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Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 5:32pm On Dec 24, 2016
Every Human can indirectly trace their lineage to Abraham... Again Mary was the only one. (not even Abraham) who actually carried Jesus in her Womb, nursed him, and took care of him... of other person can make that claim.....doing it with not contradict his word... He himself was not married so you might say he is contradicting his word by not having children, Paul was not married, see 1 cor 7, was he contradicting Jesus? Mary married Joseph not necessarily for having children


this is the main reason why Joseph married Mary
First, as Matthew points out in his genealogy in chapter 1, Joseph was in line to be a successor of David as King ofIsrael. Thus, if Jesus was to be the true"son of David" and king of Israel (see 2 Sm 7:14, Heb 1:5, Rv 19:16, 22:16), he needed to be the son of Joseph. As the only son of Joseph, even thoughadopted, he would have been in line for the throne. Also, in a culture that did nottake too kindly to espoused women getting pregnant by someone other thantheir spouse, Mary would have been in mortal danger according to the Law (stoned/killed see Leviticus 20:10-). So Joseph by God's divine wisdom becameMary’s earthly spouse and protector as well as the protector of the child Jesus to protect Mary from being called a"Harlot" who got pregnant for someone else before she was supposed to Mary another (imagine the scandal ) and to protect Jesus image of not being called a bastard..

NOT TO BE BABY FACTORY FOR HIM
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m):
you said the least Christian is greater than John... Mary was a Christian... some might say the first Christian... because she was the first to believe in Jesus... She was there when he was born, and was with him when he died ... by that then... according to you... she is greater than John, who according to you also is greater than all the old testament people...
Again How many of those People (Abraham, Sarah etc) gave birth to Jesus?
mat 11:11 doesn't say only those who came before him, don't bend it to suit yourself, it simply says Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John
the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the
kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

what this simply means is that all who have lived or are alive born of a woman... non is greater than John...

Jesus is alive or lived during John's time, and he was born of a woman... according to Galatians 4:4... So by your definition he is also greater than Jesus... Don't try to paint it...


Yes... Jesus is greater than Joseph his Foster father so his Purpose of making her a virgin perpetually to suit his divine purpose outweighs the necessity of Joseph having children...

if Jesus wants Mary's womb to be only for him... so it must be regardless of Joseph's progeny or desires.... unless you think he is not powerful enough to do it
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 10:41am On Dec 24, 2016
Jesus Always knew who he was... Atleast at age 12 he knew he was in his Father's House see Luke 2:41-51.... and at the wedding of Canna, He knew that his ministry had not started yet see John 2 especially verse 4.. Besides even as a baby he was not just an ordinary human baby... He was aware... Angels in heaven were singing, wise men followed a star and brought gifts see Luke 2:8-20
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 8:46am On Dec 24, 2016
On being married to Joseph... Why did Mary marry Joseph if she would not bear any children for him.. or was consecrated to God as a virgin....
First, as Matthew points out in his genealogy in chapter 1, Joseph was in line to be a successor of David as King of
Israel. Thus, if Jesus was to be the true "son of David" and king of Israel (see 2 Sm 7:14, Heb 1:5, Rv 19:16, 22:16), he needed to be the son of Joseph. As the only son of Joseph, even though
adopted, he would have been in line for the throne. Also, in a culture that did not take too kindly to espoused women getting pregnant by someone other than their spouse, Mary would have been in mortal danger according to the Law (stoned/killed see Leviticus 20:10-). So Joseph by God's divine wisdom became Mary’s earthly spouse and protector as well as the protector of the child Jesus to protect Mary from being called a "Harlot" who got pregnant for someone else before she was supposed to Mary another (imagine the scandal ) and to protect Jesus image of not being called a bastard..
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Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 8:35am On Dec 24, 2016
on the Lord's Brothers you quote Mathew 13:55 because it agrees with you but forget about the other verses that contradict or throw more light

it says James and Joseph, Simon and Judas are Jesus's brothers

Now let's look at other verses
Mathew 27:55 There were many women there, looking on from a distance, who had followed Jesus from Galilee and helped him. 56 Among them were Mary Magdalene, MARY the MOTHER of JAMES and JOSEPH, and the wife of Zebedee.

Mark 15:40 Some women were there, looking on from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, MARY the MOTHER of the YOUNGER JAMES and of YOURSELF, and SALOME.

Mark 16:1After the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, MARY the mother of JAMES, and SALOME bought spices to go and anoint the body of Jesus.

Note this Mary Is not the LORD'S MOTHER because the Bible addresses her as the LORD's MOTHER ( See Luke 1: John 19)
in John"s account we see other Mary's with the LORD'S MOTHER, whom John calls his mother's "Sister" whose Children can also be called Jesus's brothers and sisters and she herself can be informally called his MOTHER..
John 19:25 Then look at what John says: "But standing by
the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his
mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and
Mary Magdalene"

NOTE THAT IN ALL THE BIBLE ACCOUNT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS IS NEVER DIRECTLY CALLED JESUS'S BROTHERS MOTHER.

Now let's look at
Jude 1:1 From JUDE, SERVANT of JESUS CHRIST, and BROTHER of JAMES— see Mathew 13:55, Mark 15:40...
NOTICE HE DOESN'T CALL HIMSELF JESUS BROTHER WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY APPROPRIATE INSTEAD HE RECOGNIZES ONLY JAMES RIGHTLY..

Besides from the story of luke 2 When Jesus was found in the Temple at age
twelve, the context suggests that he was the only son of Mary and Joseph. There is no hint in this episode of any other children in the family (Luke 2:41–51). Jesus grew up in Nazareth, and
the people of Nazareth referred to him as "the son of Mary" (Mark 6:3), not as " a son of Mary." In fact, others in the Gospels are never referred
to as Mary’s sons, not even when they are
called Jesus’ "brethren." If they were in fact her sons, this would be strange usage.
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 8:07am On Dec 24, 2016
#Mary is more special than every other Christian according to the Bible because
She was the only human GREETED, and called FULL OF GRACE.. see
luke 1:28χαῖρε, κεχαριτωμένη, ὁ κύριοςμετὰ σοῦ.Chaire, kecharitōmenē, ho kyrios meta sou!Hail, "Full of Grace," the Lord is with you!

She is called BLESSED among women by the Holy Spirit through Elizabeth,

Elizabeth said to her als oluke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby moved within her. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and said in a loud voice, “You are the most blessed of all women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 Why should this great thing happen to me, that my Lord's mother comes to visit me?

The Baby leaped when his Mother heard MARY'S VOICE, yes it is because of Jesus but the Baby leaped when his mother heard Mary's Voice and the Holy Spirit lead Elizabeth also to call Mary according to Luke 1:43 Why should this great thing happen to me, that my LORD'S MOTHER comes to visit me?

Elizabeth realized that it was a great thing for Mary to visit her..


HER ETERNAL VIRGINITY IS OF GREAT CONSEQUENCE BECAUSE IT POINTS FURTHER TO JESUS DIVINITY UNLESS YOU THINK JESUS IS NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH TO CONSECRATE HER TO HIMSELF AFTER SHE BORE HIM
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 7:02am On Dec 24, 2016
John 1:1 doesn't say he left his divinity, It says that the Word was God, Like I have already pointed out, Jesus is God by nature, He left his Glory not his Nature..

the deity of Christ has everything to do with it... for it is because of his deity that is why Mary is given the title ... Even if he lived the Life of a normal Jewish Boy.. it was because He chose to... not because he was powerless or no longer God... besides he didn't live Exactly like a "normal Jewish boy" see Luke 2:41-51
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 12:50am On Dec 24, 2016
So you believe in a Godhood of Father and Son but not the Holy Spirit... there are some who would call that pagan also... the Holy Spirit is God's "breath" see John 20: 22 Then he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
if according to you.. the Son Jesus is God, then his breath (the Holy Spirit) should also be God since it is part of him.. Just like we can't call your breath apart from you or call it another Person....
Besides that the Holy Spirit is refered to not as a thing but as a Person in scriptures given the title "HE" see
John 14:16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, who will stay with you forever. 17 HE is the Spirit, who reveals the truth about God. The world cannot receive HIM, because it cannot see HIM or know HIM. But you know HIM, because HE remains with you and is in you.
John 15:26 “The HELPER will come—THE SPIRIT, who reveals the truth about God and who comes from the Father. I will send HIM to you from the Father, and HE will speak about me.
John 16:7 But I am telling you the truth: it is better for you that I go away, because if I do not go, the Helper will not come to you. But if I do go away, then I will send HIM to you. 8 And when HE comes, HE will prove to the people of the world that they are wrong about sin and about what is right and about God's judgment.

If you think the Holy Spirit is a Force when from Jesus words HE Is a PERSON then OYO for you
Let me end with Paul 's greeting, where He Uses the true Godhead, the TRINITY to sign out
2 cor 13: 13 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

P.S. I WENT TO WINNERS I HEARD A PASTOR PRAY IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT.... Unless that is a DEN OF DEMONS TOO
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 12:17am On Dec 24, 2016
Here are other scriptures that might help show you that Jesus is God
John 10:30 The Father and I are one.”If he and the father are one then... He is God also and the jews understood that because they wanted to kill him for that as seen in John 10:33 They answered, “We do not want to stone you because of any good deeds, but because of your blasphemy! You are only a man, but you are trying to make yourself God!”
John 5:18 This saying made the Jewish authorities all the more determined to kill him; not only had he broken the Sabbath law, but he had said that God was his own Father and in this way had made himself equal with God.
Because he is the Lord of the Sabbath(mat 12:8 )

John 8:58 “I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born, ‘I Am’.”Where Jesus uses the Divine Name of Exodus 3:14 for himself. For which they wanted to stone him again (John 8:59)
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 12:15am On Dec 24, 2016
if you don't believe Jesus is God then OYO, For you, because
John believed it see John 1: 1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and THE WORD was GOD.

Thomas believed it when he said to Jesus in John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My LORD and my GOD!”

I forgot about IsaiahIsaiah 9:6 A child is born to us!A son is given to us!And he will be our ruler.He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,”MIGHTY GOD,” “ETERNAL FATHER,”“Prince of Peace.”

Like I said OYO
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 12:07am On Dec 24, 2016
Just to clear it up more, Mary Is not the Mother of the Holy Spirit, nor God the Father, and she was not Until the Incarnation, the Mother of God the Son, But when the Eternal Son (Word) who Is still God became man (John 1: 1-14) that was when she became His Mother, the Mother of Jesus, the Nazarene, who is God
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 11:48pm On Dec 23, 2016
Jesus is the Eternal Son of the Eternal Father, The Word, He didn't have a Mother before he was incarnated so She is not His Eternal mother because he predates her.. Yes... but from the Time he took flesh, She became his mother, She is the mother of Jesus the Nazarene, and Jesus the Nazarene is God. Yes He is her God too, but she is his mother atleast from the time the Word was made flesh in John 1:14 or luke 1: 38

Another note: it is God that gives us our souls right... not our mothers even though our mothers (and fathers) give us our bodies... But we don't address our mothers as "Mother of our body only" since it is the only thing we got from them, We just call them "Mother" even though it implies that (since we have both body and soul ) that she gave us both
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 9:21pm On Dec 23, 2016
here are some others, Justin martyr, Clement of Rome, irenaeus, among others. check them out.. know real history. preferably from unbiased source... Wikipedia maybe
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 8:55pm On Dec 23, 2016
About Mary being a liar and fornicator... in that case you are calling the Old testament prophets, the Angel Gabriel, St Luke, the Whole Bible and even God a liar with your statement about Mary..

Old testament prophets
Isaiah 7:14 Well then, the Lord himself will give you a sign: a young woman who is pregnant will have a son and will name him ‘Immanuel.’ see also mat 1:23

Isaiah 9:6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,”
“Mighty God,” “Eternal Father,”
“Prince of Peace.”
7 His royal power will continue to grow;
his kingdom will always be at peace.
He will rule as King David's successor,
basing his power on right and justice,
from now until the end of time.
The Lord Almighty is determined to do all this.

Micah 5:2 says: "But you,
Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are
small among the clans of Judah, out of
you will come for me one who will be
ruler over Israel, whose origins are
from of old, from ancient times." The
story of Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem is
told in the New Testament books of
Mathew, Luke, and John.

Numbers: 24:17
says: "A star will come out of Jacob; a
scepter will rise out of Israel." The
genealogy of Jesus laid out in the book
of Matthew details Jesus lineage
through Isaac and Jacob.


Luke 1: 30 The angel said to her, “Don't be afraid, Mary; God has been gracious to you. 31 You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High God. The Lord God will make him a king, as his ancestor David was, 33 and he will be the king of the descendants of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end!”

34 Mary said to the angel, “I am a virgin. How, then, can this be?”

35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and God's power will rest upon you. For this reason the holy child will be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby moved within her. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and said in a loud voice, “You are the most blessed of all women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 Why should this great thing happen to me, that my Lord's mother comes to visit me?

I can understand if you hate the Catholic Church but don't blaspheme by calling the Holy Spirit, Scriptures and even God himself a liar.. Unless you are a Muslim or maybe a Jw.. not to offend anyone
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 8:32pm On Dec 23, 2016
concerning Mathew 1:25,
Scripture’s statement that Joseph "knew [Mary]
not until she brought forth her firstborn" would
not necessarily mean they did "know" each other
after she brought forth Jesus. Until is often used
in Scripture as part of an idiomatic expression
similar to our own usage in English. I may say to
you, "Until we meet again, God bless you." Does
that necessarily mean after we meet again, God
curse you? By no means. A phrase like this is
used to emphasize what is being described
before the until is fulfilled. It is not intended to
say anything about the future beyond that point.
Here are some biblical examples:
2 Samuel 6:23: And Michal the daughter of
Saul had no child to ( until) the day of her
death. (Does this mean she had children
after she died?)
1 Timothy 4:13: Until I come, attend to the
public reading of scripture, to preaching, to
teaching. (Does this mean Timothy should
stop teaching after Paul comes?)
1 Corinthians 15:25: For he (Christ) must
reign until he has put all his enemies under
his feet. (Does this mean Christ’s reign will
end? By no means! Luke 1:33 says, "he will
reign over the house of Jacob forever and
of his kingdom there shall be no end."wink
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 8:23pm On Dec 23, 2016
I guess John the Baptist is greater than Jesus too because he was also born of a woman according to you..
gal 4:4 But when the set time had fully come, God
sent his Son, born of a woman, born under
the law.

Concerning Mary yes She was saved by God's grace that is what the Catholic Church teaches... according to the Bible.... and according to the Bible she is the only human HAILED by an Angel and the first person the Bible calls FULL OF GRACE..
luke 1:28χαῖρε, κεχαριτωμένη, ὁ κύριος μετὰ σοῦ.
Chaire, kecharitōmenē, ho kyrios meta sou!
Hail, "Full of Grace," the Lord is with you!

Elizabeth said to her also
luke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby moved within her. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and said in a loud voice, “You are the most blessed of all women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 Why should this great thing happen to me, that my Lord's mother comes to visit me?

Elizabeth said all these things under the power of the Holy Spirit...

if the Angel Gabriel and the Holy Spirit respected and honour her and you want to insult and degrade her then that is left for you... the Bible also says that all generations will call her blessed..
Luke 1:48 for he has been mindful of the humble state
of his servant. From now on all generations
will call me blessed,..

All this Is scriptural yet "Bible Christians" ignore it...

Ask yourself this question, Did Jesus honour his mother?
I mean he should obey his own command
exodus 20:12 “Respect your father and your MOTHER, so that you may live a long time in the land that I am giving you.

even ordinary humans don't like people speaking ill of their mother. how much more Jesus himself..
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 7:59pm On Dec 23, 2016
more early Christians for you, Clement of Rome, Justin martyr, Cyril of Jerusalem ireneaus, read about all of them and see....
the problem I have with "Bible Christians" is that they all claim to have the Holy Spirit and that it helps them interpret scripture but they have so many different doctrines and denominations based on their pastor's or "papa's" interpretation of scripture.. the problem is they contradict each other and the Holy Spirit cannot contradict himself
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 6:28pm On Dec 22, 2016
on Pagan Practices, your link is filled with bias anti Catholic rhetoric... I won't ask the truth about Itsekiris from ijaw or about ife from modakeke... Give me unbiased sources
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 5:54pm On Dec 22, 2016
On the mass been a ritual, that's just silly and ignorant... Every Church has a pattern of worship "ritual" if you like.. For you.. You come to Church, you pray, you sing, you preach, that's your ritual....
The Catholic believes and takes Jesus at his word at the last supper, "this is my body" this is my blood ". He did the same in John 6 and didn't call anyone back when they talked about cannibalism.. Paul echoes Christ in 1 cor 10 and 11. If you choose to call it symbolic then OYO is your case
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 5:41pm On Dec 22, 2016
On Catholic Priest, Yes you have bad priest who molested children and thank God that has been sorted out, You can't tell me that all Pastors are Saints, we have heard of Pastor ritualistic, adulterers, and even molesters like you accuse the priests, take out the log from your eye before you try to remove the stick in another's. Pastors or priests they are all men and can fall into sin...
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m):
There was a Church already and a papacy before Pope Sylvester and Constantine...
Read about the Church Father's of the First and Second Century... Ignatius of Antioch, Clement of Rome, Justin martyr who were there before the 300s when Constantine came around
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 4:00pm On Dec 22, 2016
That's another error, who told you Catholics don't believe in the Bible, They just don't believe in Bible Alone because the Bible itself never teaches that
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph "Had Relations" With Mary, My Response by easymancfc(m): 3:42pm On Dec 22, 2016
In the Old testament Also, the Word or God's Commandments was not made to prefigure Christ... That concept was brought forward by John in John 1, In the ark or covenant box, you had three things according to Hebrews 9:4bthe Covenant box all covered with gold and containing the gold jar with the Manna in it, AARON'S STICK that had sprouted leaves, and the TWO STONE TABLETS with the COMMANDMENTS written on them.

Jesus says he is the real Manna (bread from heaven) see John 6

AARON'S STICK that budded in Numbers 16 shows authority or high priest.. JESUS is our high priest see Heb 7: 26

The tablets of the commandments are God's word written on stones see Ex 19 & 20, Jesus is the Word made flesh... see john 1:14... All these were Old testament symbols or types of Jesus contained In a box that was REVERED, Now Jesus himself takes flesh in a New Ark (Mary) and She is not given any reverence.. Heb 8:15 and col 2:17 said old testament things are shadows of the things to come in and through Christ.. People who opened the Old Ark or touch it died (seventy people of Beth Shemesh and Uzzah) see 1 Sam 6:19 and 2 Sam 6:7... IF this is a shadow how much reverence should we give to the "Ark" who bore the "Real" Jesus
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 7:50am On Dec 22, 2016
Exactly, and I covered that in my first reply, Jesus is God by nature, Not just because of his Glory, yes he left his Glory, He didn't leave his nature.

And again He is not just the Son of God, He is God
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 3:06am On Dec 22, 2016
Of course and I agree with that but did the Son of God stop being the Son of God when he became man? That's still the question
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 12:07am On Dec 22, 2016
I forgot about Isaiah
Isaiah 9:6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,”
“Mighty God,” “Eternal Father,”
“Prince of Peace.”
JESUS is called all the above names by Isaiah

Isaiah 7:14 Well then, the Lord himself will give you a sign: a young woman who is pregnant will have a son and will name him ‘Immanuel.’
What does Immanuel mean? Mat 1:23 tells us
Mathew 1:23 “A virgin will become pregnant and have a son, and he will be called Immanuel” (which means, “God is with us”).

So Jesus is God, he is Man separately and God separately. HE IS BOTH GOD AND MAN AT THE Same time
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m):
According to the Bible especially the book of John: Jesus is God, according to Philippians 2 which is quoted in the article Jesus left his glory and emptied himself, he cannot empty his nature, which is God, but he left the glory in heaven that doesn't mean he left his divinity. Look at it this way, a rich guy pretends to be poor so that he can win a girl he loves over, does it mean that because he left his riches and is wearing rags, he is no longer the rich person that he was?

Bible verses
John 10:30 The Father and I are one.”
If he and the father are one then... He is God also and the jews understood that because they wanted to kill him for that as seen in
John 10:33 They answered, “We do not want to stone you because of any good deeds, but because of your blasphemy! You are only a man, but you are trying to make yourself God!”


John 5:18 This saying made the Jewish authorities all the more determined to kill him; not only had he broken the Sabbath law, but he had said that God was his own Father and in this way had made himself equal with God.
Because he is the Lord of the Sabbath (mat 12:8 )

John 8:58 “I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born, ‘I Am’.”
Where Jesus uses the Divine Name of Exodus 3:14 for himself. For which they wanted to stone him again (John 8:48)

I missed the simplest one of John 1:1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Look at it this way, your mother? Is she just the Mother of your body, or your body and soul? She is the Mother of the Person period, even if the person is a body and soul... Same goes for theotokos, we are not saying she has to predate Christ or has to be divine herself, But we are simply saying that Jesus is God and he has a mother. No other claim to her divinity is made, just like we don't separate your body from your soul when talking about your maternity
I forgot about Isaiah
Isaiah 9:6 A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,”
“Mighty God,” “Eternal Father,”
“Prince of Peace.”
JESUS is called all the above names by Isaiah

Isaiah 7:14 Well then, the Lord himself will give you a sign: a young woman who is pregnant will have a son and will name him ‘Immanuel.’
What does Immanuel mean? Mat 1:23 tells us
Mathew 1:23 “A virgin will become pregnant and have a son, and he will be called Immanuel” (which means, “God is with us”).

So Jesus is "God with us". he is Man separately and God separately. HE IS BOTH GOD AND MAN AT THE Same time
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 11:52pm On Dec 21, 2016
According to the Bible especially other book of John: Jesus is God, according to Philippians 2 which is quoted in the article Jesus left his glory and emptied himself, he cannot empty his nature, which is God, but he left the glory in heaven that doesn't mean he left his divinity. Look at it this way, a rich guy pretends to be poor so that he can win a girl he loves over, does it mean that because he left his riches and is wearing rags, he is no longer the rich person that he was?

Bible verses
John 10:30 The Father and I are one.”
If he and the father are one then... He is God also and the jews understood that because they wanted to kill him for that as seen in
John 10:33 They answered, “We do not want to stone you because of any good deeds, but because of your blasphemy! You are only a man, but you are trying to make yourself God!”


John 5:18 This saying made the Jewish authorities all the more determined to kill him; not only had he broken the Sabbath law, but he had said that God was his own Father and in this way had made himself equal with God.
Because he is the Lord of the Sabbath (mat 12:cool

John 8:58 “I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born, ‘I Am’.”
Where Jesus uses the Divine Name of Exodus 3:14 for himself. For which they wanted to stone him again (John 8:48)

I missed the simplest one of John 1:1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Look at it this way, your mother? Is she just the Mother of your body, or your body and soul? She is the Mother of the Person period, even if the person is a body and soul... Same goes for the otokos
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m):
The answer to Mathew 13:53 is 14 chapters later in mat 27:55 and Mark 15:47
Mathew 27:55 There were many women there, looking on from a distance, who had followed Jesus from Galilee and helped him. 56 Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the wife of Zebedee.

Note that the Mother of James and Joses (Joseph) two of the "brothers" of the Lord is not the Lord's Mother or as seen in John John 19: 25 Standing close to Jesus' cross were his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
So there's a problem with drawing conclusions from mat 13 about the Lord's brothers when their mother is mentioned and she is not the Lord's
Mother

Concerning Exodus 20 the real message there is don't worship other gods or idols not an explicit ban on images because five chapters later in Exodus 25 and other verses God commands making images

Exodus 25:18 Make two winged creatures of hammered gold, 19 one for each end of the lid. Make them so that they form one piece with the lid.

Numbers 21:8 Then the Lord told Moses to make a metal snake and put it on a pole, so that anyone who was bitten could look at it and be healed. 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Anyone who had been bitten would look at the bronze snake and be healed.

God also commanded images in the building of the temple by Solomon in 1 kings.

1 kings 6:23 Two winged creatures were made of olive wood and placed in the Most Holy Place, each one 15 feet tall...
Notice these IMAGES were placed in the MOST HOLY PLACE
29 The walls of the main room and of the inner room were all decorated with carved figures of winged creatures, palm trees, and flowers. 30 Even the floor was covered with gold.

31 A double door made of olive wood was set in place at the entrance of the Most Holy Place; the top of the doorway was a pointed arch. 32 The doors were decorated with carved figures of winged creatures, palm trees, and flowers. The doors, the winged creatures, and the palm trees were covered with gold.

The use of images is not evil. It is making them out to be gods that God hates

I'm curious to know the "real history" you know because from my experience anti Catholics usually give a poor and iased historical account of Catholicism because of ignorance or hate. In your citations please use unbiased links like Wikipedia
Christianity EtcRe: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by easymancfc(m): 10:36pm On Dec 21, 2016
Ola... In the Bible Mary is addressed as the Mother of the Lord in Luke 1: 43 Why should this great thing happen to me, that my Lord's mother comes to visit me?..
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 5:10pm On Dec 21, 2016
on Peter being pope or not, it was clear that Peter had a Primary in the early Church, He was the leader, interpret as what you want.. the Bible is clear on that
Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of
Heaven: whatever you bind on earth will be
bound in Heaven; whatever you loose on earth
will be loosed. in Heaven.
Mark 6:7
Angel sent to announce the Resurrection to
Peter.
Luke 22:32
Peter's faith will strengthen his brethren.
Note: The word you [I have prayed for
you.]
The Greek is in the personal tense, not
the plural like:
All you Apostles .
Luke 24:34
Risen Jesus first appeared to Peter.
John 21:17
Given Christ's flock as chief shepherd.
Acts 1:13-26
Peter headed meeting which elected Matthias to
replace Judas.
Acts 2:14
Peter received the first converts.
Acts 3:6-7
Peter performed the first miracle after
Pentecost.
Acts 5:1-11
Peter's words inflict deadly punishment on
Ananias and Saphira.
Acts 8:21
Peter excommunicated the first heretic, Simon
Magnus.
Acts 10:44-46
Peter received a revelation to admit the Gentles
into the Church.
Acts 15
Peter Lead the first Catholic council in
Jerusalem.
Acts 15:7-12
Peter spoke saying: "My brothers, he said, ....
But we believe that we are saved in the same
way as they are: through the grace of the Lord
Jesus." The entire assembly fell silent, and they
listened to Barnabas and Paul describing all the
signs and wonders God had worked through them
among the gentiles."
Peter pronounces the first dogmatic decision.
Galatians 1:18
After his conversion, Paul visits the chief
Apostle.
Matthew 10:1-4 , Mark 3:16-19 , Luke 6:14-16 ,
Acts 1:13
Peter's name always heads the list of Apostles.
Matthew 18:21 , Mark 8:29 , Luke 12:41 , John 6:69
Peter spoke for the Apostles.
Luke 9:32 , Mark 16:7
Peter and his companions
Christianity EtcRe: Six (6) Things That Will Shock You About The Catholic by easymancfc(m): 5:04pm On Dec 21, 2016
The level of ignorance of history is appalling, some people think Christianity stopped in acts 28 and resumed with their Pastor in the 20th or 21th century...

Concerning the Cannibals statements:
the Bible states clearly in Mathew, mark and Luke that Jesus said "this is my body" "this is my blood", in John 6 he says to eat his flesh and drink his blood Even though people left him for it he didn't call them back to say it was a symbol.. Paul talks about same in 1 cor 10 and 11. If you don't believe then it is you are calling Jesus a liar or saying he didn't mean what he said.

On being around in during the apostles time, Yes indeed, No other Christian religion was in existence then, definitely not these Nigerian Churches.

On the Trinity, iYou obviously don't know history and scripture if you think it was for a pagan emperor it was done but rather to settle the issue of Christ's divinity .. Go and study about Arias and the Arian Heresy and the Council of Nicea

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