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Earthquake3:
You can say the same for Dembele, Richalison before they were bought

Joao Felix was bought for 126 million and nobody knows how he plays

They are younger. Zaha is 27. Simple. Dembele played and preformed in the ucl. Potential >>.
Zaha is not established enough to make that argument with.

Earthquake3:
Richalison had 3 goals before he was bought for 50 million, Zaha had 20+ goals involvement in the last season and should be worth more

Ryan Fraser has more assists, created more chances and also had 20+ goal involvement yet I bet you wouldn't say he's a 90m player if he had a contract like Zaha?

barackodam:
Sorry, a harmless question.

Who would replace Musa in the team?

Onyekuru. Don't think Musa should retire yet sha.

Super Eagles coach Rohr to be sacked – Report

 by scorebig

 

 July 1, 2019 6:00 pm

Gernot Rohr - On the way out?

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Whatever happens with the Super Eagles at the AFCON in Egypt, coach Gernot Rohr will be fired according to Sporting Life.

Three-time African champions Nigeria, who are ranked 42nd in the world by FIFA, lost 2-0 to debutants Madagascar, who are 108th in the world, Sunday to finish runners-up in Group B of the AFCON.

The daily all-sports newspaper quoted top NFF officials that whatever the outcome of the Eagles outing at the AFCON, Rohr will be sent packing.

The report said lawyers are currently studying how best to terminate his contract.

Last week, news broke that he is owed several months’ pay and a World Cup bonus promised him since 2017 had not been kept.

Rohr, 66, is in the final year of his contract after he extended his tenure by two more years just before last year’s World Cup.

He qualified the country to the 2018 World Cup in Russia, where the team failed to go past the first round.

Rohr also led the Eagles to the 2019 AFCON after they failed to qualify for the previous two editions back-to-back.

Hmmm I'm not too sure about this..

Earthquake3:
Hmm Zaha is better and more consistent

Consistent? Zaha has only had one season close to elite.

Earthquake3:
Richalison scored 3 goals last 2 seasons Everton bought him for 50 million

If Zaha was Brazilian, Real Madrid would have tabled 100 million for him

Richarlison is younger and has more upside. He's scored 13 last season for Everton. Zaha is 27 and has not had double digits goals and assists for more than 3 seasons.

Taliban:
Now u are talking, if you value the player they add, then one us getting close to the Crystal Palace valuation.
Which player will that be? I don't expect any if the younger players in my opinion. We will see how it all unfolds.

Don't know but I'm betting it might be Chambers. I personally would go 40 plus a player.

Earthquake3:
Zaha is in arguably the best winger in EPL possibly Europe

90 million is not too much for him, Dembele was bought for 120 million

We've had this debate before. Dembele is younger and had better numbers in two different leagues.
Zaha is 27 - not a prospect.

darkelf:
True talk. They should take it or leave it

Zaha himself was foolish to sign a new deal last season. He should fire his agent.

Earthquake3:
Wanbisaka was bought for 50 million, Zaha should be 80-90 million

80 - 90 million based on what?? Palace can keep him then. No club in their right mind will pay that amount for him.
I'm hearing Arsenal may go back with 55m plus a player.

Earthquake3:
Arsenal have bid 40 million for Wilfred Zaha

45-50m is a decent amount for him. Palace are dreaming if they think they'll get 100m for him.

It's OFFICIAL!!

charlesemeka85:
our worst era is can never be compared to your best era

Oga calm down small ooo...

Mikel signs for Trabzonspor. A bit disappointed with this move tbh.

IronGalaxy:
Again. It all boils down on what you can do on the field and not who you play for. For the umpteenth time

And for the umpteenth time, I haven't seen what Tau can do with the ball that Iwobi can't. Simple.

IronGalaxy:
oh." 2nd Division in Belgium" the next time I hear I'll swear puke. we all know how he got there.

Not my problem. If he was as good as you say - Brighton would paid more than 10m which would've helped him get a work permit.
Why didn't he go to a better team?

darkelf:
Una wey dey follow southie argue for ball, una get time oo

By this time sef

na wa

Nah the guy thinks he can deceive us. I've always criticized Iwobi for his lack of consistency but to say Percy Tau is better is hilarious...I've watched both and nothing anyone will say will make me believe otherwise.

IronGalaxy:
Yes he is. Iwobi doesn't show up for Arsenal and for Nigeria and Tau does for both club and country.

This convo is running in circles now. I think iwobi is average and that's what I think. I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings man. I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over

So am i. If Iwobi is average - so is Tau. Iwobi plays better at a much superior team.
Finito.

IronGalaxy:
Nicholas Pepe is a superior player to Tau. His records at Lille point to that. He also performs well for his national team . Including Zaha


Iwobi is not unfortunately.

Iwobi is better. He is two years younger and his records also show it.
That's why Arsenal can afford to give him a new contract after getting 25m bids while Tau is playing in the second division at Belgium.
If Iwobi is overrated - so is Tau. Tau wouldn't even play as much as Iwobi if he was at Arsenal.

IronGalaxy:
Iwobi is overrated. And many are better than him including Tau

And maybe, one or two Madagascan players

Capiche

Of course. Just like Tau is better than Zaha and Pepe because he performed against Namibia and in the MIGHTY MIGHTY MIGHTY Belgian second division.

IronGalaxy:
how is it beyond ridiculous? If you say player A is better because he plays plays in league A and I provide a better player (B) nonetheless that never played in league A. I'm begining to think you're slow. Yes, Tau has not bossed Afcon, that was the first game and he was mOTM against Namibia and your Iwobi has not shown shone in all your games against lesser opponents despite playing in the EPL. Did I say Tau did well in the Club World Cup? I don't recall saying that, I merely showed you that playing in a big tournament doesn't mean you are good player.

So by being good you must be vindicated by an English top 6 club? Sometimes I don't understand how you Nigerian think. I think you are oblivious to the fact that many African players start at these smaller leagues and make their way up. Yaya Toure started at smaller Beveren in Belgium and we all know where he end up, Drogba was playing at Guingamp at some point and weren't they good then?

Nitpicking the odd good game that iwobi had in the champions league means nothing. I don't recall saying Tau will be MVP or whatever , I never said Tau was Messi but he influences his national teams games more so as his club games . I have not seen Iwobi doing anything special, he's essentially a poor man's Rashford

So Tau hasn't performed at the CWC, didn't boss the CAF CL but according to you I'm to accept he is better than Iwobi because he performed in the Belgian second division and against Namibia - yet I'm slow?? LMAO!!! Next time don't make comparisons that doesn't make sense.
We might as well say Tau is better than Zaha and Nicolas Pépé then since he's performed better in AFCON so far.

IronGalaxy:
how is it beyond ridiculous? If you say player A is better because he plays plays in league A and I provide a better player (B) nonetheless that never played in league A. I'm begining to think you're slow. Yes, Tau has not bossed Afcon, that was the first game and he was mOTM against Namibia and your Iwobi has not shown shone in all your games against lesser opponents despite playing in the EPL. Did I say Tau did well in the Club World Cup? I don't recall saying that, I merely showed you that playing in a big tournament doesn't mean you are good player.

So by being good you must be vindicated by an English top 6 club? Sometimes I don't understand how you Nigerian think. I think you are oblivious to the fact that many African players start at these smaller leagues and make their way up. Yaya Toure started at smaller Beveren in Belgium and we all know where he end up, Drogba was playing at Guingamp at some point and weren't they good then?

Nitpicking the odd good game that iwobi had in the champions league means nothing. I don't recall saying Tau will be MVP or whatever , I never said Tau was Messi but he influences his national teams games more so as his club games . I have not seen Iwobi doing anything special, he's essentially a poor man's Rashford

I "nitpicked" games against big teams that Iwobi has performed against. Can you "nitpick" the same with Tau at club heck even country level despite his good goal scoring record?? There is nothing Tau can do with the ball that Iwobi can't and most especially isn't playing on a higher level. Any neutral fan who has watched both extensively will say the same.
Players start at lower levels? So what?? Can you say Yaya Toure was better than Diaby when he was playing at Belgium? Could you say Sane was better than Alexis Sanchez when he was Southampton?? Didn't the respective players I mentioned improve after moving to a bigger club and proving themselves??
If anything - you are the overhyping Tau more than any Nigerian on NL has done with Iwobi.
You were the one that brought up his MVP performances at the belgian second division as proof that he's better than Iwobi - not me.
Iwobi has played at a higher level and has performed better. You are actually the one that is slow.
Next time when you want to do a player comparison - don't bring up second division performances against a YOUNGER player that is playing at a tougher league and is competing against tougher players.
Tau is not a better player than Iwobi and nothing will change that....not his man of the match performance against Namibia or his performances at the belgian second division.
Finito.

IronGalaxy:
based on those performances he was still better than many players playing in Europe who couldn't do jack at National team's games. Aboutrika also performed for Al ahly what are you saying now?

Okay, now you're just playing dumb. I said it before and I'm saying again ,my comparisons of the two has to do with with the players' performances both club and country. Iwobi gets missing in club and country games and that's fact. Tau is the best player in the South African team and his club and you can't say the same about IWobi all you do is Keep bringing up where plays as if that has a bearing on his talent and when I rightly point out that I can even compare your iwobi to a player that payed in Egypt you shift gears and I can go a step further and say my neighbor who plays for an amature team is better than IWobi because he really is.lol

Iwobi has played in the champions league and Europe but so is smalling and Jones, that proves nothing. Did he stand out. Did he win man of the match. Did he make an assist etc ? He was just there. Tau also partook in Club World Cup will I now say he's a better player based on that?

Onyekuru playing in Belgium can be better than Zaha if Zaha is not scoring in the EPL or doing anything for the national team or just being average like how iwobi is. Again I repeat it doesn't matter where you play, what matters is what you do on the field. I really thought that would sink in by now seeing how Madagascar walloped your as.ses.

Aboutrika is known as a top player due to his performances not just in the CAF champions league and Club World Cup but his performances at AFCON.
The fact you're trying to use Aboutrika as an example is beyond Hilarious. Tau has not bossed AFCON, didn't do well in the club world championship and sure as hell isn't winning an MVP in the AFCON yet you think you can say he's better than Iwobi? You think if he was that good he wouldn't have been picked up by a top 6 club in England??
Onyekuru is not better than Zaha despite having scored more than Zaha in Belgium and Turkey.
Again - there's nothing I've Tau do with the ball that I haven't seen Iwobi do.

You can pull off the argument with folks who don't know anything about the PSL but not me.
I am Pirates fan and have been following the PSL since 03. I don't watch live games like before but I follow your top players.
Tau is not better than Iwobi. He is just as inconsistent and plays in a MUCH MUCH lower level than Iwobi.
If you want an argument like say Mothiba being better than Onachu or even Osihmen - we can maybe have that.
But Tau vs Iwobi?? Nice try that isn't going to work...not with me.
The only PSL player in the last decade that was good enough to play at the top level and didn't because of issues was Teko Modise. Tau isn't as good as peak Teko Modise. Simple.
Iwobi not only played in the ucl but played well in his first game at Barca. He has also performed well in europa whenever he played. Why would you compare him to Tau based on his second division performances??

IronGalaxy:
lol. You are deliberately missing the point aren't you. What's age got to do with ability? Well, you keep bastardizing the league Tau plays in as if to imply he's an inferior player because Iwobi happens to play in the EPL, the object of comparison here is the legaue, clearly. So I made an example of a player that's superior to Iwobi but plays in a lesser league and now you shift to focusing on leagues to the ages of the players as if that has a bearing on anything. A 26 year old Aboutrika was still better than IWobi . Age is useless.

No Aboutrika only got relevant due to his performances at the highest level not what he did at club level.
Tau hasn't done shit at a proper tournament. You've been using his performances at a second division club to compare him to Iwobi which is bullshit.
Tau is not better than Iwobi. There's nothing you say that'll change it.
The biggest tournament Tau has performed at is the CAF champions league. Iwobi has played in the europa league and ucl.
Using him winning mvp at a second division is hilarious.
That's like me saying Onyekuru is better than Zaha because he was top scorer in the Belgian FIRST DIVISION.

iSlayer:
An extra thin midfield. I wonder what it would be like without Ndidi. Quality young reinforcements are needed, to be groomed into players that can fill the very big boots of playing senior team football. Picking from the age grade team :

Okon
Makanjuola
Oforborh
Tom Dele-Bashiru.

Anyone with half a brain knew this would be an issue. Rohr was getting away with inviting 3 CMs during the qualifiers while over loading the team with wingers.

IronGalaxy:
shifting the goalposts. It was about where you play wasn't it? I gave you an example of a player that was miles ahead of many European based players who never played in your beloved Europe. All of a sudden it's about age.

Aboutrika is at the end of his career and retired. How the heck will you compare him to some who isn't even in the middle of his career?? Again bring a 23, no a 25 year old Aboutrika and compare him to Iwobi.
Tau is 2 years older and is playing second division football.
Compare Aboutrika to Mikel then. Go ahead - please do.

IronGalaxy:
I said " okay" and yet you are still going on and on. You're the one with " feelings" here

Nope. I dropped an apt quote by Ben Shapiro to best describe this argument. Simple.

IronGalaxy:
Aboutrika of Egypt league was than Iwobi. Whether he plays for Arsenal is irrelevant.

Iwobi is 23. Compare a 23 year old Aboutrika to Iwobi...please go ahead and embarrass yourself.
I wait.

IronGalaxy:
ha ha .Okay

Facts don't care about your feelings.

IronGalaxy:
you sound like you want to convince yourself but hey..do you

How can convince myself that an established Arsenal player is better than a second division Belgian league player who has done nothing or whatsoever in the highest level??
Tau is not Steven Pienaar. Go get glasses.

IronGalaxy:
yes, hence why he's overrated. ;Lol

Still better than Tau. Simple.

IronGalaxy:
he's overrated because he's inconsistent. Its one thing having potential and its one thing fulfilling that potential.

Like I said earlier we in SA are under no illusions with our team , we know whether we stand unlike you guys who still think rule Africa by virtue of having players playing for Arsenal, so Bafana comparisons are unnecessary.

Like I said earlier, we don't rate Akpeyi either but since he's your number one clearly someone in the Nigerian team rates him and that's an indictment on your team.

Bro, lol. You can pull all these stats on Iwobi and it still won't make a difference. Dude is still mad overrated. Sorry

Iwobi is overrated but he's still better than Tau. He has the body of work to show it and has played on a higher level. Simple.