₦airaland Forum

PHijo:
I won't waste your time with you!
Just as Chief Asari-Dokubo said you Igbo are and will the slaves of Ijaw. He also told you about Ijaw priesthood and lands scattered across were you now call Igbo states.

Igbo never had an organised society not talk of an organised religion. You are trying to provoke someone to educate you on the difference between owu and oru.

As an Ijaw from Rivers I know you Igbos too well. That why I never responded on the ethnic groups that are Oru.

You are lucky Adaka Boro answered you. This one sentence you heard from him, you've tried to put a spin on it.

It is this propaganda that will send you packing.

Oru that most Igbos can't even pronounce is what you want claim now!

The early Dutch and British explorers called you Ijaws dwarfish. In the history of Bonny, they recorded that slaves from Brass were brought in to help the Okoloma (Ndoki) man their canoe.
Even Asari Igbo ancestor ruled over their Ijaw slaves.

If all the Kings from Amakiri of Kalabari to the King in Okrika, Nembe and up to Bonny had Igbo heritage, it means that they ruled over their Ijaw slaves.

PHijo:
To claim we came with the Portuguese just tells how mad you are!

I don't think case can be handled by Yabaleft.

The only ethnic group in Nigeria that was recorded as back packers and errand boys of the English were the Igbo. This happened less than 200 years ago.

There has no reference to the Ijaw as Jos. You chose to lie in a bid to pretend you know a few things.

The Portuguese had interaction with the Ijaw for up to 400 hundred years before you Igbo were discovered. Even when discovered it took over 300 years before Europeans gain direct access to you and when they did, your ignorance and greed destroyed the economy of that part of the world.

Why then did you not have any history until the coming of the Portuguese? Can you name any Ijaw ancient artefacts? Is your language related to any language in the south? It's on record that the Ijaws are the only group in the south living in the Mangrove. Ijaw were also the only southern group that relied on fishing for survival because you were never known for farming. Ijaw are also the only group that copied the European dressing. Everything about you is foreign.

The Portuguese might have interacted late with the Igbo hinterlands but they had trade dealings with the Igbos that lived near the Atlantic. The same way they had dealings and recorded the history of the Efiks was the same way they recorded the history of the likes of Bonny etc.

AdakaBoro8:
now i see. you are the source of the stupidity... you blown out anything that come into your mind.. none of ibo practices can be compared to that of ORU.. all our forbidden things are that of the Oru.. none of the ibo forbidden is near to Oru.. Oru has no meaning in ibo.. but Oru means two great things in IJAW.. (1)Oru means gods in Ijaw... (2)Oru means ancient in Ijaw. so what heck you talking about?

Why won't Oru mean god in Ijaw when you worshipped the ancient Oru who you met in the territory you settled. Oru are humans that you Ijaws gave godlike attributes.

1. Oru/Olu has different meanings in Igbo language.

2. The incantations, mask, masquerades of the Oru are all Igbotic.

3. Owu which you Ijaws termed Owu-Ogbo is Igbo. The Oru’s of Oguta founded this festival that you Ijaws borrowed.

4. Oru might mean ancient in your language which is a pointer that you met people in the place you now call Ijawland.

5. The ancient Oru had to settle permanently in the area now called Ndokwa/Oguta/Ndoni/Oru/Olumbanasa because the likes of the Benin, Igala and you Ijaws were always migrating into their communities.

PHijo:
As an indigene of Rivers, if not for cyberspace I would have put you in your place! Later when we start will crying yehn yehen. They allow people from other states. Are not fellow Nigerians?

That is how you claimed the North because people like Azikiwe and Ojukwu were born there!

You don't want Rivers to rest. I think you ran from North to Rivers state. Where will you run to next? Jerusalem, I believe.

Anybody can claim to be an indigene of Rivers state. After all even those wey mount Batcha for Bundu dey claim Rivers. Aboki can claim too if him get Butcher shed for Diobu. Ipob sef dey claim Oyigbo. Why?

Because Rivers doesn't discriminate. We tolerate everyone. You lots now have your Bayelsa state, I don't know wetin una still dey find for P/H.

PHijo:
The Oru word has been used in Egypt/ Sudan( the Nile Delta) and the Niger Delta for centuries before you Jewish wannabes called Igbo were discovered by the British crown.

The internet is replete with your true identity. It was the Portuguese that gave you your name and identity. Jos was the name the Portuguese called you which you localized to Izons because you have no “J” in your alphabet.

Some Jos aka Izons might be claiming Oru heritage to give your migrant status a bit of indigenous link, but you're not. You lots were invaders who came with the Portuguese. This is why land grabbing is part of your DNA.

PHijo:
To start with, Igbo people's opinion doesn't even count in your 5 landlocked states so keep your unbridled ignorance to yourself or you share some of it with Hope Uzodinma if he would willing to listen.

On how many occasions would we have to remind you that Igbo people are on Igalaland, Ijawland, Ogoniland, Ibibioland, Annangland etc. The owners are tired of your shenanigans.

I don't discuss issues with a Bayelsa man. All Ijaws have been given a state in Bayelsa. Any Ijaws you find in P/H is a migrant.

AdakaBoro8:
ewoo! somebody please save me from this hilarious joke.. oru has become ibo again? chai una heritage grabbing come worst oo diz tym.. they dont just called u people yeebos for nothing.

Which historical account recorded Ijaws as Oru? None. Don't confuse the Igbo slangs that tend to call every sea living inhabitant from the Niger to the Delta as Oru.

The Oru/Olu have always been Igbo who lived from upper Niger down to the Atlantic swamps. Yes, their population was threatened thanks to Portuguese who brought and armed Togolese migrants to populate their territories.

PHijo:
Don't mind her! The deputy governor of Rivers state is also Ijaw. Out of 3 senators representing Rivers, 2 are Ijaw, 1 is Ogoni.

Oga there are no Ijaws in Rivers state. This Bayelsa man how many time are we going to tell you guys this.

AdakaBoro8:
i dont know about ur oru or olu.. but the ORU am talking about is an ancient tribe of africa. the (H)Oru is an isolated tribe which all it culture, practice, attitude, lifestyles total different from the rest.. all these H Oru cultures, practices, attitudes, etc are what Ijaw still practicing today... use your google for your help.

Any Oru cultures Ijaw practice today is borrowed. Oru has always been Igbos living close to the water bodies. Even before Ijaws left their Togolese homeland by following early Portuguese ships to the Niger-Delta, Oru maintained their cultures.

Ijaws in Bayelsa and Delta might want to claim Oru but they are not. Oru know themselves not immigrant from Togo. Oru are originally Igbos before Ijaws, Benin and Igala migrants sailed with their canoes to mix with the pure bloods.

If I were Ijaws, I’ll start looking at tracing my origins in Volta/Togo. It was on record that the Portugues brought with them not only Christianity and farm produce, but also Togolese swamp dwellers. From names, language to blackness, everything Ijaw smell Togo/Ghana.

ChinenyeN:
[s]This is the reason why I left the politics section, because you people are hopeless. The British created hard ethnic lines that did not exist before and you people have been running crazy with it ever since.



And saying a lot of wrong things in the process. So what does that tell me? They are willing to lie, just to discredit Ijaw. It’s Ijawphobia. The same way Alagoa was willing to fabricate things just to diminish the idea of Igbo in Bonny’s history (Igbophobia). None of you want to be honest about culture, history and language. You all just want to find ways to weaponize it as politics for yourselves. As if it will change anything in your present day.



OP did not rationally deduce anything. Umueze is recognized as having migrated in the company of Ijaw people. If the OP really wanted to rationally deduce something, they would have first been honest about Umueze’s migration and then deduce that perhaps Central Delta Ijaw migrated northwards and came into contact with some Igbo-speaking people who claim a “Benin” history. These two populations then migrated together and ended up in Ndoki. After a brief sojourn, some proceeded to migrate to Bonny. That would have been rational, because Umueze migration acknowledges Ijaw.



Again, Umueze’s oral tradition acknowledges Ijaw in this migration. This is not a fabrication. Alagoa definitely took that opportunity to exaggerate and fabricate that all of Ndoki are from Central Delta. But just because Alagoa lied does not make the Umueze tradition any less true. They were in the company of Ijaw when they arrived at Obunku. There is no other way to spin this, unless you want to start erasing some Umueze oral tradition the same way Alagoa tried to erase some Bonny oral tradition[/s].

Chinenye I think it's time you go and cook for your husband. I’ve come to understand one thing about you. You always want to discredit Igbo history. All since you joined Nairaland, you’ve always shown your Igbophobic tendencies. No true Igbo will do so. Forget about the fraudulent history you post from time to time, once it involves Igbo, you show your rashness.

I once challenge your Igboness in this group and up till now, you're yet to prove you're truly Ngwa. Except trying to impose one-frankenstein Ikwerre language on Ndi Ngwa, everything about you is fake.

Even before likeminds noticed this thread, you jumped in to dish out your quack point of view. So please carry your foolishness to look for where you’ll be cured and allow those with points lay them.

OfoIgbo:
Of course, I am in agreement with you with regards to the bolded. Bonny can never be a neutral ground. It is owned by Ndoki people. No one can take it from them. The first book ever written about Bonny has already established that fact, and it will remain there forever.

Your best hope is to convince Ndoki people that they are Ijaw. If you are unable to do that, then Bonny is not Ijaw.
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According to the first book ever written about Bonny, people from Brass also migrated to Bonny, after the first settlers. I'm sure Chief Harold Dappa Biriye's ancestors were one of those Brass citizens that eventually settled in Bonny.

Now Ijaws and Fulanis have been major allies and partners in committing atrocities against other ethnic groups. I initially pointed out the abandoned properties episode, which was initiated by the Ijaws. That clearly shows what you guys are all about. Exactly the same as Fulanis that are taking over people's lands.

You hit the nail. Bonny is Ndoki owned. The so-called Biriye and Fombo who helped Alagoa falsify Bonny history are both migrants from Brass. The early European sailors wrote about the migrants from Brass who came as both slaves and porters.

Mustiboy:
Since 2006?

Fan since 2010, before we brought in Aguero.

Shut up ya mouth. The first dude says 2006, you 2010. Arsenal decampees. Anyone supporting City joined in 2012 and beyond.

Happy Birthday Oliver. RIP

Essence3030:
go back and read again, I didn't mention Igbo I only said ipob.

Ok, I replied wrongly. I was replying the OP who used Igbos instead of Abians.

PaChukwudi44:
Mr Ignoramus ,It us not the responsibility of senators to build roads!!!

Yes, it’s his duty. It was his duty to build road as a Deputy Governor and it remains his duty to attract roads to his constituency as a Senator. Abaribe has been in the corridors of power for year's and yet nothing to show for it. Even the likes of Uzodinma as Senator did more for Orlu zone and Ndigbo in general than Abaribe could ever do.

In Rivers West, Uchendu as Senator did more than Abaribe could ever contemplate doing. A failure will always remain a failure. It's not by coming out in the open to whip up Biafran sentiments or be the poser boy for IPOB stupidity. It's to walk the talk by showing us his scorecard.

Abaribe as a failure is a representation of Nnamdi Kanu’s led IPOB.

Essence3030:
Ipob will tell you that is not there to do road.
The useless senator is among the people sponsoring ipob.

Please remove Igbos from your sentence. Next time use the word Abians. Majority of IPOB members are Abians before they carried that madness to other Igbo states. MNK, Abaribe are partners in crime, same with Theodore Orji and OUK their elder brothers.

Balkan:
The supreme court administrator is speaking for himself

And Nnamdi Kanu the clown speaks for himself.

mabea:
Unfortunately he does.

Are you listening to that clown. Uzodinma has the mandate of the people and represents Ndigbo whether IPOB clowns like it or not. Anyone not happy with him should hang themselves.

Uzodinma has spoken truth to power. And as a Governor who represents the views and aspirations of his people, we stand by his points,

God knows I saw this coming from day one. Nnamdi Kanu has always had this intentions in mind yet IPOB lunatics abroad kept supporting and funding him sheepishly.

The chicken has come home to roost. It obvious a lot of us never learnt from history. Kanu now commands millions of illiterates and hoodlums. We should get prepared for what is coming.

cjrane:
It is highly likely that the Nigerian state security services heavily dominated by Fulani people are behind these activities to help them implement their agenda against Igbo people in particular and conquest of southern Nigeria in general. Truth is that they are in for a ride.

Fulani has tried to rope Hausa people into this issue between Fulani herdsmen killing people in their villages and farms, and the people resisting the extermination agenda of Fulanis.

And you believe so? Many of you supporting IPOB will get sense by force. Are you saying you’ve not heard about the activities of Chimezie RBI heading the UGM.

Then who did? Two face animal. Doing things underground and coming out to tell us lies. Who’s Chimezie Radio Biafra Isreal the illiterate who is known to head the UGM. Is the said Chimezie Biafra not answerable to you?

Hope Uzodinma must take this IPOB threat serious and totally destroy these hoodlums from his state. Imo has always been the target of Ihedioha / Abaribe / Peter Obi IPOB/PDP youth.

All the evidence are getting clear after the Prison Break in Owerri today. My instinct we’re always right when I suspected Nnamdi Kanu during his early broadcast in 2014. While Muric and Miyetti Allah works for Buhari’s APC, the PDP themselves are simply doing their dirty tricks with the likes of Kanu. At the end, it’s Igboland that will suffer.

When we tried convincing our people to stop funding or supporting Kanu the PDP Youth leader, they called us names. Today, the chicken has come home to roost.

First they came for those they called the Pro one Nigeria.
Second they came for the Police and security operatives.
Next the civilians will be the next target.

This was how Boko-Haram started in the north.

Governorship going to Riverine is a welcome development but not Kalabari. Instead of Kalabari to produce Governor, it's better Ogoni have it.

Amaechi is a smart politician and might give Dakuku Peterside another run for Governorship.

hollah123:
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I’ve warned you clown to remove my moniker from your list but you still want to be stupid. Are you really sure you know the moniker you added to that IPOB list or you simply just did a random addition. Be careful.

Madmadrevo:
i can swear with my life that over 35 people was killed by d herdsmen over dia,I was dia even b4 d governor came.I have pictures of over 20 of dem dat was murdered by herdsmen in my phone ryt now,wat a sad day over here in d east.

I shed tear looking at that picture. Ebonyi state government must arm a vigilante group to go into the bush and count their own scores.

And while they are at it, Umahi must convene a meeting of SE Governor’s to kickstart an Igbo security outfit even if its means recruiting retired Bakassi, MASSOB, local vigilante and local youths to counter this Fulani killer militia group, tit for tit, brutality for brutality. So that when next the Fulani militia remember that 1 Igbo live is equivalent to 20 Fulani heads, they’ll take precaution.

Vintagepipes:
So, what stops you from forming an Igbo intelligentsia now? oopps! that is the youth wing of Ohaneze who have been reduced to political praise dancers, whose only mission is to lick the ass of selfish politician in exchange for a few cash.
Ohaneze have done absolutely nothing to push the course of Igbo people forward and no one even respects them. If not for IPOB, we will not be having this conversation right now. Until you provide that alternative, do not come here with a false sense of concern for the advancement of the Igbo nation.
Start one now so we can follow you.

The bolded has been used by the IPOB members on several occasions. You guy should learn to come up with something new as no one is buying these tales.

Kanu enlightened your likes in Idumota, Alaba, Main Market Onitsha and Aba who were ignorant, and not my type. Are you aware the age-long battles many of us fought with these Benin/Ijaw landgrabbers? As a matter of fact I joined the battle in 2008 as an undergraduate on Nairaland, when the Ijaws were at the forefront of falsifying my community history to be Ijawcentric. Or is it the Benin’s who changed our history to blend with Ogba Bini wannabes.

Do you know the effort many of us fought in different social media forum to preserve our Igbo identity? From NaijaBestForum, to Village Square up till when Facebook started. As a matter of fact the coming of MNK destroyed the little gains we achieved and set us backwards.

Please learn to continue following MNK sheepishly and never rub it on our faces. We fought the battle before Nnamdi Kanu rose and we shall continue to fight the battle until a new and charismatic Igbo group arises that understands what they are doing.

Vintagepipes:
My question is why you are not even part of IPOB withall your knowledge. Are you working for the government? A rival political group? Why not be a consultant to IPOB with all your knowledge. Whether you like them or not, they are the alternative and undisputed leading voice of the Igbo nation. Ohaneze are a political tool and their agenda is not for the future of the Igbo nation. Yopu and I now that ost Igbo youths or elders do not even care if they exist.
As for IPOB, i guess they are using the IYC and INC Method. I have been thinking about it myself, and Igbo alone nation is the best natin. Not a multi-ethnic nation. Even other Pro-Biafra faithful are starting to see the benefits of an Igbo alone nation.

I was thinking you were enlightened till I saw you advised Igboid to join IPOB. What positive impact has IPOB brought to the Igbo race? IPOB as far as I’m concerned is a demonic group led by a chief Satanist to bring cultural and social confusion in Igboland.

The earlier IPOB is disbanded, MNK arrested and a new Igbo group formed by Igbo intelligentsia to propagate Igbo interest, the Igbo nation will continue to be a laughing stock. IPOB must be destroyed for the good of the Igbo nation.

Many of you still dancing the macabre dance in public with IPOB are yet to get the full brief of MNK plans. Many of us have known the intention of MNK as far back as 2014 and can never be cajoled by his antics.

Vintagepipes:
So, i want to understand one thing, when they addressed the Igbo people, they spoke their mother-tongue but when they wanted to address the king of the 2x2 LGA kingdom, they had to speak English. That means an Anambra man and an Igbanke man can sell the Oba and all his chief right in their front and they will not know. You guys are hilarious.

Lol! Funny