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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:03pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
an opportunist? grin



arsenal wouldn't make top 4 if they had rooney all these years.
Arsenal would have won the league with Rooney's over team play. Not one who wants to score all the goals and block the routes to others.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:01pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
but we cannot see nyabingo - your cocksücker? grin
BigniNya is mostly on his own. I have to invite him before he appears.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:59pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
so why did rooney cry to fergie?
the first time he threw his toy outta the pram, it was because he felt we weren't signing enough quality players.

fergie signed the best player in the league - he scored his first hatrick for us on matchday 3 in a difficult away game at southampton & his goals got us the title. his goals gave us the win @ liverpool, chelsea & city.

had RVP joined city that season, they woulda won the title. he was the difference. rooney was reduced to a bench warmer & i fear ruudie is right by saying maybe putting rooney on the bench again like fergie did is the only way we can ever win the title again.
RVP is just an opportunist. We were positioned to win the 2012/13 title after Scholes had returned to help us from day 1. Our injuries too were far better.

RVP that couldnt win with Fabregas, Song, Nasri, Walcott, Ashanvi, all supporting him. He left and Arsenal resurrected.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:52pm On Apr 14, 2015
I can see chrisley024, the number 2 Rooney perpetual hater and Coogar's number 1 ally. grin

Come on guy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:46pm On Apr 14, 2015
SailorXY:
you have seen that Rooney is not a midfielder, neither was LvG right in his persistence with 3-5-2 formation. end of stories.
the next time you see Rooney's name on this board, you should soji nu & life will still go on as usually bros. your monthly income will not be deducted cool angry cool
Rooney has been a great midfielder under SAF before Herrera and co and so shall it be for ever.

Rooney in midfield we won successive matches with 3-5-2. With 4-4-2, Rooney will destroy teams in the midfield. Like he destroyed Villa, Stoke etc in the past.

I cant imagine how free Rooney will be to annihilate opponents when there are Valencia, Young, Fellaini out there, plus Jones and Smalling giving him a high defence line. mehn......
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:42pm On Apr 14, 2015
Mancini didnt know what he was saying. He was trying to blame the board for his failure when he knew sack was inevitable.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:36pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
we did better yet we won nothing. grin



and yet we were dumped out of UCL at the group stage? we even got caned in europa by bilbao. so much for being well-equipped.



united won the league with 4 games to go in 2012/13 and then started throwing games away as the players couldn't be arsëd anymore. lost to city, chelsea @ OT....drew west brom 5-5. we finished 11 points ahead of our closest rivals.
You need to take some logic lessons.

If Scholes were around or without too many injuries in 2011/12, we wont even play Europa. We would have won the league in March. City fighting spirit would have died in January.

Not to mention SAF goofings in dropping Rooney against Blackburn. He underrated Wigan and Newcastle and dropped Scholes in one or both games.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:33pm On Apr 14, 2015
Let Herrera, Carrick and Mata play in the midfield in 3-5-2 formation and let's see if they wont be slaughtered. Not to mention playing with McNair as one of the three. Or having Januzaj, falling falling Falcao, posssion losing Di Maria in the team too.

When Herrera, Carrick and Mata played against Wayanma, they got devoured for lunch. Ukwu!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:27pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
of course, we need rooney's energy - but we need it more on the bench. grin he's not pulling trees as a striker & he's useless in the hole. carrick & herrera would lock the midfield down till blind goes back.

so you see, rooney isn't an expert in any role in the squad.
Stop quoting me. Your opinion is only good for your fantasy. Rooney is our best striker at the moment. Chikena! Goals, Assists and Chances created are the best. His overall build up play and balance on the ball is best for us.

It's easy to praise Herrera and co when we have won 6/6. The last time we won 7/7 or in the 10 match unbeaten run, Rooney was in our midfield playing in front of three defenders. We had two hyenas losing possessions in the attack as they get bullied off the ball. We didnt have Fellaini, Carrick and Young fit all though that period. YET WE WON 7/7.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:22pm On Apr 14, 2015
Without RVP we did better in 2011/2012. If Scholes had played the whole of 2011/12, we would have won the league by March ending.

With Scholes around in 2012/13, Chicha /& Welbeck would have delivered the goals in front of Rooney. They were better equipped than they were in 2011/12.


* 2011/12 without Van Persie, Man United 89 points/ 89 goals scored/ 33 GA/ GD +56

* 2012/13 with Van Persie, Manchester United 89 pts/ 86 GF/ 43 GA/ 43 +GD

Man City lost form towards the end of 2012/13 season and that made it easy for us. RVP added no value what so ever. We would still have won it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:07pm On Apr 14, 2015
Story story, story!!!!!


Coogar, enjoy you fantasy football of Man United team/squad without Rooney. Everyone else who shares your dreams can keep aligning with you every time. As for me, you can never tortoise me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:03pm On Apr 14, 2015
nyabinghi:
I just dug up his posts to let him see how he talks from the two sides of his mouth, without rooney, united would be doomed. Spot on elamps, my other acct was blocked
Coogar is a case, I swear. I have never seen where one is so persistent in bringing only negative things to run someone down. Nothing this guy has not brought forward to use to negative-mark Rooney for about three years I have been here.

I remember that goal Ilisted above against Fulham. The game was deadlock at 89th minute and Rooney scored a most intelligent goal from a solo effort in a tight run-in of 2012/13. Yet we get told Rooney just blast the ball he doesnt place it.

My guy. Take care. I want to log out for a long time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:57am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
buhahahaha
after providing about 20 different sports sites including FAPL's official site that says rooney played in the hole, you are still talking about checkmate? grin



the touches explain how much little influence rooney has as a striker in big games. the game passed him by at anfield & it passed him by on sunday. we had the bulk of the possession and we outpassed city & yet, rooney recorded his lowest number of touches in his 13-year football career in the PL. cheesy
Rooney has destroyed all big clubs in EPL. He has scored most goals against City. He has destroyed them with bicycle kicks, headers etc.He scored a vital goal for an important first leg away lone goal win at Stamford Bridge in only UCL fixture there.

This season he has scored against Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham. In one of our recent matches, Rooney's goal was wrongly cancelled. I think that was against Spurs when he rounded the keeper. Against Arsenal his was wrongly called offside once and in another occasion, Di MARIA wasted his good see through pass.

Enough said for now.

I have already checkmated twice. Have a good day. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:44am On Apr 14, 2015
What about touches again. Go and check RVP, COSTA and co, they have recorded lower touches even in games they scored. Rooney was well involved that was what matter. Even 2012/13 I am sure you will have many RVP lower number of touches.

Na wao! Coogar sef! Wetin u see for Rooney side?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:40am On Apr 14, 2015
Go and sleep, you have been checkmated. If Rooney had continued playing the number 9 after the QPR game, he would be on 25 goals already.

If we prorate his time in the number even at this run-in Rush back to striking role, Rooney is doing very great. I am not even adding assist.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:28am On Apr 14, 2015
^^^
Rooney was subbed out on 86th minute. Then Rooney scored a goal in 18 minutes on his return as a striker this year. cool

Finito!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:25am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
he played upfront for the first time this year in that game after falcao went off
elampiro:
“I was obviously pleased that the manager played me up front and delighted to get the two goals.
http://www.sportskeeda.com/football/manchester-united-wayne-rooney-defends-under-fire-teammate-angel-di-maria-sunderland-performance
Even using your logic, you are not helping yourself. You claimed he played 22 minutes upfront against Sunderland and he scored. This is even better than scoring 2 goals in 90 minutes.

Let's end this.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:12am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
elampawa, you have been bïtch-slapped on this one. grin
Rooney said he played upfront. The man himself has spoken. Forget all these megedefede stuff you are presenting.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:11am On Apr 14, 2015
Even Rooney himself said he played upfront. Not in midfield.


The 29-year-old said, “No, not at all. Everyone knows I've played midfield for the majority of the season but my record shows that I score goals so I'm not worried about that at all.
“I was obviously pleased that the manager played me up front and delighted to get the two goals. I respect his decision wherever he wants to play me. Hopefully I can kick on from here.”
http://www.sportskeeda.com/football/manchester-united-wayne-rooney-defends-under-fire-teammate-angel-di-maria-sunderland-performance
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
you have been exposed as a liar.
You have been checkmated already!

Di Maria left at half time and he played in 4-4-2 according to daily mail. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:01am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
this is foolish!
opta is a stats company - statistics are facts. reports are opinions. 20 different journalists would watch a match & have 20 different opinions on it. this is why match ratings in different sites would look different cos human perception comes into play. if the reports are sound enough, why do these sports sites need opta? why are they paying opta?



you have been exposed! grin
you cited squawka, dailymail, goal.com and they have all proven you wrong that you dunno your football.

this is another one.....
Starts may be facts but not formation charts- remember the ozil failure of OPTA last season.

Now Coolie-guy quoting megedefegede websites.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:58am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
rooney played as a striker in the game but only after falcao left the pitch. let me show you how squawka saw that part too.

notice, by now....falcao had gone and januzaj had come on as a sub. this was the part daily mail was talking about -
Manchester United
01 de Gea
25 A Valencia Booked
12 Smalling
06 Evans
05 Rojo
21 Herrera
17 Blind
07 Di María (Januzaj - 45' )
10 Rooney (Mata - 86' )
18 Young
09 Falcao (Fellaini - 68' )
Substitutes
08 Mata
11 Januzaj
13 Lindegaard
16 Carrick
31 Fellaini
33 McNair
49 Wilson


End of discussion. Daily mail said it was 4-4-2 when Di Maria was in. Di Maria played first half only, therefore United played 4-4-2 from the blast of the whistle.

Checkmate!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:51am On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:
this is the cry of defeat!
so we should ignore the official stats company hired by the premier league and depend on a news reporter that got their information on radio.

well played, elampawa. grin
Coolieguy Tortoise,
Let me help you. All these football websites are all subscribed to opta and have opta permission to use their starting line up charts to run their website. However, the reports gives the actual match details. If uno con understand, na u know.

Rooney and Falcao paired as striker. Chikena. Many media outlets said it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:40am On Apr 14, 2015
Hahahahahahahaha, see OPTA logo (powered by opta) on Coolieguy's chart. Right upper corner. grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy Ajigbijigbijigbi

This guy no dey understand these charts, their source and their purpose.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:35am On Apr 14, 2015
elampiro:
Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao led the line after Louis van Gaal's claims of not having a reliable striker

On the surface, it looked like the old Manchester United. It was a formation which was as close to 4-4-2 as you can get in the modern game. The wingers, Ashley Young and Angel Di Maria, were playing as wide as they could and there were two recognised strikers, in Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao up front.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2973519/Manchester-United-2-0-Sunderland-Wayne-Rooney-answers-calls-reliable-striker.html



Another daily mailreport, this time it's analysis:

Keep Wayne Rooney up front
Van Gaal recently bemoaned his lack of a 20-goals-a-season striker. He already has one, he has just not played him in the right position for long chunks of the campaign.
It is no surprise that Rooney's return to a striking role has coincided with more goals from the England man who averages more than the 20 Van Gaal craves in a red shirt.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2978945/Manchester-United-winning-ugly-won-t-forever-10-things-Louis-van-Gaal-fix-season.html
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Even ESPN says same thing. cheesy ayagayagayagayo heu ayagayagayagayo


Coolie-guy Tortoise still relying on feeds from opta after giving him several post match reports and analysis.




Ukwu!!!
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:32am On Apr 14, 2015
In that 13 match period of RVP drought in 2012/13, Rooney scored 6 goals playing in the number 10 and in the wing. Just a similar thing Mata and Herrera are doing for us now when Rooney may not score.


EPL
Man Utd 2 - 1 Southampton.......... 2 goals Wayne Rooney.
2 goals 2
EPL
Fulham 0 - 1 Man Utd.................. 1 goal Wayne Rooney
EPL
Man Utd 2 - 0 Everton
UCL
Real Madrid 1 - 1 Man Utd
EPL
QPR 0 - 2 Man Utd
EPL
Man Utd 4 - 0 Norwich ............ 1 goal Wayne Rooney, 2 Assist.
UCL
Man Utd 1 - 2 Real Madrid ..........Played as a 2nd half sub in a 10-man United.
FA
Man Utd 2 - 2 Chelsea................Rooney 1 goal.
EPL
Man Utd 1 - 0 Reading............ Rooney 1 goal
EPL
Man Utd 1 - 2 Man City


He could have made it 7 or 8 goals if he was not unselfish to give Kagawa an assist where he was clear to score himself. Football is a team work. When we should be happy that we are doing well now, some people love starting problems and shortliving our celebrations. Rooney is doing a good team play and handling defenders well. He is not bullied off the ball and his movements distracts the central defenders.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Between January 20th and March 11th, Costa went through these 7 consecutive matches without scoring a goal. Yet Rooney only missed one match without scoring and someone wants to die. Rooney even Assisted sef- against City giant defenders that can pocket a striker.

Liverpool 1 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea 1 - 0 Liverpool
Paris St-G. 1 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea 1 - 1 Burnley
Chelsea 2 - 0 Tottenham
West Ham 0 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea 2 - 2 Paris St-G.


In 2012/13, between January 30th and April 8th, RVP went 13 straight matches with just one goal scored against Everton. He went the last 10 below without scoring. Yet this was RVP at his scoring peak.

Man Utd 2 - 1 Southampton
Fulham 0 - 1 Man Utd
Man Utd 2 - 0 Everton
Real Madrid 1 - 1 Man Utd
Man Utd 2 - 1 Reading
QPR 0 - 2 Man Utd
Man Utd 4 - 0 Norwich
Man Utd 1 - 2 Real Madrid
Man Utd 2 - 2 Chelsea
Man Utd 1 - 0 Reading
Sunderland 0 - 1 Man Utd
Chelsea 1 - 0 Man Utd
Man Utd 1 - 2 Man City















* I ask again, why do some guys here hate Rooney so much? Even Harry Kane they shout about, we saw him and Rooney pair against Italy, Kane didn't look like scoring or doing anything meaningful even if the match was extended for another 500 minutes. Scoring in the closing stages of the season is usually hard for renowned strikers who are targeted for serious marking, particularly when it involves solid defenders from big teams.

* BinghiNya / Nyabinghi , hope you can see why I argue heavily sometimes. A striker has to play a full season in striking position before he can hit 25 goals plus because there will be ups and downs in the strikers work on the field. Period of free scoring and period of drought.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:31am On Apr 14, 2015
Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao led the line after Louis van Gaal's claims of not having a reliable striker

On the surface, it looked like the old Manchester United. It was a formation which was as close to 4-4-2 as you can get in the modern game. The wingers, Ashley Young and Angel Di Maria, were playing as wide as they could and there were two recognised strikers, in Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao up front.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2973519/Manchester-United-2-0-Sunderland-Wayne-Rooney-answers-calls-reliable-striker.html



Another daily mailreport, this time it's analysis:

Keep Wayne Rooney up front
Van Gaal recently bemoaned his lack of a 20-goals-a-season striker. He already has one, he has just not played him in the right position for long chunks of the campaign.
It is no surprise that Rooney's return to a striking role has coincided with more goals from the England man who averages more than the 20 Van Gaal craves in a red shirt.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2978945/Manchester-United-winning-ugly-won-t-forever-10-things-Louis-van-Gaal-fix-season.html
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Even ESPN says same thing. cheesy ayagayagayagayo heu ayagayagayagayo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:12am On Apr 14, 2015
Wayne Rooney: I’m “ready” to play up front for Man United again

By Ibrahim AkkasPosted on March 2, 2015

Wayne Rooney has insisted that he is capable of playing up front and is more than ready to play in that role for Man United, should Louis van Gaal ask him to start in that position again, reports Man United’s official website.

Rooney, 29, reverted to his more favoured role of playing in the striking position against Sunderland at the weekend.

The decision by Van Gaal to play the Man United skipper in the most advanced role was a wise call against Sunderland, as the England international produced two goals to send the Black Cats packing.


Rooney’s goalscoring form has been critiqued and questioned by many, with some arguing that a player of his quality should be scoring more Premier League goals this season.

But the England skipper isn’t too fussed, claiming his goal record shows he scores more often than not.

Rooney said: “Everyone knows I’ve played midfield for the majority of the season but my record shows that I score goals so I’m not worried about that at all

“I was obviously pleased that the manager played me up front and I was delighted to get the two goals but the victory was the main thing today because after last week [when United lost to Swansea] it was important that we bounced back.”

Against Sunderland – Rooney had a 80% shot accuracy
Furthermore, Rooney was also asked whether he’d like to carry on playing as a striker for Man United, the 29-year-old revealed he’s ready to play in the role again.

Rooney said: “Well, that’s down to the manager. I’ve said before that it’s his decision and I respect his decision, wherever he wants to play me.

“I’ve played there throughout my career so obviously I know how to play up front. So I’m ready to play there if and when he wants me to do it.”

So far this season, Rooney has bagged ten Premier League goals in 23 league outings. Furthermore, the England international has also been an creative force too. The 29-year-old has created 36 chances, assisting four times. Only Angel Di Maria (44) has created more than Rooney at Man United this season.

The Red Devils’ next game is a potentially awkward clash against Newcastle United on Wednesday evening.
http://www.squawka.com/news/wayne-rooney-im-ready-to-play-up-front-for-man-united-again/316926

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Coogar relies on charts and graphs source from opta instead of believing what he watched with his kolokolo eyes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coogar:
that's the post-match report....

you also told us daily mail had it as a 2-striker system. this was how daily mail saw it. elampiro, these lies are starting to make you stutter.

your own dailymail & goal.com must belong to planet Mars.
stop being a learner. dailymail gets its feed from opta too, check their charts in match zone.

most of these websites rely on opta but you have to be wise to read their post match reports and players rating as in comments.

anyway we will resume this argument when kane aguero Costa score 27 epl goals.

Kane that didn't know his left from his right against Italy. Yeye pundit Coolieguy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:26pm On Apr 13, 2015
coogar:
prove it.....

why do you feel the need to lie when you have been swallowed by a superior argument? will it kill you if you accept rooney is inferior to kane, aguero & costa?
I have proven it in the past before. Even you said we should never rely on these charts from whoscored and OPTA. We were arguing past line ups.




All I know is that Rooney has 6 goals as a striker, you are making a case for RVP to start against Chelsea. It wont happen Coolie-guy Tortoise.

I know where you are headed.











Good night.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:23pm On Apr 13, 2015
coogar:
prove it.....

why do you feel the need to lie when you have been swallowed by a superior argument? will it kill you if you accept rooney is inferior to kane, aguero & costa?



you told us goal.com had rooney pairing with falcao as a striker - the lie detector machine raised an alarm that you were lying.

this was how goal.com saw it. grin
elampawa, you have been exposed yet again.
Go to goal.com post match report, my friend.

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