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Politics › Re: And They Will Always Blame Buhari - Joseph Odok by elampiro(m): 4:47am On Jan 14, 2018

GavelSlam:
The OP is very much on point.

It's quite unfortunate how we would hang the man for the sins of others.

My greatest grouse with the president is his taciturn nature, his unwillingness to approach the media and speak out when the tension is high.

Perhaps being a soldier he is wary of his own anger and how he might not communicate his wishes effectively.

Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria.

People give their governors and legislators a bye even when it is manifestly clear they should be held to task.

Though he is the president he is not super human and none is.

Rest in peace to the dead.

Tomorrow is another day.

Make it count.

I agree, particularly this case of Fulani herdsmen. In 2010, Fulani herdsmen killed 500 in a single attack. In 2012, 200 killed in two attacks: Fulani attack on a village and reprisal attack against Fulani.

In 2014, it was generally reported that over 1,400 were killed by Fulani.

The question is, where were these people who now blame Buhari. Did they not have human sympathy in 2010. The media was shy in displaying pictures of the dead people , the online outcry was not in existence. Because a Fulani man in now the President, people are now politicizing it to mean Buhari is supporting them. The truth is that the killings were far more before Buhari. Although the govt should do more to help protect the innocent.
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Massacre: Fulani herdsmen kill 500 in Plateau

Monday, March 08, 2010
No fewer than 500 persons have been brutally murdered and many wounded in three villages in Jos South and Barakin Ladi local government areas of Plateau State by persons suspected to be Fulani herdsmen.

According to an eye-witness account, the men who arrived at Dogo Nahawa and Shen in Jos South local government area at about 3am massacred the villagers including women and children in their sleep in what was believed was a reprisal attack on villagers who were not part of the Jos crisis of January 17 this year. A similar attack took place in Fan, Barakin Ladi local government area.

http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/blog/massacre-fulani-herdsmen-kill-500-in-plateau/

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Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 3:56am On Jan 14, 2018

engineerboat:
$40 billion you say and at what Debt profile

You claim to be increasing exeternal reserve while in the real sense tou keep borrowing.

Then servicing debt at what espence

The External Reserve increase far outstrip the External debt under Buhari. But External debt increase under Jonathan by $7b while External reserve deceased by $16 billion.

You no know book.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 3:53am On Jan 14, 2018

deji68:
The Reserve fell to as low as 25 bill from 30 billion GEJ left under Buhari , before rising again ...did Buhari steal the difference ?...

As long as it rose.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 1:30pm On Jan 13, 2018

engineerboat:
And buhari had to deplete it to $22b

When i say you need truth eye glass, you think say na joke

The reserve is $40 billion today.

What is depletion there?

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 1:29pm On Jan 13, 2018

engineerboat:
Go and get truth eye glass it will help you.

What bring about reduction in external reserve.

Jonathan closed his tenure with $49 per barrel

As at this week crude oil price stood at $70 per barrel.

You see that you are only hiding from yhe truth

Jonathan tenure saw oil averaged $105

Buhari's average cannot be more than $40

In Buhari's tenure oil fell to $27 which was said to be below production cost

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 12:33pm On Jan 13, 2018

engineerboat:
Because you refuse to see the truth even with your both eye's opened.

You need truth eyes glass.

What truth? Jonathan depleted our External Reserve to $29b. Buhari has built it to $40bn

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:45am On Jan 13, 2018

maestroferddi:
Stop talking like a fool and face reality for once...

Buhari is a disaster as a leader.

It should have nothing to with the assumption that because Igbos supported Jonathan and had Yorubas sidelined, then Yorubas must support and defend the senselessness of this Buhari government.

I believe you are educated:Spare a thought on the way Buhari is leading this country.
Does it inspire hope and confidence?

Search your conscience.

Stop talking like a compound fool.

I am not even Yoruba, I am not Hausa, neither am I Fulani.

Buhari has managed just $60b well compared to Jonathan who earned $454bn. The money Jonathan earned is more than what the rest President earned since 1958. He didn't keep reserve. All the oil producing countries have been drawing from their reserves since oil price collapse, except Nigeria and Venezuela which had corrupt govt officials which didn’t save for the raining days.

Yaradua had sense to save in 2008 for the 2008 global financial recession, and Nigeria didn’t feel it as such. But Jonathan, very clueless.

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Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:45am On Jan 13, 2018

engineerboat:
See where you shot yourself in the leg.

Take a look at this once again.

And tell me the figure you quoted above is a big fat lie

Show us revenue from 2010, not from 2014.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:43am On Jan 13, 2018

engineerboat:
What brings about the depletion from 2015.

Every government experienced rise and fall in foreign reserve.

Now back to me question

Provide your answer.

. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018

3. What is PMS price per litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is the price pure water satchet 2015 vs 2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018.

Every govt of Nigeria since 1999 grew our reserves except Jonathan, the one who earned far more. Calamity Jona!

Oil at $70, Jona devoured our reserves. Oil at $40-$60, Buhari is building our reserve, bailout salaries, etc

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:44pm On Jan 12, 2018

bernf16:
And u believed part of the recovered looted funds will be inserted into budgeting? If u really care to know how impactful this govt is, visit the local market and get the answer!!!

The recovered loot that is cleared by the court will be used to finance 2018 budget.

The markets will surely not be the same with the sharp fall in crude oil price. What do you expect when only $60b has come in so far to the current administration? If it were the time people looted our money, by now some banks would have collapsed and depositors lose their funds.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 11:39am On Jan 12, 2018

On 10 February 2010, the Senate controversially used the "doctrine of necessity" to transfer Presidential Powers to Vice President Goodluck Jonathan, and declared him Acting President, with all the accompanying powers, until Yar'Adua returned to full health.

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Officially Jona was the acting President February 2010. Unofficially, by December 2009

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 11:32am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
) I bet u cant even locate when GEJ tookover on the chart....so once again in may 2010 when he took over as acting president the reserve was 38 billion ...

Show 102550100 entriesSearch:Descriptor Foreign Reserves Position in billions of dollars
2010 January 42075.67
2010 February 41410.1
2010 March 40667.03
2010 April 40322.01
2010 May 38815.79
2010 June 37468.44
2010 July 37155.19
2010 August 36769.65
2010 September 34589.01
2010 October 33597.02

You are allowed to struggle.

Yaradua left Nigeria in November 2009. Jonathan was the overseer.

$42 billion in early 2010 is closer to the govt report of $45b

Both reports agreed that Jonathan left $29b in May 2015

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:55am On Jan 12, 2018

The historical reserve chart confirmed everything I posted about our external reserve from Obj to date. It was highest under Yaradua

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:46am On Jan 12, 2018

NgeneUkwenu

Come and see how these people have checkmated themselves here. They gave me link and said it is world bank website. When I open the link and inputed Nigeria reserve from when Jonathan took over till May 2015, it corroborated my own report and exposed deji68 and engineerboat as pathological liars. They have been parading fake figures on nairaland.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:35am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68,

You at your economic website. It confirms my report that Jonathan inherited External reserve of $45 billion and left $29 billion in May 2015.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:21am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
You have the worldbank link about ECA...here is the link for the forieg reserv
https://tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/foreign-exchange-reserves
U too can ask google type...nigerian foreign reserve 2009 to 2017....u will get the same result....if have different result with link and proveu can get on my mention if not....bye

Before anything, how is 'The Economic' online paper a world bank website?

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:18am On Jan 12, 2018

Under Jonathan, Nigeria earned N51trillion from crude oil

14 AUG 2016
The Nigerian state, during the five-year Presidency of Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, earned a total of N51 trillion from petroleum resources. The money is part of the N96.212trillion the country earned in 58years of crude oil sales.

Of this princely sum, which accounts for about 80 per cent of the country’s revenue, only N12.258 trillion (just about 14% of total) has been paid to the oil producing areas as derivation.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/jonathan-nigeria-earned-n51trillion-crude-oil/amp/

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:13am On Jan 12, 2018

fuckbmc:
why did buhari failed as military administrator in the 80s but still fail now? what has buhar achieved with the fine collected from MTN all in the name of unregistered sim fine?

Buhari is going well with just $60b received so far. Compared to Jona $454b

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:12am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
And where is the link ....

The one I gave you last night.
Where is your own link?

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:05am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
Cant u read?'...provide a charz from.cbn or any institution to back yout claim....

I have given my sources as Opec, CBN and govt website.

Can you at least provide source to your wayo charts?

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:03am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
Lol...the central bank chart i gave u is the official figure not this your propanganda piece..

Liar

Give us link to your CBN report.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:02am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
We are talking about foreign reserve u are talking about foreign debt.....even that PMB is the worst...i can provide chart toprove it....

I have given you foreign reserve, the foreign debt is from same govt annual report website. Buhari didn’t inpute those figures, but Iweala as minister of Finance then.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:56am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
Lol...the central bank chart i gave u is the official figure not this your propanganda piece..

Provide the source of this chat.

Even Iweala admitted to the figures in my posts

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:53am On Jan 12, 2018

EXTERNAL DEBT REPORT

1. PRESIDENT OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (1999-2007)

EXTERNAL DEBT:
Inherited: $30 billion
Cleared : $18 billion
Paid: $ 12 billion Dollars
Left: $3,348.22bn-2007

2. UMARU MUSA YAR ADUA (2007 - 2009)

EXTERNAL DEBT:
Inherited: $3,348.22 billion
Left: $3.94 billion Dollars

3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN (2009-2015)

EXTERNAL DEBT
Inherited: $3.94 billion Dollars
Left:$10.3 billion Dollars

4. PRESIDENT MUHAMMADU BUHARI
Inherited: $10.3 billion Dollars
Currently: $15.0 billion Dollars

Source: Govt annual report

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:52am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
Abio just to decieve the gullible...they know naija dont care about facts..they like hearing wonderful stories about billions true or false

You are the one gullible here.

Are you too lazy to go to CBN or government annual report website to fetch data? Do you know there are independent monitoring websites giving the reports as well?

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:50am On Jan 12, 2018

engineerboat:
Elampiro and BMC Co-travellers are only good at dishing out figures and claims.

That is there trademarks

I gave you govt website to pick genuine figures and stats. You still want to believe fake figures. These figures have been in govt website before Bahuri, so no lies at all.

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:48am On Jan 12, 2018

deji68:
Well, he has disputed it many times, ...he grew the ECA he met to about 9 billion ... accordng to worldank

http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/934931468291633000/pdf/776840WP0Niger0Box0342041B00PUBLIC0.pdf

Well, i have disputed all your claims with data... foreign reserve,. ECA, or even your oil revenue claim was wrong too because that is the gross earning .NNPC and oil companies share the 60/40 ...that means NNPC get from the 425 billion only 254 billon.NNPC keep some part of 254 bil as running cost and rest are shared among the federating units...

You are unable to dispute even one. You brought an alleged 2012 figure.

I gave you govt website where you see the reserve of each govt.
RESERVES REPORT

1. PRESIDENT OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (1999-2007)

FOREIGN RESERVE
Inherited: $3.7 billion (1999)
Left: $45.0 billion (2007)

2. UMARU MUSA YAR ADUA (2007 - 2009)

EXTERNAL RESERVE
Inherited: $45.0 billion
Grew To: $63 billion in September, 2008*
Left: $47. 7 billion (As at Dec 31st 2009 when Jonathan took over as "Overseer" )

3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN (2009-2015)

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $47.7 billion
Left: $29 billion

4. PRESIDENT MUHAMMADU BUHARI

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $29
Currently: $40 billion

Source, govt annual report website.

The above exclude excess crude account which Jonathan inherited 22 billion and left only less than $2b

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:42am On Jan 12, 2018

fuckbmc:
how much from telecom companies?

Are you aware that Bubaris administration still enjoys licencing fee collected from telecom operator up till today or you don't know that its not one time fee?
What about betting companies that pays buhari administration whereas there's nothing like that during Obasanjo adminstration.

You are yet to tell me why Buhari failed as military administrator and still fails as civilian president, history is there bro. Or shall we blame PDP for Buhari failure during his military administration?

MTN alone paid $285m (for one of four GSM licenses in Nigeria) in January 2001

Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:52pm On Jan 11, 2018

engineerboat:
The fact that it take you this long to respond shows you have no answer to the said questions and just hiding from the obvious

So all you do all your life is sit on nairaland? You must be very idle.

Do YOU KNOW IF i WAS DRIVING HOME?

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Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:45pm On Jan 11, 2018

engineerboat:
How will it make sense to you.

CBN data did not make sense to you, but a news paper will make sense to you.

Kare.

That is not CBN data.

If you want any data go to CBN website or the Federal govt monthly/quarterly/yearly report here.

http://www.dmo.gov.ng/publications/reports/dmo-annual-report-statement-of-accounts

Or go to independent performance report websites.

If you want any report for any period of time in history you will get. Stop posting data you don't even understand. You went to school, fetch them yourself and look at them critically. Jona finished Nigeria.

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Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:42pm On Jan 11, 2018

engineerboat:
Since you want to divert the attention from the Post.

Am refreshing your mind back to the post.

@elampiro

1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018

3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018

That summarize what is the OP

Now answer the question

You think I am an idle man to be repeating my reply?

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Politics › Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 7:19pm On Jan 11, 2018

engineerboat:
@elampiro

1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018

3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018

It would have been worse with PDP because with oil at $76/barrel, Iweala told us to brace up for hardship. The naira clashed from 160+ to 250+, and prices were going up.

When oil fell below $70, Iweala said the FG was borrowing to pay salaries.

The govt that refused to save for the raining days.

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