13

"On Christ the Solid Rock I stand, All other grounds is Sinking Sands, All other grounds is Sinking Sands"

Psalms 9

I will praise thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvellous works.

2 I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou most High.

3 When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy presence.

4 For thou hast maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne judging right.

5 Thou hast rebuked the heathen, thou hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast put out their name for ever and ever.

6 O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them.

7 But the Lord shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment.

8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.

9 The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, Lord, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

11 Sing praises to the Lord, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings

Psalm 119:89
Lamedh.
Forever, O Lord,
Your word is settled in heaven.

1 Peter 1:25
But the word of the Lord endures forever.”
And this is the word which was preached to you.

Psalm 119:160
The sum of Your word is truth,
And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting.

Psalm 111:8
They are upheld forever and ever;
They are performed in truth and uprightness.

Psalm 33:11
The counsel of the Lord stands forever,
The plans of His heart from generation to generation.

Psalm 117:2
For His lovingkindness is great toward us,
And the truth of the Lord is everlasting.
Praise the Lord!

These Are Eternal-Truths!!