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Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 8:00pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Abovebonny3: Oyo was nor an emire it was a kingdom made by a confederacy Qualities which defies oyo to be ancempire An empire is noticeable: oyo was said to be an empire after the Europeans have settled in nigeria for abour 100yrs and yet it wasn't noticeable to the British or European, what kind of empire is that It never had military or economic sovereignty over it vassal All vassal refused they were ruled by oyo or even deniel oyo having sovereignty over it Only dahomey claim and accept such account, the part oyo ruled on dahomey was the yorubas soeaking part who had migrated due to war |
Culture / Re: Ooni Ife Gifted Ajobiewe A Brand New Car (video) by Edeyoung: 6:57pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Ooni of ife is not an oba he is historically a native doctor, awolowo made him king At 1930 sir adesuji adewhatever.... Who was the ooni of ife Decided to remove the word sir from his name and replaced it with the word oba inother to promote his stool and have an international recognition recognition as oba of benin, the benin monarch smiled at it since they never saw any harm in it, After sir adusuwaji changed from sir to oba trust the others to follow suit But today yorubas wants to use it to rewrite benin history with lies History should be told correctly Am still waiting for the people who will storm this thread witg their myth which sprang up after almagation told to forcefully unite benin as yoruba as proves Now wonder why there became a counter history from the benins after the left western region Let them come and tell us how come throughout benin relationship with European, the European never took note of benin-ife relationships if indeed existed, Even When the Europeans made mention of, other tribes like ijebu, urhobo, ijaw, dahomey, Ghana owo, eko relationships with Bini but managed not To notice ife benin relationships... Dont be decieved the Oduduwa myth is frictional and not historical, yorubas in the first palace were never united until the britsh united them forcefully after the yoruba Civil war of 1894 Picture one shows two yorubas discussing on the validity of ife as an ancestral home for yorubas Picture is from afc rydwe, a reconsideration of benin-ife relationships written in 1930 1 Share
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Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 6:05pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Announcement to everyone gregyboy would be unbanned tomorrow for the unjust banned he was giving by a yoruba coward mods 600yrs for all the yoruba mods TAO11 TAO12 Balogunodua Newton gomojam Yoruba right. Now
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Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 6:00pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 6:00pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:58pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Newton85: You talj nonsense Cho cho cho close your mouth, where were you when gregyboy proved all tgis idol and the title oba to be from binis Dint draw us back oks |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:55pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Etinosa12345: Pm me bro |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:54pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Etinosa12345: See if youre attacking yoruba stick to old records 1800 below, if you stick to anything above 1900 You kill yourself na that century na them rewrite their history finsh Stick to old text and maintain your stance, and anything they are bringing from benin must be old text too For now go and read the history of the yorubas by Samuel johson keep usinf samuoe johson account to hammer them they will run |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:45pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Balogunodua: Can you imagine the nonsense he spills from his hands |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:41pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
TAO11: If you see gregboy you will wee on yoyr pant Stop telling lies, is not everything you tell lies ke and gregboy hits you thesame doesn't mean we are same person |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:38pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Abovebonny2: And i proved you wrong |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:35pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
PORNeIlusHUBson: Oyo wasn't an empire
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Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:23pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Abovebonny: Would you shut up before i stone you from here Shut up your mouth i will tell you 100 reason why sokoto was not an empire nonsense You see that book, i snapped they detailed sokoto caliphate carefully Nor go talk wetin u nor go fit defend oo Schloars dey here
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Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 5:17pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Abovebonny: You're wrong now lemme explain, benin was the most recognized african kingdom known by the Europeans and most feared and respected The Anglo - ashanti war was an attack and a counter attack, it was not a war intentionally intended by the British to surpress the ashanti as a colony, it was a battle of dispute between the British and ashanti people, it was in 1897 the British finally opted for ashanti colonialism, it was no play as usual, few months after benin fell, ashanti fell too guess what? the mechinery leftover used in conquering benin was what was used for ashants and they fell Who are the soldiers the British used in defeating ashanti, hausa service men recruited from northern part of nigeria, those soldiers just finsh defeating benin months later The benin British war was the first war benin had with European and the binis were taking by surprise, it was a war for colonization and not that of dispute, the war was official the military weapons used in defeating benin was the one used in sacking ashanti, Note : the British never undermined benin military power, they prepared for it, the British didnt even have the money for military weapons but they found away out, letter was written from the niger coast to Britain for militarily equipments to storm benin, weapons from cape coast i.e south africa were gathered to fight in benin, a British submarine ship was involved too named after ovaremwen , the military power the British used in fighting benin was far more than that of the ashanti and xhosa war The war lasted 3 months, not 9 days, guerrilla warefare continued for extra 2yrs When you read the anshanti-anglo war, one thing you will deduce from the war is insult by the British people on the ashanti culture which prompted those short wars those insult never occurred in benin Note again Just imagine some foreigners coming to insult your kingdom by taking your colony, dictating trade, boundaries for you( ashanti), the British force practically insulted the anshantis and double dare them, all the ashanti did was to react To it, by waging war most of the war they fought Couldn't or even surpress the British forces As for the xhosa, how do you win a war and yet you were still colonize by the people you defeated if you have defeated them you should have ruled over them and colonized them instead I repeat again the military weapon used to bring bini down is far greater than that of those two shunnis you mentioned up there, and the intentions was direct to colonize Ibo guy go sit down darty they your eye Gregyboy |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 3:07pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Balogunodua: Lol.... I guess you don't If gregyboy was d one debating TAO11 directly tears and wailing will be flooding the comment 1 Like 1 Share |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:59pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
bonjovi787: You guys really dont know benin history do you Here is a screenshot from gregyboy Oba eweka11 agreeing ooni of ife was oghene n uhe, who he used to pray to I can explain beyond this because if i do i will only make you guys more confused You have ti learn it yourself I will give you one screenshot you can ask Tao11 to give you more Just ask her Tao11 give me quote were benin obas admitted to be from ife Wahala she will flood you with it
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Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:38pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Etinosa12345: That treatu has nothing to do with ife please dont Indulge yourself with myth that treaty was a different history on his own, And it has no relationship to with ekaladeran Ekalderhan story existed independentky too... |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:36pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Balogunodua: Do you want me to prove it with screenshot Hmm!? |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:35pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
PORNeIlusHUBson: We are not coward we are straight foward people Unlike the cunning yorubas who wouldn't tell their kingsmen the truth... Yorubas are like rat that blows you breeze before eating your feet |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:24pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Etrusen: You have little knowledge yoruba history and also that of bini, you only know the periphery of both history, You dont know bini history on a research background, just admit to yourself you dont know and we will find books for you to read |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:17pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 2:07pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Obalatule: Yoruba is a bini subgroup what the yoruba are speaking today is a form of benin language spoken wrongly |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 1:09pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Etrusen: The yorubas are lovely people is just Tao11 soiling them with hate and her obsession, the other outside culture thread knows benin historically suppressed their weak ancestors On real ground if you mention youre bini to a Yoruba man they would never want to see your anger I forget to do a screenshot on the yoruba hebrew thread when a Yoruba guy accepted the word oba is originally binis Do you know what she said when i showed her, she was speechless and claim, if the yoruba giy who admitted it was an author from dat dayi just know she just an afonja The real yorubasl dont tell lies She is just Obassed we bleeped her ancestors up |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 10:40am On Dec 07, 2020 |
TAO11: Desperado transgendered |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 10:39am On Dec 07, 2020 |
Obalatule: Lol, the oba claims ife came fron him..... Atleast ww dont believe him, on that But it seems you believe the ooni of ife own side of the history so prove it, prove your ooni right 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 10:37am On Dec 07, 2020 |
samuk: Obalatule just woke uo from dream Benin-ife relationships is too farfetched He should prove oyo-ife relationships with archeological finding or writeup which proves oyo originated from ife, or prove ife-oyo father and son relationship Just watch how they will cry foul 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 10:32am On Dec 07, 2020 |
Obalatule: Did you see my thread were i said niggas like you should prove bini - ife had a connection Without the useless oral account flying up and down 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 10:12am On Dec 07, 2020 |
TAO11: This particular comment made me send you into Oblivion the last time The last time i asked that little sculpture found in the palace if it was ooni of ife why is different from the vast ife sculpture both in costume and in shape You were dumbfounded I also present fact that that sculpture most likely was from an eastern Yoruba area bini had extensive contact with You make me laugh, So if that sculpture could be found in benin from ife that automatically means every other yoruba should have one of those sculpture buried in their palaces to show they had relationship with ife I will be needing such sculpture from every palace of every yoruba clan only benin can't be an exemption By so doing we can be assured it was a deliberate act from ife to show sovereignty and connection to her children Samuk see the transgendered aka amazingly dullard wanting to catch crusie with that owo sculpture found in the oba palace she is claiming it as ife sculpture to Etrusen to deceive him Benin love documenting on sculpture, they documented sculptures of western ibos kings and their ladies in benin, yet they manage to skip their ancestral town ife TAO11 obsession will not end you, repeat after me I ilke your obsession anyway it has we bini than you 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Benin Remain The Center Of West Africa Civilization by Edeyoung: 12:43am On Dec 07, 2020 |
TAO11: Gregyboy got banned for no reason, they are cowards I would be replacing gregyboy if you dont see my comment know i got banned too unjustfuly Etrusen Etinosa1234 Samuk Davidnazee
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Culture / Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 7:10pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
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Culture / Oba And The Powerful Wizard Osopa-kahrha(the Okp by Edeyoung: 7:07pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
At, 1804 obanosa was crowned the oba of benin This is the history of obanosa known as prince osifo, ■While obanosa, was still prince osifo who was the son of oba akengbuda, prince osifo had a look alike both in age and appearance, osopa-kahrha who was a wizard, osopa-kahrha was the son of chief ahiye who was the esogban of benin he leaved at ugbague quarters present day benin city. Osopa-kahrha of the powerful benin witch coven, the witch coven was called eniwaren-ason elders of the night, oba akengbuda was the patron and his wife ose an esan queen who was the mother of osifo was the matron, this two dandies, prince osifo the ediaken n uselu and the osopa-kahrha of ugbague quarters in the city, hated each other for various reasons, osifo was said to have hated osopa-kahrha for his pretension attitudes his popularity, his guts his flamboyant lifestyle which he use to showoff, osopa-kahrha hated ediaken for hating his guts, and his flamboyant and trying to always restrict him from his various activities in the city of benin particularly trying every means to restrict his popularity in the city, benin city proved not to be large enough to accommodate these two people, prince osifo had promise several times when he got on an heated argument with osopa-kahrha that when he is made king he will have him killed, prince osifo was crowned obanosa the people nickname him obanosa(syking) he was known to be a very wise king, when he became the oba of benin, he disregarded the caution giving to him by his parents not to kill osopa-kahrha, he ordered for the death of osopa-kahrha the warlok ■The orders to kill the warlock osopa-kahrha by obanosa was inexcusable but perhaps understandable there was confirmed cases of osopa-kahrha proclaiming himself as oba-nason the king of the night and he had continued provocatively and demonstratively to match the oba of benin hehad further raised his stakes in his contest of the palace he had become the lover of the queen mother the iyoba ose the mother of obanosa in her palace at uselu, carrying out the orders to kill osopa-kahrha was matched streeet fighting with a great deal of bravado and dare devilry existed by both sides defeating osopa-kahrha troops became a mini civil war, in which it was said about five thousand Persons died the whole street adjoining ugbague Quaters was permanently deserted the precursor of modern mission road in benin suffered the greatest despoliation and it became defunct as earlier mentioned by Lt. R. O'shee map of benin city about 100yrs after the war showed no future for the then conquered mission road as the whole was still in ruins of the war, After osopa-kahrha death one thing led to the other the monarch fell ill, and it was confirmed that his mother displeasure on osopa-kahrha death had caused the monarchs illness, and obanosa immediately ordered for her death, at her palace in uselu, using the same method used in displacing oba ohen from the throne, she was stoned to death, after her suuden death, quickly rushed to do her ritual burial rites so as not to get her soul lost in between life and death which afflicted lost soul A few days after the death of his mother and successful completion of her burial rites, obanosa died vindicating osopa-kahrha warnings Oba no bi ekhue, kevbe ekhu, ero gba yowa Meaning a hand that opens door, goes along with the direction the door goes to |
Culture / The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 6:32pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
I hope i dont get banned by yoruba mods for this The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800 If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital You know the rest The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie Note Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title Note Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later drooped it 1 Like
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