European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:01pm On May 29, 2015 |
AdeLaNa1: For ur info dat was our line-up against Arsenal in an FA Cup match. I know coz i watched it(can't remember the season). And if u cant count d 7 defenders in dat line-up, then SMH for u.
U've been saying Rooney plays behind the striker. And yet the only time he played behind d striker was in SAF's final season 2012/2013. SAF had no choice but to change formation to 4-5-1 in order to accommodate RVP and Rooney with Rooney playing behind RVP(which was also Kagawa's favoured position which is why Kagawa was moved to the wings). U are d kid here bruh coz the way u argue sometimes, it makes one wonder if u just started watching United matches two seasons ago.
I'm not here to rubbish Rooney. But sure he can play SS, CAM and CM but Rooney has always been a Centre Forward at United 1. I know that line up more than you do. Rafael and Fabio did not play as defenders. Again that is FA Cup match which the tactics are differnent. 2. SAF said he always played Rooney as number 10. Rooney said he always played number 10 behind a striker. Cole said SAF switched formation in 2001. But you said SAF played 4-4-2. Who should I beieve, you or SAF? mY FRIEND UNITED PLAYED 4-4-1-1 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:57pm On May 29, 2015 |
weedtaker: and i'm not dragging with you that rooney ain't one of the 3 best forwards in the uefa champions league in 2011, but saying he was one of the best 3 forwards in europe that season is unacceptable, champions league and the whole europe no be thesame thin, europe consist of both league performance, and wayne wasn't better than chicha that year, though he was brilliant than him in the champions league tournament. The award is not for champions league alone. It's for all competitions including national team qualifying matches. From August 2011 to October 2011 Rooney scored 11 goals in 14 appearances for Man United. There were 2 hatricks. he scored 3 against Arsenal and 3 against Bolton. 3 against Otelu home and away. 1 each against Chelsea and Tottenham. This was when FIFA votings wer going on. Before this period, he scored 1 goal in CL final against Barca. He scored the lone goal in CL quarter final at Stamford Bridge, he dismissed Shalke 04 in Germany and made the return leg a formality. SAF rested him in the return leg. His goals would have gone up. From january 1st to May 2011 Rooney scored 14 goals for Man United. He scored a hatrick against West Ham making it three Hatricks in the calendar year 2011. So is this not enough to be among the best three forwards in the world. Remeber Rooney was playing as a number 10. I know you will like to dispute this out of your htred for him, but that is your headache. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:42pm On May 29, 2015 |
AdeLaNa1: SAF neva played 4-4-1-1. He usually played the flat 4-4-2 And this is Rooney playing up front alongside Hernandez in a 4-4-2 wen we beat Arsenal 2-0 with 7 defenders This chart was made by my mechanic. I remember it vividly. Ukwu!!!  Which one is 7 defenders? I need to log out. Na kids full here.  What do you understand when SAF said he played Rooney behind a striker? You said SAF never used 4-4-1-1? Rooney also said he always played behind a striker. In 2012/13 season, SAF said Rooney likes to play in the middle same place Kagawa plays. He said may be he may have to rotate them. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:38pm On May 29, 2015 |
weedtaker: nope bro, he was the tournament best centre forward, i've no problem with rooney in the past, but his current performance in the united team is not acceptable considering the fact that we all see him as our star man, and we all expect him to deliver week in week out just like ronaldo, hazard, arguero, zlatan, tevez and messi, afterall he's the highest paid BPL player 1. The award is for the all competitions. I dont know which is tournament centre best. I thought there was a separate award for euro best? 2. But Coogar said Hazard does not deliver because he doesnt score. In ten years time, someone would come to say Hazard scored 12 goals per season. About 18 months ago, they told me Robben is rubbish. They listed many wingers who are better than Robben. They said Robben wouldnt be above 15 million i transfer market that he was old. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:32pm On May 29, 2015 |
weedtaker: And as of the 2010-11 season, UEFA renamed and started awarding it as the Uefa best player of the year (which means only 1 player will be awarded rather than the normal one which both gk's, midfielders, defenders and forwards are all awarded), and messi won the uefa best player of the 2010-11 season. No one disputed this. Messi won the Ballon D'or. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:30pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: media hype, boy!
where was rooney in 12/13 season? where was rooney in 13/14 season? 
where would rooney be in 14/15 ballon d'or awards? and yet you cannot see beyond your nose that rooney is finished?  Rooney was shortlisted for the 2014 award. Media hype? Why cant Peter Crouch be hyped? Emily Hensky, Sturridge, Welbeck, Defoe, Sterling, Bent, etc coogar: christ! you lie for a living. when SAF made comment about ashley young & agbonlahor, it was before the start of 11/12 league season. young was about to join united then & SAF was comparing where young played in 10/11 season to where rooney played in 10/11 season.
we are talking about 11/12 season.  stop muddying up the waters with your lies. you cannot convince anyone here with your fraudulent articles. how can you put what SAF said about rooney before 11/12 season as an evidence that rooney played in the hole in 11/12?
chimo!!!  SAF said this when United where already in the preseason. And has played some matches. He played Rooney in the hole in 2010/2011 and in the preseason of 2011/2012 he said that. Meaning he played Rooney in the hole. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:23pm On May 29, 2015 |
weedtaker: Rooney was not the best forward in europe that season, he was just the tournament best (real) striker (not false 9 like messi) in the uefa champions league, the stop awarding uefa best forwards, defender, midfielders, nd goal keepers after the 2009-10 season. Ronaldo won the eufa best forward of the year in 2007-08, but in the team of the year he was placed as a winger, messi won the best forward of the year in 2008-09, but in the team of the year, he was placed as a winger, milito won the best forward of the year in 2009-10, and was also placed in the team of the year as a centre forward.. So rooney being included in the team of the year as a centre forward, doesn't mean he was the best forward of the 2011 season. Rooney was one of the three best forwards in 2011. Messi-Rooney-Ronaldo. What exactly did Rooney do to you guys? Anything due to him must be that another deserves it. I think I am in the wrong Man United thread. Strange things here. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:17pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: SAF said nothing like that. stop lying. when did SAF say rooney played in the hole behind a striker?
mr. pawa, stop lying now what shall it profit a man that lies with impunity to sway arguments? SAF said he usually deploy Rooney behind a striker just as Ashley was deployed behind Agbonlahor and co. Rooney himself said in 2008 that he had always played behind a striker. I am logging out. We are going back. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:13pm On May 29, 2015 |
I keep going back and I keep seeing Rooney among the best every year. Yet every year they have been telling us Rooney is finished. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:07pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: exactly - he was one of the best 3 forwards that season. united's run in europe that season and his wondergoal against man city made sure of that & he deserved the award.
but that was 3/4 years ago....this is now!
parrotibaba is saying rooney played in a flat 4-4-2 in 11/12. you are the one putting 10/11 season in the mix to confuse us. rooney had a very mediocre season in the league in 10/11. the first half of that season, rooney was in america going through all sorts of weight programs. Parrotibaba is free to think whatever he wants. I have asked him to bring stats he said he is using to back. All I know is that United played 4-4-1-1 even SAF said it himself Rooney played BEHIND a striker. Behind is the hole. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:58pm On May 29, 2015 |
Look at what I am discovering. Rooney is always shortlisted for best forwards in the world except in 2013.
Truly, truly, Rooney is the best number 10 of his generation. ........................................................... Otu de oya sare wa gba kekere kerewawo Atu ti de oya burukutu make e sarabara owey (Oya shekini ni ni ni ni [3x]) Oya shekina na na na na Ehn ehn 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:50pm On May 29, 2015 |
parrotibaba: d stats vs Bolton stated both Hernandez n Wazza as FWs ,my memory didn't fail me. ,yours did Where did you state this your Bolton stat? I did not see it. Bring it out for analysis. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:48pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: he wasn't awarded the best left back - stop arguing like a goat. the voting system only had 4 defenders, 3 midfielders & 3 forwards. there's no best or worst - it's just FIFAXI. So Rooney was one of three best forwards? How many people have entered this list? Rooney, Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Messi, Ronaldo. 300k league. Yori Yori. coogar: stop lying elampiro. UCL final was 10/11 season. parrotibaba was talking about 11/12 season. If it's 11/12, then the award for 2011 which covered much more 2010/2011 season. Parrotibaba didnt know what he was saying then. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:27pm On May 29, 2015 |
Here Thiago Silva was awarded the best left back. Did he play as a left back in 2014?
Ramos was awarded the best left back in 2011, did he play there?
Football knowledge is not learnt from computer games. Common sense is not common. People disputing the obvious just because they want to witch hunt Rooney.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:22pm On May 29, 2015 |
parrotibaba: why r u arguing like a tyke? we didn't start watching live matches from 2014 ,SAF played a flat 4-4-2 formation n Wazza was a striker alongside chicharito dat season No your memory failed you because you look at Rooney's goals and say oh he was a striker. Look at the reports by Zonal Marking. They are very clear, reports as at the time, not one written today. Even Coogar told us Rooney was instructed by SAF to tract Busquet in CL final. Chicha was isolated that night. You people want to see Rooney fails, but he doesnt fail. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:19pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: the guy is saying you are a liar. he also remembered where rooney played that season.....as one of the front two.
he was never in the hole.  He doesnt remember anything. He is deceived by Rooney's fine scoring stats. parrotibaba See Ramos awarded the best left back. Did he play as a left back? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:16pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: what did rooney achieve in 2011? are you a daftie? the only reason rooney made that list was united's run in europe. this is why vidic is also there.
so how did rooney become the best striker in europe when he was neither a striker for club nor country?
i have seen more intelligent silverbacks @ chester zoo.  Fabio Capelo used Rooney as a striker in many matches. In 4-3-3 the number 10 can be slotted into the number 9 because there is no hole in 4-3-3. I was trying to download something before I reply this post but it refused to download. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:08pm On May 29, 2015 |
parrotibaba: Wayne Rooney is a striker not a midfielder for fцck's sake!!! he has played as a striker for much of his career but he has also played various midfield roles ...
His player profile states dat he is a forward not a midfielder ...How can Rooney play in d hole n score 27 league goals in 2011/2012 season? his highest ever tally ,SAF played d 4-4-2 flat formation during dat season with d exception of a few matches Cantona profiles states he is a striker. SAF played 4-4-1-1 Even SAF said he played Rooney behind the striker just as Villa played Young behind. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:02pm On May 29, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:55pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: why 4-3-3? why not 4-5-1?
rooney didn't play as a centre forward that year either in the league or in europe. so where did that come from? 
messi was the striker for barca that year in europe & in the league. pedro/david villa were wing forwards. so how did you arrive at rooney being the best striker in europe?
so you now agree a player in the hole is a striker when it's convenient for you? i said it before & i will say it again......you are a rogue!  FIFA said the players were judged for both club and country. Are you in planet ape?
Again FIFA uses 4-3-3 AND NOT 4-5-1 . See Falcao.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:43pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: so how's rooney the best striker in 10/11 when you told us here he was in the hole behind javier hernandez and messi was a centre forward for barcelona that year? 
messi as a striker won ballon d'or. ronaldo as a winger came second rooney came 5th behind xavi & iniesta and at least one of those would be a number-10.
elampawa, why do you always lie?  So where would they have put Rooney in their 4-3-3? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:29pm On May 29, 2015 |
The 2011 FIFA FIFPro World XI consists of the following players: Goal: Iker Casillas (Spain, Real Madrid); Defence: Daniel Alves (Brazil, Barcelona), Gerard Piqué (Spain, Barcelona), Sergio Ramos (Spain, Real Madrid), Nemanja Vidic (Serbia, Manchester United); Midfield: Xabi Alonso (Spain, Real Madrid), Andrés Iniesta (Spain, Barcelona), Xavi (Spain, Barcelona); Attack: Lionel Messi (Argentina, Barcelona), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal, Real Madrid), Wayne Rooney (England, Manchester United).
THE FRONT MEN ARE IN THE LEAGUE OF 300K.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:21pm On May 29, 2015 |
These are the best FORWARDS for last year.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:16pm On May 29, 2015 |
sinizia: Too bad that in 13 seasons, the over-paid striker only passed the 20-goal margin twice. A shame for a £300K-a-week over-hyped man!!
And no, it's only your imaginary stats that proved that Rooney didn't play in a 4-4-2 formation. The pic Coogar attached spoke otherwise. Even at that, Messi played on the wing this season and still out-scored Suarez. Rooney is a fraud!! He has no excuses!! Rooney is the best number 10 of his generation. Show me any player in EPL who has scored 13 goals consistently for 11 years? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:13pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: elampiro does not understand football. at his age, he doesn't know there are different types of centre forwards. you have the target man, poacher, false-9, finisher, etc.
when we had yorke & cole. if there's a long ball from the midfield, it is yorke that would win the first header & direct it towards cole's path. if it were to be this season, elampiro would claim yorke plays in the role cos he was often the target man.
elampawa is a comedian. see him hyping rooney's 53 passes per 90 mins as if it's a world cup victory. macheda @ 20 years of age also made 53 passes per 90 mins that season.
let's see if he will say macheda also played in the hole to have achieved that. 
Lies. Andy Cole wrote that Manchester United switched from 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 in 2001, and that was why SAF bought Nistelrooy who could play alone.
This is not computer football game ad you are dealing with very learned people. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:10pm On May 29, 2015 |
sinizia: Too bad that in 13 seasons, the over-paid striker only passed the 20-goal margin twice. A shame for a £300K-a-week over-hyped man!!! How many goals has Ozil scored? Rooney is destined to end up as EPL 2nd highest scorer ever. He might finished as United highest scorer ever. World best striker 2011. sinizia: And no, it's only your imaginary stats that proved that Rooney didn't play in a 4-4-2 formation. The pic Coogar attached spoke otherwise. Even at that, Messi played on the wing this season and still out-scored Suarez. Rooney is a fraud!! He has no excuses!! Coogar's attachment are meant to brainwash low minded beings like you without their own power of thinking. You said Rooney is fraud. Can you define fraud and tell us how someone earning legitimate income is fraud? Pray in your next life to have such a brain as Rooney to earn 300k/week. If you have a son like Rooney you will be proud for eternity. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:04pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: so when did rooney win the best striker in ballon d'or?  . Do you mean he didnt win? I dont get you. Everyone knows he won it. coogar: rooney is a fraud! nothing you say here would change that fact. rooney has only scored 1 league goal away from home since march 2014.  rooney is super-useless! if he has any fear of God in him, he should return 80% of his wages since 2014 back to woodward. even falcao, RVP, scored more than 1 league goal away from home. .[/quote]Manchester United ought to pay Rooney 500k/week. coogar: we believe in opta, not in you.  opta said rooney was used only 2 times in a 4-4-1-1 formation. your ekpoma analysis is comical. Your opta that saw Ozil in hole against Bayern last year, instead of the wing he played? They saw Kagawa in the hole too instead of wing? Ukwu!!! Zonal Marking is a zillion times more reliable than opta in term of tactics. Whoscored/opta are not a tactics website. Lastly, I am not from Ekpoma. ITK. Ntor! As for you, someone in Owo is more knowledgeable than you in football matters. This is not computer game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:50pm On May 29, 2015 |
sinizia: Elampawa makes it look like it's our fault or anybody's fault that Rooney in a "flat" 4-4-2 formation chose to concentrate on passing or dropping back instead of scoring goals. Is it our fault that Rooney refuse to score goals and decided to have the most passes? Ferguson played him there to get the goals, that he chose to keep getting the highest number of passes in Man Utd is not our business!! Rooney did not play in 4-4-2. He played in 4-4-1-1. All the stats have confirmed this. If you have chosen to be brainwashed and ingnorant, that is your toro. How do you mean Rooney refused to score goal? Rooney scored 27 goals that season, he made 53 passes per 90 minutes, he took virtually all the shots from outside of the box. Are you an ignoramus? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:45pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: when did rooney win best striker? when was he awarded the contract he got? why don't you go and give cambiasso a £300k/week contract cos he won champions league in 2010. This is illogical. Did this Cambiasso win the best striker in Ballon D'or? Rooney was shortchanged by Man United in 2010. City were ready to pay 300k but he took 250k out of loyalty. However, when Chelsea came knocking the second time his agent decided it was 300k they took what was their market value. Any player who has won the best striker is entitled to 300k. If he is not taking it, it's just out of pity for the club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:28pm On May 29, 2015 |
coogar: rooney was 16-18 @everton. it would be stupïd for anyone to think rooney would be bought for his record at that age. he was bought for the potential he might become especially after lighting up EURO 2004 where he scored 4 goals in 4 games.
sadly rooney never lived up to that potential! So we paid 25 million for a player who scored 15 goals in two seasons and you think he was bought for his goal scoring prowess? Hary Kane must be bought for 150 million then. coogar: he played about 10 league games as a top striker and he scored only 1 goal - it's a fücking disgrace! Torres, Ba, Eto'o played week in week out for the whole of 2013 without scoring an away goal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:14pm On May 29, 2015 |
Hahahahaha they have exhausted their excuses.
Now they say Chicha is a poacher. Is Berbatov also a poacher. Is Welbeck also a poacher?
Name...........Outside the box............Inside the box Rooney............... 84.........................73 Chicharito........... 6...........................41 Welbeck............. 14......................... 66 Berbatov............. 1...........................15
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:11pm On May 29, 2015 |
sinizia: I ignored the rest of your rants so i can focus on this issue. You mean Benteke, Suarez, Messi, Ibrahimovic, Aguero has nothing in common with Rooney? Kai. Whoever did you this thing is heartless. He or she took away every grey matter in your cranium.  Can you explain yourself better please. Rooney, Ibrahimovic, Falcao have all won the world best striker. That was my post. They can earn 300k/week. |