European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:54pm On May 25, 2017 |
eph12: Terry should have won these too and probably lampard Yes, but they couldn't. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:47am On May 25, 2017 |
Wayne Rooney and Michael Carrick are the first players to win:
Champions League
Europa League
Club World Cup
Premier League
League Cup
FA Cup |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:34am On May 25, 2017 |
nyabinghi: you shot yourself in the head again, i told you united wont make top 4 and got it right. Stop making a fool of yourself. Real teams qualify through the leagues not through backdoor. Let no one deceive oneself. This trophy which completes our cabinet and qualifies us for UCL next season is better than finishing second in the EPL. After some years, no one remembers which team finished second in a league. But a trophy is an everlasting record, particularly when it is a European trophy. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:03am On May 25, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Carling cup is a worthless cup no one cares about.
The main trophies are CL, league and FA cup and Both competed in 2 tell us the results
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:53am On May 25, 2017 |
Diademk07: Best player? Where Fellaini dey? Fellaini won countless of aerial ball and made more passes! he was like a man possessed and his technique even looked surprisingly good today.
Lmao... Moreover, it was a community defensive play banked on moment of counters and some had the audacity to complain about Rashford when he was always aall alone upfront...
Thank God we won but we played like we were the small team out there. You no sabi watch ball. See the attached. If we had 3 Herreras we would have finished the match in the first half.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:07pm On May 24, 2017 |
At the end we won two trophies. These people coming here to shout scummies.... It looks like the only achievement they will celebrate this season is Giroud's scorpion goal.
Ukwu!!!
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02pm On May 24, 2017 |
tess1: Congratulation to the fans and the players.
Man Utd is all about winning trophies, not fourphy. Mourinho has done it again. He prioritised to win it and he has done just that.
Straight to UCL next season. Next season is another season. That's three trophies this season
And to our in-house canopy analyst, Herrera won MOTM of the final.
GGMU! Herrera was the only one who held the ball with confidence and did meaningful things in the first half when every forward player and midfielders were shaking. In the second half Fellaini joined him and we used the ball a bit on the right side with Valencia's support. Herrera was the only one going for direct tackles instead of shielding players |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:59pm On May 24, 2017 |
I prayed hard all week. God answered my prayers. If you say prayers don't work in football, that's your own. We have played well in many matches this season and couldn't win. Today we didn’t play so well but it looked easy at the end. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:57pm On May 24, 2017 |
Pogba had a good chance to score a third goal and kill the match there, he repeated same mistake he did the last match by blocking his marker instead of shooting.
He has to correct that. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:55pm On May 24, 2017 |
weedtaker: Main man Yes, Herrera was the best player tonight. I said it at half time that he was the outstanding player. Kudos to Valencia and Smalling also. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:53pm On May 24, 2017 |
Ayagayagayagayo hei Ayagayagayagayo
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:45pm On May 24, 2017 |
We should beat this guys easily but we are not playing football. We just play long balls to Fellaini hoping he heads towards box for Rashford to chase.
Our forwards are not doing well at all. Mata is the worst. Mkhitaryan is not getting his acts and got a needless yellow card. Rashford just want to run.
The outstanding player has been Herrera. Valencia, Smalling and Darmian also trying. But Darmian can't go forward.
We need Lingard for Mata or Mkhitaryan. I am scared about Mkhitaryan's yellow. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:37pm On May 24, 2017 |
All EPL fans are suppose to support us today. When Chelsea won the UCL I supported them from Quarter final till the end. But Nihilist will be leading fans against us in a European fixture
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:34pm On May 24, 2017 |
With Smalling and Blind we just have to take possession of the match otherwise it will be hard. The players selected shows Mourinho would want to control the game, even from the back with Blind passing from there. Smalling comes in with his height.
We are likely going to sit deep and we have only Rashford who can play very fast among the forward players.
Well let's be positive. We should beat them with experience. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:10pm On May 24, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:06am On May 24, 2017 |
You people should talk less and pray. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:35pm On May 23, 2017 |
patrickmuf: Martial - Mata - Mhkitaryan should start behind Rashford or we play a 3-Man midfield and have Mhkitaryan and Martial flanking Rashford...We need ballers tomorrow... MMM has never worked for us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:30pm On May 23, 2017 |
patrickmuf: Please just stop, Griezzy is very pacy, you must not hear pace and immediately think of Ronaldo, Valencia, Bale or Walker Which pace? Everytime I have seen him, I see average pace. Depay would be far more pacing but his pace went to the dust in the EPL. Falcao looked to be pacing until he got to EPL. Even natural pacing Di Maria find it hard here. Let him come first and let's see the pace. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:45pm On May 23, 2017 |
patrickmuf: You must be joking, how dare you compare the finishing prowess of Griezzy to Mhkitaryan? You need to relax on this your campaign, the campaign to drink responsibly makes more sense... It's not about finishing. Griezmann plus Ibrahimovic will be slow. That's what I meant. Disastrous pairing. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:18pm On May 23, 2017 |
If Madrid are taking Griezmann, good. It means Aubameyang would be free. Or one of Madrid's forward player like Isco free.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:14pm On May 23, 2017 |
Diademk07: Maybe the idea is to play him behind Ibra which may not be that bad.
But the thing is even though Ibra can lead a line quite well enough, he is still more of a false 9 striker that loves to drop deep and linkup with his midfield, so where do Griezmann factor here, except if he can turn into a proper midfielder to make the midfield a 3-man?
More so, Ibra would never be that player that would defer to anybody. Yes, he's creative and all that, but would never act as a decoy for anyone to eventually take up the glory. In fact, the likes of Gamiero and Torres were seen taking their destiny up in their hands towards the end of this season and not acting as decoy for anyone like they did at the start of the season. Griezmann + Ibrahimovic will not be any much better than playing Mkhitaryan behind Ibrahimovic. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:10pm On May 23, 2017 |
codedguy1: Thank god you finally named some guys.
So you are saying any of these guys will guarantee 20 goals for us regardless the tactics and formarion. . Even Griezmann wont guarantee 20 goals. But looking at the price tags, it is far more sensible to go for Bas with just small amount or Laccazete. codedguy1: I admit I Dont know much about bas, but is it the same dzeko that played for city you talking about? Lacazette? Bas scored 34 goals out of his team 68 goals to help them finish 3rd. He is an hyena though eating on what others hunt, but Chicharito used to be an hyena too and scored goals. 34 goals in a league with next highest scorers of 16 goals shows how good he is. Dezko may have rejyvenated just like Higuain did, because Higuain was a useless striker just few years ago. Laccazete will give us a similar stuff Lukaku gives Everton. codedguy1: So if they Dont do the needful we fall back to zlatan, Rooney and rashford. Same way if we paid £80m for Griezmann and he fails. codedguy1: The moment these guys hear we are interested in them their clubs will automatically slap a 70m clause on them. We can do it quietly the way we handed that of Mkhitaryan |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:46pm On May 23, 2017 |
Diademk07: I beg to differ on Kagawa. Kagawa was signed for less than 15mil compared to the 36 mil + 6 mil agent fees that Hazard got signed.
Moreover, Kagawa hardly played in his best position under Moyes. He started 14 matches under Moyes with only few of them in the central role. Not to forget that most of the 14 matches came towards the end of the season and he was one of our best players at the end of the season.
While others, esp Mata was given chance in his favoured role, Kagawa hardly got same. Kagawa wasn't what we needed at that time. But even at that, we went for Mata who plays same way. When will we know what we need instead of going for semi-popular names? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:41pm On May 23, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Aside from Messi and Ronaldo who is guaranteed to deliver? Some have even said Messi might not deliver in England without his Barcelona teammates
In big games Atletico defend deep and Griezman is the counter attack outlet. I am not saying Griezmann is the solution to Man utd problems but give us like 5 options who are cheaper, guaranteed and attainable Suarez is guaranteed to deliver over 25 goals if not injured. But this is not the argument. We are talking about players who are available. Lewandowski is far ahead of Griezmann. Come to think of it, we cannot gamble with £80m for a striker who might not score 20 league goals. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:36pm On May 23, 2017 |
Diademk07: As a pure striker, I would take Mbappe over Griezman for 80mil any day. This is a player who was France's best player at u21 euros. He's not only tricky, lightening but can lead a line. In fact, that's his best position. He can also play as a SS. As a winger, I don't think he's even worth 50 mil but as a pure no 9, I would take him for 80mil.
On the other hand, Griezman has never led a line without a striker shadowing him. The point is he isn't a lead striker but a SS. So what are we talking about! I am with you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:35pm On May 23, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Who are these players in Serie A that have scored 20 goals consistently for multiple seasons? Some people here have raised doubts about Lacazatter, you have doubted Bas Dost
So Elamps come straight if you were in charge of Man utd transfers who are the strikers you will buy, Name them and give reasons I will buy two players Bas Dost and Laccazete/Dzeko/any other. I have not doubted Bas Dost, just that his style might not be fashionable. He has impressive goals per minutes return for Wolfsburg which makes him reliable to score. Scoring 20 goals for two seasons is not a criteria as such. Griezman scored twice and lost form. Griezmann, Laccazete, Dzeko, etc are not guaranteed to score 20 goals but it is far more sensible to gamble with small amount of money than gmabling with €80m big enough to assemble an Ajax team.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:25pm On May 23, 2017 |
codedguy1: So name the players that you think will improve us exponentially that will come cheap.
You can even name some from our reserve team. Just name some players, that's all we are asking.
You cannot just condemn someone the coach has identified that would improve the team and cant name anyone that you think fits the bill and comes cheap and GUARANTEED TO SCORE since you already know griezmann won't guaranty us goals.
I ask again have you discussed our tactics and formation with mourinho that has given you a better insight than us here? We can gamble on some players like Laccazete, Dzeko, Bas, and some others scoring 20 plus goals among the top European league. We can even buy two. As someone said, we have Rashford and Martial in the picture. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:21pm On May 23, 2017*. Modified: 4:42pm On May 23, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Who are your preferred option to Griezmann that will cost less, willing to come plus getable and are guaranteed to score Coogar used to suggest Laccazete and we all laughed at him. But the guy is still scoring. Although I don't know his price. Bas Dost scored 34 goals in 30 league matches for Sporting, the next in Portuguese league scoref only 16 goals. His goals per minutes for Wolfsburg was not bad at all. I don’t know his price tag. But transfer market has it this way: Bas Dost €10m Laccazete €30m Griezmann €80m We can buy both and add to Rashford. Bas Dost is more like Crouch pouncing on crosses and loose balls so he might not be very attactive. But he scores. There are still players even in Serie A scoring over 20 goals |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:42pm On May 23, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Who are your preferred option to Griezmann that will cost less, willing to come plus getable and are guaranteed to score Is Griezmann guaranteed to score? I doubt. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:41pm On May 23, 2017 |
raumdeuter: The easiest way out of this Griezmann issue is to lose on Wednesday
Let the players lose so Griezmann wont come
And I am still waiting for suggestion of better strikers you can buy that will cost less and guaranted to deliver Is Griezmann guaranteed to deliver? Remember too we have less quality players than A.Madrid to supply the quality passes, through balls and crosses. He might be required to track back to help out the defence as Mkhitaryan does. The major problem is not buying Griezmann but how much are we buying him visavis the improvement he will provide. If we buy him for £80m and he scores less than 25 goals is that a good buy. The way I see this guy, he will struggle to score 20 goals. Why not gamble with two promising strikers who might score 15-20 goals with £35m each? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:35pm On May 23, 2017 |
codedguy1: You seem not to get the point.
Whichever way you look at it, it improves the team. Imagine rashford taken off and griezmann is coming in or vice versa. Its better than a Rooney who is tired whether he has s played on the wings, as SS or striker.
What tactics/formation they use now boils down to what the coach has in mind. Mourinho is the one that wants yo buy the player he wants and he believes he has an idea what he wants from them, except you are telling me you and mourinho discussed it.
Am still waiting for THE LIST! and please Dont tell me you are busy because you have been replying post here almost going to 3pages now and I still can't see THE LIST
If zlatan and fellaini are finding it hard to beat defenders with heading why Dont you name the giants like goliath that we should sign that would beat every defender in heading. He will improve us by what degree? A marginal improvement will be counter productive on the young players. Their development will still because Griezmann cannot sit on the bench. That's all I have for you for now. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:31pm On May 23, 2017 |
lekkie073: r u afraid to call my name  as u rightly said d price tag on a player can make pundits come for his head just as d case of pogba. but aside d price tag he is actually good. what I told u then was that I am not bothered by d price of a player if it's gonna be a plus for d team.
and by the way, do u know d kind ill luck dat followed pogba dis season? he hit the bar more then 7times dat I can remember in d EPL dis past season I didn't want to be insulted again. So I left out the name. As for Pogba, I have nothing against him except that he didn't come commanding the midfield immediately. Kante immediately clicked, may be because he was in the EPL before. But SAF said early enough around February 2016 that Kante was the standout player that season. We still delayed in going for him. |