European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:19am On Nov 11, 2019 |
wizkitvick: Take a chill pill, even the greatest coach in Fraudiola is getting beaten by Norwich and the likes and even getting molested just in 50mins...OLE is not the cause of trash Ford missing seaters or not knowing when to shoot or pass
Ole has his faults but make una calm down and enjoy city game! Me don tire, everytime sack sack sack. We now have millions of director of football or club football legends. This is how Liverpool were sacking and didnt win the league in three decades. Even Klopp did not win the league in his first seasons. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:36pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
A player that came from a small club has better decision making than Rashford and Martial coached by world class coaches and we blame Ole for that? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:35pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
codedguy1: But attacking football also means the CBs will push up to make the team compact. That can still leave Maguire to be outpaced by any fast attacker.
Methinks we need to be clinical with our chances but that also brings up the aspect of who creates the chances and then who finishes the created chances.
Phew...... The issues in this team no be here . It is a gradual process until the team is able to play in a certain well and learn to breakdown defence. Now we are still weak in many aspects of the game which is down to the players not the coach. Is it not same coach teaching James, that teaches Rashford and Martial? How come we have no accurate headers to score from corner kicks but we concede from corner kicks? Some individual qualities are just lacking. If Smalling were here, we would probably have one ot two goals from corner. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:06pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Lana1:
 As football fans, our blood dey always hot. No time to chill.
OGS is no SAF. His tactics are off and his subs are just absurd. If he keeps playing mostly counter attack against every tom, dick and harry, he wont last long as a football manager and he'll be back in no time coaching the likes of Molde in the depths of Europe. The team has to be built to the level playing core attacking football. The other day we tried to play high in the pitch against Chelsea, and Maguire was out paced for Chelsea equalizer |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:24pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
timay: And it seems Ole is done with Gomez and Chong. He has given those youngsters enough opportunities to asses them. It's only Williams and Greenwood that passed the test, that is why they are still in the team.
Garner is presently undergoing the same test, and I hope he also takes his chances The way Willaim is being introduced into top flight football, that is how it should be. Not forced. It happens natuarally
So all these while people were shouting playing Chong, play Chalk, me no understand
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:21pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Lana1: It's a step by step process.
One thing we can all agree on is that this team is poorly coached. With better management we could be playing so much better I do not agree with the poorly coached theory. It is easier said than done. It is hard to pull up a big team in a mess. Even in the 1980s it was hard for SAF despite his record from Aberdeen.
Last season, I remember how a few guys argued with me telling me to look at how a coach improved Arsenal. At the time it looked like Arsenal could win the league. Now everyone is shouting Leicester. Make una cool down jor
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:10pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
eph12: When did you start watching? The team just came out when we conceded that goal. They were too comfortable before I watched eveything |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:05pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
iamharkinwaley: Omo see thrashford snake bite  He is skillful and with lots of pace but he should be more aware of his team mates. Martial is also guilty |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:02pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Lana1: I swear i don tire.
If we were piling the pressure on Brighton, we for don score at least 2 more with little dangers of conceding.
At this point, i'm inclined to say it is this over reliance on counter attacks that is making us ship goals at the back. Not really. Our early goal made Brighton to come out to play. Before, small teams sit back compact and hit us on the counter or from set plays. We will have to learn to break down defence |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:59pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
sinizia: Trashford, better atone for your miss. Fool. In a bid to atone he rugused to set James on one vs one with the keeper |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:58pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
chrisley024: Rashford was actually lucky to score considering the amount of time he took before taking the shot.
These guys need to improve at burying chances and decisions making else nothing for us. This is the major problem with them except James. James was even well position to receive each from Martial and Rashord for a one vs one with the keeper but they went for the bad choice. But some qualities come with game time and playing together. So there is hope |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:52pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
HewlettPackard: miss of the century. They will soon tell you that City forwards, Vardy, Kane miss similar chances
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:49pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
sinizia: Trashford just keeps wasting James' assists. SMH. James is easily our most sensible player. He knowns when to run, pass, cross, dribble , do one two with his mate
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:45pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
eph12: Playing counter i instead of controlling the game against Brighton with a 2 goal lead? This Ole is just dull From what I watch, we should gave 10 goals already. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:31pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
See our fowards creating chances upon chances for one another. James has created from long rage and short range.
We dont need full backs to do this
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:27pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
patrickmuf: We never knew Sterling to be a goal scoring forward until Pep happened, on the other Mane is scoring with Klopp even Vardy is having the season of his career under a coach that prioritizes attack but no, we should hold Martial accountable under a coach that seems clueless. Has Vardy not done better than this before? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:08pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Eph12, what I demand from our fullbacks is akin to what you saw Pereira and Chilwell doing yesterday. Also, you saw Maddison and Tielemans at every opportunity join the attack thus even with 3 CBs, Vardy still found space because with Barnes in the wings together with an attacking minded LB in Chilwell on one side and Perez supported by Pereira on the other and in the middle, Maddison and Tielemans, the Arsenal defense was stretched and stressed to their limits.
I am using Leicester City to highlight my point once again just so you or others don't say it's Liverpool and Manchester City I am using to compare with Manchester United... We dont yet have those kind of full backs. We have to accept what we have and build the team understanding around their qualities. Bissaka is okay on the right. William is being groomed. We cannot want to play young players because young players work for Chelsea. We cannot desire to play attacking full backs because it works for Liverpool, you cannot want to play a big number 9 because it works for amother team, you cannot want to play a skillful 9 hecause it works Manchester City. Let's be okay with the postions we have the least problems, like the full backs |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:21pm On Nov 07, 2019 |
larride: Wait you think that was a pass? 
That was a loose ball that fell to Greenwood Before that he passed to Martial who was caught offside. I think another one to Mata too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:18pm On Nov 07, 2019 |
patrickmuf: See Elampiro already trying to find reasons to blame the strikers...Go and check how many chances Sterling and Aguero waste per game and compare with ours, same with Liverpool...The only difference is that they never stop creating chances...
If the chances keep coming, the strikers will score and so his confidence rises. Those guys are able to carve out something when a match is deadlock. That is most important. The other day you saw the stats, the attackers create for themselves. But you want McTominay to create. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:29pm On Nov 07, 2019 |
Leyqute: Olu omo Greenwood. Just one chance and he scores a goal. The footballing brain that Rashford can never have. The goal has an element of luck. Greenwood did not pick any spot, he only shot on target and it went in. But nice work before the shot. Rashford is creating chances sha. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:20pm On Nov 07, 2019 |
Leyqute: Yup. After a fine cross from AWB. He’s wasting all the chances. Fooliish boy. He is too in a rush to hit the ball, instead of being calculative. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:19pm On Nov 07, 2019 |
Later if we lost 0-1, they will forget the attackers who missed chances and blame midfield and defenders who were put under pressure from forward players inability to do their part.
If you are known for poor finishing, nobody fears you. The small teams will begin to fancy their chances. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:45pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
Mhoyorsawreh1: I am learning a lot from the analysis so far, thanks a bunch.
Ejoor, kindly add me on the whatsapp group 07067125125 Is there a Whatsapp group now? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:48pm On Nov 05, 2019*. Modified: 9:22pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
Even in one of the interviews I read last night, Fabregas said Oscar liked to drop dreep. When they start together, Fagregas said he has plenty of freedom to move into attacking zone because Oscar drops deep.
Argument is lost of man hour. I have to face other things. I believe I have made my point.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by elampiro(m): 7:03pm On Nov 05, 2019*. Modified: 7:29pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:01pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
Ibime: This is what happens when you give too much data to a baboon. How do your people stomach you on this thread?
Let me help you. You said Fabregas made so many assists cos he was in the hole.
A case of an over-opinionated eediot typing nonsense without watching matches.
Below are all Fabregas assists in EPL that season. Can you count for me how many assists while nominally marked down as an AM compared to CM?
Of 19 assists detailed there, 14 of them came in the pivot. 2nd half of the season when he started nominally playing AM, his assists dried up (like I told you). Instead of learning from witnesses to the fact, you open your baboon lips to form agidi with confidence. Have you not confirmed now that I was right from the very begining ? I said his CC went up because of set plays and he also used in the AM along with Oscar. But even you a Chelsea fan didnt believe he played in the hole even for one match. Now we have many of them, even the Everton match is not in your screenshot. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:24am On Nov 05, 2019 |
Ibime: Will you shut up.
Oscar started 26 matches in the league that season.
So is it in the other 12 matches that Fabregas made numerous assists playing in the hole.
Those who actually watched Chelsea that season will tell you Fabregas made most of his assists with Oscar on the pitch.
As I have told your coconut head time.without number, when Oscar didn't play, the shape.of the team was more 4-3-3 with Ramires shuttling up to join the attack more often while Fabregas runs the play. You want to read on Google and argue with someone who watched every match. Bloody Google analyst. LOL, You cannot face facts. How do you know that Oscar always played in the hole whenever he started? Anyway, we have seen that Fabregas played in the hole. Chikena. His number of games in the hole and set plays boosted his chances created that season. Good night. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:23am On Nov 05, 2019 |
But perhaps Fabregas wanted more consistency in a role than the Catalans were willing to offer. He's much better playing centrally as a midfielder, either in the hole behind a center forward or as a deep-lying playmaker next to a more defensive-minded player. When he played further up the pitch for Arsenal in his last two seasons with the club, he scored 28 goals and added 30 assists. ..................................
This again confirm my argument that attacking players are suppose to create chances than central midfielders. Fabregas and Xavi chances created stats went up when used in the hole than CM |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:13am On Nov 05, 2019 |
There are now four sepatate instances of Fabregas playing in the hole.
I am done with Ibime. Dem be say this guy know ball, wetin con happen na ?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:11am On Nov 05, 2019 |
Ibime: Google analyst. Anytime Chelsea played without Oscar, Fabregas played as a CM, not in no bloody hole. Fabregas runs the play and Ramires makes the forward runs. And that is only in the very big games. You missed the part there where the writer said "Cesc very often dropped deep to build play." 4-2-3-1 is lazy paper talk. Chelsea played 4-3-3 if Oscar did not play.
Oscar lost his place in the team in January. Cesc made almost all his assists before January playing as a PIVOT DM alongside Matic. A lot of his assists came from long passes over the top for Costa to chase or from set pieces, not cos he was playing in any bloody hole.
Google analyst.
I nearly fell off my chair when you said DeBruyne is not playing midfield because of his high volume of assists. You then confirmed you don't watch matches by claiming Fabregas made his assists cos he was playing in the hole. If DeBruyne is not playing midfield by the way, I wonder where David Silva is playing. David Silva is more often the AM in the trio. DeBruyne is often not even the farthest midfielder. But then again, you only read matches, you don't watch them. All these are pure lies. Chelses played one formation that season. I remember very well. We were all talking about it. Below another match when Chelsea beat United late in the season. That was when Zouma marked Fellani
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:56pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:52pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
Ibime will still argue despite evidence from different sources.
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