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WannaHowzit:
I hope your world class hospital system in Japageria🇳🇬 with just 3 ambulances will handle your wife's leakage, when the doctors are done pooping in the gutters ☹️☹️☹️

That's what heteros have delivered so far.

Like the South africa you bold off is your ancestral land you slave from congo you keep disgracing the african race


I.wish the whitemen never brought you lots to southafrica to work as slaves , first of all go find your ancestral land youre a foreigner to south africa

Always copying your grand masters the white for thier illicit lifestyle but they will never copy yours ...

WannaHowzit:
Same as your wife.

Atleast i got a wife you got a man tearing is ass and forcing people to accept your abominable act

WannaHowzit:
Thank you homophobe for making me trend ⬇️🇿🇦🏳️‍🌈 Tops holla.

Leaky leaky anus

Failure2019:
Stop behaving like the retarded fâggôt you're:-)

You dont you gay

AndroidAI:
I watch porn a lot.

I am actually addicted lol.

I don't need girls cause I'm gay.

What I need is a big black dick.

Unfortunately you have a micro penis

You're dammed for life


Hope to do justice to your wretched soul

Nyanabo:
I've learnt to mind my business in this country/this life. Their proposal, their life, their marriage, their asshole not mine.

You're condemned for life....i will love you to be bold and display such abomination in a piblic space

Horus:
What happen in other people's bedrooms is none of my business

Its my business

WannaHowzit:
Yeah white men couldn't resist this delicious South African menz, thats why we have millions of them and they stayed 😋😋😋🔥🔥🔥

They stayed to always remind you all they bought you guys to south africa to work as slave's from your original country they are still your master's you adorn their illicit behaviours

If the black southafricans were the ones who started this gay shit the white will promote it as animalistic but you slaves of theirs won't promote it that way but rather adore it like fools

Always ready to lynch on innocent Nigerians thats all what you guys knows how to do best

South african men have big ass could be the reason you lot practise such unethical behavior

Flamemignon1:
I wasn't talking,I was typing

Lame reaponse from a lame gay

Thebadpolitician we need your presences here

Flamemignon1:
Yea.... that's not how sexuality works. You are a straight man and you will always be straight, nothing will ever kick you to the other side,your desire for women will triumph over all that.

Moreover what makes you think gay men aren't expensive too? Lol

Shut it

WannaHowzit:
Congrats guys. Its not easy being openly gay in Nigeria or Africa. But our fight continues.

My SA gay engagement pics loading soon, hopefully 😁!

This is the best thing south Africans are priding themselves off

A white man babaric practice

When we call south africans slaves we are not far from the truth

Kobojunkie:
Again, I hope you will be hung to die from a tree out in some public square right after as punishment for such foolishness. Firing squad or lethal injection would be too good for your kind.

This is the best thing south Africans are priding themselves off

A white man babaric practice

When we call south africans slaves we are not far from the truth

Kubin:
Good for them at least they will have rest of mind,the case of divorce will reduce,real nigas will have enough kpekus to enjoy

😡😡😡 gay

N3TRAL:
Lol. I'm not. It doesn't appear I'll ever be.

Hope you dont cross my path you will surely be dammed

Reelmii:
is it ur joke ...was i joking with u...if u are angry over the way they have chosen to live their lives,, why not go get a gun and shoot them

Exactly 💯 i agree with you but people like you are their sympathiser shouldn't be spared too

FuckHomophobes:
Awwwn 😍😘💝😻😻

🤬😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

SMARTMOTORS:
Aaawww! I love this when will find my own oo.....I hv beards too

🤑😡

Reelmii:
..atleast no money for hair, transport fare, cloth, urgent 2k.......since women too like money this type of marriage go fit some men

Are you on weed


What is with the joke

N3TRAL:
Awwwwwwwn

So cute 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘

One day Nigerians will be judged by the quality of their brains and not their sexual orientation.

If you're judging gays, throw your iphone away. Tim Cook , the CEO of Apple , is gay.

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Say whatever you like 😂. Curse as much as you want.

It will happen in your lifetime and I'll be present at the ceremony. I may even be the chairman of the gay wedding who knows?

Not just a white wedding, but a traditional gay wedding too in this country.

LGBTQ+ has come to stay and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it-fact.

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Happy Married life cute men 💍 💕

You're dammed for life

Topics like this shouldn't grace front page

samuk:
From my understanding of the reply/praise, it doesn't seem to stand for sky.

FAMILY UNION OF ISOMOBO OVBIYE EWUARE LINEAGE.

The greeting goes this way: laiso and the reply will be ISOMOBO OVBIYE EWUARE, meaning you are recognised as a descendant of Isomobo, Oba Ewuare's sibling.

I am not sure if the name of Ewuare sibling was a coincidence with the greeting. I was also told Laiso as a greeting was older, but it seems the reply was later modified to remember ISOMOBO's connection with Oba Ewuare 1.

Like AreaFada2 said more scholarship is needed.

I tried not to comment so much on the Ogiso era, I am aware of stories of Esagho and Ahukhor. I can't say if they are myths or not, their stories were very popular in the village.

Oba Ewuare ruling house is listed below as Ogiso Igodo. We are already told that Laiso was the greeting of the Ogiso ruling houses.

Meaning the ogiso existed and you belivee in the two dynasty

I want to ask what birthed the Oba dynasty

samuk:
Yes. In the old igiogbe, there are three graves, two are said to be of old chiefs and the last one was my grandmother who died in 1960.

The Ine n' Ibiwe and Adun are said to be other branches of the family. When I met one of Bob Izua's wife in London over a decade ago, she asked my surname, when I told her, she immediately called her husband and said to him one of your brothers is here speak to him, Bob Izua asked the area my father reside, I told him the street and he gave me the description of my dad and asked me if I knew that the person (his wife) I was standing with was my wife.

Yes the family goes way back with other branches within the Ewaise quarter of Benin. A serious researcher on Benin city itself should begin his research by speaking to all the chiefs within the Ogbe-Ewaise quarters.

Does the iso stand for sky in the greetings

samuk:
All Oba before Ewuare 1 greeted Laiso not La Ooni, I know this because I am a descendant of Oba Ohen. My ancestor was a sibling of Oba Ewuare 1 and this fact is clearly reflected in our morning salutation, infact it's the reply we get when we greet an elder. This is one of the reasons why Benin history is difficult to forge. There are too many references to disprove such forgery. La ooni must have been sneaked in to support the Benin Ife connection.

If the royal greeting before Oba Ewuare 1 was La Ooni, then my family would have still be greeting La Ooni but that is not the case. After Oba Ewuare 1 bought Lamogun from Igun Street, all subsequent Oba and their descendants carried on with Lamogun while those descendants of Oba before Ewuare 1 stuck with Laiso, at this point the current family reply was added to the greeting to maintain the family link with Oba Ewuare 1. Those that greet or familiar with Laiso know the reply.

When the current Oba Ewuare 2 was at Uselu going through the Edaiken rituals to become Oba, he requested a chief that represented one of the Laiso families to recount the history of the family before other chiefs, the chief did and Oba agreed that the chief was correct. I got this as a first hand information. I am close to the palace enough to know which of this history is real and those that are political.

There are several branches of Laiso families but all go back to the same ancestor. This is why I advocate for Benin people to do research into their own family history.

You greet laiso, since you were young

Olu317:
Let me pretend that Ogiso is a myth, but does Igodomigodo turned Bini not recognise Ekaladerhan as Ogiso Owodo's son ?

If you like or not,it doesnt change the face of fact. So,deal with it. If Ooni was a slave,how come Oba Bini still pay homage to the oldest crown in Yorubaland of ileife under the information of my ancestor's throne ?

Importantly Oba Esigie never wanted Christianity in Bini land if you do not know. Rather, the Portugese ambassador in the person of John Alfonso D'AVeiro advice Oba Esigie to accept Christianity which would lead to access to Gun,Cannon of that era and eventually it materialised which led to the rise and fall of Bini Kingdom.

And from this, the might of Bini in 1500s . So, do not paint it as if Oba Bini singlehandedly adore the Portuguese form of Christianity or any christian faith.This is far from the truth. Hence, wealth and Weapon was what Oba chased after during that era.

You see, I can even give information on certain area where such canon were used in Yorubaland before and thereafter the Edo warriors who were seen as invicible were mortal and chased away

Incoherent gibberish them dey smoke weed for that ogun state wey u dey abi


Benins supplied weapons to the yorubas during the yoruba Civil War that is a known fact the issues with you yorubas is you guys shy away from reading your own history and the few who does don't always read with an open mind and as such you guys will always misyarn at the end of the day

I will advise you to go and read the works of Samuel Johnson the history of yoruba for more insight, smj personally witnessed the yoruba Civil War and how benins supplied weapons to the yorubas to kill themselves so try not to overbloat yourself

There was nothing like ogiso it has always been oba, ogiso were mythical discussions that were influenced by portoguese missionaries who asked the benins in the past if they also believed on sky king too like Jesus

Orhogbua:
1.Oranmiyan didnt he simply changed the dynasty, terms like ile-ibinu or ubini or benin kingdom are exonyms igodomigodo is the true name of the benin kingdom

2 That is true

3.Also true

4. True

5. True

6.Source or citation to back this claim ?

7.Yes thats true

8. true

9.Source or citation yet again

The Benin country was one of the African kingdom most visited by the europeans, And so many European ethnographers visited the kingdom to collect cultural information of the country benin, the most of european documentation written about benin kingdom are still yet to be explored , and even translated to English, sometimes the benin soldiers were hired by the europeans with the consent of the oba of benin, when the europeans needed to explore the hinterland of foreign old Nigerian territories

The ogisos (sky kings)
To find the truth behind ogiso dynasty if they truly existed we need to first interpret the Benin traditional worship believe system

The Benin traditional belief system is based on pure animism were they believe everyone that dies their spirit wonders around on earth to protect their loved ones... And an alter would be set for the deceased as a means to communicate to the dead spirit, the benins traditional system also believed on powerful monarchs the king of sea(olokun) and the king of the earth ( oba of benin) overtime the oba of benin became more powerful than than olokun... And had control over it
The benins believed on life on earth after death and and associated no spirituality to the sky, the benins believe in the gods of the wind, sun who comes together to bring rain they also believed these God's were on earth and not in the heavens


The question now is how did the ogiso narrative come into being ... If benins never associated relevance to heaven

Overtime the european Christian influence warranted some benins who were questioned by European ethnographers to give answers to these ethnographers that believe would suite them and not necessarily reality ...
The ogiso narrative was born out of european Christianity narrative of a sky king the benins were aware of this Christian narrative of Jesus christ through European missionaries and they gave answers to what they felt would be appealing.... And when the europeans enquired further on the existence of the ogiso the benins told the europeans that the ogiso ruled in the time of the earth had no sun or moon


Oba esigie who welcomed Christianity into benin after the Benin-idah war brought the osa(God) the sky king narrative who oversees everyone on earth.... From his time you will begin to hear edo names with the acronym osa

If ogiso were truly myth like what we have seeing then the title oba have always indigenous

The act making ogiso narrative real in benin history was an act to make the kingdom look older...

Olu317:
Ogiso was what they were using as a title and yes, when a new dynasty sprung up, the new system takes over which easily led to the change of name and title bearing.

The ile ibinu as exonym is quite right which also need consideration for it to be well established in the influence on the monarchial system, language, Art metal working etc .

So it will be absurdity to condemn the new identity from eleventh century or thereabout and pushed backwards to old order. Afterall there are account to that effect that there were many Yoruba migrant into Bini via Oranmiyan and before him.


Lastly, kindly read up the citation once more from my former post. Thank you

Ogiso are myth, olu you nor dey hear word you just want that shrine keeper called ooni to be falsely overlord of benin monarch lol... Yorubas and history stealing pity your ancestors were slaves to ours

The Benin country was one of the African kingdom most visited by the europeans, And so many European ethnographers visited the kingdom to collect cultural information of the country benin, the most of european documentation written about benin kingdom are still yet to be explored , and even translated to English, sometimes the benin soldiers were hired by the europeans with the consent of the oba of benin, when the europeans needed to explore the hinterland of foreign old Nigerian territories

The ogisos (sky kings)
To find the truth behind ogiso dynasty if they truly existed we need to first interpret the Benin traditional worship believe system

The Benin traditional belief system is based on pure animism were they believe everyone that dies their spirit wonders around on earth to protect their loved ones... And an alter would be set for the deceased as a means to communicate to the dead spirit, the benins traditional system also believed on powerful monarchs the king of sea(olokun) and the king of the earth ( oba of benin) overtime the oba of benin became more powerful than than olokun... And had control over it
The benins believed on life on earth after death and and associated no spirituality to the sky, the benins believe in the gods of the wind, sun who comes together to bring rain they also believed these God's were on earth and not in the heavens


The question now is how did the ogiso narrative come into being ... If benins never associated relevance to heaven

Overtime the european Christian influence warranted some benins who were questioned by European ethnographers to give answers to these ethnographers that believe would suite them and not necessarily reality ...
The ogiso narrative was born out of european Christianity narrative of a sky king the benins were aware of this Christian narrative of Jesus christ through European missionaries and they gave answers to what they felt would be appealing.... And when the europeans enquired further on the existence of the ogiso the benins told the europeans that the ogiso ruled in the time of the earth had no sun or moon


Oba esigie who welcomed Christianity into benin after the Benin-idah war brought the osa(God) the sky king narrative who oversees everyone on earth.... From his time you will begin to hear edo names with the acronym osa

If ogiso were truly myth like what we have seeing then the title oba have always indigenous

The act making ogiso narrative real in benin history was an act to make the kingdom look older...

What do we have here

Atigba:
The Binis are Yoruba descendants

Mugu

AutomaticMotors:
I like this insight inside Egharevba's actions I understand now his frame of mind at that time, do you have any info about his later years and his offsprings? I want to also ask you something tho unrelated how did Ohenhen die (heard accident)? And did he have any kids? And abeg " Atiti nu go " na actual woman ?

Atti nu go

Probably is a woman he sang it for atiti from Ugo village in benin

UGBE634:
then you never waka Nazee, I have seen many Binis and many Ogie-amiens who hold on to that view, to them especially for the fact that the Ekaladerhan story started in 1978 but they will not go about arguing with you, because na fanatic full Benin

Try they read bro

. You look like someone who is not after the truth but after your own personal interest

The oba is 100 percent edo

The oba was and still adored in benin today not because he is a stranger but because the benin tradition believes he is a God on earth
He doesn't have to come from Cameroon before the edo people would identify a divine person among them

The oba rewarded ezomo family in the olds when the oracle told the benins that only ezomo who was still a young boy In an unknown village in benin that could kill a spiritual elephant that was coming out to kill market women in the then ekiosa market, many benin hunters tried killing it but couldn't succeed until ezomo was chooosen by the oracle to be the one that would kill the elephant And after the Young boy ezomo killed the elephant he was rewarded by the Oba and later grew to become the militarily commander of the benin people

Are you now going to say ezomo was from far away yoruba land because he was special

AreaFada2
UGBE634
Samuk
Davidnazee

UGBE634:
Ede, I don't have a youtube channel, a youtube channel might be different from a youtube account. I have a youtube account which I use in watching videos right. But I don't have any videos on it, when I watch some of these Esan videos, I usually go to their comment to debunk these things. I seem too old for that now

Just stop claiming our oba is of a yoruba ancestry you have no substantial prove for it, we all here have debated on the history for quite a long time, before now we all believe on the oduduwa crap of an history if we can change our mindset towards that side of history then we are not dogmatic like you assume us to be you're simplying not convincing us

AreaFada2:
Dave, you sef get time o. Somebody who believes that everybody else has low IQ, can he learn from even Einstein?

Let him be.

The UGBE634 guy has self hate for the Oba one day he will spill it,


If Ugbe has been saying the truth since one of us here would have seen reason to side with him, but the guy keeps saying rubbish he thinks this is YouTube that's full of his family members and is village people listening to his crap