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raumdeuter:
Whats the evidence Zaha was ever goodto match the hype?

Torres was showing signs towards the end of his stay at Liverpool, by the time he got to Chelsea he was finished and the same carried over to Milan and noww Atletico

Shevchenko was a tired old man chelsea bought at 31.

Robinho was overhyped, and he wasnt good at any European club he went to whether Madrid, City or Milan

Just like Michu who was a flash in the pan in his first season by second season at Swansea his initial hype wore off and the real Michu showed

Assuming A maga club bought Michu after the first Swansea season you would claim the new club ruined Michu. Michu left Swansea went to Napoli he was useless now he is playing in lower tiers of Spain

All these are unnecessary excuses. Zaha didn't live up. He was to be the next Ronaldo at Old Trafford. SAF bought him far ahead of the transfer window.

Torres was no near finish at Liverpool. He was one of the best strikers in the world. He could take on two defenders to score. All of that disappeared the moment he got to Chelsea.

Overhypping doesn't count here because we are looking at players who met their ruin at a new club. Robinho, Chevchenko, Kezman were even worse than Paulinho considering the amount involved and the fact they were already used to life in Europe.

Dadehmola:


A few dig-ups & Elampiro has been found out as usual...

Paulinho over Thiago??

Elampiro - with this your insatiable appetite for power & strength , I'm beginning to think you are either a wrestler or weightlifter in the real world.

Paulinho was misused. He was supposed to be used as a DM but on his arrival we saw him missing chances in front of goal. Then there was a change of coach at Tottenham. Just imagine if after few weeks Mikel arrived at Chelsea, Mourinho had to leave.

raumdeuter:
If a player went to a wrong club then he later leaves and is still bad that means the problem wasn't the club in the first place rather the estimation of the player was faulty from the beginning

Like last year now people would be saying man utd ruined Falcao yet he has proven that he's past it with chelsea

Give examples of players ruined permanently by club.

Wilfred Zaha.
Fernando Torres
Chevchenko
Kezman
Robinho
There was a certain Hulk who was being praised then he changed club and that was the end.

Look again at a winning team. Slow midfield but fast and physical full backs and wingers. We are looking at the right blend between technicality, speed and physicality.

Put Xavi and Fabregas in the midst of Darmian, Blind, Lingard, they team will remain stagnant because every team needs a blend. Some players should be able to carry the ball 40 yards forward.

raumdeuter:
Wrong choice of club can be said for de bruyne's chelsea or Robben in Madrid because they later proved themselves at other clubs

Where is Paulinho proving himself now sef

Wrong choice of club ruined many players, although some were able to turn it around.

[quote author=raumdeuter post=40746090][/quote]Look at the circumstances I said these words. It was reported Thiago refused us, so I thought we should just forget him. I even called him Thiago Lacasera because I was angry the way it was reported he snubbed us like Shit. It was much later they said we didn't even go for him, that we had our sight on Fabregas from the onset.

raumdeuter:
Is Paulinho not good and physical

Players go in and out of from. Sometimes wrong choice of club prematurely terminates a player's potentials. Again Paulinho was never one of my top choices. I never called Paulinho when our stransfer options were fresh, only when they vanished.

Dadehmola:
The Same way you told us Paulinho was the best alternative to Fabregas that year

Elampiro, how is the powerful midfielder faring nowadays??

That year when I mentioned Neymar to be a world super star, I was attacked.

I mentioned Paulinho only after all our options thinned out. At the end, we all reluctantly supported Fellaini.


Which team has a physical midfield these days? If there are real good physical midfielders like Owen Hargreaves and Roy Kean they would rule.

Even in Champions League, Chicha is 7th best in his team.

chrisley024:
clueless man. LB is the reason we can't score. should be sacked if we crash out on Tuesday

We are not adequately covered in the left back. It was the position we started the season with one player. Blind and Rojo were LCB.

However, defenders are very instrumental in propelling the forwards to be more effective. You remember the difference in our play once Luke Shaw broke his leg in PSV.

Look at Alaba, Marcelo and Alves.

SIRcumalot:
Elampiro you wan make them lynch you abi ?
See how you,use style take diss Evra there.

I actually meant Evra's last two seasons.

chrisley024:
And you think Nani is? Abeg, this is reality not some fairy tales

If we had Nani, I bet you we would have scratched wins from 70% of the games drew. He has the pace to carry the ball into final third. He has the dribbling to go past markers. He has the skills to go past bodies in a tight packed defence. With Nani the space will appear in the final third. Then others will score from one of the numerous clear cut chances. He can break a defender's waist at short notice from a tight position.

SIRcumalot:
I like Nani and yes he was great once but not dependable at all.
If Memphis actually performed to standard this would've really been a scary team to face their is still time though.
All memorable LVG teams I can remember have that maverick winger am talking Figo and robben.
The only players LVG canned wey vexed me na Maria and to some extent Rafeal.

Rafael was weak defensively, particularly against technical players and dribblers. He and Evra were clueless to the technicality, dribbling of such players as Silva, Nasri, Hazard, Moses, Sturridge. Even Oscar tormented us.

Rafael was good going forward and running to match the pace of such players like Bellamy and Milner.

SIRcumalot:
Of course the was a concrete reason,they both sucked arse.
Chica spent most of his time on madrid bench and a decent performance in Portugal doesn't guarantee a starting shirt.
The thing is, you lot are only remembering the good times and none of the bad.
You don't remember how hot and cold nani was or how inept hernadez will look in our current style of play when he has zero space to run into and nobody creating anything for him,
Losing Rafeal is even understandable since he is almost always injured.
We're still in the race.

Nani would have done something. I know he is inconsistent. But he was always consistent whenever he was allowed to do on the field whatever he wanted. When he had no completion. When Ronaldo was here, Nani blew hot and cold.

When Valencia broke his leg in 2010 season Nani upped his game after becoming the main winger and a great creator. Valencia returned, Nani's confidence was rocked again, then Val went on a second long spell injury, then Nani lifted his game and became the main winger of the team. He also had some inconsistencies whenever young was fit.

This is the time he was suppose to carry us again with little on no competition on the right wing.

Too bad too, Valencia is on his third long term injury since joining Manchester United. I pray he and Luke Shaw return to the level they were before they got injured, at least.

SIRcumalot:
Gomez Is also a very solid target man and very capable of playing back to goal,with solid hold up play.
Chica can do none of that.

Exactly.

weedtaker:
Mario Gomez is a poacher, i don't think he struggled under van gaal. Nani is shyte, I'll prefer lingard nd depay to man my flanks instead of nani.

Chicharito will struggle. He was always struggling in Madrid except in just one match. If a striker struggled in that Madrid team of last season, he wouldn't do well in this team. There were some Matches it looked like Chicha was not even in the the field.

Chicharito is not 1/8 as good as Martial.

Leyqute:
Elamps you can't be serious. HOw many players have Utd bought back from other clubs after selling them? Please let's be real

We need any an immediate fix for the rest of the season.

SIRcumalot:
No to both Nani and Chicha there is a reason we sold them in the first place.
Other players they this world.
Memphis in limited minutes showed us a glimpse of what could be,am ready to put back in as a starter.

Nani has bossed this league before. He will offer far more than Mata and Lingard. What we lack is players who can take the ball in split seconds to the final third.

When Valencia did that for us against CSKA and some other teams, some people said he should have done better by playing like Neymar. Lol

Now we have players who can hardly defend let alone carry the ball 10 yards. What we hear is they are trying in their primary duties. But Valencia took out Musa and yet provided a great attacking play from defence. Another person compared him with that Bayern Munich winger. How can one compare an attacking play from a full back of Val and a Bayern player who played number 11 position?

weedtaker:
chicha has done much more in a stronger league, we should get him in january and get rid of rooney asap.

Chicha is a striker. He will struggle much worse than Rooney in Gaal's system. He is a poacher, he won't even see the ball.

I missed the match yesterday. When I asked from someone about the match, without prompt he started from poor performance of Darmian. He said he was very poor in passing, lost possession which is very poor for a defender. He went further to complain about his crosses. I said that is his weaker foot.

I
Nani 5 goal 4 Assists.

He has same goal as Van Persie. Van Persie has 1 Assists.

So let's buy Nani back in January. He will help to propel our attacking play.

Leicester already one goal up at Swansea

It's looks like I will miss our match for the first time today. I am on the road, please you people should give proper commentary incase I am unable to stream it

streetzdreamz:
everyone knows the truth already,those caught in the web heard the warning Bell but chose to ignore it.

Exactly.

dopeJemi:
i'll play mata in the middle, young, right... depay, left.. fellaini can come in as a sub

I'll Fellaini to be starting. He will give us a different dimension, and he's an old timer in the league. But Gaal might even opt for 3-5-2 and play Martial and Memphis as strikers.

streetzdreamz:
hells bells,tell them,not me..

That's what everyone should preach to people before it's too late for them.

streetzdreamz:
lols,that ain't no leniency,its a life time of hopes and damnation, they should get it over with and put them outa their miseries.

The solution. Don't carry gun.

DDG
Darmian McNair Smalling Blind
Carrick Schweinsteiger
Mata Fellaini Young
Martial

Still strong to win.