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MrTA:
I'll take Ramos. Just because he was outpaced by one of the fastest players in the world doesnt mean he's lost it.
Its not ideal that he's 29 already though but he'll bring a wealth of experience and leadership.

Sky are claiming united have bid £28.6m for Ramos.

MrTA:
Again, what is this based on?

chrisley024:
haha! No be the same you that said Fergie was lenient with his training on our players.

afrodoc2:
I hope you are right.
What are those elampiric posts about?

elampiro:
How do you guys see William Carvalnho? The guy is like a snail but he is a pass master. He is able to wringle himself out of difficulty to create so much space for his game. He makes it look simple but I couldn't see speed. Can he cope or adapt his game to suit the EPL? His game looks too neat womewhat. Against USA he had 43/44 correct passes. 8/8 long balls in just one half- the 2nd highest. He seems to be a master of long balls. He makes the highest number of accurate long balls in matches he plays. His tackles are usually the highest too, impressive for a DM.

elampiro:
Where exactly did Vidal play at this word cup? I couldn't assess him as a DM. Carvalho is a straight DM, he is comfortable on a one man deep lying midfielder. He will be good for a team like Barca.

parrotibaba:
in ur quest to ridicule me u goofed up big time ,if u hv read d article n comprehended it ,you would h seen d part he talked about youth integration in d team n my post conspicuously stated at d beginning dat he made good points but d rest r crap ,n den I proceeded to tackle d points he made about youths not getting enough playing time or not being allowed to mature into d team hence my welbeck point ,dis is an article dat has different points n I'm not going to school u on d art to picking out points from articles n tackling it if d writer is wrong or less informed ... someone on dis thread was able to understand d point dat I was making but u continued to show ur ignorance n daftness by trying to mk me look Iike I hv no idea what I posted as u pushed frantically to start a baseless argument ...next time try to think n comprehend b4 publicly disgracing ur self

coogar:
these were your lies that period when you were still covered in fecal matter known as facebook - guess what? it was afrodoc & dademola that disgraced your surname concerning the lies you tell on a daily basis.



do you remember this humiliation handed to you or not?



i love NL.
previous posts on lies are so easy to fish out. elampawa, there's no single doubt in my mind that your first bath water as a child was filled with crystals of lies.

parrotibaba:
elampiro is more daft. dan. a 2 year old ...I began my post with "the guy. made some good points but d rest are balderdash" any 10 year old would immediately comprehend dat I am responding to d other points he made regarding youth integration. n not about d failures of potentials when bought at a high price common english u can't grasp ,no wonder u argue like a tyke ,when u comprehend d article first n den my post ,den I go believe say ur case don d come down

coogar:
you didn't even know what opta does - all of a sudden, you want to talk about stats.


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coogar:
correcting who?
you only quote what you read from your sources - dailymail & dailymirror. that was your source of football info. anything else apart from those, you were super-clueless.

coogar:
you are a fool!
we are not talking about march 2014, we are talking about march 2013 when SAF was still here and you were still idïotic about how football works. all your comments can be retrieved so stop lying.
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coogar:
why are you such a numbskull? how the fück did you survive infancy with this level of stüpI dity? nobody ever said whoscored was the same as opta. all i said was whoscored use opta stats to collate their data on player ratings.

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coogar:
you lack cognitive reasoning.....
oputa was what you called opta. back then, we had to explain to you what shot assist, key pass & open play goals meant. you even thought corner kicks were not setplays.....funny how you are now claiming to know footie when the evidence is in the archives.

coogar:
data source or no data source, you never knew anything about opta. if you weren't a disgraceful ingrate, you should be paying homage to me every season for the knowledge you have acquired from me over the last few years.......but i bear no grudges.

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coogar:
shut up your mouth & stop fabricating stories. goals from penalties are awoof goals & only a stüpid donkey like yourself would claim only hazard wins penalty for chelsea. upon all his penalties(won & scored), he still lagged behind david silva for the 3rd consecutive season as far as creativity is concerned.

coogar:
you know nothing about football.....
all you do is blow hot air here & there. why should we even take you serious? you saw rooney won the FA cup, you saw scholes/keane in 1999 UCL final & you also hargo clipping messi's left foot in nou camp. you are a disgrace to all the honest folks in edo state.

chrisley024:
He is aware of the article's content and talked on the issue of our youth.

Fergie's "no value in the market" and the desire of most ready-made players to move to Spain led to this.

parrotibaba:
.d difference between dis current barca team n dat of last season is d cash de spent on Suarez n rakitic ,according to dis guy's logic de should hv gone with d likes of sergi Roberto n munir n see if instant success would follow ,youth integration is not bad at all ,but u can't expect all youth players to make it to d first team by default ,de hv to prove dem selves first ,only den can de become regulars in d first team ,scholes ,giggs ,Neville ,butt worked hard b4 de got to d first team
..Youth doesn't always translate to success

parrotibaba:
^^^

The guy made some good points but d rest r balderdash ,not every youth product progresses through to d main squad n maintains his place dia ,he may hv forgotten that welbeck was given 2 years to show his worth up front for d team n he failed woefully ,d saido janko dat he is talking about is no good ... d thing with ppl like dis guy is dat de tend to forget a lot ,a certain Ritchie de laet has not made any telling contribution to de various teams he has played since leaving united ,what of Rodrigo possebom ,Federico macheda ? Ezekiel fryers? If d likes of Wilson will stay at d club n learn dia trade maybe one day ,de will become regular starters ,a fact dat LVG made known when he took over from Moyes ,dat he will integrate d youth players into d squad if de impress n he did so but u can't expect d likes of Wilson ,McNair n Blackett to lead our lines if we r to challenge d big guns ,we would be a laughing stock n dat guy would be d first to criticize d mgt for fielding inexperienced players n expecting dem to win trophies ...football den is different from now ,teams want to win trophies n not wait for a decade b4 achieving it ,all cos de r waiting for dia youth players to mature first. He mentioned barca as an example of youth integration ,but he forgot dat d likes of xavi ,iniesta ,Messi didn't just walk into d team n took d first team shirt ,de had already made stars anchoring dia development b4 de got to where de r currently ...d likes of sergi Roberto ,Montoya ,batra ,are currently sitting on d bench of Barcelona n for so long ,a certain thiago alcantara had to leave in order to get more football chances ,so much for youth integration in barca ...d difference between dis current barca team n dat of last season is d cash de spent on Suarez n rakitic ,according to dis guy's logic de should hv gone with d likes of sergi Roberto n munir n see if instant success would follow ,youth integration is not bad at all ,but u can't expect all youth players to make it to d first team by default ,de hv to prove dem selves first ,only den can de become regulars in d first team ,scholes ,giggs ,Neville ,butt worked hard b4 de got to d first team




..Youth doesn't always translate to success

coogar:
you called opta oputa!
don't even come here to lie about that. you never heard of opta until you got on NL. your source of info was facebook or ESPN.

coogar:
that is a lie - you were not monitoring nada. you didn't even know what a key pass was, now you are claiming to be god of stats.

coogar:
you are a pathological liar.
when did i ever say whoscored was opta? i said whoscored use opta stats to compute their data to rate players. why are you twisting the facts when i can dig up your old posts to expose you?
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coogar:
shut up your mouth, you old fool.
the only discrepancy in all football stats is the assist. everything else is consistent. opta stats count only intentional passes that leads to goals as assists.

the other side count other things as assists. it's either one or the other - if my assist stats do not agree with yours, common sense should already tell you that i am using the other standard.

it's no rocket science but seeing that you dropped out of school in form-3(before the 6-3-3-4), it's not surprising you have a problem with logic.

coogar:
you dunno anything....
you came to this forum not even knowing statistics existed in football. how can you know what opta represents when you were calling it oputa about a year ago?

coogar:
this is the rambling of a möron.
only 2 sets of assist compilation exists. if my numbers don't agree with yours then common sense should tell you i am using the UEFA/FIFA standard. i do not need to spoon feed you to know which of the standard i am using. this is the only statistical parameter that has 2 different standards so all what you wrote there is the musing of a drunken pillöck!

coogar:
you should also send this link to elampiro. i have always told him that UEFA/EPL count such stuff as assists even when opta do not recognise rebounds as assists.

coogar:
UEFA counted assist for tevez & messi but opta did not count it for them. i think it won't be long when there would be a universal rule for what constitutes an assist. if a player is brought down in the box that resulted into a scored penalty, EPL counts it as an assist but opta does not.

raumdeuter:
elampiro,

How you see the Nigerian Under 21 team. which of them you think say get prospect for future

coogar:
i dunno why you are surprised.
mr pawa told us fergie hid rooney from gerrard because gerrard always shackles rooney.

tess1:
How are they fitter?

The defensive midfield problem has always been there since 2010/11 season i think and it's still there up till today.

Moyes destroyed everything at Utd. These are some of the player's comments:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2422051/Marouane-Fellaini-admits-struggling-Manchester-United-intensity-training.html#ixzz3cNgKjhTO

Ferdinand

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11096067/Rio-Ferdinand-hits-out-at-David-Moyess-tactics-while-in-charge-of-Manchester-United.html

parrotibaba:
so ,Fletcher ,kagawa ,Dimitar berbatov ,carrick , evra r weak players baa?

olabode89:
Bros stop jumping from pillar to post.... You have been cornered just accept that your "Lazy Fergie players" claim does not hold water.

We all know that Fergie's major weapon was his winning mentality and other attributes such as nurturing of talents, ability to make piss poor players astute professional and winning machines.

Fergie understood the rigor of seasonal football, bar injury he had his team sheets prepared already by the beginning of the season.

I also agree with the issue u raised concerning Fergie's Assistant coaches, the moment Carlos Q left, the team started having issues with recruiting young talented players and also some technicality with the modern game which Fergie was not really sound about meant we struggled against teams handled by master tacticians such as Guardiola, Mou, Bielsa etc. Yes men like d diick head, Mike Phelan contributed nothing to the team unlike Carlos Q, Steve Maclaren....

Elam-pawa although I enjoy ur "battles" with Coogar (dis man no gree battle for rap section again) on this thread, u got this particular claim wrong!

parrotibaba:
dis is a ridiculous question even by ur standard ,u should also ask what happened to Eric jemba jemba , bebe ,obertan ,veron ,kleberson ,Alan smith ,Fabio ,liam miller ,kieran Richardson ,Darren Gibson ,Campbell ,etc

parrotibaba:
na now I know say u start to watch match from 2010 ...were we unlucky when we lost 2-0 at OT against Coventry city in '08? or losing 3-0 against AC milan in '07 or losing at Fulham 3-0 in '09 n 2010? did we dominate Middlesbrough when we drew 2-2 with dem in '08? or villa in 2011? or Liverpool when de spanked us 4-1 in '09?

parrotibaba:
Ryan giggs no play ball till he was 41? is evra not benching asamoh n padoin currently at Juventus? has vidic retired? Fletcher nko? Carrick? O'Shea? Brown? where is Ashley Cole now? sitting on Roma's bench ,Malouda? Essien? Kalou? bosingwa? Calvaho? How many years d moaninho stay at Chelsea during his first stint ,no be four? how many did SAF stay in united during dis various players united career? from 2003-2013 is it not 10 years?

tess1:
For Ando it was injury crisis. He has a long list of injury crisis from his days at Porto. It is only a fit player that can be in form.

For Cleverley, Moyes over-trained him and also affected him with his negative football. We can see that in his performances at Aston Villa this season.

Moyes destroyed a lot of our players with his hard training method and negative playing style that eroded their confidence. At a point Fellaini complained about the intensity of his training. That is a player that he brought from his former club who knew his training methods from Everton. That alone speaks a lot of over-training.