RedboneSmith:
It should be stated that Ubulu-Uku traditions do not agree with Benin traditions on how the war ended. Ubulu-Uku maintains that the war ended in a stalemate and Obi Olise survived it to reign in Ubulu-Uku till he died of old age.

There is a quarter in Ubulu-Uku today called Umuidu (Idu descendants) which was founded by some Benin soldiers that took part in the war. After the campaign failed (so says Ubulu-Uku traditions) some Benin soldiers, afraid to return to Benin and face the wrath of the Oba, decided to settle down at Ubulu-Uku and were graciously absorbed.

There is no objective reason why the Edo-centric version should be held to be the accurate version, and the Ubulu-Uku one as false.

HillaryNelo:
i believe u don't mind those comments abv they don't mean wat they are saying . Spread the gospel to d world

fados4sure:
Chilax they will send the code to your door step. Mine took 28 days then

Fezz:


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Fezz:


I wouldn't necessary say the Benin/ife is a myth. It's too early in the game for you to jump the gun and go public in exposing anything online. You need to be sure beyond reasonable doubt before you make such a conclusion. The only part in history I believe everything turned upside down was when the Ooni status was elevated to number one king in hierarchy. He shouldn't be on that list because he's not a direct son of Oodua.

Peace would have reigned if they announced the oba of benin as number one king in hierarchy because his royal stool seniors that of alafin of oyo. At the end of the day, the oba of benin was betrayed and that is why he asked for Midwest to be established. He made up his mind from that time that he will not take the yorubas as his brothers again because he saw through their plan of robbing him of his royal status as the number one king in the south.

I advise you to be patient because the truth will unfold itself very soon. It's all moving in the right direction.

TAO11:


Swear to what? That what?

Say it explicitly Oga.

The way I wrote it out below. Say

“I [Insert “gregyboy” or “Edeyoung”] Swear with Ogun that I don’t know within me that the oba of Benin is patrilineally an Ile-Ife indigene.”

And if my declaration here is a lie, Ogun please pieces my body in a fatal motor accident.”

TAO11:


Swear with Ogun that you don’t know within you that your oba is patrilineally an Ile-Ife indigene.

Swear that Ogun should pieces your body in a fatal motor accident if you lie.

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Cheers!

Truthshots2:

I tried explaining this to that Izoduwa guy, since he has a forum, I thought he could broadcast it.

The best way to deal with this is to have an open televised debate moderated by educated and smart people.

Or to have history professors from Europe come and explain what history is about in Nigerian TV. Nigerian historians are quacks.

It is sad to say, but most nigerians are extremely ill educated and of little intelligence. I sometimes feel that trying to educate them is like trying to pave an ocean with 5 bricks, the bricks get swallowed by the sea.

TV channels like CNN and BBC and Aljazeera could be very helpful in exposing these myths and educating the masses. It might be good to contact the BBC about this. Those who I've in the UK should try m, I will try the next time I visit the UK.

Jagunlabiodua:


Now you know more than the Yorubas, Oni, OBA of Benin, Oranmiyan, Alafin, Oyo empire, let me just kill your argument once and for all so that you do not have a heart attack that Benin-Delta belongs to Oduduwa, The British came to Benin more than 300-500yrs after Oranmiyan founded Benin. Benin is a Yoruba word, Edo is a Yoruba tribe, who speaks Yoruba as found in Akoko Edo and Benin OBA is a Yoruba King from ILE IFE.

Truthshots2:


Sorry, I get quoted so much that I didn't notice your quoting me. Some slave descendents who claim to be yari.ba just keep quoting me as if they were praying to me which is why I ignore most quotes of me. Could you ask the question again please ?

TAO11:
If you know any Bini who is NOT yet my rag let such person talk to me.





By the way, I asked for five (5) different oceans, what is this one swimming pool you’re bringing.

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KingOKON:
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So Bobrisky can be this bitchy

TAO11:
Another incoherent heap of jibbe
r-jabber as is to be expected.

TAO11:


Cry me five (5) different oceans in addition to your above heap of jibber-jabber.

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Fezz:


The Oba thinks otherwise and I agree with him. It's only best you believe in the Ekelederan/oduduwa history because it is very plausible.Ekelederan is the originator of yoruba kings and time will expose everything.

Kindly remind me of the proposal, I probably didn't see it.

TAO11:
You’re an irredeemable dullard.

The words of that attachment (shown again below) are NOT Ryder’s words.

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Rather, those are the words of another scholar who is simply citing Ryder 1969 (in footnote 67) as an example of scholars who identify the Ogane (Oghene) as the Ooni of Ife.

In other words, A. F. C. Ryder’s position changed from his guess of 1965 to his firm conclusion of 1969.

Others who confirmed that Ryder later abandoned his guess of 1965 in his later work of 1969 are Professors Elizabeth A. Isichei and Peter U. Isichei.

If you threaten your parents with suicide, they will surely buy you the book no matter how poor they are.

My duty is not to buy you books (that’s your parent’s duty), my dusty is to cite you full detailed references.

I have done that for you. Adam Knobler has done that for you. E. A. Isichei has done for you. P. U. Isichei has done that for you. See below for the detailed reference once again:

Alan F. C. Ryder, “Benin and the Europeans, 1485-1897,” (New York: Humanities Press, 1969) p. 31.

Now it is your parents’s to turn to do their part. Hold them tightly, and they will buy you the book. Or are they so poor?

TAO11:
Oh ye @Edeyoung (aka @gregyboy), how many times must your A.F.C. Ryder screenshot be debunked before you feel ashamed of yourself ??



Please point out one statement of fact/certainty from your A.F.C. Ryder 1965 screenshot. I would wait.

While I’m waiting, refer carefully to the page below for a citation of A.F.C. Ryder 1969, p.31. — 4 years later.

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Cheers!

Cc: Fezz

TAO11:
TAO11 aka TAO12; PhD Dumb Revisionism



https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/37#101032103

Cc: Fezz

TAO11:


https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/37#101032103

Cc: Fezz

Fezz:


Well.. says the guy that I responded to, claiming that the entire Benin people are yoruba. It's no longer the Benin royal house he wants to claim, it's now the entire Benin populace. Very funny! You and your yoruba brothers should go and hijack another tribe because Benin is out of your league.

Fezz:


This is outrageous and laughable . How many people followed Oranmiyan from ile-ife to Ubini, excluding the Benin Chiefs that convinced him to rule them as their rightful heir. Let's start from there? I'm waiting

pete1234:
I am terribly heart broken at the moment, I played a fool all along, when I love I love with all my heart and soul I detest cheating or double dating, but lo and behold I have been stabbed in the heart by my girlfriend of three years.

She was misbehaving I asked her wat the issue is she said nothing, she came to my place the next day cooked for me and then broke the news

I don't really know what I feel for u, I have waited three yrs for u,someone is actively asking for my hand in marriage.

This is somone I told that in April I will visit her people even went ahead to put a call across reminding them.

During our last discussion I begged her saying if I do not go this April then she can give the guy a go ahead, unknown to me she had already in someway given the guy her word while we where in the relationship.

She now tells me it's too late, I pleaded she says none of us should call her for the next one month that she wants to think. Or confused.

I will never put my eggs in one basket ever again. I will be a super bad boy now as I am terribly torn in my heart.

Pls if u read carefully I spoke to her sister of my coming prior before this whole thing, is it still ok to call BK informing her that I will not come again

Truthshots2:


Tsola is not legally the olu of warri for two reasons:
1) he hasn't been coronated
2) the law disqualifies him


Itsikeri are not yoruba, only the people of oyo are yoruba. The Itsikeri are of the same ethnicity as the Esan, Urhobo, Anioma and all other Edo people.

LeoThaGreat:

You're using logic & facts with a dimwitted Bini imperialist. He wants Bini to retain their colonialism of other smaller tribes while those ones are fighting not to remain vassals of an extinct empire. It is similar to a Turk putting nose in affairs of Saudi Arabia because Turkey, through the Ottoman empire once held power over Saudi.
Kolewerk !
Empires come & go. Even the British empire is in its last days.
He's no different from an average Nigerian Fulani who wants them to retain control over Hausas and even extend beyond Hausaland.

People like that will never learn.
Let him keep dwelling on old glory and not focus on forging new ones.

PS: All but one of my paternal aunts and uncles are from an Itsekiri mom. My lineage lived in Itsekiri land for over 30 years

Xilsbridalhouse:

How can he convince them? A country full of internet fraudsters? Sorry, even I wouldn’t dare and I’m not even Buhari’s fan.

Juliusmalema:


Even Delta Just hinted on editing the whole edict.

So rest, you lose out again.

Juliusmalema:


Trash.

Infact Yorubas should iron the edict to remove Bini from meddling in the affairs of their kin Itshekiri despite Benin themselves being Yorubas.