₦airaland Forum

We need state police. ASAP.

As history has taught us, if you give the Fulani an inch, they'll take a mile.

Best bet for the Tiv would be to wipe out the Fulani utterly from their lands.

Abagworo:
The only state needed at the moment is a coastal state that covers the Ijaw and Itsekiri areas from Ondo to Bayelsa/Delta boundary.My reason is not tribal but necessity.If Bayelsa State was not created out of Rivers they would have been the most backward part of the world.This is not the fault of the Fg or State but their difficult terrain.The convenience of developing dry forest region will always attract more focus from a Government that wants to spend less and seemingly achieve more.Since those coastal regions are the richest part of the country,let them use their wealth to make their difficult terrain habitable,motorable and relatively developed.

1. Ondo boundary must not be touched at all
2. I doubt Itsekiri want to be in the same state with Ijaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzVTRI55GxE&feature=player_embedded

sirjec:
But some places are turned to polluted wasteland as a result of exploration in their lands yet you people hate them and don't think they should enjoy from the proceeds.

Says who? Who is this "you people"? I have no problem with the folk of the ND. They can certainly work for more resource control. But surely I'm under no obligation to do this for them?

ZimAngel:
I do agree with you. No offence but most naija chicks have no hips and or bottoms. We southern African girls are blessed with hips and big boo.tty

That's probably part of the mystery why Nigerian men leave their own for other nationals.

Err, women of my own ethnic group at least got plenty of booty + usually great chests. And probably at least a few others

God bless Latin America and the Caribbean, lol. They have not entirely forgotten where they come from.

One other thing, if they plan on extracting oil from this bitumen (as is done in Canada), then a refinery had better come online too. I don't want to see the SW zone exporting crude oil when we can refine it locally.

odiaero:
And what about Niger Delta that the oil is being extract from? abeg make dem extract the thing jare

Bitumen extraction is far worse environmentally (from what I understand) and much less profitable.

In any case, primarily up to the people of the ND to fight for their rights. Not any 3rd parties.

Interesting.

Out of curiosity, do any Nigerian cultures have rituals for bringing about rain? Say something similar to Native American raindances?

For the sake of comparison:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_population_density

73rd on the list.

Surprisingly enough, China is LESS densely populated than Nigeria. Lol.

I'm not too keen on seeing this bitumen extracted. Knowing how things work in Nigeria, the involved states (Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Edo and evidently Kogi?) would be turned into a polluted wasteland.

By Ben Ezeamalu
June 20, 2011 02:50PM
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The Environmental Rights Action/Friends of the Earth Nigeria (ERA/FoEN) has warned the Federal Government to halt the planned commencement of bitumen extraction in communities in the bitumen belt stretching from Lagos, Ondo, Edo, Kogi, and other parts of Nigeria.

ERA/FoEN made the call at the weekend on the occasion of the 2011 International Stop Tar Sands Day, commemorated June 18 annually to compel governments across the world to redirect about $1.8 billion worth of subsidies from tar sands investors to communities and individuals promoting sustainable development.

The Nigerian government has never failed to mention Nigeria's potentials in tar sands and recently announced the award of bitumen blocks to some companies. Information about the process of bidding remained confined to government offices while the general public is left uninformed of activities, according to the group.

"Not only was the bidding process for bitumen in the bitumen belt flawed, evidence from around the world have shown that bitumen extraction will pollute rivers and lead to livelihood losses thereby instigating and exacerbating crisis in the peaceful communities," said Godwin Ojo, ERA/FoEN director, Programmes & Administration.

"It is still an irony that while the Nigerian public and especially communities in the bitumen belt know nothing about agreements that the Nigerian government has entered into with bitumen firms or the environmental and social costs of this confirmed risky venture, the same government is busy telling the world of expected financial benefits of bitumen extraction."

Potential for danger

Mr Ojo explained that evidence from around the globe and countries like Canada show that bitumen extraction exposes communities around the resource to methane and other dangerous chemicals as fossil fuel extraction. In the process, water, land and the air is fouled.

"We are in solidarity with impacted communities across the globe and reiterate our stand that renewables are the way to go," Mr Ojo added.

"Bitumen extraction, like fossil fuels, will only instigate pollution and endless crisis in communities in Nigeria. We joined in this day of international action against bitumen to demand that bitumen be left in the soil."

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5719150-146/group_advises_federal_government_on_bitumen.csp

Reason why this came up is because my buddy met this girl over the weekend. She is sexy as ffffuuuu. Tall, skinny but thick in the right places, beautiful smile, etc. Only issue is she has a 4 year old daughter.

Thing is, he is a single father too himself, so isn't really concerned. I was just thinking to myself wondering what I'd do in the situation.

time to legalize it

Very tough choice

Could I date the beautiful dull girl but not have to spent too much time with her (aside from a few things ) and then be friends with the ugly girl?

If not, I'd probably choose the ugly girl. Is the ugly girl good in bed at least?

Yeah some of them i could barely understand what they were saying

i bet that hairylegged girl has more chest hair than me too

PureOhio:
I'm quite endowed physically actually, so I don't think that should be a problem.

Hrm, intriguing. You should be good to go then

lol @ iragbiji ile

One day you'll have to tell me what exactly he did to you, fstranger

One thing I gotta say though, they chose some pretty cool nicknames. "Tokyo" and "Auxiliary."

Badass.

^-- Lmao. Her legs are hairier than mine!

dayokanu:
Miss Ogun Sounds like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch=/v/sfeOY2xF27w&NR=1

Hrm, nice vid. Nigeria has some pretty good lookin women.

Bliss4Lyfe:
Looking at this map Ijaw is basically Rivers State and Awka Ibom and Abia sef. I dey laugh ooooooo!

You are majoring in minor. The exact boundaries of that lingustic map are not what is important. What is important is that less (states) is more (cost-effective).

(BTW, fwiw, I don't much care if Ekiti is "ruled" by a non-Ekiti man. I'm more interested in competent leaders in my part of Yorubaland than the leader necessarily being from my sub-ethnic group.)

jason123:
Dapo, if I get what you are say, then, you are in for world war 3. Everyone is not as "united" as you think. For example, will an Ekiti man allow an Oyo man to rule him?? What about an Nnewi man and Ngwa or Ikwerri I think its best we follow ZnO's advise so far unless you have a superior argument to his.

I definitely understand the concerns/fears. Remember, Ekiti State indigenes pushed for their own state for exactly the reasons you state. But the overall point I'm trying to make is that the less states in Nigeria, the better. You are right though, for political reasons this might not be feasible. But let's not exacerbate the problem, if we can at all avoid it.

If you say so. You are entitled to your own opinion at least, I'll give you that.

Anyways, moving on. . . . state creation for ethnic minorities is good. But if we decoupled certain political reasons from state creation, would there be as much interest? Likely no.

jason123:
Its like you love trouble!

I wouldn't do that to the SE zone alone. Roughly speaking, modulo some changes here and there, this is what the state map of Nigeria should look like:

https://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2008/07/nigeria_linguistic_1979.jpg

But for stupid reasons, this isn't what we have right now.

[quote author=EzeUche! link=topic=695196.msg8557683#msg8557683 date=1308608127]All of our states are viable and are performing financially.[/quote]That isn't really the point. I guess my question is, what is the point of state creation? Right now, unfortunately states are mostly created for silly reasons (related to FG allocations, representation in senate/house, etc.) Best reason for additional states imo is to give minority groups control over their own affairs.

Even the least among our states, Ebonyi is doing alright. The same cannot be said of your own state of Ekiti and many states in the North.

Do you have any data to back this up? Last I checked on the CBN website, Ekiti has quite a bit higher IGR than Ebonyi, for example.

I understand that ethnic minorities want their own state. But in cases where you have neighboring states with the same ethnicity, might not be a bad idea to merge them to cut down on administrative costs.

Probably the entire SE zone could be merged into one state, for example.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=694519.msg8557294#msg8557294 date=1308602894]southerners already fighting   when will this igbo yoruba end

so igbos and yorubas are fighting for the position of massob haram[/quote]Alj Harem, Boko Haram is centered in Borno State. Why aren't you dealing with this problem in your homeland?

You can try to disassociate yourself from what happened shortly after independence. But like I said, the history books (some of which are written by 3rd parties unrelated to Nigeria) indict you as much as they do the Hausa. It is what it is.

Anyway, let me not bother derailing the thread on that topic.

Unfortunately, the history books indict you as well. I will never forget. Hopefully I will have a chance before I die to pay you both back.