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raumdeuter:
Was it Dayo and A40 that gave Germany 4 World cup, 3 Euro Cups, and multiple runners up medal? German team is only second to Brazil

british footballers are extremely inferior to them and shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as those German legends

And we were talking about Italian defenders. Coogar rightly said they have been the best.

But you said because they defend in numbers. I knew you were going to promote some Germans.

raumdeuter:
There was no ojoro,

Only that Argentines were very physical and duly got red carded. Also Klinsmann took advantage of their physical approach and got fouls called for him

Hmmm

I supported Argentina since I was their fan from Mexico '86. May be my judgement was biased then. But why should a ref give a red card in a world cup final so easily. It takes away the beauty. Imagine if Webb had sent players off in 2010 final.

afrodoc2:
That is why Littbarski is better than George Best and Rummenigge will make 1st team of Pele's era abi?
True the British have never produced any world class player, only Germany produces world class players....and the best defenders in history ( Italians are only lucky because of the league they play in).

Dayo and A40 must find a way to dilute achievement of others until German players come top in the discussion.

coogar:
na ojoro germany take win them for final.

I have always remembered Argentina were robbed and Maradona cried. But I have forgotten what that ojoro incidence was. Can you remind Me? Never repeated that match.

raumdeuter:
Just a season before They won the league with Juventus, Canavaro was world cup, Ballon D or and WPOTY winner going to Madrid.

Italian league is basically a league for defenders. That was why Taribo excelled. You need to see the way Taribo was hailed for his brutal assault on Kanchelskis where they had to stretch the victim away from the field covered in blanket yet Taribo didnt get a red

How do you think Montero would have survived in any decent league? Looking at this face alone Shawcross would run away

Paramatti would be very much at home being the hitman of a mob

https://www.laststicker.com/i/cards/1352/157.jpg

Taribo excelled in Auxerre. I saw him in CL games and he was playing like a boss. I remember a certain game he overlap with the ball to give an assist .

SAMMER, WOW! I have even forgotten to mention him. Real defenders have all retired.

Even Roberto Carlos.

leggo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HbmeNKino

is this the top notch defending we are raging about?

Network in location i am currently on now has not allowed me see this clip. However there are always isolated cases.

Di Maria disgraced Puyol
Ronaldinho vs Cole enroute to equalizing England, Rivaldo scored it eventually.
Eto vs Vidic
Milito UCL final goal.

leggo:
was that not a result of the ball been cleared from a set play oga Piro? unless you are a pathetic liar and didn't actually watch sambisa boys on VCR you can testify.

I dont understand this.

There are isolated cases when mighty space opened up in matches, this cut across all eras.

When Spain scored their final goal against Nigeria with a player free from half way line to face our goalkeeper, it was it from 1930?

Even in recent football we see two strikers face only the goal keeper, and one taps in eventually.

leggo:
oh I didn't see the link you put up.. is the list however set in stone? you think if you had a greatest XI from Pele's era play FCB they would win?

Arrange the match first then we will see who wins? You funny sha. Which kind talk be dat.

Lets use players we are familiar with. If you pick players from 1986 to 1998 Baresi, Stam, Maradona, Romario, Dunga, Bagio, Maldini, olivier kahn, zidane, Bebeto in one team today, do you think they will be inferior to the best of today.

But kids of today will say 20-0 because they didnt see Baresi, Romario.

sinizia:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2254866_obamalafff_jpegc9b48d05c12a4375035937271eea96bf

Dont mind leggo, he is so confused. When Torres scored against Barca , he was alone in more than half of the field. Did that happen in 1930?

I could list endlessly . Welbeck had a space big enough for a car park when he missed against Bayern.

leggo:
elampiro are we discussing facts or myths? only Beckenbauer was pele's mate among these defenders, no??
great defenders yet people people averaged one per gme.. sigh

What are you saying?

Giancinto fachetti played in Pele's eya.

Ruddi Krol, Jama Santos, Gaetano , Bobby Moore, Beckenbauer all played in Pele's era listed as top 10 of all time.

Nihilist:
Lol this is a joke.

Looking at the Super Eagles alone....You can't see machines like Taribo West and Uche Okechukwu again...Instead it's milky boys likeOmeruo and Oboabona

The defenders in the 60's, 70's and 80's were brutal thugs. If they missed the ball, they would not miss your head. You had people like Andoni the Butcher that nearly killed Maradona with a tackle from behind(and saved the boot he used to do it in a glass case) and Graeme Souness running round kicking people in the balls.

Those were the days of man to man defending...unlike the Zonal marking today.

Exactly. Lucio is the only one close to defenders of old. But again the rules had changed to restrict defenders before Lucio came.

Those days even tackles from behind was allowed. Kicks here and there.

darkenedrebel:
you are calling Maldini a defender of old? Maldini didn't play during Pele's time.
neither did Roberto Carlos or Baresi.

& no- I don't think Zico is better than Messi.
Messi has faced tougher oppositions & plays in an era of football where the stakes, physicality &, technicality are at its apex.

I strongly doubt Pele would have been as clinical as he was in front of goal if he played in this era.
if he played in the premiership, serie A or laliga

& there are Many defenders of today that can match & even beat the so-called defenders of old..
•Thiago Silva,Kompany amongst others. the defenders of today are of greater quality.

forgotten in 20 years? Messi played in the YouTube age. remember?..
Trust me Messi would be known 500 years from now. ✘

I have pulled out the best defenders of all time. None played in Messi `s era.

Even Lucio that is not as good as the previous legends locked out Messi even when Inter fell to 10 men. I wonder what would have happened if he faced Beckenbauer, Baresi, Maldini. And the rest in top 10 from Pele's era.

http://discusssoccer.myfreeforum.org/archive/the-greatest-defenders-of-all-time__o_t__t_44.html

Another link telling us about great defender in football history.

Best Football Defenders Ever The greatest defensive players of all time are in this top ten list. Did your favorite soccer defender make it? For a player to become one of the best football defenders, he must have the skills and the trophies. But most importantly, he must have contributed to making football a more beautiful sport. This list of great football defenders include players who revolutionized the position of a defenseman. This top 10 list of footballers is a selection of players from all era. It is not surprising to see many Italian players in this list. Italy is renowned for its defense, being home to catenaccio style football. 10. Daniel Passarella Years active: 1971-89 National team: Argentina Clubs : Sarmiento, River Plate, Fiorentina, Internazionale Milano Daniel Passarella was a reliable defensive force but what makes him unique among history’s greatest defenders is his scoring ability. He was a dangerous man off set pieces and was remarkable for his ability to score from corners with a header even if he stands at only 5’8”. Passarella sealed his place in the hall of greatness during the 1978 World Cup when he captained Argentina to the championship. He replicated this feat by winning the 1986 World Cup for Argentina. In the 70 games he played for the Argentine football team , he scored a total of 22 goals, quite remarkable for a player committed to defense.
9. Giacinto Facchetti Years active: 1960-78 National team: Italy Club: Internazionale Milano Giacinto Fachetti began playing as a forward but Helenio Herrera, the legendary coach who perfected catenaccio football , saw that Fachetti best fit a defender. He played his new role exceptionally well because of the technique he got by playing as a forward. Fachetti’s knack for scoring remained even though he was positioned on the defensive back. He was the one who revolutionized the position of a football defender into someone who can score and help teammates score. Facchetti was an integral part of the “Grande Inter,” the finest squad the Internazionale Milano had. With Inter, he won four Italian Serie A championships, two European Cups (1964, 1965), and two Intercontinental Cups (1964, 1965). He also helped Italy win the 1968 European Football Championship and in its runner-up campaign in the 1970 World Cup.
8. Rudi Krol Years active: 1968-86 National team: Netherlands Clubs: Ajax, Vancouver Whitecaps, Napoli, Cannes Ruud Krol is an extremely versatile player, which made him a perfect proponent of the Dutch total soccer system. He is highly regarded for his speed, which he retained over his long player career. When not defending, Krol would lead his team’s attack or make long passes which always find their way to the intended player. His passing skills greatly enhanced Johan Cruyff’s offense. Rudi also proved several times that he can score. One of his most notable goals was against Argentina in the 1974 World Cup, which he scored from 25 yards away. Krol is a member of the unlucky Netherlands football team which made it to the 1974 and 1978 World Cup finals but never won the championship. He is remembered by Dutch fans for his reliability and versatility, which he showed in the 83 caps he has for their national team.
7. Djalma Santos Years active: 1948-70 National team: Brazil Clubs: Portuguesa, Palmeira, Atletico Paranaense Djalma Santos was the starting defender of the Brazilian powerhouse of 1950s and 1960s. Although he mostly started as right-back, Santos can switch to different soccer positions and was often seen playing up the field. Santos played his first of four World Cups in 1954 where he showed his consistency and solidity by playing in all games of the tournament. His second, the 1958 World Cup, was the best for him despite being the briefest. He played only one game, which is the final against Sweden, yet his performance was so outstanding that he was included in the All-Star Team that year. The 1962 FIFA World Cup saw another stellar performance from Santos. He played in every game in that tournament and dished an unforgettable assist to Vava in the final against Czechoslovakia. The 1966 World Cup would be the last for Santos. It was an unexpected selection because he was already 37 years old that time and a younger Carlos Alberto provided another option for the right back position. Djalma Santos is one of only two player who became a member of the FIFA World Cup All Star team three times (1954, 1958, & 1962). His counterpart is no less than the German legend Franz Beckenbauer. Until today, he is widely considered as the best wing back ever to play the game.
6. Carlos Alberto Torres Years active: 1963-1982 National team: Brazil Clubs: Fluminense, Santos, Flamengo, New York Cosmos, California Surf While Pele led the Brazilian attack during its glory days, Carlos Alberto was the one who manned its back. Carlos Alberto became famous at a young age because of his excellent ability to read opponents, a skill he complemented with his flawless tackling. Carlos Alberto was more than a defender. He was also a solid playmaker, a feat he was able to do because of his excellent passing and dribbling skills (How to dribble a soccer ball). During his professional careers in Brazil and later on the United States, he became instrumental in the championships of whatever club he was in. Carlos Alberto claimed his greatest game in the 1970 World Cup (Football world cup 1970) final, with a goal against Italy. He scored it by cutting to the edge of the penalty box and kicking the ball with so much power that it left the keeper with no chance. It would become one of the greatest goals of all time.
5. Gaetano Scirea Years active: 1972-1988 National team: Italy Clubs: Atalanta, Juventus Gaetano Scirea spent most of his club career with Juventus where he played as a libero. Being in that position placed him as the last line of defense before the goalkeeper, a role which he fulfilled with unparalleled brilliance. Scirea was remarkable for his ability to read the opponents’ offence, break up their plays, and retrieve the ball for his team. Yet he was more than a defensive libero. He also orchestrated plays and even scored goals himself. Gaetano Scirea was a gentleman on and off the pitch. He defended solidly but cleanly, and was never booked in his professional career. Scirea was humble despite his brilliance, making him well-loved among the Juve fans. Scirea was in the Italian football team for nearly 12 years, with which he won a World Cup title in 1982 . He teamed up with Claudio Gentile to become one of the pillars of Italy’s defence. Although he passed away at the young age of 36, Scirea gathered enough titles to become a legend. Among his championships were seven Serie A titles, UEFA Cup (1977), UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup (1984), European Cup (1985), and Intercontinental Cup (1985).
4. Franco Baresi Years active: 1977-1997 National team: Italy Club: AC Milan Baresi is endeared to AC Milan fans for staying with the club through its best and worst times. But what makes him admired by football fans is his defensive ability. Any attacker who comes close to the penalty area that Baresi guards is bound to end up getting tackled or ripped of the ball. Despite playing sweeper, Baresi did not hesitate to go up when there is a chance to attack. This is quite unusual since running the whole length of the field is a task for wingbacks. Baresi is also remembered for being the mentor of Paolo Maldini. As testament to his greatness, the AC Milan club retired his football jersey number, a very rare practice in Italy. No player of AC Milan will ever wear the number 6 jersey after Baresi. By the time his career ended, Baresi has gathered at total of 14 major championships: 6 Serie A titles, 3 European Super Cups, 3 European Cups , and 2 Intercontinental Cups. Unknown to many, Baresi has a World Cup title which he won in 1982. But he was not given a single minute in the tournament for reasons known only to his coach Enzo Bearzot.
3. Bobby Moore Years active: 1958-73 National team: England Clubs: West Ham United, Fulham, San Antonio Thunder, Seattle Sounders, Herning Fermad Robert Frederick Chelsea “Bobby” Moore was hailed by Pele as the greatest defender he has ever faced. He never gave up on a ball and he times his tackles immaculately. Despite his physicality, Moore played fairly and clean, which earned him the respect of other players. One of Moore’s greatest moments came in the 1970 World Cup. Jairinzho, a legendary Brazilian winger, was rushing towards England’s goal and was about to score inside the penalty area when Moore tackled the ball away from him. Despite his brilliance, Bobby Moore’s career is highlighted only by two major championships. One is the 1965 UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup which he won with West Ham United. The other is no less than the World Cup in 1966 , which he won as England’s Captain. Bobby Moore became an enduring icon of World Cup victory from then on, with the famous photo of him lifting the Jules Rimet trophy as he was held high by teammates.
2. Paolo Maldini Year active: 1985-2009 National team: Italy Club: AC Milan With 26 championships across his name and owning the most number of caps for Italy, Paolo Maldini is practically unequalled both as a player and a defender. But he earned his place in football greatness for far greater reasons than the championships could tell. Maldini is, quite simply, the best defender of his time. He was quick and strong, able to stick to his man and tackle down any opponent who challenges his defense. He also has exceptional endurance, able to run up and down the whole field length throughout the game. Maldini owned the left flank of the field, not only in defense, but also in offense as well. He makes excellent crosses and could finish if necessary. He also has an excellent leadership skill, which he utilized best as center back. Because of his ability to control the game, he is nicknamed “Il Capitano,” a nickname made more appropriate by the fact that he captained the Italian national team and AC Milan.
1. Franz Beckenbauer Years active: 1964-83 National team: Germany Clubs: Bayern Munich, New York Cosmos, Hamburger SV Franz Beckenbauer was notable for his game- turning goals but amazingly, he played as a sweeper. His success was a result both of his skills and his brilliance in modifying the roles of a defender. Before Beckenbauer came into the spotlight, the role of the sweeper or libero was purely defensive. But he saw the possibility of utilizing his position in order to lead his team’s attack and would at times finish the attack he started. Franz Beckenbauer’s skills are equaled by his successes. He won the European Cup thrice, UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup, and the Intercontinental Cup. He also played a great part when Germany proved itself to be the best in Europe by winning the 1972 UEFA European Football Championship. On top of those major championships is the 1974 FIFA World Cup title, which was made more memorable for Beckenbauer since he won it as a team captain. Beckenbauer’s brilliance was twice confirmed by the Ballon d’Or, the highest individual award in Europe. It is very rare for a defender to win that award and winning it in 1972 and 1976 only shows that Beckenbauer is the best defenseman ever.
www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/best-football-defenders-ever.html

leggo:
lord knows I didn't say legends had the one on one, I'm telling you even the sweeper could run the full length of the pitch and still be left face to face with the opposition keeper. no be only scarce na farce... so you think the world cup has as strong a pull as the UCL presently? you are more delusional than imagined bro

Lies, tell us the sweepers who score one vs one.

Go back you will see heroic defending and goalkeeping. Stop rubbishing defenders of those days. The same old days Africa will send one team to world cup and the team will score only one goal or zero.

UCL is easier than world cup. ROONEY has a UCL final goal, as much as he has in the world cup.

leggo:
Elamps you should be doing all the thinking here, you've been mentioning the same set of defenders all day ,who were the defenders when Pele played. don't give us players who even I have seen play.. name the defenders who let Pele get away with some of the most ridiculous stepovers the world has seen, you will say the defenders had a license to kill but if Pele with his ivanovic-esque bum can nutmeg and flick the ball over them imagine what cr7 the eternal showoff would do..

No you should be the one to think. How old is club football? About 80 to 100 years before Pele. How come Pele owns the highest number of goals in a single season in Brazil? If he scored 58 goals in 1958 why did anyone else not score 150 against the suppossed far weaker defenders long before Pele arrived football world?

Pele's legendary skills made his defenders at his time look stupid. The same defenders Ganicha and some other legends from Germany, Spain, England, France, Argentina find hard to beat to score.

When Ronaldinho used leg over to dribble Ashley Cole in world cup quarter final, was Cole an slowpoke to have gone the wrong way completely? Cole was the best left back in the EPL around 2006.

Before Maradona no one could get past two defenders that period, but Maradona turned same defender to mugus.

leggo:
lol... in this digital age people will not know messi in 30 years? Words on Marble by Elamps..
Did Cruyff, Best, Cantona win the WC? Elamps, in 100 years a virus would have erased all that is left of Pele nutmegging defenders who were probably all on LSD during the game..like for real the sheer number of times players found themselves one on one with the goalkeeper was amazeballs.

Pele played in stone age, he is remembered for ever. Zico played in digital age, he is almost forgotten and unknown to under 25 boys and girls.

In last world cup final Argentina came face to face with Neuer about 4 times, they all miss, including Messi.

One vs one have always been scarce, but legends make them look cheap.

darkenedrebel:
Messi doesn't have to win a world cup to cement his legendary spot in the hall of fame of soccer

he's already a greater legend than Pele & Maradonna.

& who says he can't still win a world cup?
he can still play in 2 world cups before retirement.
don't be in a haste. ✘

He has to win a world cup, other wise he is no better than zico.

darkenedrebel:
they are comparing the defenders & the game format of Pele's time to now. such ludicrousness.

If Pele faced the defenders of nowadays I doubt he would have found the back of the net as much as he did.
I have watched him play & honestly there is nothing spectacular about his style of play. a little bit over*hyped.

Maradonna was a better & more fantastic player.
Messi also tops Pele..✘

ZICO IS BETTER THAN MESSI.

IN 20 years Messi would be forgotten.

Defenders of old were even better. Which defender today can match Baresi, Maldini, Stam, Adams, Carlos? DEFENSDERS ARE REGRESSING SEF.

You call a player who went past 5 defenders to score a world cup goal ordinary? A player who flicked the ball over a top defender in a world cup final ordinary?

The defenders were poor right? How players did all these things before Pele? Football had been played 100 years Pele, world cup 28 years before Pele. Why was he who came to do the extra ordinary? Wouldnt there have been people to create better records before Pele when the game had less evolved?



Think.

leggo:
in 10 years I'll show you a video of Cr7 tearing ass in LA liga and UCL over 20 years too..are we watching the same clips? where Pele stands on the by line for 5 secs before a defender got to him? water tight defending abi na waterlogged?

I am sure even in 100 years to come you wont have a clip of Messi messemarizing defenders enroute to scoring a world cup goal, not to talk of doing a flick over to score in a world cup final match. Or Messi lifting world cup trophies.

In 100 years time you wont have Messi having a goal per match.

Till thy Kingdom come, you wont have a clip of 17 years old playing in a world cup. Not to talk of scoring 6 goals in 4 matches.



For your information, there are beautiful clips of Zico but no one talks of him today. In 30 years time kids would not know Messi except he wins a world cup. Are we on same page?

leggo:
hehe.. Argentina plays two strikers ahead of messi, why don't you blame aguero,higuain ,dimaria and the defenders extraordinaire like rojo and otamendi for failing to inspire Argentina like garrincha and jairzinho did when Pele wasn't up to par??

Maradona was an Attacking midfielder , from there he dribbled everyone ahead of him to score.

Messi even played as one of front three in the tournament.

Jair scored because Pele inspired him. YoriYori.

leggo:
I'm telling you for a fact that the only videos you would see are of his world cup performances and few Santos games anything else they tell me is hearsay to me. Elamps be frank the videos you saw , the first course of the defenders was to charge like Phil Jones . when you charge like that even bebe would be like Garrincha

So how come Phil Jones has never been rape'd. Phil Jones who took out Robben and Ribery?

You call a world cup final defender rubbish? May be you should go and check how many goals that team conceded before Pele murde'red them. To the extent a team mate of that defender applauded Pele. Which meant he had regard for that defender.

1970, Pele also finished Italian defence. Italy had the best defence those days- water tight.

If you saw Video clips of a player world cup over 20 years. what else do you want? He even performed better in his club according to stats and report.

sinizia:
While i feel that Pele is a better player than Messi, it's degrading saying Messi shouldn't be compared to Pele. Comparing someone to another person doesn't mean they're exactly the same. Messi has merited to be compared with Pele, he's the best of his generation.

Also saying Messi should've propelled his team to Copa title is a bit harsh on him. He can't do it all, he can only give his best (Pele didn't do it alone for Brazil too, he had the best of squads). He did that and his teammates let him down. If Higuain had converted the chances he had in the finals of WC and Copa America, Messi would've finally gotten both titles. Messi is the main man and the star player of this Copa America and he lived up to that. You can't begrudge him for that.

PS: I'm someone that don't like Messi, but it won't stop me from saying the truth about him.

I am not taking away any of Messi's credit, but if his team mate didnt score, why did Messi not score? Messi missed a good chance in the world cup final. If he scored in the copa final, would the match have gone into extra time?

Pele scored in two world cup final matches, and was obviously the star man. He was easily also star man in club final matches he played.

Maradona, did the extra ordinary to help Argentina win the world cup. He dribbled everyone in his way three times in the quarter and semi final. He went to Napoli and delivered.

Messi also has Mascherano, Aguero, Di Maria, Tevez, Higuian, and some of the best defenders. A team made from two U-21 world cup champions from 2005 and 2007. Messi best player in 2005 and Aguero best in 2007. It's not like Messi is from Greece or Cameroun.

leggo:
how many of his 1million goals are on tape elamps?

How do I know? The tapes were many, and I was just a boy enjoying life growing up . But my favourite was the one titled 'boys from Brazil'. Because that was basically highlight of all Brazil world cup goals from 1930 to 1982.

leggo:
Eusebio, puskas both have 0.97goals/game and we are are assured there is no exaggeration.

Eusebio and Puskas were renowned prolific scorers. Where there is Messi and Ronaldo, there will also be Ibrahimovic and Falcao.

weedtaker:
pele nd messi are both great players, evrybdy has his/her opinion about who the best is.. As for me, i'll pick messi cause i never watched pele kick a ball. Meanwhile wetin Man.utd de talk about Schneirdelin na , nd seems we ain't getting any centre forward o

I watched plenty of Pele's clips as a kid. In fact I repeated many old school matches in VCR cassette way back. The cassettes ended mostly in Italy 82. There have been footballers, and there have been footballers. They come and go. I love a certain Jaizinho. I love Zico.

After Pele, they said there will never be another magician because football had evolved. Then Maradona came. Later they said it will never happen again. They said Di Lima and Zidain was the end. Then Messi and CR7 came. That is life.

There were also great defenders. They come and go. Football is evolving, but defenders of today could be said to be less effective than Baresi, Maldini, Costacuta, Stam, Adams, etc. If these people were to return to youthful age today, will will walk into any team as the leaders.

I think we should give due to those who deserve it. People are saying football was poor in Pele's time, but how did he manage to average one goal per match when other greats in his time couldn't make 0.4 goal per match?

leggo:
oga sit down with your Pele yarns ..imagine flicking the ball over the defenders head for over 200 of his goals, you think its a coincidence all of the ancient players we deify now have almost a goal per game ratio??

What goal ratio did Garricha have? Chalton? All his contemporary.

Kids of these days might say Mike Tyson fought against weakeners, that was why he was able knock people out within minutes, even seconds. When you go back, you will see even in the time of Ali, the fights could be said to be stronger.

leggo:
Pele scored over 500 goals from friendlies OK. Simple question can you compare the micro short wearing players of the fifties to the modern age ? Humans are designed to evolve and not regress.. you watch YouTube clips and judge based on that,? highlights reel

Pele did everything right when it matters, for club and country. If you want to rubbish Pele's record based on the time he played, have you tried to look at goals of other great players who played in his time? Why is Pele's record a zillion mile ahead of Garrincha and co?

1958 world cup final. He scored two goals in the final, including a wonder. He scored 6 goals in just 4 matches he featured as he came from injury inside the world cup.

1970 world cup he scored 2 goals and provided 1 assist in the final against Italy.
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1070 world cup
Brazil played Italy in the final at the Azteca Stadium in Mexico City.[93] Pelé scored the opening goal with a header over Italian defender Tarcisio Burgnich. He then made assists on Brazil's third goal, scored by Jairzinho, and the fourth finished by Carlos Alberto which is often considered the greatest team goal of all time, involving all but two of the team's outfield players, and ended with Pelé making a blind pass which rolled perfectly into the path of Carlos Alberto, who came running from behind, and struck the ball without breaking stride to score.[94][95] Brazil won the match 4–1, keeping the Jules Rimet Trophy indefinitely, and Pelé received the Golden Ball as player of the tournament.[65][96] Burgnich, who marked Pelé during the final, was quoted saying "I told myself before the game, he's made of skin and bones just like everyone else — but I was wrong".[97]

In 1962 world cup, Pele past 5 defenders to score a goal. He later got injured. I beg give up.


They said Pele played in those days when football was still evolving, how come Garrincha only scored 85 goals in 236 appearances in same league Pele averaged more than a goal per match? Ukwu!!! Pele should be praised for playing the kind of football he played at the time. His football was at least 50 years ahead of his mates. Should Messi perform half like Pele did in the world cup, his worshipers will crown him king of football, boxing, athletics and wrestling.

Brazil won the 1958 World Cup.
Pelé arrived in Sweden sidelined by a knee injury but on his return from the treatment room, his colleagues closed ranks and insisted upon his selection.[21][60] His first match was against the USSR in the third match of the first round of the 1958 FIFA World Cup, where he gave the assist to Vavá's second goal.[61] He was the youngest player of that tournament, and at the time the youngest ever to play in the World Cup.[62] He scored his first World Cup goal against Wales in quarter-finals, the only goal of the match, to help Brazil advance to semifinals, while becoming the youngest ever World Cup goalscorer at 17 years and 239 days.[58] Against France in the semifinal, Brazil were leading 2–1 at halftime, and then Pelé scored a hat-trick, becoming the youngest in World Cup history to do so.[63]

On 29 June 1958 Pelé became the youngest player to play in a World Cup final match at 17 years and 249 days. He scored two goals in that final as Brazil beat Sweden 5–2 in the capital of Stockholm. His first goal where he flicked the ball over a defender before volleying into the corner of the net, was selected as one of the best goals in the history of the World Cup.[64] Following Pelé's second goal, Swedish player Sigvard Parling would later comment; "When Pelé scored the fifth goal in that Final, I have to be honest and say I felt like applauding".[65] When the match ended, Pelé passed out on the field, and had to be attended by the medical staff.[29] He then recovered, and was compelled by the victory to weep as he was being congratulated by his teammates. He finished the tournament with six goals in four matches played, tied for second place, behind record-breaker Just Fontaine, and was named best young player of the tournament.[66]


- So Pele only played 4 matches in his forst world cup just coming from injury inside the world cup, and he could be said to be probably the tournament best player at 17?

Messi is right... Copa America win as
important as World Cup
www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3710/copa-america/2015/07/04/13284142/messi-is-right-copa-america-win-as-important-as-world-cup

After reading how Messi lamented his pains about last world cup and how he is unfulfilled, I was expecting him to propel Argentina to finish chile in the first half.

Yet they compare him to Pelé who did everything right on crucial days.

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