TAO11: Your brother said you’re a SLAVE of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin. Agree or disagree?
Go settle your internal struggle with him. Pick a date, time, and location.
You and your Yoruba brother ugbe are both mad
Imaginary ife, you're yet to present fact oromiyan was not made up by samuel johson.... When he was writing his story book on history of yorubas in 1897 But you're already claiming ife came from Benin grin If i open my price tagged thread and mention you to join me you will run faster than flash.... Ugbe is a yoruba pretending as Bini Bring evidence and stop talking in abstract all your brothers have fled again living you with the curse have placed on you to be always obsessed about bini till you run mad about it
TAO11: No, there are free borns in Benin. Tyler Oba’s family members from Ife, Umogun, are free borns.
Both the common folks whom they met in Benin are the Oba’s slaves.
But let me ask if @Etrusen, @gregyboy, and @Truthshots2 are proudly slaves of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin?
I need answers NOW
Imaginary ife, you're yet to present fact oromiyan was not made up by samuel johson.... When he was writing his story book on history of yorubas in 1897
But you're already claiming ife came from Benin
If i open my price tagged thread and mention you to join me you will run faster than flash....
Ugbe is a yoruba pretending as Bini
Bring evidence and stop talking in abstract all your brothers have fled again living you with the curse have placed on you to be always obsessed about bini till you run mad about it
TAO11: Yes, there is no NO such 1800 eUroPean or even cHinEse account which says a thing per ‘fairytale’ Ewuare!
Also there is no eYeWinTness writing which says a thing per ‘fairytale’ Ewuare.
So, both!
The fact that they saw obas and NEVER once mentioned Ewuare (or any of the several fairytales) makes your case even worse.
The Europeans’ presence in Benin, their meeting with the obas [while writing many things without saying one about fairytale Ewuare (or the other fairytales)] already makes it more certain that all these names and their stories are nothing but [b]Disney Cartoon[/b]s.
That is an 1800AD mention of Ewuare by the benin palace chiefs who visited benin palace shortly before European invaded benin city
The benins chief told roupell about oba Ewuare before benin invasion
Third image shows punch acknowledging to have meant esigie when thd Portuguese arrived in the shores of benin
Can we all see for, oromiyan. a writing account given by oyo people acknowledging oromiyan wasnt made made up after 1800,even if it not from oyo maybe from ife or even from benin
I want to see a written account of Benin palace chiefs mentioning oromiyan to the Europeans prior to benin invasion if they could mention Ewuare they should have mentioned oromiyan or ife gomojam DonCandido Amujale macof Sewgon79 lx3as nisai 2fine2fast Aphrygian Olu317 Obalufon geosegun
Are you aware Europeans saw oba of Benin ruking from 1400 to 1897
So please select those kings name out of it, we can assume the rest were myth since there was no eyewitnesses who saw their rule
Can we do thesame for oyo...??
If its so oromiyan never came to benin then this means oba was really indigenous to benin and was spread to Yoruba areas through benin military expansion
Now i never asked you for eyewitnesses only written documents
But you insist it must be eyewitnesses just to disprove Ewuare lol... You be mumu man
macof: You are always claiming anything not written by European eye witnesses is fairytale. You don't get to make exception for Ewuare. Present an eye witness account or keep shut The first "Oba" of Benin is Ovoranmwen if we go by your stupid logic
Have you read the article benin kinglist, Europeans indeed mentioned namea of kings in benin they encountered and saw physically
So starting from oba ovaramwen makes me want to knock your head
Again i dont request for eye witness account please i dont because it would make you yorubas cry i tried it once all of you cried on behalf of TAO11, so i made it just written account so please don't make it hard for yourself
I could say Ewuare didn't exist and it won't remove anything from Benin history but if i say oromiyan didnt exist due to lack if eye witness account na una go cry pass
nisai: The ones she's been spoon feeding you with what good have you made of it. We are now convinced that your brain cannot digest tested, peer reviewed and proven evidence.
She might provide evidence but for the open minded readers not block heads and petty revisionists like you.
Tell her to bring it, or get your lazy ass and help him instead of trolling
nisai: His writing style and dumbness will always give him out as a 'originally Gegyboy'. Lol.
Attack me with fact, proves, evidence, stop trying to link gregyboy to Edeyoung and divert attention
You say oromiyan cane to benin i say peove first if oromiyan existed by bringing evidence of oral encounters by the Europeans from the various tribe that presently accept oromiyan existence
Truthshots2: Until the 1930's, Yoruba monarchs were not addressed as Oba. Every text published before the 1930's which talk about any given yoruba monarch do not address him as "Oba". The first yoruba monarch to be addressed as "Oba" is adesoji aderemi who was not addressed as such in the beginning of his reign and only stole the title towards the mid to end of his reign and the other yoruba monarchs copied his copying.
That is why the date of publication of a paper is very important: it is a way to weed out revisionism.
True
Toa11, the transgender can you prove him wrong he said 1930 can we get 1929 from you
TAO11: Benin boy pretending to be dumb, or is he truly dumb?
Explaining what you probably already know: Asiri magazine (a modern magazine) posted it on its social media page before someone else claims credit.
Also, only British Knights are referred to as “Sir” by the British. Oba Adekoya was apparently NOT yet knighted by that year —1937
You are clearly too stupid to be alive.
You're stupid see mumu who you won decieve
That is a reprinted newspaper posted on a magazine
Sir is not for knight only you fool, any respected person could be adress as sir,
Sir, is what was used to refer in the original text unless you want to bring the original newspaper without the magazine attachments
The 1938 text i posted there made it clearly that the British referred him to his title bana d not oba
Why would the britsh refer him as oba when there is already a title known as oba for the oba of benin
Or probably the British believed the oba of benin ruled over all yoruba territories so they allowed yoruba oba have the title of oba to their names . That is the only possible explanation
TAO11: Because he conquered your daddies and mommies?
His name wasn’t written down by his family members, his friends, and his visitors.
Isn’t that your standard?
Isn’t he then a fairy tell by your own m0r0nic standard?
Ife attest to it. OyO attest to it. Your daddies and mommies attest to it. Ogiame family attest to it. Nupe attest to it. Bariba attest to it. Owu attest to it. Itsekiri (who regard themselves as descended through him) attest to it. Should I continue?
Saying Ogiemien attest to it, make you look dump because i told you the palace attest to the fairytale to troll your people and you taking it personal makes you a foolish man
Oyo is were the fairytale comes from, so it is normal to attest to it
As for the nupe and bariba, show me proves in their individual site were they attested to it
Mugu
Anything beyond 1914 written record dont post it as evidence
Anything you're posting about oromiyan existence should not pass 1914, because the European hace been in the shores of yorubas and oyo since 1400, so bring written proves
AreaFada2: The two common names for camp in Benin are Eko and later Ago. Ago became more popular for temporary civilian or farming settlements later. Though both were used militarily before too.
Benin is a very dynamic language. Words gain preference over others over time.
I like to watch Urhobo and Isoko films for example. There I hear words with clear Benin roots. Some were words still popular with old folks decade ago, all now late. In 25 years many people will believe that "kokodia" is purely only Urhobo word for coconut.
Okoro is pure Benin name for princes. Crown prince before investiture as EDAIKEN is called Okoro nokhua (Grand/Great Prince). Today Okoro is Urhobo name for "gentleman'.
Some only know Okoro as an Igbo name.
Like how ogene is a benin word but now mostly used by urhobos,
Balogunodua: Nope they are been used as sex slaves....sold by their brothers in 100 to italians and all over Europe up till date that is the worst form of slavery there is.....atleast those Yorubas sold into slavery were war captives and not some Edo peeps who chose slavery as a way of life in this modern time cuase it's in their DNA...
We all know who the real undisputed slaves are in Nigeria those whose sisters, aunties and mothers are been trafficked on daily basis all over Europe for prostitution...haha...what a shame
Were they capture nope, were they sold by their people nope, were they chained nope, were they made to work in farms nope
You need slap too much hausa food on your brain northern man
babtoundey: With what evidence? You think pounded yam is popular only among Nigerian tribes? How can a sane person open his mouth and say bread is a British food while jollof-rice is an American food. Making statements like this telltale of your immaturity.
Go to gregyboy profile and read the thread on egusi and pounded is edo food
babtoundey: With what evidence? You think pounded yam is popular only among Nigerian tribes? How can a sane person open his mouth and say bread is a British food while jollof-rice is an American food. Making statements like this telltale of your immaturity.
sesan85: Lol, you're teaching the same delusional people who claim Awolowo drank rat poison or that Buhari has been cloned? The same Dahomean Amazons that were ferociously massacred in Abeokuta which made Rev Ajayi Crowther to greatly despise Ghezo because he couldn't understand why Ghezo would deliberately put women in harms way? According to Rumi, "you can beat 40 scholars with one fact, but you can't beat one idiot with 40 facts." So, expecting all these ill-educated IPOB and Bini kids to make historical facts their watchword is like teaching poetry to goats. I salute your patience and perseverance in teaching and educating these nitwits though. It's not easy.
samuk: You never missed an opportunity to misinform the gullible and less informed. You prey on people's ignorance alot, I don't know if this is deliberate or you are just less informed yourself or you don't think about your logical conclusions before you present them.
You start by presenting a faulty narrative to prepare your gullible students and then support your hypothesis with unrelated citations to make your argument look and sound authentic.
Your submission and citations doesn't explain how some genetically Edo people ended up in America.
Reasons why your logic is faulty:
According to your own citations/reference, the raids into Edo North by either the Nupe or Ibadan happened after the middle of the 19th century.
1. Your reference didn't say that Edo villagers were captured and sold into slavery, this is your assumption.
2. By the later part of 19th century when these raids in Edo North were said to have occurred, transatlantic slave trade was already banned in America. See below.
The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 (2 Stat. 426, enacted March 2, 1807) is a United States federal law that provided that no new slaves were permitted to be imported into the United States. It took effect on January 1, 1808, the earliest date permitted by the United States Constitution. Long title: AN ACT to prohibit the importation of slaves, into any port or place within t... Effective: January 1, 1808 Enacted by: the 9th United States Congress
3. Though there were still illegal trades in slavery up till 1870, most of the cargoes went to the sugarcane and cotton plantations of the Caribbean.
4. People of Edo origin/heritage could have become victims of the transatlantic slave trade through other means but not through your wishful thinking.
5. There are people and tribes from Lagos, eastern Yoruba, south east, south south and middle belt Nigeria that traces their origins to Benin. Edo indigines could have become victims of the transatlantic slave trade through anyone of these people/tribes not through Nupe and Ibadan raids in Edo North in the middle to late 19th century when Benin was in decline.
6. I have already disproved that Ogane couldn't be Ife, please stop deceiving people with it.
7. Archeological study of Ife dates the earliest settlements to the first decade of 16th century. Ogane/Benin history was recorded in the 15th century.
8. Ogane was said to be in the opposite direction from Benin, not the direction of Ife.
9. Ogane was said to be a 20 moons or months travel from Benin and a distance of about 900 miles, Ife is less than 200 miles from Benin and the journey couldn't have taken 20 moons or months.
10. Ogane does not sounds like Ife, Oduduwa or Ooni.
11. Please don't tell me that there were artworks found in Ife older than 16th century, even if this is true, which I doubt, it doesn't prove they were made in Ife.
12. Hope you will not come back with insults as usual after you have been lectured.
Thsee days she is becoming exhausted, although She is fooling her people but deep down she is battling her conscience that she has lost
There is still higher probability that those visitors mistook benin republic for benin city
And if it was edo people, it would be likely edo north which i doubt myself , if those raids on edo north were successful, why haven't we heard of nearby tribes bouldering edo north as slaves returneess
Those people are from benin Republic Like kogi, igala and co.....
TAO11: Apparently, the Yoruba language came to the rescue of all West African slaves, including the Edo slaves who both at home and in slavery were subjected to the Yoruba language. Wonderful! ——————
In the video report below, many African-Americans of Edo ancestry trace their roots back to the Edo kingdom of Benin.
Yes, African Americans. Yes, the same people whose ancestors found themselves in the Americas via the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Yes, they trace themselves back home to Benin kingdom.
Now I know your insecurity and defense mechanism would kick in to cause you to pretend to be unsure of how their Edo ancestors got enslaved and sold off in the first place. Lol.
Well, the testimony obtained from the Edos themselves by the late Professor R. E. Bradbury during his ethnographic survey of Benin kingdom is very telling in that regards.
Refer to the embedded image below (from page 112 of R. E. Bradbury’s “The Benin Kingdom and the Edo-Speaking Peoples of South Western Nigeria”, 1957) for some educative information in that regards:
Now, that you’ve found out how your people were enslaved and sold-off by the Yorubas, the difference you must now realize is that many Yorubas who were sold-off fought their freedom back home.
However, all the enslaved Edos (on the other hand) remained slaves in the Americas perpetually ad-infinitum.
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