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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:06am On Jun 04, 2015

coogar:
there was a strike partner!
hernandez played against swansea
RVP played against burnley

Okay, can you list the 14 matches you said Rooney played as a centre forward? Let's know the matches you are referring to.

You are confusing yourself here. When you started the argument, you weren't referring to a lone striker. Which line do you want to tow now?

coogar:
smalling has 2 yellow cards that became 1 red. 2 yellow, 1 red

this information is irrelevant!

Whoscored treats them as two yellow cards. -0.5 and -.05. He had 3 yellows which is -1.5

Jones is -1.5 too.

At them end, these figures matter not. It will only result in less that -0.01. So what's the use of it?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:58pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
against QPR & swansea, rooney was an SS. he had a strike partner. welbeck was a lone striker in all the matches he played as a CF. how can you call rooney a CF when he had a partner & a CF when he was a lone striker?

elampawa, you are a fraud

Which kind talk be this? Did Van Gaal list who was the SS among his two strikers? Gaal played two CFs.

Rooney played only 8 matches as a lone striker. So what excatly does your 14 matches stand for?

coogar:
so smalling didn't bag yellow cards here & there? are you high on skunk?
no page can beg you!
the most damning stat is that king rooney hasn't scored an away goal in the league for the past 15 months.

Smalling had only 1 yellow card all season. Jones had 3 yellow cards.

Apart from Rojo who had 6 yellow cards, our defenders did well in terms of discipline.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:47pm On Jun 03, 2015

PietroRico:
lol

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
it is 4 in 14.

rooney fired blanks as a CF against....
sunderland(away)
burnley(away)
newcastle(away)
liverpool(away)
man city
everton(away)
palace(away)
hull(away)

chaiiiii, rooney is a liability.

but we are not talking about his overall rating. we are looking at the respective ratings in the CF position. if rooney didn't bag the red in the CF position then his rating with welbeck in the CF position can be compared without excuses.

where's your logic?

but he didn't beat welbeck as a CF....look at their ratings in the CF position.

that -1 could be the 0.15 difference over the season.

rooney 4 in 14
welbz 5 in 14

welbeck shytes on rooney!

how can premier league copy opta stats when EA sports run their matches. another lie exposed!

you are a tool!
falcao won the penalty, rooney scored from it. the difference between when the goal was scored & when falcao went off was the period it took to send brown off(sunderland were protesting against the foul & the mistake the ref made sending the wrong man off), the time rooney wasted in taking the penalty, restart the game. during this period, no football action was recorded.

1. Rooney CF 8 goals in 16 matches. Welbeck 4 goals in 14. grin

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Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal

2. Smalling red card was just -1. Jones yellow cards= -1.5

These is even insignificant considering they played over 20 matches each. -1.5 mark over twenty matches = less than 0.1 mark.

Look for another excuse.

3. I f I listed the matches Welbeck fired blank, the page will be begging me.... cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:35pm On Jun 03, 2015

SMalling's red card is even a lame excuse.

Smalling 1 red card, 1 yellow card.

Jones 3 yellow cards.

These cancels each other out.

Jones beat Smalling in tackles, Interceptions and Clearances. Yori Yori!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:27pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
why do you always lie?
then you listed the sunderland game when the premier league website confirmed rooney played in the hole behind falcao. how's rooney a CF when he was in the hole?

2 goals against sunderland should not be in your calculation. rooney scored 4 in 14, welbeck scored 5 in 14. rooney has 1 away goal in the league since march last year.

welbeck is rooney's father.

Lies. Premier League website copy opta's presumed formation crafted out from the starting eleven. This was how they always mislead people ad I have exposed them here times without number.

Against Sunderland, Rooney was a CF. You remember when you lied that Falcao left immediately he won the penalty until I brought the time he left. Rooney scored two goals as a CF. Rooney has 8 goals as a CF.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:20pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
rooney played 14 games as CF & scored 4 goals. 2 of the best football sites had it so, where's your own link that proves otherwise?

Lies from the pit of hell. Rooney scored 8 goals from 16 CF games. He had 3 Assists.

coogar:
rooney played 14 games as CF & scored 4 goals. 2 of the best football sites had it so, where's your own link that proves otherwise?

welbeck didn't play in the FA cup final or semis...

stop lying!

rooney wasn't a CF when he got his red card - i fail to see how that could have affected his rating in the CF role.

It doesnt matter where Rooney played and got his red card. As long as he got a red card it affected his over all season rating.

Rooney beats Welbeck in overall season rating by the zillion mark.

coogar:
jones & smalling played in one position throughout the season. smalling bagged a red, jones didn't. that's the only difference between them this season.

Red card is just -1 in one match. Yellow card is -0.5. I see no difference here. I am sure Jones even had more cards sef.

coogar:
in the CF role,
welbeck >>>>>> rooney

Rooney 8 goals from CF
Welbeck 4 goals.

Rooney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welbeck. In all department of the game.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:11pm On Jun 03, 2015

Rooney scored as a CF against:

Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
Tottenhma-------1 goal

8 goals as a centre forward but Ekwe Sample will always lie to us.

How can 8 become 4?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
whoscored is not wrong!
they have highlighted where rooney played & how many goals he has scored!

They are wrong, as they always do. Rooney had 8 matches as a CF. iLISTED THEM ALL

coogar:
so welbeck scored a hatrick last season? where was rooney's hatrick?

After the htrick he went 1,000 matches without a goal. grin

coogar:
smalling's unfortunate red card against city is the difference! and as you can see, the difference is just 0.15. compare that to the difference between welbeck & rooney.

Welbeck won the FA Cup. This boosted his rating very high. Whoscored award extra marks to triumphant teams and their players. grin

Red card? That's a lie. Red card has little negative mark in just one match. Rooney had a red card and still got average marking in the match. He didnt negative marking. Fabregas got a red card and till made whoscored bext XI. Phil Jones had many yellow cards, yet still made EPL best XI.

Jones >>>> Smalling

Rooney greater than all these players.

Hazard 7.96 1st in the EPL
Rooney 7.28
Kane 7.28
Sterling 7.27
Young 7.23
Oscar 7.20
RVP 7.11
Benteke 7.08
Ramsey 7.07
etc,etc

I cant even see Welbeck in the first 100. Rooney is 27 in EPL, 3rd in Manchester United.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:09pm On Jun 03, 2015

elampiro:
Rooney has 7 goals as a centre forward.

Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP

But this is not the issue. The issue is:

Rooney 12 goals
Welbeck 4 goals.

Yori Yori.

I even forgot the Tottenham game when Rooney box air and fell like a knockout boxer. That's 8 goals as a CF for Rooney.

Who be Welbeck for where Rooney dey? Anyway, 'it has do ooooo'.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:38pm On Jun 03, 2015*

coogar:
elampiro, stop lying!

welbeck
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2477055_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

rooney
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2477056_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

welbeck as a CF, 5 goals in 14 apps
wazza as a CF, 4 goals in 14 apps

5>>>>>>>>>4

welbeck as a CF - 7.43
wazza as a CF - 7.14

7.43 >>>>>>> 7.14

Who scored is wrong in the number of games played as a CF. I have listed Rooney matches. Is it whoscored I should believe or the matches I know Rooney was used as a CF.

It's interesting you are bringing this rating. You know for sure this whoscored rating you use here, will kill you in the future arguments. grin

It's boosted by Welbeck's hatrick in the Champions League.

Okay,

Centre Defence.
Smalling---- 7.35
Jones---------7.50

Jones >>>>>> Smalling.

Phil Jones is the only Manchester United player who entered whoscored XI of the season. According to whoscored, Jones was Manchester United best player this season.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:52pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
rooney - 4 goals in 14 apps as CF
welbz - 5 goals in 14 apps as CF

5 >>>>> 4
welbz >>> rooney

Rooney has 7 goals as a centre forward.

Rooney scored as a CF against:
Swansea---1
QPR---------1
Arsenal------1 FA CUP
Sunderland ---2
Aston Villa-----1
Preston----------1 FA CUP
grin

But this is not the issue. The issue is:

Rooney 12 goals
Welbeck 4 goals.

Yori Yori.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:25pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
welbeck was the better CF.
elampawa, anything else you want to discuss?

Coolieguy Kroikorse pls stop telling lies and crooking up figure. s

Even as A CF Rooney beats him hands down. You were even so fast to mention Welbeck's assists when you left out Rooney's Assists.
Rooney even has more goals as a CF. Where did you put his goals against Sunderland when he and Falcao paired as a CF?

Abegi, Rooney outscored Welbeck. Dats all.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:04pm On Jun 03, 2015

If you like dress it as you want. Fa fa fa fowl. grin

Yori Yori!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:53pm On Jun 03, 2015

parrotibaba:
Round two don start!!!

Nothing like that. I have made my last post on the subject.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:53pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
rooney took penalties, welbeck played majority of those games as a winger.

Excuse Excuse. lol

Rooney scored just one penalty.
Welbeck played most of that time as a lone striker sef. Giroud was injured for a long time when Welbeck was fit.
Rooney also played in midfield. So leave excuse. The truth is your prophecy failed. The fact that you wanted an Arsenal player to outscore a United player goes to tell how much hate for this guy you got in your blood. grin

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Enjoy.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:41pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
welbeck got injured!
it's not his fault - there's no way welbeck would play as a CF in 10 away games and not score like wayne fatso rooney.

I dont get you. Rooney outscored him even when time played is used as a yardstick.

Welbeck 1,667 minutes played= 4 goals........(426 minutes per goal)
Rooney 2,876 minutes = 12 goals. ...............(239 minutes per goal)

Rooney worst season ever is 1,572 minutes and he scored 6 goals, 2002/2003 season.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:19pm On Jun 03, 2015

coogar:
welbeck will outscore rooney this season. let's bet.

Throwback from September 4th 2014. I remember this when Welbeck went to Arsenal as their striker. grin

Nothing more to say. Exit.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:38pm On Jun 01, 2015

parrotibaba:
elampiro any news on our transfer business?

The long argument didnt even let me follow up, but you know the usual every summer. The papers must sell. The bring their best fiction writers to speculate transfers. When Ronaldo says "I am not happy", someone will write that he is on his way out of Madrid, and that his agent was seen boarding a flight heading to Manchester, apparently heading to Old Trafford to discuss a move..... grin

...............

However, see this:

Who will Manchester United play in their Champions League play-off?
By Peter Smith
Last Updated: 01/06/15 4:22pm

Monaco and Lazio are on the list of potential opponents for Manchester United in their Champions League play-off.

Manchester United must come through a two-leg tie to reach the group phase after finishing fourth in the Premier League and, despite being top seeds, could face a tough test to qualify for Europe’s elite club competition proper.

First, ten teams will go head-to-head in the third qualifying round, with ties played on July 28/29 and August 4/5.

Seeded sides Shakhtar Donetsk, Ajax, CSKA Moscow, Club Brugge and Monaco will be paired with Young Boys, Sparta Prague, Fenerbahce, Panathinaikos and Rapid Vienna.

The winners will go into the play-off round – where United, Valencia, Bayer Leverkusen, Sporting Lisbon and Lazio will be waiting. The draw for the play-off round will be held on August 7, with the ties played on August 18/19 and 25/26.

United, Valencia and Bayer Leverkusen will be seeded. So will Shakhtar and Ajax, should they qualify. If they don’t, Sporting Lisbon, followed by CSKA Moscow will take their privileged spots, with Lazio stepping up should the Russian side fail to make the play-off round.

With all those scenarios to play out, United can face one of ten teams:

1. Sporting Lisbon (UEFA ranking: 33)
Sporting Lisbon finished third in Portugal’s top flight this season, behind champions Benfica and Porto, failed to progress from their Champions League group after being beaten home and away by Chelsea, and immediately exited the Europa League at the hands of Wolfsburg. Top scorer in 2014/15, Islam Slimani of Algeria, offers a threat up front but reported Manchester United target William Carvalho is also key.

2. CSKA Moscow (UEFA ranking: 34)
CSKA Moscow frustrated Manchester City home and away in the Champions League group stages this season, defeating Manuel Pellegrini’s side at the Etihad after holding them to a 2-2 in Russia. However, they ended up bottom of a tough pool and, domestically, finished runners-up to Zenit St Petersburg.

3. Lazio (UEFA ranking: 40)
Lazio booked their spot in the Champions League qualifying round with a final day victory over Napoli to finish third in Serie A and showed their quality in cup competitions by reaching the final of the Coppa Italia. The World Cup’s top scorer of all time Miroslav Klose leads the line and came out on top of Lazio’s scoring charts, ably assisted by the creativity of Antonio Candreva.

4. Club Brugge (UEFA ranking: 51)
lub Brugge finished top of the regular season table in Belgium, but finished runners-up to Gent in the play-offs, meaning they will have to reach the Champions League group stages the tough way. Colombian import Jose Izquierdo has been a hit in his first season, while former Barcelona youth product Victor Vazquez remains a fixture in the heart of the team’s midfield.

5. Monaco (UEFA ranking: 68)
It seems odd that Monaco, who knocked Arsenal out of the Champions League before eventually going down 1-0 on aggregate to finalists Juventus, must face the rigours of a play-off, but such is the price Leonardo Jardim’s men must pay for finishing third in France’s top flight. Unless he earns a move elsewhere this summer, Radamel Falcao could potentially haunt United.

6. Young Boys (UEFA ranking: 69)
For the first time since 2010, Young Boys get a shot at the Champions League, after finishing second to Basel in the Swiss Super League. They were heavily beaten by Everton (7-2 on aggregate) in the last 32 of the Europa League in 2014/15 and, despite being ranked just one place below Monaco, would be a far more favourable draw for United.

7. Sparta Prague (UEFA ranking: 72)
While Czech league winners Viktoria Plzen take the ‘champions route’, Sparta Prague go into the ‘non-champions’ pool in the third-qualifying round. They failed to escape their Europa League group in 2014/15 but showed their strength at home with 3-1 and 4-1 wins over Young Boys and Slovan Bratislava respectively, before holding Napoli to a 0-0.

8. Fenerbahce (UEFA ranking: 75)
Fenerbache missed out on retaining the Turkish title by just three points to arch rivals Galatasaray this season, as Senegal international Moussa Sow got among the goals. With Turkey legend Emre and Brazilian playmaker Diego in their ranks, Fenerbahce could surprise – and former Liverpool forward Dirk Kuyt will be hugely motivated to upset his old rivals, should they be paired with United.

9. Panathinaikos (UEFA ranking: 100) – probably
Panathinaikos are the only one of United’s potential opponents yet to cement their place in the Champions League qualifying pool. However, the Greek giants – who finished second in the regular season table – currently comfortably top a post-season play-off group which determines who gets the Champions League spot. Former United player Luke Steele is their regular goalkeeper.

10. Rapid Vienna (UEFA ranking: 121)
Rapid Vienna lost out to HJK Helsinki in their play-off for the Europa League this season but finished second behind Red Bull Salzburg to qualify for the third qualifying round of the Champions League this summer. Slovenia international Robert Beric is their key man – the 23 year old is one to watch after netting 27 in 33 appearances in the league this season.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9872126/who-will-manchester-united-play-in-their-champions-league-play-off

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:57am On Jun 01, 2015

Manu's attacking selection backfires wildly as Nigeria fall to Brazil

Manu Garba saw his title favourites lose out 4-2 to Brazil

Jun 1, 2015 10:00:09
The Flying Eagles set out their stall with an attacking line-up, but their defeat only shows it is possible to have too much of a good thing

The trouble with the invincibility (or the sense of it) is that it emboldens, and the trouble with boldness is that a surplus of it then makes us vulnerable, not to external forces, but to our own weakness. Make no mistake, the Flying Eagles' 4-2 loss to Brazil in the wee hours of Monday was wholly self-inflicted; and no, this is without reckoning with (goalkeeper) Joshua Enaholo’s second-half nightmare.

It is a shame that the MFM goalkeeper, the saviour many times over as Nigeria spluttered to the title at the African Youth Championship in Senegal, contrived to lay an egg as the team chased the game late on. What would be truly unfortunate though, is if his non-performance were perceived (both by fans and the coaching crew alike) as the sole differentiator between Nigeria and the five-time world champions.

Ultimately, the seeds for this loss were sown by the timing of the arrivals of certain players, and the preferential treatment afforded them. Both Kelechi Iheanacho and Isaac Success are viewed as integral parts of the team, rightly so. Neither was a part of the team’s very successful training camp in Germany though, and neither have had the benefit of a full week’s training with the Flying Eagles since the close of the European club season.

Expectedly, after a bright start here, both were soon running on fumes; their fading exacerbated by the unfamiliar roles they were tasked with playing.

Success, while certainly adaptable to an inside-forward role, simply offered no protection whatsoever to left back Abdullahi Mustapha. While it is a trade-off some coaches will accept (see Cristiano Ronaldo), and which paid off for his equaliser, his lack of understanding within the team structure meant he ended up making the same runs with and getting in Taiwo Awoniyi’s way.

It is no coincidence both of Brazil’s first-half goals came from overloads in that channel, The midfield double-pivot of Ifeanyi Matthew and Ifeanyi Ifeanyi were often forced to give up vertical compactness trying to provide half-space support in the left-back zone, resulting in huge gaps through the middle.

For his part, Iheanacho gave a glimpse of his ability with an exquisite curler that came back off the frame of the goal, but ultimately had little influence playing centrally behind the striker. A large part of his success two years ago at U17 level was his positioning on the left-side of the attack, his drifts unnoticed between the lines and the consequent understanding with captain Musa Muhammed on the overlap.

Here, it was Musa Yahaya on the left; the Tottenham man is more a direct dribbler, and Muhammed was unable to profit from intelligent movement.

Considering the right-back is the major source of attacking width in the team, this caused a huge problem. The narrowness of the front four made it easier to counterpress, and the Flying Eagles did brilliantly in the first period, forcing quick turnovers and trying to get in behind quickly (they were caught offside seven times, an indicator of their inclination to exploit Brazil’s backline while it was disorganised). The second goal, scored off a counter from a defensive corner, underlined this well.

The downside of counterpressing is its unsustainability over 90 minutes, and once the team tired in the second period, Brazil used their width from full-back to even greater effect to control the game.

On their part, there was very little control to the Flying Eagles’ display. The lack of compactness in the double-pivot has already been touched upon, but in possession they were not much better. Ifeanyi offers work-rate but is average with the ball, while Matthew is a creative presence, but does not bring the intelligent movement to evade pressure.

There were two ways to combat this in the build-up: either get both full-backs higher up the pitch and play out through them; or Iheanacho dropping deep to find space and dictate. The former was impossible because Abdullahi was being terrorized down the left, while the latter left the team without a body between the lines to tempt out the centre-backs.

For a coach who prides himself on the tactical cohesion of Total Football, it must have been an agonising watch for Manu Garba. It is however impossible to deny his own complicity, much as he is highly rated.

In terms of forwards, Garba may well have the best range of options in the entire competition as he says, but if anything, this match was greater evidence that quantity does not equal substance. His desire to shoehorn as many attackers as possible predictably left his team vulnerable defensively – attack may the best form of defence, as the saying goes, but not against the very best teams.
http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4082/editorial/2015/06/01/12281622/manus-attacking-selection-backfires-wildly-as-nigeria-fall

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:50am On Jun 01, 2015

SailorXY:
how did Pereira perform? it was Naija vs Brazil right?

He was one among 11, that's all. He was even substituted. Iheanacho was also average. and rightly substituted.

The second of the game was anticlimax. The passes and free flow football we saw in the first half went dead in the second.

At the end we lost the game due to:
1. Our goalkeeper cost us the last two goals. Brazil 3rd goal, the goalkeeper assumed the ball was going wide. The fourth goal the goalkeeper's terrible error. He thought he had picked the ball and hurried to get up, only for the ball to slip in between in his legs. Like the one DDG conceded against Sunderland in Capital 1 cup under.

2. The Brazilian coach had the tactical edge, because he read the game better and closed it up at half time.

3. Iheanacho was below average or just average.

4. We missed an empty net to put us up 3-1 when were in control, a minute later Brazil equalized.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:55am On Jun 01, 2015

Wow! What a first half of entertaining football. 2-2

Nigeria should be leading by two goals margin but for luck. This is a very technical game, our boys can pass an opponent to death. Awoniyi round the goalkeeper only to hit side net- missed an empty net. Hope they wont regret it. It looks we are outnumbered in midfield while w defend. That's poor. We are not tightening it up enough.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14am On Jun 01, 2015

SailorXY:
hmmm that's disgusting!
so they just bolted out of the blues(sic) & skyrocketed cost of breathing? they are even more useless than I imagined.
like I said earlier, the owner should sell it to more capable hands.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:13am On Jun 01, 2015

coogar:
nigerian customers failed HITV or i should say HITV didn't do their homework very well. they are new to the terrain and that was why they failed. the truth is 90% of people who subscribe for sky or HITV do it because of football.

when the football season ends, a lot of people stop paying - HITV should have taken this into the equation with a proper scheme to address this downtime. between may & august, i was told about 5% of their customers paid their monthly subscription - they didn't have enough in their reserve to fill the gap & their business collapsed!

They had nothing else going for them. Their nollywood movies were nothing compared to DSTV African Magic channels. They had skynews which was okay. No Channel o to captivate the young. No current foreign movies. No reality shows like idol/talent contests.

DSTV had big brother Africa to compensate for the summer break in EPL.

However, we failed ourselves. Nigerians should never have lost that right again to DSTV. Even if there was no money, they should have rallied round.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:59pm On May 31, 2015

SailorXY:
hitv is very unserious. the owner should sell it to someone or group with more business sense.

more importantly, the rights should be sold to all who can afford it, this is business. why must it always be one person in the whole nation?? just like Dangote was propelled to acquire all the whatnots. na wa oo.

I heard NTA has the rights too & will broadcast live games on Startimes...

More insight pls. But NTA picture quality is still in the 1970s.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:57pm On May 31, 2015

SailorXY, The EPL monopoly is not from DSTV, but from the EPL.

If I remember well, this was what happened.

1. DSTV used to pay 15 million pounds for 3 years to English FA for EPL matches.

2. HITV came on board and when it was time to renew the right for 3 years, HITV bid 45 million pounds and won it for the next 3 years. DST were however given 2 matches while HITV got 8 matches. I was paying for both just to get all the matches including cup matches. HITV did not show CL and FA Cup games too from the start.

3. When the term expired, I think after 2011/2012 season, HITV bid 100m, DSTV bid 60M. EPL had earlier announced it was winners get all, no more 80/20 sharing ratio.

HITV could not raise the money as thei bank failed them. DSTV paid/wired the 100M with the speed of a lightening when HITV failed.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:37pm On May 31, 2015

SailorXY:
its terrible! I heard some group of lawyers took up the matter, but so far no update on the proceeding...

the monopoly is not healthy, even for the Nigerian economy.

HITV won the bid, but GTbank fell their hand. They refused to grant them loan facility to pay up, or may be they delayed in granting the facility. HITV charged 6k the highest, they started with 4k when they had the right.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:33pm On May 31, 2015

coogar:
but you still get to watch all the games on saturday afternoon. super sports 1-8 or there about cater to every club.....we don't get to watch that here. we only watch 4-5 live games(maximum) per weekend......and the cheapest subscription that includes sports is about £70 per month.

What about MUTV? Is it not accessible- either online stream or TV?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:29pm On May 31, 2015

coogar:
you guys don't know what you are enjoying.
14k a month for DSTV and you are complaining? i would gladly pay 30k per month to have the benefit of watching man utd every weekend instead of watching delayed feeds that sky offers.

Your economy is better.

We pay for so many things here. We have to complement our power supply with fuel or diesel.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:17pm On May 31, 2015

SailorXY:
I've not been in the comfort of my house since March

I know they have the COPA America but no idea about the U-20. they should anyway, else why them dey charge nearly #14k monthly

ok.

It's actually too expensive. Why can't there be a pay per view. Pay as you go. something like that.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02pm On May 31, 2015

Ladies and Gentlemen, you guys should have a fruitful week ahead.

On the final day of EPL Gaal said he desires to have two players in very position. He said he has handed the transfer list to Woodward for players to be sold and those to be brought in. He left immediately for vacation from where he will be keeping in touch with Woodward 'daily'. Papers have rumoured four players are to leave, and they gave four names.

Let's wait and see how the summer plays out. As usual there will be speculations to sell papers.

U-20 world cup has started. I wish Flying Eagles goodluck.
Women world cup starts coming weekend. I wish Super Falcons and my friend, Oshoala good luck.
Copa America, it's good luck to Di Maria.

I wish to be away for some time. There is no need crossing words with people every time, particularly when you sense some of them are not just matured.

You guys should enjoy!

SailorXY, any idea about DSTV showing the U-20 world cup match tomorrow morning? I heard it's about 4am. I can't see it on TV guide.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:50pm On May 31, 2015

sinizia:
Cursed epileptic vermin, when you answer those questions, let me know. Your stupidity is contagious.

The reason Thiago Silva is in the number 3 instead of number 5, is same reason Rooney is in number 9 instead of number 10.

Same for Ramos in number 3 instead of 5.

Ronaldo in number 9 instead of wing.

Rooney in number 9 instead of 10.

I just ignore you because your ignorance is irredeemable. Why should I even be replying someone who thinks Xavi, Cleverley, etc are number 10. Someone who cannot think. No simple logic upstairs.

This is my last reply to you, or anyone else.

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