European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:53pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
Victornezzar: No one is actually happy that Rashford scored??  Everyone is happy |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:20pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
We didn't have to sell Young before buying Wan Bissaka |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:18pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
We cannot sell Martial because he is getting injured. We should talk more of who is coming not who has to go. We have to learn from past mistakes. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:17pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Rashford has a higher work rate but he isn't as skillful as Martial. A combination of the two is what we need. That is what I implied earlier. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:58pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
patrickmuf: In other words, we are better with Martial in the team. Rashford should improve his link up play with his fellow forwards. If you play Martial and remove Rashford, it same effect as when you play Rashford without Martial. I think Rashford has a slightly hugher advantage. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36am On Dec 04, 2019 |
weedtaker: Heard Martial is injured again, watch how our fans will turn him to R9 pending his return.
Today's game will be interesting sha, I'll like to see the pattern Mr Attacking Football and DNA will deploy against Pack the bus defensive dinosaur. Fans will soon forget Martial was on the pitch when we played poorly in recent games. However, we are always weak without him or Rashford because the attention will now be on one. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:05pm On Dec 03, 2019*. Modified: 6:11pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
MRTA7: They have been trying and failing. Doesn't mean it couldn't be done. That's like saying no one in Europe has been able to sign any good midfielder since 2011. So many teams have managed it but for whatever reason we haven't and that shows why we've been a mess since. But we cannot say the management have not been trying. We have bought some players who performed excellently well else where but couldn't perform here. It could therefore mean the problem is beyond midfield. Fellaini was feared in the league before we signed him. Although he was not Moyes' first option to come here. Herrera was the guy who destroyed our midfield in the Europa and did very well before we signed him. Schnerline was EPL best midfielder when we signed him. Pogba was thought to be among 1-3 world top midfielders when we signed him and had featured in FIFA XI once or twice. Something is wrong that can scare even the management. Ndidi would not even be rated as high as 70% of Schnerderlin. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:39pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
MRTA7: You haven't really made a point. Are you saying there are no good players out there? Not sure you can really bring in what SAF did 8 years ago to this. Unless you're implying there are no good players in the 8 years since he said that? The question is, why have we been unable to sign a world class midfielder since 2011? We only got Pogba at a record price? Do you think the management team of the club have not bee trying? They are just not available as SAF noted. The ones available don't choose Old Trafford as their first destination except you pay so much. You might even bring one and he flops. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:09pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Mourinho:
"Going back to Old Trafford is going back to a place where I was happy, I have a great relationship with the fans."
"I went back as a consultant and I was moved by such a nice reception, this time I come back as a coach with the team that will try to beat Manchester United and that gives a different perspective. . "
"I understand that what they want is the opposite of what I want, I want Tottenham to win, they want United to win, and during the match I expect them to forget me and support their team to get the result they want. "
"Honestly, Manchester United is for me in my book of experiences, my history book, a bit like Mr. Mandela said:" You never lose. You win or you learn. "
"At United, I won and I learned, it's not for me to analyze United, I'm now analyzing United as an opponent." |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:43pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: I was the no1 guy here who was against us buying Pogba back then. There is really no rubbish Pogba has played or trouble he has caused that surprises me. Pogba matter tire me. So who are the porential world class midfielders we can buy? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:27pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: You don’t rate Pogba yet you say since we have Pogba and McTom our midfield is okay? McTominay is a potential world class player. You guys said Pogba is world class. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:26pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: Oga Na you dey confused. The debate was about our weak midfield and how we didn’t strengthen there after offloading 1st team players.
The people you quoted initially even stressed that point. The discussion was about how many players bought, and there was a comparison with such teams like Inter and Roma. It was only one guy who talked about midfield. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
elampiro: I dont think that is the strategy. I think he wants to buy only potential world class players or nothing. Afrodoc and co, I did not mention midfilders, I said world class players. You guys believe midfield is our worst area that is why your minds keep going to midfield. But we have Pogba and McTominay. But sha I don't rate Pogba as much as you guys do. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:02pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: You are the one who said he wants world class midfielder or nothing not me.
Now you are saying it does not have to be world class midfielder.
Choose one abeg, is it world class midfielder or nothing OR is it that it does not have to be a world class midfielder?
Musa is confused at the gate, e be like say dem don change the gate key. You are the one who is confused. Not sure I ever mentioned midfielder. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:25am On Dec 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: So no potential world class midfielder in the whole wide world throughout the last transfer window?  They will tell you to pay €100m But we already have a one world class midfielder. How many teams have two? Must it be midfield? If Pogba lives up, he and McTominay can dominate any midfield |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:24am On Dec 03, 2019 |
MRTA7: That alone shows his incompetence then. If you cannot identify any midfielders to sign in the whole world with all the resources available to him, surely he shouldn't be in the job? Most of us could see the glaring weaknesses in the squad before the start of the season and we're not even certified coaches and exactly what we saw is coming to pass why should that excuse Ole? Point is, he has made the rod for his own back and only really has himself to blame. Woodward and other are also culpable but it was Ole who said he was happy to start the season with this squad so he should shoulder most of the blame. If it were that easy, why have we not bought one since 2011 when we 'diagnosed' that Scholes and Carrick needed replacement? Even SAF said players like Scholes and Giggs don't fall from the tree. That is aswering a question why he had not replaced them. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:06am On Dec 03, 2019 |
odizeey: That tweet was not about the coach. Any coach can perform wonders with a good team.
But the coach came out to say the players were enough. He wants young British players in long staff and short staff. Every coach that came bought their players. Expensive and all but this ote feel say he good die. DWM must sack am. I dont think that is the strategy. I think he wants to buy only potential world class players or nothing. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:56am On Dec 03, 2019 |
ChristineC: Pep took over Man City the season after they finished 2nd, 9 points behind the winners. He got 9 players in his first year of 2016 and didn't win. Let's not overlook the peripheral prep's that were checked in the backroom before his arrival just to support his long term plans. He got 8 players in his second, and so far he's purchased 22 players to date. That's a whole new squad.
Our fans talk like there are no underlines to these on field successes. The sacked managers so far have complained about some administrative problems, especially football related. There's an air of non seriousness or incompetence, but we think doing the same thing all over will work miracles. The simple fact is coaches with a willingness to succeed like Pep Guardiola may not even find the Man United job attractive until some things are put in place. Well said |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:46pm On Dec 02, 2019*. Modified: 9:31pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
izzou: And that is why clubs will keep roaming about in league, winning tea cups
Look at Klopp's beautiful team. Did he achieve it in one season
Look at Pep's team. Did it manifest in one season?
[b]I'm not saying Ole is the best. But the idea of sacking and hiring will only end you up in circles. [/b] Gbam! It is possible if Mourinho was not sacked in Che;sea the first time, he would have bounced back to create a team as good as Barca. Ferguson did not win the league in 4 or 5 straight seasons. At most three straight seasons. I don't see how Chelsea changing coaching has been more advantageous to them compared to if they left Mourinho there as we left SAF here. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:43pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Poch is not the only coach available, is he? You guys are making it look like it's Poch or nothing. Madrid and Chelsea have constantly changed managers yet they keep winning. Football has moved on the days when coaches spend decades in a club now it's either you deliver or be booted out.
And about Mou tidying up Pochettino's mess, it's still early days bro and even if he goes on to win anything, it's not rocket science as others have cleaned Mourinho's mess in the past. I was only trying to make you see one thing. There is no so much difference between coaches. Some are lucky to be at the right place at the right time. If Gaurdiola takes over 3SC today will he still win? If he takes over Newcastle will he win the league? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:57pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
patrickmuf: In other words, we need a new front line and midfield. If we have to keep spending to win Aston Villa and Crystal Palace at Old Trafford, why then do we need a coach? But you guys still didn't like Mourinho. Same with LVG. I tnink Mourinho was only going through temporary crisis, we should have been patient mostly as he has a track record to back his career. Now we you guys want a coach sacked by Tottenham. Hope you will not want hom sacked by this time next season? Remember it was this same Pochettino that you guys wanted as a replacement for Mourinho, now Mourinho is the one tidying up his mess at Spurs. What an irony. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:44pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
McTominay and Lingard in the team make our defence to work less. Same was Herrera. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:42pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
patrickmuf: We conceded 2 vs Palace, 3 vs Sheffield and 2 vs Aston Villa we are getting worse by the day.
How come small teams come at us and force us to start defending, since when? We do not impose ourselves until we are a goal or two down but no, we are fine...When we wake up one day seeing the team in 18th position only then will you understand what's happening. Two things: The defence is not shielded by McTominay. Small teams don't fear our forwars players, eo they are bold to come at us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:25am On Dec 02, 2019 |
Only four teams have conceded less goals than Manchester United.
Manchester City is the 4th team, they conceded 16 while we conceded 17. As a big team, we are suppose to be scoring more.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:02pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
What offside is our defence always hurrying to keep that doesn't work? VAR amways called to judge our offside line.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:59pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
I don tire. We can't keep a clean offside trap |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:46pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
See Martial
Spoilt that great pass from Rashford |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:25pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Martial is lazy, Martial is lazy but how exactly do you get excited playing with these bunch of useless players? Martial has played with Lukaku, Rashford, Lingard and he was still the laziest among the three. At one point Lingard was benching him when we came second in the league. That was not a useless era. There was plenty of motivation in the team. Tashford and Ibra were still the main men when we won the Europa. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:22pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
GloryIsaac: It's very very bad.... McSauce is suddenly our star player. We are underrating him because we know his history and think he is unskillful. But if he were playing for Leicester, Dortmund, Athletic Madrid, we might be desiring him to improve our midfield.
He plays with so.much confidence, everywhere on the pitch. Wins tackle, make forward passes and our only play with sensible long range shots.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:13pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
GloryIsaac: And another one right now....
We actually wasted three chances before Villa scored..
Hallelujah, he finally scored. And we will say we dont create. Anyway he has redeemed himself |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:10pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
Our best player is easily McTominay. His absense is highly felt. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:08pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
chrisley024: This Rashford. Smh He turned a great chance into a throw-in, and Patrickmuf will not see that. Na Maguire suppose create that one? |